How have you honored your darkness today?

[Guest guest]

One must have balance between the dark and the light. That doesn't occur by

eliminating one or the other but by honoring them both equally. How have you

honored your darkness today?

 

It can be like walking with the predators.

 

Being in their midst and yet tasting no blood. Balance. For there to be radiance

one must have a background of the darkest night. This is why I enjoy the mass

consciousness goals, this is our time in this world for radiance! Our own

personal light shining against the blackness of horror. But where is our own

personal wholeness? Where are we balanced with in ourselves? To know this one

must embrace the night as fully as one embraces the day. And so I

embrace........

[Guest guest]

I've been given instructions recently to descend within the darkest parts of my

subconscious , to the underworld or hell of my own creation . I must go here in

meditation , sleep projection or obe . I was told that i must go here for

teachings to fully embrace that which i am . I must embrace my darkest nature

and release any fear from the gates that have been opened to the darkest pit of

my soul . I must master these lessons before i can ascend from my hell and into

the light .

[Guest guest]

That is actually what I am going through at the moment. Melding the shadow and

the light so to speak. It seems almost like I am sitting back right now and

allowing the display to show itself. Not judging or analyzing. Accepting both

the predator and the prey in perfect balance. Without the light there would be

no such thing as darkness and vice versa.

 

Besides what is " evil " anyways? It depends on what side of the murder you are

on. They are both right in their own respects. Like the terrorists. In our minds

they are wrong because they are killing innocent people, but in their minds they

are correct because they are doing what is right by serving god. We find

ourselves good because of our liberties, but they feel it is a tool of the

devil.

 

It's all about perspective and understanding. Besides humans need these wars for

population control anyways... just look at the animals. They go at war all of

the time. The chimps even cannibalize and instill terror tactics. It keeps the

strongest specimen breeding. It's all a perfect balance. But is it evil? No...

but it may seem so if you are on the wrong side of the gun.

 

Like you said... fluffy bunnies and floating hearts are easily eaten.

 

But the balance is perfect in it's own respect. No matter how horrific it seems.

 

 

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> One must have balance between the dark and the light. That doesn't occur by

eliminating one or the other but by honoring them both equally. How have you

honored your darkness today?

>

> It can be like walking with the predators.

>

> Being in their midst and yet tasting no blood. Balance. For there to be

radiance one must have a background of the darkest night. This is why I enjoy

the mass consciousness goals, this is our time in this world for radiance! Our

own personal light shining against the blackness of horror. But where is our own

personal wholeness? Where are we balanced with in ourselves? To know this one

must embrace the night as fully as one embraces the day. And so I

embrace........

>

[Guest guest]

I seem to be honouring my dark side without any effort from myself at the

moment.

Last few weeks have seemed to be me reliving all the bad sides to me that I

thought I had got rid of. Ive been argumentative, feelings of real anger and

aggression towards situations and people. A reflection of the person I used to

be when I didn't know any better.

Its been tough to breath through them and get back to being the me I arrived at

a few years ago. Honestly, I'd rather not be honouring this side of me at all,

it wears me down puts my life off track. No idea where its all come from tbh.

 

Andy

[Guest guest]

And you will learn to do these things Chris. You are doing what I also did and

it will be ugly and cruel and very surprising. But once you know what it is that

is occurring it gets boring (did for me anyway). When you begin to make positive

modifications inside the hell realm environment you begin the path back up the

spiral. -

 

 

, " Chris_H " <chghes1

wrote:

>

> I've been given instructions recently to descend within the darkest parts of

my subconscious , to the underworld or hell of my own creation . I must go here

in meditation , sleep projection or obe . I was told that i must go here for

teachings to fully embrace that which i am .

[Guest guest]

This will be my second response to you Andy so my apologies it is is posted

twice being what it is presently.

 

Ypu are clearing these issues. By re-experiencing them you are being given

insight into how you have been as compared to how you are becoming via the

Kundalini. You are honoring the darkness within by having these revisitations

and then choosing the response that is of a balancing nature.

 

We can honor our darkness without having to go there as well And yet for initial

teachings we must often go there. Observe the Shadow and learn from its

teachings. Remember your self forgiveness and remember to modify your behaviors

towards others as they need not be part of this inner process. This teaches us

inner discipline. This teaches us how to choose in ways that are balanced and

appreciative of the darkness we have. Its beauty and its substance are part of

the human balance. The Brillinced by Shadow aspect of duality. - hoping this one

makes it through. - blessings Andy! - chrism

 

 

 

, " andyrpreston "

<andyrpreston wrote:

>

> I seem to be honouring my dark side without any effort from myself at the

moment.

> Last few weeks have seemed to be me reliving all the bad sides to me that I

thought I had got rid of.

[Guest guest]

wow what synchronicity! Just today as I was coming home after taking my dog

swimming, I saw something in me that has always been terrifying since a little

kid...it was evil and wants to kill just because it can and make people suffer

to make itself feel better. I then did the shadow process and reintegrated it

back into my 1st person awareness, and this thing, this evil, that I've been so

afraid of is actually so important to clear discernment, to being like a

mountain, unmovable, in my integrity, not afraid of what others think, no longer

afraid of doing what is right.

I've been embracing and honoring a lot of darkness lately and paradoxically my

lighter moods are getting brighter. Through finally embracing my darkness, the

'evil' in me and the 'bad' emotions I really feel like I'm coming to a place of

authenticity. I feel I'm going deeper, finally gaining depth.

well just wanted to share that, that's how I've been honoring my darkness today

)

 

namaste

craig

 

 

 

 

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> One must have balance between the dark and the light. That doesn't occur by

eliminating one or the other but by honoring them both equally. How have you

honored your darkness today?

>

> It can be like walking with the predators.

>

> Being in their midst and yet tasting no blood. Balance. For there to be

radiance one must have a background of the darkest night. This is why I enjoy

the mass consciousness goals, this is our time in this world for radiance! Our

own personal light shining against the blackness of horror. But where is our own

personal wholeness? Where are we balanced with in ourselves? To know this one

must embrace the night as fully as one embraces the day. And so I

embrace........

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response, makes a lot of sense. And looks like both

replies came through together lol

 

What I have found useful so far is to concentrate on something or something that

I find particularly heart warming and it tends to flush away the other feelings.

I'm very lucky that I am a teacher in a primary school, children tend to bring

about moments to make you smile all the time, they are better at this than

adults and can really expose you to very basic emotions and happiness for

simple reasons!

[Guest guest]

Chrism,

Your question has me thinking of the duality in each of us. For me, there's two

sides, positive/negative, love/hate, light/darkness, etc and we must be reminded

on the capabilities of each to fully embrace the roles of each side. Is it not

the yang that propels conviction in us when our character is challenged? For a

while, I was stuck in the light too long and allowing people to walk all over

me...I would forgive them unconditionally and tell them...people thought I was

in some LaLa Land. I'm not sure if I stepped backwards in the process to

enlightenment, but I know I am more balanced. We are all capable of many bad

things if we choose, but it's the willingness and surrendering to the dark side

that 'may' cause us to act " inappropriately " (whatever that may mean to each of

us).

I agree with most of the posts on this subject and moreover that it is also the

perspective of which we apply this thought and being of who we are,or the " I

AM " , and how we wrap our perspetive to be acceptable to ourselves. Any countries

at war will definately say they are right; same with the beliefs of this

group..we all have a different reality and we choose for ourselves on what

'works' for us. Giving this futher thought, what is the connection between the

darkness and the ego...does the ego provide the justification of any act?

Funny thing, I too have been experiencing episodes of anger, in the last week or

so...must be the collective conscious connectedness of this site. Following

these episodes, I began feeling guilty of my outbursts. I continued through this

cycle of yang to yin, until my output was presented and it became less intense

and began clearing....issues began to feel less important as they once were and

thoughts of forgiveness poured within me.

This reminds me of the teachings in the book series " Conversations with

God " ...to understand love, one must hate...to understand trust, one must

understand betrayal....to understand the light in us, we must understand our

darkness. So as we express the duality in us at the micro level, we begin to

understand the bigger picture and move toward it.

A little length, but the question provoked my thought..lol.

Be Well,

Ernie

 

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> One must have balance between the dark and the light. That doesn't occur by

eliminating one or the other but by honoring them both equally. How have you

honored your darkness today?

[Guest guest]

I agree. I too have been too stuck into the light. And in the darkness. Being

meek and forgiving without warrant. Being angry and hateful and screaming " Why

me?! " I did not know very much.

 

When I found my solar plexus stuck on the right side, it made sense after

watching both creation and destruction of the universe in it's completion, that

one does not have to be one way or the other. To accept it. You can be both. But

at the same time. As is such with balance. Too look at it in one side is either

too dark or too light. Does the predator not need to kill to eat and live? To

kill creates life. If you look at the bigger picture there is no " dark or

light " it just is. The bigger picture is perfect regardless of the little dramas

that ensue. The wars, the charity, the death, the birth. Though it can be

consuming to be in the middle of them, those are just details that detract from

the ultimate of what is.

 

When I first heard the Taoist philosophy of impartiality I thought of it as

weakness as I could discern it. Why just be impartial? That makes no sense. Then

I realized something. Buddha laughs, Jesus turns his cheek. Not because they are

weak, but because they are impartial. Because it is insignificant. They

understand it for what it is. An angry outburst. They separate not in

condescending, but because it really doesn't apply. They are balanced. They are

the bigger picture. Why be consumed with the details?

 

Now I have come to a point that balances me. I place myself in the position of

the ultimate observer. When I have been forced to face rage, fear, love by this

experience it separated me and made me grow. Too really dissect these feelings

and deal with them. I look back and I was completely unscathed. The only thing

hurting me WAS ME. They were simply emotions. That was all. When I feel angry I

know that is my human body reacting to an external situation and I accept it for

what it is. I look at it clinically and deal with the situation in a way that

best creates balance. All of my feelings are simply projections and have nothing

to do with anything regarding the situation. It is merely subjection. From both

sides. The predator is hungry and the prey is available. Simple. Perfect.

 

-Tiffany

 

 

 

 

-

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Monday, June 08, 2009 11:12 AM

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[Guest guest]

Tiffany:

Your words whip right through me, and force me to search within. Of what you

voice is my experience today. It brings me so much relief just to bathe in this

knowing. Thank you.

 

-waitingmoon

 

, " Tiffany "

<angelikdementia wrote:

>

> I agree. I too have been too stuck into the light. And in the darkness. Being

meek and forgiving without warrant. Being angry and hateful and screaming " Why

me?! " I did not know very much.

>

> When I found my solar plexus stuck on the right side, it made sense after

watching both creation and destruction of the universe in it's completion, that

one does not have to be one way or the other. To accept it. You can be both. But

at the same time. As is such with balance. Too look at it in one side is either

too dark or too light. Does the predator not need to kill to eat and live? To

kill creates life. If you look at the bigger picture there is no " dark or

light " it just is. The bigger picture is perfect regardless of the little dramas

that ensue. The wars, the charity, the death, the birth. Though it can be

consuming to be in the middle of them, those are just details that detract from

the ultimate of what is.

>

> When I first heard the Taoist philosophy of impartiality I thought of it as

weakness as I could discern it. Why just be impartial? That makes no sense. Then

I realized something. Buddha laughs, Jesus turns his cheek. Not because they are

weak, but because they are impartial. Because it is insignificant. They

understand it for what it is. An angry outburst. They separate not in

condescending, but because it really doesn't apply. They are balanced. They are

the bigger picture. Why be consumed with the details?

>

> Now I have come to a point that balances me. I place myself in the position of

the ultimate observer. When I have been forced to face rage, fear, love by this

experience it separated me and made me grow. Too really dissect these feelings

and deal with them. I look back and I was completely unscathed. The only thing

hurting me WAS ME. They were simply emotions. That was all. When I feel angry I

know that is my human body reacting to an external situation and I accept it for

what it is. I look at it clinically and deal with the situation in a way that

best creates balance. All of my feelings are simply projections and have nothing

to do with anything regarding the situation. It is merely subjection. From both

sides. The predator is hungry and the prey is available. Simple. Perfect.

>

> -Tiffany

>

>

>

>

> -

> boltonben111

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[Guest guest]

I belive though, that it is not sufficient to know this, to be " free " from the

emotions, from a " below " prospective. knowing this in advance will not save me

from facing the emotion, and the reason it is there. I dont think that would

be a good thing.

 

I feel they do have to do with the situation, they are there to show me

something of myself, they are like a step I can choose to climb to get higher

up, so as to see from a higher prospective.

if something causes a certan reaction in me, there is something in me that has

to do with it. it is then my choice if to be actor or observer of that emotion.

each and every emotion is then like a step that allows me to grow.

 

because there is a risk too in beliving that by knowing that emotions are not

real, then they are of no importance.

 

this is my thought, hard to express though, I am not used to writing.

smiles,

lucia

 

 

<<Too really dissect these feelings and deal with them. I look back and I was

completely unscathed. The only thing hurting me WAS ME. They were simply

emotions. That was all. When I feel angry I know that is my human body reacting

to an external situation and I accept it for what it is. I look at it clinically

and deal with the situation in a way that best creates balance. All of my

feelings are simply projections and have nothing to do with anything regarding

the situation. It is merely subjection. From both sides. The predator is hungry

and the prey is available. Simple. Perfect.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Ernie,

We are inside of duality for a time. But as we mature in the

Kundalini this can begin to change.

 

We can choose to honor the qualities within that are dark and light. With

Kundalini also comes a unity of the two and a joining of the two that makes them

one. The two that are one.

 

From this perspective we are able to surpass the expectations associated with

either one. We go beyond the incarnate response. We make the choice to honor and

select that which we choose to recognize. We are able to transmute any choice

into that which we wish to experience. Darkness can be honored for the space in

which the seed germinates. Lightness can be honored for the life affirming force

of its interaction with the germinated seed.

 

Or we can choose to go into the actions of (evillive) if we desire and or into

the actions of kindness. We can choose density or less density. We(divine)can

choose. Honoring the darkness from the Kundalini context is perhaps the movement

through the densities by recognition and choice of a divine influenced ego based

decision towards balance and movement into that which is outside of density. -

chrism

[Guest guest]

Thank you and Tiffany for you responses and comments. I gave it much

thought after writing what I did, I guess I was looking at the light and

darkness as different polarities. Chrism, yes if I chunk up the perspective,

they are one in the same. Thank you for putting darkness into a more positive

" light " ..lol.

I watched the youtube video (below) about darkness and it really put things into

a different perspetive for me. Darkness is the base of existance...it needs

nothing to exist...where as light comes and goes and requires a source to exist.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B676PfadDsM & feature=related

 

I believe it was in one of Linda's or Ordinary's posts.

 

Be Well,

Ernie

 

 

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> Hello Ernie,

> We are inside of duality for a time. But as we mature in the

Kundalini this can begin to change.

>

> We can choose to honor the qualities within that are dark and light. With

Kundalini also comes a unity of the two and a joining of the two that makes them

one. The two that are one.

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's hard to see darkness as an illusion/nothingness in the " light " of all that.

Hehehehe! Another one of those paradoxes?

 

A Big Thanks to all who have posted about the void/darkness/abyss..it has helped

me tremendously. Even the Christian Mysticism group I belong to, has been

speaking on it this month some.

 

Linda

 

, " boltonben111 "

<erniebeneventi wrote:

>

> Thank you and Tiffany for you responses and comments. I gave it much

thought after writing what I did, I guess I was looking at the light and

darkness as different polarities. Chrism, yes if I chunk up the perspective,

they are one in the same. Thank you for putting darkness into a more positive

" light " ..lol.

> I watched the youtube video (below) about darkness and it really put things

into a different perspetive for me. Darkness is the base of existance...it needs

nothing to exist...where as light comes and goes and requires a source to exist.

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B676PfadDsM & feature=related

>

> I believe it was in one of Linda's or Ordinary's posts.

>

> Be Well,

> Ernie

>

>

>

> , " chrism " <@>

wrote:

> >

> > Hello Ernie,

> > We are inside of duality for a time. But as we mature in the

Kundalini this can begin to change.

> >

> > We can choose to honor the qualities within that are dark and light. With

Kundalini also comes a unity of the two and a joining of the two that makes them

one. The two that are one.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste

 

dear Linda. . .earlier on one of the post typed evillive. . .

evil and live together knew they where mirror but what struck me is that

when the two ll are placed together as showed, reminds me of

Jesus saying, the path that leads to is straight and narrow??? when

these words come together they give their own little sacred teaching

and reveal the passage way through the middle path. . .

 

thanks for the revealing of the straight and narrow path. . .

 

ordinary sparrow

 

 

, " Linda "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> It's hard to see darkness as an illusion/nothingness in the " light " of

all that. Hehehehe! Another one of those paradoxes?

>

> A Big Thanks to all who have posted about the void/darkness/abyss..it

has helped me tremendously. Even the Christian Mysticism group I belong

to, has been speaking on it this month some.

>

> Linda

>

> , " boltonben111 "

erniebeneventi@ wrote:

> >

> > Thank you and Tiffany for you responses and comments. I gave

it much thought after writing what I did, I guess I was looking at the

light and darkness as different polarities. Chrism, yes if I chunk up

the perspective, they are one in the same. Thank you for putting

darkness into a more positive " light " ..lol.

> > I watched the youtube video (below) about darkness and it really put

things into a different perspetive for me. Darkness is the base of

existance...it needs nothing to exist...where as light comes and goes

and requires a source to exist.

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B676PfadDsM & feature=related

> >

> > I believe it was in one of Linda's or Ordinary's posts.

> >

> > Be Well,

> > Ernie

> >

> >

> >

> > , " chrism "

<@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Ernie,

> > > We are inside of duality for a time. But as we mature

in the Kundalini this can begin to change.

> > >

> > > We can choose to honor the qualities within that are dark and

light. With Kundalini also comes a unity of the two and a joining of the

two that makes them one. The two that are one.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your helpful view, and to all others who posted. This is a

discussion I find very interesting..

 

In a (grossly oversimplified) nutshell, I view the path as being one of giving

up the world to find the One, or in other words, first releasing the attachment

or hold that emotional states and physical experiences have and finding identity

in the True Self.

 

Once the One is recognized and sufficiently grounded in, then from being

centered in that One, you return to the many, which in my understanding is then

choosing which expression is appropriate in the moment, and the expression may

be on of destruction or wrath or anger, or one of love and peace and

wellbeing..' kind of a mask thats put on according to the wisdom of the moment

and can be removed with intention and awareness....

 

I sense that until the One is more or less realized, and there is the

fundamental acceptance that 'everything is absolutly perfect just as it is,

then donning the masks is rather difficult...

 

my 2 dumplings on the matter

love and blessings

Bruce

 

-- In , " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> Hello Ernie,

> We are inside of duality for a time. But as we mature in the

Kundalini this can begin to change.

>

> We can choose to honor the qualities within that are dark and light. With

Kundalini also comes a unity of the two and a joining of the two that makes them

one. The two that are one.

>

> From this perspective we are able to surpass the expectations associated with

either one. We go beyond the incarnate response. We make the choice to honor and

select that which we choose to recognize. We are able to transmute any choice

into that which we wish to experience. Darkness can be honored for the space in

which the seed germinates. Lightness can be honored for the life affirming force

of its interaction with the germinated seed.

>

> Or we can choose to go into the actions of (evillive) if we desire and or into

the actions of kindness. We can choose density or less density. We(divine)can

choose. Honoring the darkness from the Kundalini context is perhaps the movement

through the densities by recognition and choice of a divine influenced ego based

decision towards balance and movement into that which is outside of density. -

chrism

>

[Guest guest]

Gosh, I can see that! Thanks be to you both for the revealing!

 

Much love,

Linda

 

, " ordinarysparrow "

<ordinarysparrow wrote:

>

> Namaste

>

> dear Linda. . .earlier on one of the post typed evillive. . .

> evil and live together knew they where mirror but what struck me is that

> when the two ll are placed together as showed, reminds me of

> Jesus saying, the path that leads to is straight and narrow??? when

> these words come together they give their own little sacred teaching

> and reveal the passage way through the middle path. . .

>

> thanks for the revealing of the straight and narrow path. . .

>

> ordinary sparrow

[Guest guest]

In the bible it talks of the " anti Christ " and " Christ " , to me the tale of

judgement day is a symbolic tale of the fight between higher self or " Christ "

and lower self or " anti Christ " , we each hold the beast within. The fight isn't

external its internal.

 

I try to keep the balance by not judging either side within others thus making

the sides within me feel more accepted and at peace with themselves.

In every moment we get to choose whether or not to be a part of the oneness or

to be a part of the fight of duality. Oneness is as it suggests, the ending of

polarity.

Light and Darkness

elektra x x x