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Hi Shrikant,

 

This is true - the only way to really know is experience. And many times we are

drawn to the writings, art, music ect that inspires us to those experiences. But

ultimately it is our own experience of the divine that brings us to these

realizations.

 

I find it beautiful how this divinity comes through for people - whether you see

deities from that religion you believe in many times and sometimes in other ways

- by seeing other symbols of other beliefs...it comes from the same place and is

beautiful in the many ways it comes for people. Sometimes when we see it come as

something other than our preconceived notions it gets even more interesting

opening us up to all others. I for one would never have imagined divinity coming

to me in snakes, spiders, wolves, tigers, eyes, lights and many other

experiences of energy vibrations ... all that was not in my upbringing. Would

have gone much smoother for me if I understood then that it was all divinity -

all I needed to do was keep love in my heart and surrender completely and fully.

Ahhhh....well some of us learn the hard way too! (: haha

 

Thank you for your words and much love to you our dear Shrikant!

Deb (:

 

, shrikant phule

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> Truth is beyond debate,

>  

> It is experienced not debated.

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The words are not mine

They are quoted by some one else.

I am just an interpreter.

After experiencing & quot;THAT & quot;

 

flowerpowers7777 wrote:

>  

> Hi Shrikant,

> This is true - the only way to really know is experience. And many times we

are drawn to the writings, art, music ect that inspires us to those experiences.

But ultimately it is our own experience of the divine that brings us to these

realizations.

> I find it beautiful how this divinity comes through for people - whether you

see deities from that religion you believe in many times and sometimes in other

ways - by seeing other symbols of other beliefs...it comes from the same place

and is beautiful in the many ways it comes for people. Sometimes when we see it

come as something other than our preconceived notions it gets even more

interesting opening us up to all others. I for one would never have imagined

divinity coming to me in snakes, spiders, wolves, tigers, eyes, lights and many

other experiences of energy vibrations ... all that was not in my upbringing.

Would have gone much smoother for me if I understood then that it was all

divinity - all I needed to do was keep love in my heart and surrender completely

and fully.

> Ahhhh....well some of us learn the hard way too! (: haha

> Thank you for your words and much love to you our dear Shrikant!

> Deb (:

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule

<shrikantphule@ ...> wrote:

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>> Truth is beyond debate,

>>  

>> It is experienced not debated.

>>

>

 

 

 

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hi debs and Shrikant,

shrikant what you say about ulitmate truth is what i find to be true.

 

in the realm of the father , there is no debate, there is " nothing " and nothing

to debate, as it is pure experience.

 

When we are pure experience,we feel nothing and are nothing. now it is not

somewhere out there, we can walk in our own skins as this nothingness.

 

Everything out there is inside.

 

we travel through all of our dual aspected selves be it wolves , muslim ali,

peacock angels , snakes, watching the football ,digging the garden, or cooking

the food. This is the realm of the mother,even heaven, when described as a

paradise where all our wants are filled is a beautiful illusion of the mother.

she travels us through her tunnel , some of us see it as a v@gina , some of us

as circling obouous snakes, some see the rose that is pulsating with life , and

that tunnel eventually delivers us at the father. our mother cannot enter the

fathers realm only we can, if we choose, and i think this is the

free will that we are allowed to exercise.

 

 

do we stay , or do we go?

 

love ya purple..

 

 

 

, " flowerpowers7777 "

<flowerpowers7777 wrote:

>

> Hi Shrikant,

>

> This is true - the only way to really know is experience. And many times we

are drawn to the writings, art, music ect that inspires us to those experiences.

But ultimately it is our own experience of the divine that brings us to these

realizations.

>

> I find it beautiful how this divinity comes through for people - whether you

see deities from that religion you believe in many times and sometimes in other

ways - by seeing other symbols of other beliefs...it comes from the same place

and is beautiful in the many ways it comes for people. Sometimes when we see it

come as something other than our preconceived notions it gets even more

interesting opening us up to all others. I for one would never have imagined

divinity coming to me in snakes, spiders, wolves, tigers, eyes, lights and many

other experiences of energy vibrations ... all that was not in my upbringing.

Would have gone much smoother for me if I understood then that it was all

divinity - all I needed to do was keep love in my heart and surrender completely

and fully.

> Ahhhh....well some of us learn the hard way too! (: haha

>

> Thank you for your words and much love to you our dear Shrikant!

> Deb (:

>

> , shrikant phule

<shrikantphule@> wrote:

> >

> > Truth is beyond debate,

> >  

> > It is experienced not debated.

> >

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Beautiful Purple, thank you!

 

You think we don't retain our consciousness then when we merge? Am I

misinterpreting? I think I'm remembering a past post and have been meaning to

ask you again about your experience. See I thought we retained our consciousness

yet also were able to become all or something like that??

 

Well thats what I thought...????? But for the record here - I know nothing!

(:(:(: When we are no thing we still ARE...(meekishly arn't we?) could this

experience have been a lesson in surrender, I mean I don't know I am just

throwing out random thoughts here ... I've become other objects - even the chair

ect - but always even when I was the chair or whatever I still retained my

consciousness...although this is not the void - but even in the void - so I am

just pondering here....

 

All things are possible ... (:

 

I think too of Rama Maharshi - when he became self-realized - I thought I

remember reading that he realized he still WAS - even with death - he still WAS?

I admit I haven't read all the books and writings on much of any one person -

but for some reason that part stuck with me...perhaps I am coloring it through

my ego filters!

 

I suppose it doesn't matter - It is what it is -

 

But just for the record my ego over here is screaming out that it wants to know!

hahaha

 

Much love to you!!!!

 

Debs (:

 

PS - Again I am not getting all these ponderings from this post alone so don't

mind me if I make no sense - I am like a random generator some times...(:

 

, " purple_firefly111 "

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I feel that we retain our consciousness when we merge.Therefore I had written to

Debs

following.

 

This is That,

That is This.

This is not That

That is not This

                           Second part indicates the body,First part is K

power,or Truth................shrikant,

 

--- On Mon, 31/8/09, flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 wrote:

 

 

flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777

Re: TRUTH

 

Monday, 31 August, 2009, 3:46 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beautiful Purple, thank you!

 

You think we don't retain our consciousness then when we merge? Am I

misinterpreting? I think I'm remembering a past post and have been meaning to

ask you again about your experience. See I thought we retained our consciousness

yet also were able to become all or something like that??

 

Well thats what I thought...?? ??? But for the record here - I know nothing!

(:(:(: When we are no thing we still ARE...(meekishly arn't we?) could this

experience have been a lesson in surrender, I mean I don't know I am just

throwing out random thoughts here ... I've become other objects - even the chair

ect - but always even when I was the chair or whatever I still retained my

consciousness. ..although this is not the void - but even in the void - so I am

just pondering here....

 

All things are possible ... (:

 

I think too of Rama Maharshi - when he became self-realized - I thought I

remember reading that he realized he still WAS - even with death - he still WAS?

I admit I haven't read all the books and writings on much of any one person -

but for some reason that part stuck with me...perhaps I am coloring it through

my ego filters!

 

I suppose it doesn't matter - It is what it is -

 

But just for the record my ego over here is screaming out that it wants to know!

hahaha

 

Much love to you!!!!

 

Debs (:

 

PS - Again I am not getting all these ponderings from this post alone so don't

mind me if I make no sense - I am like a random generator some times...(:

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " purple_firefly111 "

<purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote:

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I believe there are different stages, at times you will merge and feel

nothingness and once you have been able to surrender that deeply you come out

somewhere else still intact.There really would not be much point to life if it

was just to become nothing.Thats the way i see it with my puny human mind! love

elektra x x x

 

--You think we don't retain our consciousness then when we merge?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I went in for a look,

to me this is not the void, the void i the mother,

she is a dark sea, unmanifested energy. In the void i can create or manifest or

be whatever i want. I can move void energy in full conciousness.

 

the " nothingness " or pure consciousness, i move through the tunnel

and im showered in gold light then it mixed with white light, everything falls

away without effort, memories everything, but what is? i still have my

consiousness , it is now only a witness nothing more, but this is my level of

surrender , i feel there is more to surrender before i will merge fully..

 

I can pull this back with me and live it if i choose. from this way of life i

have no desire as im satisfied as im everything.( to write this i have split

myself, )To be nothing is extremely satisfying,there is no need as you are

whatever the relm of the father is..

 

love ya purple

 

 

 

, " flowerpowers7777 "

<flowerpowers7777 wrote:

>

> Beautiful Purple, thank you!

>

> You think we don't retain our consciousness then when we merge? Am I

misinterpreting? I think I'm remembering a past post and have been meaning to

ask you again about your experience. See I thought we retained our consciousness

yet also were able to become all or something like that??

>

> Well thats what I thought...????? But for the record here - I know nothing!

(:(:(: When we are no thing we still ARE...(meekishly arn't we?) could this

experience have been a lesson in surrender, I mean I don't know I am just

throwing out random thoughts here ... I've become other objects - even the chair

ect - but always even when I was the chair or whatever I still retained my

consciousness...although this is not the void - but even in the void - so I am

just pondering here....

>

> All things are possible ... (:

>

> I think too of Rama Maharshi - when he became self-realized - I thought I

remember reading that he realized he still WAS - even with death - he still WAS?

I admit I haven't read all the books and writings on much of any one person -

but for some reason that part stuck with me...perhaps I am coloring it through

my ego filters!

>

> I suppose it doesn't matter - It is what it is -

>

> But just for the record my ego over here is screaming out that it wants to

know! hahaha

>

> Much love to you!!!!

>

> Debs (:

>

> PS - Again I am not getting all these ponderings from this post alone so don't

mind me if I make no sense - I am like a random generator some times...(:

>

> , " purple_firefly111 "

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I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be

the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we

intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

animals, that

came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

dust, the universe!.

 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

<shrikantphulewrote:

 

>

>

> Truth is beyond debate,

>

> It is experienced not debated.

>

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> Click here http://cricket.

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JINN wrote..., but imagine

if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

dust, the universe!.

This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish just

by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

 

all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can happen

now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear aspect of time

is an illusion.

 

it happens in this very breath...

 

purple..

 

 

 

, JiNN <jinnproduction

wrote:

>

> I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be

> the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we

> intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

> animals, that

> came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

> amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

> if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

> amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> dust, the universe!.

>

> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

> <shrikantphulewrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Truth is beyond debate,

> >

> > It is experienced not debated.

> >

> > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more.

> > Click here http://cricket.

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Hi purple!

>>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion.

 

I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment?

 

Mike

 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 <

purple_firefly111 wrote:

 

>

>

> JINN wrote..., but imagine

>

> if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

> amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> dust, the universe!.

> This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish

> just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

>

> all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can

> happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear

> aspect of time is an illusion.

>

> it happens in this very breath...

>

> purple..

>

> --- In

<%40ya\

hoogroups.com>,

> JiNN <jinnproduction wrote:

> >

> > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be

> > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we

> > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

> > animals, that

> > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

> > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

> > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

> the

> > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> > dust, the universe!.

> >

> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

> > <shrikantphulewrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Truth is beyond debate,

> > >

> > > It is experienced not debated.

> > >

> > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more.

> > > Click here http://cricket.

> > >

> > >

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As i relate it, through my own perspective ,

 in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of 

consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group,

then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a  trend seemingly comes

out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is  the point when

the collective consciousnessness of all of the people  agrees , yes , this is

our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space.

 

If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now  to a bell curve of

people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom

really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication.

 

As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone

through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift .

 

 In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars

, famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and

perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective

as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so

too will the collective when the bell curve  is at its peak...

 

When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great

deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good!

 

 

purple..

 

 

--- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction wrote:

 

JiNN <jinnproduction

Re: Re: TRUTH

 

Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi purple!

 

>>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion.

 

 

 

I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment?

 

 

 

Mike

 

 

 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 <

 

purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

>

 

> JINN wrote..., but imagine

 

>

 

> if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

 

> amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

 

> dust, the universe!.

 

> This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish

 

> just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

 

>

 

> all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can

 

> happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear

 

> aspect of time is an illusion.

 

>

 

> it happens in this very breath...

 

>

 

> purple..

 

>

 

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini-Awakenin

g-Systems- 1%40. com>,

 

> JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be

 

> > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we

 

> > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

 

> > animals, that

 

> > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

 

> > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

 

> > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

 

> the

 

> > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

 

> > dust, the universe!.

 

> >

 

> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

 

> > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote:

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Truth is beyond debate,

 

> > >

 

> > > It is experienced not debated.

 

> > >

 

> > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more.

 

> > > Click here http://cricket.

 

> > >

 

> > >

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Dear Purple,

When You are performing Sayama/concentration on any thing or nothing you become

one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal

consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness.You are not aware of that

point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof

this?..........................shrikant

 

--- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111 wrote:

 

 

Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111

Re: Re: TRUTH

 

Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

As i relate it, through my own perspective ,

 in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of 

consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group,

then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a  trend seemingly comes

out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is  the point when

the collective consciousnessness of all of the people  agrees , yes , this is

our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space.

 

If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now  to a bell curve of

people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom

really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication.

 

As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone

through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift .

 

 In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars

, famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and

perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective

as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so

too will the collective when the bell curve  is at its peak...

 

When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great

deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good!

 

purple..

 

--- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com>

Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM

 

 

 

Hi purple!

 

>>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion.

 

I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment?

 

Mike

 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 <

 

purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> JINN wrote..., but imagine

 

>

 

> if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

 

> amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

 

> dust, the universe!.

 

> This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish

 

> just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

 

>

 

> all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can

 

> happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear

 

> aspect of time is an illusion.

 

>

 

> it happens in this very breath...

 

>

 

> purple..

 

>

 

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin

g-Systems- 1%40. com>,

 

> JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be

 

> > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we

 

> > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

 

> > animals, that

 

> > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

 

> > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

 

> > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

 

> the

 

> > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

 

> > dust, the universe!.

 

> >

 

> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

 

> > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote:

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Truth is beyond debate,

 

> > >

 

> > > It is experienced not debated.

 

> > >

 

> > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more.

 

> > > Click here http://cricket.

 

> > >

 

> > >

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Hehe! Deb, we posted at the exact same time.

Love

Linda

 

, " flowerpowers7777 "

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> Thank you all for all the great posts on this...gives me much to ponder -

really appreciate it!

>

> Debs (:

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dear shrikant,

 

When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal sense

of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows

silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and

no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply

allow it to be.

 

Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to

pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the

words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the

internal mind

is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result,

the endless

projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of

reality disappear.

instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that

wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even

vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness.

 

so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of form,

because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a fixed

identity, it becomes a game.

you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear

masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes.

yet none of them are " you " and you know

this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces.

 

purple..

 

, shrikant phule

<shrikantphule wrote:

>

> Dear Purple,

> When You are performing Sayama/concentration on any thing or nothing you

become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal

consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness.You are not aware of that

point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof

this?..........................shrikant

>

> --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111 wrote:

>

>

> Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111

> Re: Re: TRUTH

>

> Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> As i relate it, through my own perspective ,

>  in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of 

consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group,

then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a  trend seemingly comes

out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is  the point when

the collective consciousnessness of all of the people  agrees , yes , this is

our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space.

>

> If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now  to a bell curve of

people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom

really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication.

>

> As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone

through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift .

>

>  In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us ,

wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and

perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective

as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so

too will the collective when the bell curve  is at its peak...

>

> When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great

deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good!

>

> purple..

>

> --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com>

> Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM

>

>  

>

> Hi purple!

>

> >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion.

>

> I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment?

>

> Mike

>

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 <

>

> purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > JINN wrote..., but imagine

>

> >

>

> > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

>

> > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

>

> > dust, the universe!.

>

> > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish

>

> > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

>

> >

>

> > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can

>

> > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear

>

> > aspect of time is an illusion.

>

> >

>

> > it happens in this very breath...

>

> >

>

> > purple..

>

> >

>

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin

g-Systems- 1%40. com>,

>

> > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be

>

> > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we

>

> > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

>

> > > animals, that

>

> > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

>

> > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

>

> > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

>

> > the

>

> > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

>

> > > dust, the universe!.

>

> > >

>

> > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

>

> > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Truth is beyond debate,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > It is experienced not debated.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more.

>

> > > > Click here http://cricket.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

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Dear purple,

Does mind has choice of it's own?

Is there any ultimate TRUTH ? Or it is only a stage,because perceiving Truth

is lifting only one veil.As occult science believes,'veil upon veil shall

lift,but still veil upon veil will be found behind'

What is your opinion?.........................shrikant 

 

 

--- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 wrote:

 

 

purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111

Re: TRUTH

 

Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:40 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear shrikant,

 

When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal sense

of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows

silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and

no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply

allow it to be.

 

Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to

pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the

words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the

internal mind

is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result,

the endless

projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of

reality disappear.

instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that

wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even

vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness.

 

so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of form,

because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a fixed

identity, it becomes a game.

you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear masks

that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes. yet none

of them are " you " and you know

this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces.

 

purple..

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule

<shrikantphule@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Purple,

> When You are performing Sayama/concentratio n on any thing or nothing you

become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal

consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness. You are not aware of

that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?.......

.......... ......... .shrikant

>

> --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...>

> Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> As i relate it, through my own perspective ,

>  in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of 

consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group,

then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a  trend seemingly comes

out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is  the point when

the collective consciousnessness of all of the people  agrees , yes , this is

our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space.

>

> If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now  to a bell curve of

people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom

really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication.

>

> As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone

through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift .

>

>  In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us ,

wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and

perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective

as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so

too will the collective when the bell curve  is at its peak...

>

> When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great

deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good!

>

> purple..

>

> --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com>

> Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM

>

>  

>

> Hi purple!

>

> >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion.

>

> I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment?

>

> Mike

>

> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 <

>

> purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > JINN wrote..., but imagine

>

> >

>

> > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

>

> > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

>

> > dust, the universe!.

>

> > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish

>

> > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

>

> >

>

> > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can

>

> > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear

>

> > aspect of time is an illusion.

>

> >

>

> > it happens in this very breath...

>

> >

>

> > purple..

>

> >

>

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin

g-Systems- 1%40. com>,

>

> > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be

>

> > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we

>

> > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

>

> > > animals, that

>

> > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

>

> > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

>

> > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

>

> > the

>

> > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

>

> > > dust, the universe!.

>

> > >

>

> > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

>

> > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Truth is beyond debate,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > It is experienced not debated.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more.

>

> > > > Click here http://cricket.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

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Dear purple,

Bondage and liberation are created by maya(illusion) and they do not exsist in

the soul.Supreme truth which,like space is

indivisible,actionless,calm,blameles,stainless and without a second?

There is neither restraint,nor birth nor bondage nor an adept(to aid the

disciple),nor one desirous of liberation,nor one liberated--this is the highest

truth.(vivek choodamani)

Once an intelligent person asked me if bondage and liberation are stages,what is

use of getting liberation?I felt what he states is right , I informed an old

person about this.He answered me ; some creatures live in gutters some in decent

homes.Tell that fellow like being in bondage/liberation is like living in gutter

or decent home.......shrikant

 

--- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 wrote:

 

 

purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111

Re: TRUTH

 

Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 3:06 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear shrikant

at my point of surrender, i find the statement you wrote to be absolutely true.

we lift a veil and we feel its freedom , and we live there until we ourselves

abandon it as we discover it's illusion.

 

veil upon veil with no end. but that also is the beauty of it.

 

purple..

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule

<shrikantphule@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear purple,

> Does mind has choice of it's own?

> Is there any ultimate TRUTH ? Or it is only a stage,because perceiving Truth

is lifting only one veil.As occult science believes,'veil upon veil shall

lift,but still veil upon veil will be found behind'

> What is your opinion?.... ......... ......... ...shrikant 

>

>

> --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111@ ...>

> [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:40 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> dear shrikant,

>

> When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal

sense of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows

silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and

no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply

allow it to be.

>

> Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to

pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the

words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the

internal mind

> is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result,

the endless

> projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of

reality disappear.

> instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that

wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even

vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness.

>

> so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of

form, because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a

fixed identity, it becomes a game.

> you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear

masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes.

yet none of them are " you " and you know

> this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces.

>

> purple..

>

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule

<shrikantphule@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Purple,

> > When You are performing Sayama/concentratio n on any thing or nothing you

become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal

consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness. You are not aware of

that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?.......

.......... ......... .shrikant

> >

> > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...>

> > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > As i relate it, through my own perspective ,

> >  in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of 

consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group,

then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a  trend seemingly comes

out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is  the point when

the collective consciousnessness of all of the people  agrees , yes , this is

our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space.

> >

> > If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now  to a bell curve

of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom

really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication.

> >

> > As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone

through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift .

> >

> >  In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us ,

wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and

perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective

as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so

too will the collective when the bell curve  is at its peak...

> >

> > When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great

deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good!

> >

> > purple..

> >

> > --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com>

> > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> > Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM

> >

> >  

> >

> > Hi purple!

> >

> > >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion.

> >

> > I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment?

> >

> > Mike

> >

> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 <

> >

> > purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > JINN wrote..., but imagine

> >

> > >

> >

> > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

> >

> > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> >

> > > dust, the universe!.

> >

> > > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you

wish

> >

> > > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can

> >

> > > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear

> >

> > > aspect of time is an illusion.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > it happens in this very breath...

> >

> > >

> >

> > > purple..

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini-

Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>,

> >

> > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will

be

> >

> > > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example:

we

> >

> > > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

> >

> > > > animals, that

> >

> > > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

> >

> > > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

> >

> > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> >

> > > > dust, the universe!.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

> >

> > > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Truth is beyond debate,

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > It is experienced not debated.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and

more.

> >

> > > > > Click here http://cricket.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

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dear shrikant

at my point of surrender, i find the statement you wrote to be absolutely true.

we lift a veil and we feel its freedom , and we live there until we ourselves

abandon it as we discover it's illusion.

 

veil upon veil with no end. but that also is the beauty of it.

 

if i try to abandon all veils...i come again to the point of nothingness.

 

i am a witness with a burning heart.

 

purple..

 

, shrikant phule

<shrikantphule wrote:

>

>

> Dear purple,

> Does mind has choice of it's own?

> Is there any ultimate TRUTH ? Or it is only a stage,because perceiving Truth

is lifting only one veil.As occult science believes,'veil upon veil shall

lift,but still veil upon veil will be found behind'

> What is your opinion?.........................shrikant 

>

>

> --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 wrote:

>

>

> purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111

> Re: TRUTH

>

> Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:40 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> dear shrikant,

>

> When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal

sense of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows

silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and

no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply

allow it to be.

>

> Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to

pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the

words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the

internal mind

> is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result,

the endless

> projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of

reality disappear.

> instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that

wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even

vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness.

>

> so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of

form, because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a

fixed identity, it becomes a game.

> you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear

masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes.

yet none of them are " you " and you know

> this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces.

>

> purple..

>

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule

<shrikantphule@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Purple,

> > When You are performing Sayama/concentratio n on any thing or nothing you

become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal

consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness. You are not aware of

that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?.......

.......... ......... .shrikant

> >

> > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...>

> > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > As i relate it, through my own perspective ,

> >  in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of 

consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group,

then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a  trend seemingly comes

out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is  the point when

the collective consciousnessness of all of the people  agrees , yes , this is

our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space.

> >

> > If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now  to a bell curve

of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom

really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication.

> >

> > As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone

through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift .

> >

> >  In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us ,

wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and

perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective

as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so

too will the collective when the bell curve  is at its peak...

> >

> > When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great

deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good!

> >

> > purple..

> >

> > --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com>

> > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> > Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM

> >

> >  

> >

> > Hi purple!

> >

> > >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion.

> >

> > I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment?

> >

> > Mike

> >

> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 <

> >

> > purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > JINN wrote..., but imagine

> >

> > >

> >

> > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the

> >

> > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> >

> > > dust, the universe!.

> >

> > > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you

wish

> >

> > > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can

> >

> > > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear

> >

> > > aspect of time is an illusion.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > it happens in this very breath...

> >

> > >

> >

> > > purple..

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini-

Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>,

> >

> > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will

be

> >

> > > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example:

we

> >

> > > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from

> >

> > > > animals, that

> >

> > > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

> >

> > > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine

> >

> > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> >

> > > > dust, the universe!.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

> >

> > > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Truth is beyond debate,

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > It is experienced not debated.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and

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Dear Purple, dear Shrikant,

 

This is so good i am learning a lot from this..actually i am experiencing this

lifting of veils..and its true, after one veil we move on and find another to

lift..just last night i thought i had forgiven everyone i need to forgive next i

had an argument with my mom, then its as if a dam burst and all my resentments &

past hurts surfaced, i realized i havent forgiven my mom yet. after i meditated

and offered my forgiveness and kissed my mom and said im sorry, a lightness and

feelings of love unfolds within me..a veil has lifted once again.

 

blessings & lots of love,

edgar

 

 

 

 

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Tuesday, September 1, 2009 2:36:26 AM

Re: TRUTH

 

 

 

dear shrikant

at my point of surrender, i find the statement you wrote to be absolutely true.

we lift a veil and we feel its freedom , and we live there until we ourselves

abandon it as we discover it's illusion.

 

veil upon veil with no end. but that also is the beauty of it.

 

purple..

 

 

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Could this just be another veil of illusion you have experienced seeing that the

mother as not being able to enter the realm of the father? I have thought of the

mother and father, as one being and not separate. Did you know the gematria

number for " Mother Nature " and the Hebrew name for Father God " YHWH " is the same

number! Is that a coincidence!

 

I love changing letters to their number equivalent. You can come up with some

very fascinating stuff. I did a little experiment with a friend once who liked

playing the lottery. He ask me if I would help him pick the numbers. I would set

and meditate for a number for him and instead of a number I would be given a

vision of an image of something instead. I would take the name of the image and

reduce it to it's one digit number. I would get him three numbers every day and

those number would come up just about every time for that day, but not in order

of what they were given me. :) He would win something just about everyday. I was

a fun thing to do.

 

Linda

 

, " purple_firefly111 "

<purple_firefly111 wrote:

 

 

, and that tunnel eventually delivers us at the father. our mother cannot enter

the fathers realm only we can, if we choose, and i think this is the

> free will that we are allowed to exercise.

>

>

> do we stay , or do we go?

>

> love ya purple..

>

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sorry dear shrikant,

you got my deleted version , i wrote another after it as i thought it was only

half an answer, here is the missing part..

 

....**if i try to abandon all veils...i come again to the point of nothingness.

 

i am a witness with a burning heart.

 

purple..** today's comment below..

 

again shrikant i find your statement to be true, yesterday i was offered a

magical blue dragon , and to join a long line of powerful sorcerers. They told

me that quickly i would have comand of jinn, spirits , seraphim , the list goes

on..

 

but i gleefully refused, i could see it as maya. with this feeling

i have no needs.i feel satisfied and have no more need to search.

I can feel the universe in me, and me in the universe and that's more that

enough :)

 

thankyou shrikant, you helped me understand deeper.

purple

 

 

, shrikant phule

<shrikantphule wrote:

>

>

> Dear purple,

> Bondage and liberation are created by maya(illusion) and they do not exsist in

the soul.Supreme truth which,like space is

indivisible,actionless,calm,blameles,stainless and without a second?

> There is neither restraint,nor birth nor bondage nor an adept(to aid the

disciple),nor one desirous of liberation,nor one liberated--this is the highest

truth.(vivek choodamani)

> Once an intelligent person asked me if bondage and liberation are stages,what

is use of getting liberation?I felt what he states is right , I informed an old

person about this.He answered me ; some creatures live in gutters some in decent

homes.Tell that fellow like being in bondage/liberation is like living in gutter

or decent home.......shrikant

>

> --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 wrote:

>

>

> purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111

> Re: TRUTH

>

> Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 3:06 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> dear shrikant

> at my point of surrender, i find the statement you wrote to be absolutely

true. we lift a veil and we feel its freedom , and we live there until we

ourselves abandon it as we discover it's illusion.

>

> veil upon veil with no end. but that also is the beauty of it.

>

> purple..

>

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule

<shrikantphule@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear purple,

> > Does mind has choice of it's own?

> > Is there any ultimate TRUTH ? Or it is only a stage,because perceiving Truth

is lifting only one veil.As occult science believes,'veil upon veil shall

lift,but still veil upon veil will be found behind'

> > What is your opinion?.... ......... ......... ...shrikant 

> >

> >

> > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111@ ...>

> > [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:40 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > dear shrikant,

> >

> > When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal

sense of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows

silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and

no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply

allow it to be.

> >

> > Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose

to pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the

words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the

internal mind

> > is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a

result, the endless

> > projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of

reality disappear.

> > instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that

wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even

vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness.

> >

> > so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of

form, because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a

fixed identity, it becomes a game.

> > you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear

masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes.

yet none of them are " you " and you know

> > this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new

faces.

> >

> > purple..

> >

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule

<shrikantphule@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Purple,

> > > When You are performing Sayama/concentratio n on any thing or nothing you

become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal

consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness. You are not aware of

that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?.......

.......... ......... .shrikant

> > >

> > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...>

> > > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> > > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > As i relate it, through my own perspective ,

> > >  in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of 

consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group,

then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a  trend seemingly comes

out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is  the point when

the collective consciousnessness of all of the people  agrees , yes , this is

our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space.

> > >

> > > If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now  to a bell curve

of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom

really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication.

> > >

> > > As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have

gone through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift .

> > >

> > >  In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us ,

wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and

perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective

as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so

too will the collective when the bell curve  is at its peak...

> > >

> > > When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a

great deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is

good!

> > >

> > > purple..

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com>

> > > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH

> > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

> > > Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Hi purple!

> > >

> > > >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion.

> > >

> > > I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment?

> > >

> > > Mike

> > >

> > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 <

> > >

> > > purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

the

> > >

> > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> > >

> > > > dust, the universe!.

> > >

> > > > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you

wish

> > >

> > > > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can

> > >

> > > > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear

> > >

> > > > aspect of time is an illusion.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > it happens in this very breath...

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > purple..

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini-

Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>,

> > >

> > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will

be

> > >

> > > > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example:

we

> > >

> > > > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came

from

> > >

> > > > > animals, that

> > >

> > > > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from

> > >

> > > > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but

imagine

> > >

> > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals,

> > >

> > > > the

> > >

> > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock

> > >

> > > > > dust, the universe!.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule

> > >

> > > > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote:

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Truth is beyond debate,

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > It is experienced not debated.

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and

more.

> > >

> > > > > > Click here http://cricket.

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

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wow, so cool, i like the imagery of a blue dragon, i would have asked if i could

just go for a quick ride on its back through the universe, and forget the

rest!!! hahahathanks purple for sharing your wisdom with us x elektra x x x

--.

again shrikant i find your statement to be true, yesterday i was offered a

magical blue dragon , and to join a long line of powerful sorcerers. They told

me that quickly i would have comand of jinn, spirits , seraphim , the list goes

on..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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