Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 I took this bio-engineering introductory class, and this question came to my mind .. If the world is an illusion why a male birth need X (female) and Y(male) chromosomes while a female only needs X and X, which I understood that the male illusion needs a female to sustain its illusion. but for a female..she has pure female constituents (only X). How vedas characterise male and female.If the world is an illusion why female and male are different...atleast the way their mind works(proved by 'science').who is really dependednt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 If the world is an illusion why female and male are different... --- because the spiritual world is supremely various.. and so this variety, in a corrupted way, is brought also in the material world.. an element of variety is sex gender the concept of male and female has his origin in the supreme, divine, male and female svarupas.. radha and krsna so if male and female exists within god (he and his internal potency), the same with his creatures... the difference is that in god everything is sat (eternity), cit (consciousness), ananda (bliss)... in conditioned humans all is birth, death, disease, exploitation and so on.. also the sex diffference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 I agree with you what you have said. but what I want to know why the 'male' swaroopa (X,Y)needs female swaroopa (X,X) to come into 'existence' in this world ? What I understood is that the male require the female 'swaroopa' for 'existence' but not the vice versa. can you or anyone tell me position of our scriptures on 'sex difference' thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 In the home of Ramananda Raya, stayed Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. The Lord was well received by the host because both were friends.What they discussed on that day have left the world an imprint of who really is Radharani, after the guest, Visvambhara or Nimai Pandit, revealed to the host, Ramananda Raya, his real identity as Lord Chaitanya. Lord Chaitanya is really RadhaKrsna himself. And he who knows this discovery by Ramananda Guru Maharaj go home, Back to Godhead( Goloka Vrndavan)in due time.MGM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 but what I want to know why the 'male' swaroopa (X,Y)needs female swaroopa (X,X) to come into 'existence' in this world ? •••because it represent in a perverted way the procedure of creation done by the lord in origin with him fertilizing the material nature with his glance, god makes for his pleasure this lilas where he "needs" to use a female energy to express his role as energetic. Like when he saves devotees from the material world giving the love for Him through the spiritual master who's a representateive of srimati radharani What I understood is that the male require the female 'swaroopa' for 'existence' but not the vice versa. •••i do not think so.... where you have found this? can you or anyone tell me position of our scriptures on 'sex difference' ••••what do you need specifically? basically the sex difference is there because there's sex difference also in the spiritual world, also in the absolute tattva, radha krsna... laksmi vishnu.... parvati shiva.... sita ram and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savraj Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 the world is an illusion? please explain this to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Illusion: along with original question 'Feamale and MAle' An example that reminds me of two clay pots look similar but not the same once broken to clay cant distinguish. Now male and a Female both made of the same substance but the process so different outcome so different we seperate them.(although I am not able to answer why the illusion is biased?) ANYONE?? My friend says krishna not real, but I think He is real. we both have the same thinking power(consciousness). I did not realize just when I was born. But it was my thinking (consciousness) or knowledge afterall that made me realized so. Suppose my friend also realize it a week from now but why that long? So this consciousness cant be illusion as it made him realized that krishna is real.So what was illusion before ? this world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 my dear devotees, you musn`t confuse yourselves with the abc and xyzs of the english alphabets. the x chrmosomes which symbolize the female and the y for the male chromosomes are just products of modern scientist`s obscure imagination.in fact, if you were to encode these alphabets in your pc`s these would come out as binaries,0 and 1. So where`s the x and y? (he he). in other words, these so called modern scientific theories musn`t distract you in your quest to learn more about the science of Krsna consciousness taught to us by our guru, a.c.bhaktivedanta swami prabhupad, through his books, srimad bhagavatam and bhagavad gita as it is, teachings of lord chaitanya, etc. please don`t challenge me on the x and y female and male issues because i have studied this so-called hypothesis for 29 years and all i learned from it is still y.(he he)by the way,i am a medical technologist(under board) and a licensed government physician for 17 years. in other words, i could teach you the art of medicine but i am sorry for i have gone home, Back to My Guru. and teaching you the science of Krsna consciousness, i believe is my specialty.MGM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 << If the world is an illusion >> The world is not an illusion but temporary where real happiness cannot be found if one just goes after satisfying the senses only. when brahma, the first created being was instructed by god to create, he tried various ways to crete. then finally he cratred male-female, an automation in creation. is in not ingenious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 <The world is not an illusion but temporary> the world is not temporary, its cyclic..the soul lives temporary in this world .embodied in the body.and the world can be said as an illusion as it looks diferently by different states of senses. <where real happiness cannot be found if one just goes after satisfying the senses only.> happiness is always a property of senses <when brahma, the first created being was instructed by god to create, he tried various ways to crete. then finally he cratred male-female, an automation in creation. is in not ingenious?> why dont not something like bacteria that devides in two...or more simply What ingenious behind male and female you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 <<<The world is not an illusion but temporary>>>;; the world is not temporary, its cyclic..the soul lives temporary in this world .embodied in the body.and the world can be said as an illusion as it looks diferently by different states of senses. <<<<<where real happiness cannot be found if one just goes after satisfying the senses only.>>>;; happiness is always a property of senses <<<<then finally he cratred male-female, an automation in creation. is in not ingenious?>>>; why dont not something like bacteria that devides in two...or more simply What ingenious behind male and female you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 my dear devotees, in the begining was the word" OM " and the word "OM" materialized and dwelt amongst us.(bible) the "OM" is Krsna. Omkara Pranava is the mantra that brought the world to life. Always remember Omkara Pranava which says: Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya sarvam iti mahatma sudarlabha. " I offer my respectful obeisances unto Lord Vasudeva Krsna who is the cause of all causes." Vasudeva is everything and one can`t be manifested without Vasuedva. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya sarvam iti mahatma sudarlabha. That`s the first and the last instruction given to us by the 12 Mahajanas: Siva, Narada, Kumara, Kapila,Prahlada,Bhisma,Vyasadeva,Sukadeva,Yamaraja,etc. no need therefore my devotees to speculate. just do it and inundate the world with Krsna consciousness. its an order we have to follow unconditionally if we want to go back home, Back to Godhead. anyone wish to follow me? then take up your cross and come with me. hare krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare. MGM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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