Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as possible. The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing it, and show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to raise its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little more. This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes a joy in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if nothing else happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender feels like another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how do we > surrender? > > Much Love to you, Angelina > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Dhyana, Yes, Thank you very much and will try it! It is the ego that wants to be independent and do everything its own way? Love and Hugs, Angelina , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as possible. > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing it, and > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to raise > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little more. > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes a joy > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if nothing else > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender feels like > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how do we > > surrender? > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 I think so. We become so identified with the ego that we think that's all there is...and that if we drop the ego, what is left? And we feel fear. Well, its the ego that feels the fear! What is left? You are left. The you that is innocent and free, that feels and sees. The ego colors everything with interpretations and projections. Without it you are free, and can kiss the moment in gratitude for its beauty and grace. All you have to do is feel yourself in the stillness, without the mind doing its interpretations of things and its labeling of everything. Each time you do this you're awareness of yourself will grow and soon you will be free to be who you truly are...the childlike playful being who lives behind your eyes. imho Love, dhyana , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > Dear Dhyana, > > Yes, Thank you very much and will try it! It is the ego that wants to > be independent and do everything its own way? > > Love and Hugs, Angelina > > , " novalees " > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as possible. > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing it, and > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to raise > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little more. > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes a joy > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if nothing else > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender feels like > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how do we > > > surrender? > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Thank you Dhyana! That is beautiful and it will be good to realize that I am not this body ~ that is very good advice that you give! Love, Angelina , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > I think so. We become so identified with the ego that we think that's > all there is...and that if we drop the ego, what is left? And we feel > fear. Well, its the ego that feels the fear! What is left? You are > left. The you that is innocent and free, that feels and sees. The ego > colors everything with interpretations and projections. Without it you > are free, and can kiss the moment in gratitude for its beauty and > grace. All you have to do is feel yourself in the stillness, without > the mind doing its interpretations of things and its labeling of > everything. Each time you do this you're awareness of yourself will > grow and soon you will be free to be who you truly are...the childlike > playful being who lives behind your eyes. imho Love, dhyana > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > Dear Dhyana, > > > > Yes, Thank you very much and will try it! It is the ego that wants to > > be independent and do everything its own way? > > > > Love and Hugs, Angelina > > > > , " novalees " > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as possible. > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing it, and > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to raise > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little more. > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes a joy > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if nothing else > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender feels like > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how do we > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think it is because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing left when we are not even this body? Love, Angelina > > > > , " novalees " > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as possible. > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing it, and > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to raise > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little more. > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes a joy > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if nothing else > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender feels like > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how do we > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware the ego just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and think we are it. When we create a little space from it through meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think it is > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing > left when we are not even this body? > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > , " novalees " > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as > possible. > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing it, and > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to raise > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little > more. > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes a joy > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if nothing else > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender feels like > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how do we > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Just to add to the last post, you said, " and there will be nothing left when we are not even this body? " This body is our Temple. It is a very important part of our life at this time. The Chakra One article shows how we need our roots deep into the earth to anchor us as we grow. Thinking that we are not this body is a thought, and of the mind, part of the ego. If you experience that you are not this body that is a different story. imho lol! Love, dhyana , " gypsyeyes_101 " gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: Do you think it is because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing left when we are not even this body? Love, Angelina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Yes, we are lucky to have these bodies and they are Temples, but the real us is not our body, from what I hear, but don't have that experience, yet. Love, Angelina , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > Just to add to the last post, you said, " and there will be nothing > left when we are not even this body? " > > This body is our Temple. It is a very important part of our life at > this time. The Chakra One article shows how we need our roots deep > into the earth to anchor us as we grow. Thinking that we are not this > body is a thought, and of the mind, part of the ego. If you experience > that you are not this body that is a different story. imho lol! Love, > dhyana > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > Do you think it is because it thinks that we will disappear and there > will be nothing left when we are not even this body? > > Love, Angelina > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware the ego just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and think we are it. When we create a little space from it through meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on its own and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a good understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a taste of freedom? Is this to leave the body? Love, Angelina , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware the ego > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think it is > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " novalees " > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as > > possible. > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing it, and > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to > raise > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little > > more. > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes > a joy > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if nothing else > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender > feels like > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how do we > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 You ask such good questions, girl! The freedom I feel is being free of all the miseries the ego causes, and there are so many. Being free to be myself at all times in the moment, unencumbered by the ego's history and story that it loves to relive and brood over or wish things to be other than they are. Its all fairly new to me so I'm still exploring. Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, critical friend. lol! Love , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware the ego > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana > > Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on its own > and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a good > understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a taste > of freedom? Is this to leave the body? > > Love, Angelina > > > , " novalees " > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware the ego > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana > > > > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think it is > > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing > > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " novalees " > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as > > > possible. > > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing > it, and > > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to > > raise > > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little > > > more. > > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes > > a joy > > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow > > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if > nothing else > > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender > > feels like > > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how > do we > > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 >Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, critical friend. lol! Thank you and I know the type and have gotten rid of them and we don't need those types around us LOL You are really good at answering my questions and have a lot of wisdom. You say being free to be yourself in the moment, how does one stay in the moment? The freedom that you feel sounds awesome and it would be good to be free of all the miseries the ego causes and can see why it is called the vulgar one. It would be good to be free of insecurities, nagging doubts and all of the other baggage that comes with the ego, but at the same time we need the ego and need to do what you or Shakti did to the ego. I really want to experience what you experienced this morning ~ what do I need to do ~ surrender, but not sure how. Love, Angelina , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > > You ask such good questions, girl! The freedom I feel is being free of > all the miseries the ego causes, and there are so many. Being free to > be myself at all times in the moment, unencumbered by the ego's > history and story that it loves to relive and brood over or wish > things to be other than they are. Its all fairly new to me so I'm > still exploring. Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > critical friend. lol! > > Love > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware the ego > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana > > > > Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on its own > > and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a good > > understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a taste > > of freedom? Is this to leave the body? > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > , " novalees " > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware the ego > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, > dhyana > > > > > > > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think it is > > > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing > > > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " novalees " > > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as > > > > possible. > > > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing > > it, and > > > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to > > > raise > > > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a > little > > > > more. > > > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes > > > a joy > > > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to > allow > > > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if > > nothing else > > > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender > > > feels like > > > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how > > do we > > > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 I had nothing to do with what happened this morning. I was sleeping and it woke me up. So I can't really tell you what needs to be done. I'm just practicing the Safeties and the directions for Shaktipat. Shakti does what She will, and I surrender to her. Love , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > >Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > critical friend. lol! > > Thank you and I know the type and have gotten rid of them and we don't > need those types around us LOL You are really good at answering my > questions and have a lot of wisdom. You say being free to be yourself > in the moment, how does one stay in the moment? The freedom that you > feel sounds awesome and it would be good to be free of all the > miseries the ego causes and can see why it is called the vulgar one. > It would be good to be free of insecurities, nagging doubts and all of > the other baggage that comes with the ego, but at the same time we > need the ego and need to do what you or Shakti did to the ego. I > really want to experience what you experienced this morning ~ what do > I need to do ~ surrender, but not sure how. > > Love, Angelina > > > , " novalees " > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > You ask such good questions, girl! The freedom I feel is being free of > > all the miseries the ego causes, and there are so many. Being free to > > be myself at all times in the moment, unencumbered by the ego's > > history and story that it loves to relive and brood over or wish > > things to be other than they are. Its all fairly new to me so I'm > > still exploring. Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > critical friend. lol! > > > > Love > > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > the ego > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana > > > > > > Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on its own > > > and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a good > > > understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a taste > > > of freedom? Is this to leave the body? > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > , " novalees " > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > the ego > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > with, and > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, > we take > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, > > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think > it is > > > > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing > > > > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " novalees " > > > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing > > > it, and > > > > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it > trying to > > > > raise > > > > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a > > little > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there > comes > > > > a joy > > > > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to > > allow > > > > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if > > > nothing else > > > > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender > > > > feels like > > > > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how > > > do we > > > > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Thank you and that would be an awesome way to wake up and will focus on surrendering. I felt some very powerful energies right before the Scatterfield started that lasted for several days, when I woke up and did not do anything, either, so I can have an idea of what you mean ~ it was a rather humbling experince when realizing how powerful the energies can be and I only had a tatse of it. Love, Angelina , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > I had nothing to do with what happened this morning. I was sleeping > and it woke me up. So I can't really tell you what needs to be done. > I'm just practicing the Safeties and the directions for Shaktipat. > Shakti does what She will, and I surrender to her. Love > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > >Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > critical friend. lol! > > > > Thank you and I know the type and have gotten rid of them and we don't > > need those types around us LOL You are really good at answering my > > questions and have a lot of wisdom. You say being free to be yourself > > in the moment, how does one stay in the moment? The freedom that you > > feel sounds awesome and it would be good to be free of all the > > miseries the ego causes and can see why it is called the vulgar one. > > It would be good to be free of insecurities, nagging doubts and all of > > the other baggage that comes with the ego, but at the same time we > > need the ego and need to do what you or Shakti did to the ego. I > > really want to experience what you experienced this morning ~ what do > > I need to do ~ surrender, but not sure how. > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > , " novalees " > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You ask such good questions, girl! The freedom I feel is being free of > > > all the miseries the ego causes, and there are so many. Being free to > > > be myself at all times in the moment, unencumbered by the ego's > > > history and story that it loves to relive and brood over or wish > > > things to be other than they are. Its all fairly new to me so I'm > > > still exploring. Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > > critical friend. lol! > > > > > > Love > > > > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > > the ego > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > with, and > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, > we take > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, > dhyana > > > > > > > > Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on its own > > > > and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a good > > > > understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a taste > > > > of freedom? Is this to leave the body? > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > , " novalees " > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > > the ego > > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > > with, and > > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, > > we take > > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, > > > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think > > it is > > > > > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be > nothing > > > > > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " novalees " > > > > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. > To me, > > > > > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as > much as > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing > > > > it, and > > > > > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it > > trying to > > > > > raise > > > > > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a > > > little > > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there > > comes > > > > > a joy > > > > > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to > > > allow > > > > > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if > > > > nothing else > > > > > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender > > > > > feels like > > > > > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to > Shakti...how > > > > do we > > > > > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Narrow minded critical friends also need love and help... CV Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > >Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > critical friend. lol! > > Thank you and I know the type and have gotten rid of them and we don't > need those types around us LOL You are really good at answering my > questions and have a lot of wisdom. You say being free to be yourself > in the moment, how does one stay in the moment? The freedom that you > feel sounds awesome and it would be good to be free of all the > miseries the ego causes and can see why it is called the vulgar one. > It would be good to be free of insecurities, nagging doubts and all of > the other baggage that comes with the ego, but at the same time we > need the ego and need to do what you or Shakti did to the ego. I > really want to experience what you experienced this morning ~ what do > I need to do ~ surrender, but not sure how. > > Love, Angelina > > > , " novalees " > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > You ask such good questions, girl! The freedom I feel is being free of > > all the miseries the ego causes, and there are so many. Being free to > > be myself at all times in the moment, unencumbered by the ego's > > history and story that it loves to relive and brood over or wish > > things to be other than they are. Its all fairly new to me so I'm > > still exploring. Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > critical friend. lol! > > > > Love > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > the ego > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana > > > > > > Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on its own > > > and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a good > > > understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a taste > > > of freedom? Is this to leave the body? > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " novalees " > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > the ego > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > with, and > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, > we take > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, > > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think > it is > > > > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing > > > > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " novalees " > > > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing > > > it, and > > > > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it > trying to > > > > raise > > > > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a > > little > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there > comes > > > > a joy > > > > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to > > allow > > > > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if > > > nothing else > > > > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender > > > > feels like > > > > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how > > > do we > > > > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 :-))) , " celticvoice6 " <celticvoice6 wrote: > > Narrow minded critical friends also need love and help... > CV > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > >Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > critical friend. lol! > > > > Thank you and I know the type and have gotten rid of them and we > don't > > need those types around us LOL You are really good at answering my > > questions and have a lot of wisdom. You say being free to be > yourself > > in the moment, how does one stay in the moment? The freedom that > you > > feel sounds awesome and it would be good to be free of all the > > miseries the ego causes and can see why it is called the vulgar > one. > > It would be good to be free of insecurities, nagging doubts and > all of > > the other baggage that comes with the ego, but at the same time we > > need the ego and need to do what you or Shakti did to the ego. I > > really want to experience what you experienced this morning ~ what > do > > I need to do ~ surrender, but not sure how. > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > , " novalees " > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You ask such good questions, girl! The freedom I feel is being > free of > > > all the miseries the ego causes, and there are so many. Being > free to > > > be myself at all times in the moment, unencumbered by the ego's > > > history and story that it loves to relive and brood over or wish > > > things to be other than they are. Its all fairly new to me so I'm > > > still exploring. Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > > critical friend. lol! > > > > > > Love > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > > the ego > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > with, and > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, > it > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, > we take > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho > Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on > its own > > > > and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a > good > > > > understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a > taste > > > > of freedom? Is this to leave the body? > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " novalees " > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more > aware > > the ego > > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > > with, and > > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it > through > > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present > moment, it > > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of > freedom, > > we take > > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho > Love, > > > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you > think > > it is > > > > > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be > nothing > > > > > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " novalees " > > > > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. > To me, > > > > > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as > much as > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its > doing > > > > it, and > > > > > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it > > trying to > > > > > raise > > > > > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my > awareness a > > > little > > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and > there > > comes > > > > > a joy > > > > > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper > freedom to > > > allow > > > > > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if > > > > nothing else > > > > > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. > Surrender > > > > > feels like > > > > > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to > Shakti...how > > > > do we > > > > > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Are you trying to take this out of context? lol! Lov , " celticvoice6 " <celticvoice6 wrote: > > Narrow minded critical friends also need love and help... > CV > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > >Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > critical friend. lol! > > > > Thank you and I know the type and have gotten rid of them and we > don't > > need those types around us LOL You are really good at answering my > > questions and have a lot of wisdom. You say being free to be > yourself > > in the moment, how does one stay in the moment? The freedom that > you > > feel sounds awesome and it would be good to be free of all the > > miseries the ego causes and can see why it is called the vulgar > one. > > It would be good to be free of insecurities, nagging doubts and > all of > > the other baggage that comes with the ego, but at the same time we > > need the ego and need to do what you or Shakti did to the ego. I > > really want to experience what you experienced this morning ~ what > do > > I need to do ~ surrender, but not sure how. > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > , " novalees " > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You ask such good questions, girl! The freedom I feel is being > free of > > > all the miseries the ego causes, and there are so many. Being > free to > > > be myself at all times in the moment, unencumbered by the ego's > > > history and story that it loves to relive and brood over or wish > > > things to be other than they are. Its all fairly new to me so I'm > > > still exploring. Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > > critical friend. lol! > > > > > > Love > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > > the ego > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > with, and > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, > it > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, > we take > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho > Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on > its own > > > > and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a > good > > > > understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a > taste > > > > of freedom? Is this to leave the body? > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " novalees " > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more > aware > > the ego > > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > > with, and > > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it > through > > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present > moment, it > > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of > freedom, > > we take > > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho > Love, > > > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you > think > > it is > > > > > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be > nothing > > > > > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " novalees " > > > > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. > To me, > > > > > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as > much as > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its > doing > > > > it, and > > > > > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it > > trying to > > > > > raise > > > > > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my > awareness a > > > little > > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and > there > > comes > > > > > a joy > > > > > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper > freedom to > > > allow > > > > > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if > > > > nothing else > > > > > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. > Surrender > > > > > feels like > > > > > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to > Shakti...how > > > > do we > > > > > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2008 Oh it was just the analogy, but yes, I see what you mean. sorry. CV , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > Are you trying to take this out of context? lol! Lov > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " celticvoice6 " > <celticvoice6@> wrote: > > > > Narrow minded critical friends also need love and help... > > CV > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > >Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > > critical friend. lol! > > > > > > Thank you and I know the type and have gotten rid of them and we > > don't > > > need those types around us LOL You are really good at answering my > > > questions and have a lot of wisdom. You say being free to be > > yourself > > > in the moment, how does one stay in the moment? The freedom that > > you > > > feel sounds awesome and it would be good to be free of all the > > > miseries the ego causes and can see why it is called the vulgar > > one. > > > It would be good to be free of insecurities, nagging doubts and > > all of > > > the other baggage that comes with the ego, but at the same time we > > > need the ego and need to do what you or Shakti did to the ego. I > > > really want to experience what you experienced this morning ~ what > > do > > > I need to do ~ surrender, but not sure how. > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " novalees " > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You ask such good questions, girl! The freedom I feel is being > > free of > > > > all the miseries the ego causes, and there are so many. Being > > free to > > > > be myself at all times in the moment, unencumbered by the ego's > > > > history and story that it loves to relive and brood over or wish > > > > things to be other than they are. Its all fairly new to me so I'm > > > > still exploring. Its like getting rid of a really narrow minded, > > > > critical friend. lol! > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware > > > the ego > > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > > with, and > > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, > > it > > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, > > we take > > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho > > Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and that is interesting that the ego disappears on > > its own > > > > > and that it is an illusion that we identify with ~ you have a > > good > > > > > understanding of the mysteries. What do you mean by getting a > > taste > > > > > of freedom? Is this to leave the body? > > > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > 1 , " novalees " > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more > > aware > > > the ego > > > > > > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify > > > with, and > > > > > > think we are it. When we create a little space from it > > through > > > > > > meditation or just watching and staying in the present > > moment, it > > > > > > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of > > freedom, > > > we take > > > > > > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho > > Love, > > > > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you > > think > > > it is > > > > > > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be > > nothing > > > > > > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , > > > " novalees " > > > > > > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. > > To me, > > > > > > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as > > much as > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its > > doing > > > > > it, and > > > > > > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it > > > trying to > > > > > > raise > > > > > > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my > > awareness a > > > > little > > > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and > > there > > > comes > > > > > > a joy > > > > > > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper > > freedom to > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if > > > > > nothing else > > > > > > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. > > Surrender > > > > > > feels like > > > > > > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, > > dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , > > > > > > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to > > Shakti...how > > > > > do we > > > > > > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2008 Hey Kids, I think Dhyana, is right, we never totally lose the ego as long as we are alive (when we're not, it may be different). Jung talked about this though in his work on individuation, which is a fancy word for how we become ourselves. As we grow up we work to create a strong ego, one that can withstand all the challenges it will go through in our lives. Somewhere around (usually) early middle age we begin to merge our ego with our unconscious giving us the ability to know ourselves at a much deeper level. We begin to uncover the archetypes that influence us, which up until then have been unconscious. The shadow and anima/animus are common themes that come up in dreams as this is happening. As our ego listens to the unconscious, intuition opens up, and we more and more work out of the Self and not just our ego. As Dhyana said, meditation and being present help the Self to grow. If you're interested, wikipedia has good articles on individuation and the archetypes. Love, Peter , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > I don't think anyone can drop the ego. As we become more aware the ego > just disappears on its own. Its an illusion that we identify with, and > think we are it. When we create a little space from it through > meditation or just watching and staying in the present moment, it > begins to lose its hold on us. Once we get a taste of freedom, we take > back the wheel from it...and hand it over to Shakti! imho Love, dhyana > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > Why do you think it is so hard to drop the ego? Do you think it is > > because it thinks that we will disappear and there will be nothing > > left when we are not even this body? > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " novalees " > > > > <Novalees@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure everyone has their own way of surrendering. To me, > > > > > surrendering consists of keeping my ego out of it as much as > > possible. > > > > > The ego always wants to own everything and think its doing it, and > > > > > show how special it is, and want more. When I see it trying to > raise > > > > > its head I laugh at it, which strengthens my awareness a little > > more. > > > > > This seems to allow Shakti to move unhindered, and there comes > a joy > > > > > in sharing life with Her. I experience a deeper freedom to allow > > > > > whatever is to be, in full contentment...as though if nothing else > > > > > happened I would still feel complete and happy. Surrender > feels like > > > > > another word for freedom. Does that help any? Love, dhyana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and I will focus on surrendering to Shakti...how do we > > > > > > surrender? > > > > > > > > > > > > Much Love to you, Angelina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
