Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Thank you for your post Chrism, it is very interesting! I think the secret ancient teachings have always been with us for thousands and thousands of years, since the time of Moses, but they have been guarded and hidden in codes, analogies, parables and symbols only for those who who are chosen to receive them and ready to receive them as initiates. They are very dangerous in the hands of the common man and can see why they have been shrouded in secrecy as they can be rather shocking as well. >Not to say that ALL methods were trampled and disappeared. The > Alchemists and the Masons and the Templars and some other groups did > much to preserve many of the Ancient Egyptian School teachings and > some other eastern teachings from destruction yet held them in > secret lest a current ruler decide to obliterate the system as an > excuse to hold onto power. Roselyn house in Scotland is a good > example of this. I agree with you and would love to see Rosslyn Chapel. Kind regards...Angelina , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Yeah! It's only new to the present day society. Much of the belief > systems that encompass the " new age " were forbidden to be practiced > and were shrouded in secrecy, Kundalini being one of them. This is > why many people K active and otherwise have a problem with someone > exposing and actively seeking the initial stages of enlightenment > that Kundalini brings because it still isn't " kosher " amongst those > who wish to perpetrate the exalted secrecy that has surrounded the > Kundalini for so many, many centuries. > > The dark ages from about the sixth to the twelfth centuries saw an > expansion of sacred knowledge. In Europe the Catholic Heresies that > culminated in the destruction of the Cathars and the later formation > of the inquisition stifled much spiritual and personal improvement > beliefs and techniques under the guise of it being linked to a > Satanic form of worship. > > So many ways and means of enlightenment were shunned and forgotten > and left to stagnate or completely disappear due to the fears > invoked by the people who wished to con trol the masses by funneling > all the belief systems into fewer and fewer areas of expression. > Over time in the European theater there was mainly a Christian > belief system that one could use to collect many young people in the > act of going to war hither and yon. > > This clamp down on the spiritual systems of self improvement lasted > through the Elizabethan era into the Victorian and the Edwardian > eras as they affect the United States. Yet in other parts of the > globe people were still free to practice and move into areas of > enlightenment that the west was now abandoning. > > Not to say that ALL methods were trampled and disappeared. The > Alchemists and the Masons and the Templars and some other groups did > much to preserve many of the Ancient Egyptian School teachings and > some other eastern teachings from destruction yet held them in > secret lest a current ruler decide to obliterate the system as an > excuse to hold onto power. Roselyn house in Scotland is a good > example of this. > > Wasn't until the early part of the twentieth century with Madam > Blavatsky and Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons and Mathers, Edgar > Cayce and many others including the Golden Dawn Society and the > Priory of Sion that many of these beliefs and techniques made their > way back into the mass consciousness of society. > > And even with that it took more efforts by Shirley McClain and some > of the more contemporary (meaning in the last thirty years) > practitioners of channeling and OOB explorers and authors Like Ruth > Montgomery, Robert Monroe and William Buhlman, and many others > before this took hold of those seeking a more expansive and > expressive and a less rigid structure of belief than a " typical " > Christian church could provide. > > Not saying you can't get there through Christianity the > many " Saints " prove that you can. They gave it different names and > reasons for the process to be given and received and applied it to > Christian themes. Just saying that Christianity doesn't work > for " everyone " and this is evidenced by the many belief systems that > are present in the world today. > > The " New Age " is a release from secrecy and control of sacred > information that can propel a person into states of consciousness, > that for centuries were forbidden to know about let alone practice. > This is where the " new " part of it comes into play. It is Old > knowledge made new by its absence for so long - until now. - my > take - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I personally dont care for Moses. He came down from Mt Sinai with the ten commandments in his hand. He saw the people worshipping the golden calf and told his men to " Kill them " . So what about those commandments he was holding, that say " thou shalt not kill " ? I think he had no inner teaching, merely the patriarchal teachings. The Cathars, gnostics, sufis, Hindus, had the real secret teachings. CV Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > Thank you for your post Chrism, it is very interesting! I think the > secret ancient teachings have always been with us for thousands and > thousands of years, since the time of Moses, but they have been > guarded and hidden in codes, analogies, parables and symbols only for > those who who are chosen to receive them and ready to receive them as > initiates. They are very dangerous in the hands of the common man and > can see why they have been shrouded in secrecy as they can be rather > shocking as well. > > >Not to say that ALL methods were trampled and disappeared. The > > Alchemists and the Masons and the Templars and some other groups did > > much to preserve many of the Ancient Egyptian School teachings and > > some other eastern teachings from destruction yet held them in > > secret lest a current ruler decide to obliterate the system as an > > excuse to hold onto power. Roselyn house in Scotland is a good > > example of this. > > I agree with you and would love to see Rosslyn Chapel. > > Kind regards...Angelina > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > Yeah! It's only new to the present day society. Much of the belief > > systems that encompass the " new age " were forbidden to be practiced > > and were shrouded in secrecy, Kundalini being one of them. This is > > why many people K active and otherwise have a problem with someone > > exposing and actively seeking the initial stages of enlightenment > > that Kundalini brings because it still isn't " kosher " amongst those > > who wish to perpetrate the exalted secrecy that has surrounded the > > Kundalini for so many, many centuries. > > > > The dark ages from about the sixth to the twelfth centuries saw an > > expansion of sacred knowledge. In Europe the Catholic Heresies that > > culminated in the destruction of the Cathars and the later formation > > of the inquisition stifled much spiritual and personal improvement > > beliefs and techniques under the guise of it being linked to a > > Satanic form of worship. > > > > So many ways and means of enlightenment were shunned and forgotten > > and left to stagnate or completely disappear due to the fears > > invoked by the people who wished to con > > trol the masses by funneling > > all the belief systems into fewer and fewer areas of expression. > > Over time in the European theater there was mainly a Christian > > belief system that one could use to collect many young people in the > > act of going to war hither and yon. > > > > This clamp down on the spiritual systems of self improvement lasted > > through the Elizabethan era into the Victorian and the Edwardian > > eras as they affect the United States. Yet in other parts of the > > globe people were still free to practice and move into areas of > > enlightenment that the west was now abandoning. > > > > Not to say that ALL methods were trampled and disappeared. The > > Alchemists and the Masons and the Templars and some other groups did > > much to preserve many of the Ancient Egyptian School teachings and > > some other eastern teachings from destruction yet held them in > > secret lest a current ruler decide to obliterate the system as an > > excuse to hold onto power. Roselyn house in Scotland is a good > > example of this. > > > > Wasn't until the early part of the twentieth century with Madam > > Blavatsky and Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons and Mathers, Edgar > > Cayce and many others including the Golden Dawn Society and the > > Priory of Sion that many of these beliefs and techniques made their > > way back into the mass consciousness of society. > > > > And even with that it took more efforts by Shirley McClain and some > > of the more contemporary (meaning in the last thirty years) > > practitioners of channeling and OOB explorers and authors Like Ruth > > Montgomery, Robert Monroe and William Buhlman, and many others > > before this took hold of those seeking a more expansive and > > expressive and a less rigid structure of belief than a " typical " > > Christian church could provide. > > > > Not saying you can't get there through Christianity the > > many " Saints " prove that you can. They gave it different names and > > reasons for the process to be given and received and applied it to > > Christian themes. Just saying that Christianity doesn't work > > for " everyone " and this is evidenced by the many belief systems that > > are present in the world today. > > > > The " New Age " is a release from secrecy and control of sacred > > information that can propel a person into states of consciousness, > > that for centuries were forbidden to know about let alone practice. > > This is where the " new " part of it comes into play. It is Old > > knowledge made new by its absence for so long - until now. - my > > take - chrism > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 CV, I have read the bible at least 20 times and the bible does not say that Moses came down off the mountain and killed the Israelites for making a golden calf and worshiping it. It just said it angered God to the point he (God) desired to wipe them out, but Moses interceded on their behalf once again (a type of christ). If they had been killed, there would not have become a Hebrew or Jewish nation after all. It would have ended right then and there. Moses didn't kill or have those people killed that day. Moses was the servant of God through whom the Laws of God were revealed. There where no wars faught until after Moses died. Even then, the problems (wars and all) the Israelites faced came from their disobedience to those Laws. IMHO....all death and sickness comes from the disobedience to the Laws of God. They cannot be broken with out consequence no matter what religion or non-religion one follows. Christ coming did not end the law, but fullfilled it. Love covers over a multitude of broken laws (sins, mistakes, karma) whatever word one wishes to call it. That is what the bible says, what Jesus taught. Love & light, Linda , " celticvoice6 " <celticvoice6 wrote: > > I personally dont care for Moses. He came down from Mt Sinai with > the ten commandments in his hand. He saw the people worshipping the > golden calf and told his men to " Kill them " . So what about those > commandments he was holding, that say " thou shalt not kill " ? > I think he had no inner teaching, merely the patriarchal teachings. > The Cathars, gnostics, sufis, Hindus, had the real secret teachings. > CV > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 If we all just followed 3 simple laws we would live in such a better world. 1. Love thy neighbour. 2. Forgive everybody everything. 3. Thou shall not kill. Simple really..... I'm sure thats what God's been trying to say all a long. Love and hugs elektra x x x _________ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with For Good http://uk.promotions./forgood/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Right on Elektra! The Golden Rule rules! Have a wonderful day and Happy early St. Patty's Day!!! Love, Angelina , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > If we all just followed 3 simple laws we would live in > such a better world. > 1. Love thy neighbour. > 2. Forgive everybody everything. > 3. Thou shall not kill. > > Simple really..... I'm sure thats what God's been > trying to say all a long. > > Love and hugs > elektra x x x > > > _________ > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with For Good > > http://uk.promotions./forgood/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hi Linda, >CV, I have read the bible at least 20 times and the bible does not say > that Moses came down off the mountain and killed the Israelites for > making a golden calf and worshiping it. I agree with you and it seems that some people in this forum like to show their ignorance and we have a prime example of the vulgar one. Love, Angelina , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > CV, I have read the bible at least 20 times and the bible does not say > that Moses came down off the mountain and killed the Israelites for > making a golden calf and worshiping it. It just said it angered God to > the point he (God) desired to wipe them out, but Moses interceded on > their behalf once again (a type of christ). If they had been killed, > there would not have become a Hebrew or Jewish nation after all. It > would have ended right then and there. Moses didn't kill or have those > people killed that day. Moses was the servant of God through whom the > Laws of God were revealed. There where no wars faught until after Moses > died. Even then, the problems (wars and all) the Israelites faced came > from their disobedience to those Laws. IMHO....all death and sickness > comes from the disobedience to the Laws of God. They cannot be broken > with out consequence no matter what religion or non-religion one > follows. Christ coming did not end the law, but fullfilled it. Love > covers over a multitude of broken laws (sins, mistakes, karma) whatever > word one wishes to call it. That is what the bible says, what Jesus > taught. > > Love & light, > Linda > > > , " celticvoice6 " > <celticvoice6@> wrote: > > > > I personally dont care for Moses. He came down from Mt Sinai with > > the ten commandments in his hand. He saw the people worshipping the > > golden calf and told his men to " Kill them " . So what about those > > commandments he was holding, that say " thou shalt not kill " ? > > I think he had no inner teaching, merely the patriarchal teachings. > > The Cathars, gnostics, sufis, Hindus, had the real secret teachings. > > CV > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Thanks Dhyana, I did not state what I said to cut anyone down. I am very ignorant in many subjscts myself, especially when it comes to info on the Cathars, sufis, and Hindus. Besides, that I am Roz's K buddy. I would not want to hurt her in any way what-so-ever nor anyone else for that matter. I just knew what she stated was an untruth as far as the bible is concerned. She may have read that from some other source and just took it to be a truth. Much love to you Roz and I hope you were not offended by my sharing what I knew the bible said about Moses. Love, Linda , " novalees " <Novalees wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Angelina, there was just one Golden rule and to love you nieghbor as yourself is only one half of it. The first half is to love God with all your heart and then love your neighbor as your self. The Golden rules is a subtotally of all the Law, but Jesus himself expanded upon the golden rule many times throughout his ministry while on earth. Most of Matthew chapters 5, 6, and 7 are direct word of Jesus teachings and expanding on the golden rule. If everyone followed the golden rule, there would be no need for the forgive everyone everything nor the " Thou shall not Kill " rule. Those two are included in the golden rule. Just my take. Love & light, Linda , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > Right on Elektra! The Golden Rule rules! > > Have a wonderful day and Happy early St. Patty's Day!!! > > Love, Angelina > > , Elektra Fire > <elektra.fire@> wrote: > > > > If we all just followed 3 simple laws we would live in > > such a better world. > > 1. Love thy neighbour. > > 2. Forgive everybody everything. > > 3. Thou shall not kill. > > > > Simple really..... I'm sure thats what God's been > > trying to say all a long. > > > > Love and hugs > > elektra x x x > > > > > > _________ > > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with For Good > > > > http://uk.promotions./forgood/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Dear Linda, >The first half is to love God with all your heart and then love your neighbor as your self. The Golden rules is a subtotally of all the Law, but Jesus himself expanded upon the golden rule many times throughout his ministry while on earth. Thank you for your reply! Perhaps we love our neighbor as ourselves, because we are all ONE ~ you seem to have a good undertanding of the bible. I will have to read Matthew chapters 5,6 and 7 and also have the complete bible on DVD and will have to watch that as well. Love, Angelina , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Angelina, there was just one Golden rule and to love you nieghbor as > yourself is only one half of it. The first half is to love God with > all your heart and then love your neighbor as your self. The Golden > rules is a subtotally of all the Law, but Jesus himself expanded upon > the golden rule many times throughout his ministry while on earth. > Most of Matthew chapters 5, 6, and 7 are direct word of Jesus > teachings and expanding on the golden rule. > > If everyone followed the golden rule, there would be no need for the > forgive everyone everything nor the " Thou shall not Kill " rule. Those > two are included in the golden rule. Just my take. > > Love & light, > Linda > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > Right on Elektra! The Golden Rule rules! > > > > Have a wonderful day and Happy early St. Patty's Day!!! > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > , Elektra Fire > > <elektra.fire@> wrote: > > > > > > If we all just followed 3 simple laws we would live in > > > such a better world. > > > 1. Love thy neighbour. > > > 2. Forgive everybody everything. > > > 3. Thou shall not kill. > > > > > > Simple really..... I'm sure thats what God's been > > > trying to say all a long. > > > > > > Love and hugs > > > elektra x x x > > > > > > > > > _________ > > > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with For Good > > > > > > http://uk.promotions./forgood/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Actually Angelina, I was corrected off line by Ben, the actual golden rule that is most known is the way Lukes states in in Luke 6:31. Do to others as you would have them do to you. What I was stating was actually the 1st and 2nd commamdments. Matthew 22:34-40 And He (Jesus) said to him, " 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, `You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets. " I see these as the same, but Matthew just says it better in my opinion. That little short sentence of Luke's only sums one part, the second comandment, but that is better than nothing. LOL Love, Linda , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > Dear Linda, > > >The first half is to love God with > all your heart and then love your neighbor as your self. The Golden > rules is a subtotally of all the Law, but Jesus himself expanded upon > the golden rule many times throughout his ministry while on earth. > > Thank you for your reply! Perhaps we love our neighbor as ourselves, > because we are all ONE ~ you seem to have a good undertanding of the > bible. I will have to read Matthew chapters 5,6 and 7 and also have > the complete bible on DVD and will have to watch that as well. > > Love, Angelina > > , " Linda " > <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > > Angelina, there was just one Golden rule and to love you nieghbor as > > yourself is only one half of it. The first half is to love God with > > all your heart and then love your neighbor as your self. The Golden > > rules is a subtotally of all the Law, but Jesus himself expanded upon > > the golden rule many times throughout his ministry while on earth. > > Most of Matthew chapters 5, 6, and 7 are direct word of Jesus > > teachings and expanding on the golden rule. > > > > If everyone followed the golden rule, there would be no need for the > > forgive everyone everything nor the " Thou shall not Kill " rule. Those > > two are included in the golden rule. Just my take. > > > > Love & light, > > Linda > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > Right on Elektra! The Golden Rule rules! > > > > > > Have a wonderful day and Happy early St. Patty's Day!!! > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > , Elektra Fire > > > <elektra.fire@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If we all just followed 3 simple laws we would live in > > > > such a better world. > > > > 1. Love thy neighbour. > > > > 2. Forgive everybody everything. > > > > 3. Thou shall not kill. > > > > > > > > Simple really..... I'm sure thats what God's been > > > > trying to say all a long. > > > > > > > > Love and hugs > > > > elektra x x x > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ > > > > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with For Good > > > > > > > > http://uk.promotions./forgood/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Dear Linda, >What I was stating was actually the 1st and 2nd commamdments. Matthew 22:34-40 And He (Jesus) said to him, " 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, `You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets. " Thank you Linda ~ that is beautiful when you think about what He is saying! Love, Angelina , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Actually Angelina, I was corrected off line by Ben, the actual golden > rule that is most known is the way Lukes states in in Luke 6:31. > Do to others as you would have them do to you. > > What I was stating was actually the 1st and 2nd commamdments. > Matthew 22:34-40 > And He (Jesus) said to him, " 'You shall love the Lord your God with > all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This > is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, `You > shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments > depend the whole Law and the Prophets. " > > I see these as the same, but Matthew just says it better in my > opinion. That little short sentence of Luke's only sums one part, the > second comandment, but that is better than nothing. LOL > > Love,> > Linda > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > Dear Linda, > > > > >The first half is to love God with > > all your heart and then love your neighbor as your self. The Golden > > rules is a subtotally of all the Law, but Jesus himself expanded > upon > > the golden rule many times throughout his ministry while on earth. > > > > Thank you for your reply! Perhaps we love our neighbor as > ourselves, > > because we are all ONE ~ you seem to have a good undertanding of the > > bible. I will have to read Matthew chapters 5,6 and 7 and also have > > the complete bible on DVD and will have to watch that as well. > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > , " Linda " > > <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > > > > Angelina, there was just one Golden rule and to love you nieghbor > as > > > yourself is only one half of it. The first half is to love God > with > > > all your heart and then love your neighbor as your self. The > Golden > > > rules is a subtotally of all the Law, but Jesus himself expanded > upon > > > the golden rule many times throughout his ministry while on > earth. > > > Most of Matthew chapters 5, 6, and 7 are direct word of Jesus > > > teachings and expanding on the golden rule. > > > > > > If everyone followed the golden rule, there would be no need for > the > > > forgive everyone everything nor the " Thou shall not Kill " rule. > Those > > > two are included in the golden rule. Just my take. > > > > > > Love & light, > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Right on Elektra! The Golden Rule rules! > > > > > > > > Have a wonderful day and Happy early St. Patty's Day!!! > > > > > > > > Love, Angelina > > > > > > > > , Elektra > Fire > > > > <elektra.fire@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If we all just followed 3 simple laws we would live in > > > > > such a better world. > > > > > 1. Love thy neighbour. > > > > > 2. Forgive everybody everything. > > > > > 3. Thou shall not kill. > > > > > > > > > > Simple really..... I'm sure thats what God's been > > > > > trying to say all a long. > > > > > > > > > > Love and hugs > > > > > elektra x x x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ > > > > > Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with For Good > > > > > > > > > > http://uk.promotions./forgood/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 One wonders about the God who wanted to 'wipe them out'. I always see God as a great love, and it sounds like Moses was more that than God. Thank you for informing me about the true story, Linda. CV , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > CV, I have read the bible at least 20 times and the bible does not say > that Moses came down off the mountain and killed the Israelites for > making a golden calf and worshiping it. It just said it angered God to > the point he (God) desired to wipe them out, but Moses interceded on > their behalf once again (a type of christ). If they had been killed, > there would not have become a Hebrew or Jewish nation after all. It > would have ended right then and there. Moses didn't kill or have those > people killed that day. Moses was the servant of God through whom the > Laws of God were revealed. There where no wars faught until after Moses > died. Even then, the problems (wars and all) the Israelites faced came > from their disobedience to those Laws. IMHO....all death and sickness > comes from the disobedience to the Laws of God. They cannot be broken > with out consequence no matter what religion or non-religion one > follows. Christ coming did not end the law, but fullfilled it. Love > covers over a multitude of broken laws (sins, mistakes, karma) whatever > word one wishes to call it. That is what the bible says, what Jesus > taught. > > Love & light, > Linda > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " celticvoice6 " > <celticvoice6@> wrote: > > > > I personally dont care for Moses. He came down from Mt Sinai with > > the ten commandments in his hand. He saw the people worshipping the > > golden calf and told his men to " Kill them " . So what about those > > commandments he was holding, that say " thou shalt not kill " ? > > I think he had no inner teaching, merely the patriarchal teachings. > > The Cathars, gnostics, sufis, Hindus, had the real secret teachings. > > CV > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Makes me wonder, too, Roz. LOL! It really makes more sense that this Yahweh being is really some dude from the Orion Constellation and is not what we call " the all that is " . He doesn't even make a good symbol for the " All that is " to be honest. Linda , " celticvoice6 " <celticvoice6 wrote: > > One wonders about the God who wanted to 'wipe them out'. I always > see God as a great love, and it sounds like Moses was more that than > God. Thank you for informing me about the true story, Linda. > CV > > > > , " Linda " > <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > > CV, I have read the bible at least 20 times and the bible does not > say > > that Moses came down off the mountain and killed the Israelites > for > > making a golden calf and worshiping it. It just said it angered > God to > > the point he (God) desired to wipe them out, but Moses interceded > on > > their behalf once again (a type of christ). If they had been > killed, > > there would not have become a Hebrew or Jewish nation after all. > It > > would have ended right then and there. Moses didn't kill or have > those > > people killed that day. Moses was the servant of God through whom > the > > Laws of God were revealed. There where no wars faught until after > Moses > > died. Even then, the problems (wars and all) the Israelites faced > came > > from their disobedience to those Laws. IMHO....all death and > sickness > > comes from the disobedience to the Laws of God. They cannot be > broken > > with out consequence no matter what religion or non-religion one > > follows. Christ coming did not end the law, but fullfilled it. > Love > > covers over a multitude of broken laws (sins, mistakes, karma) > whatever > > word one wishes to call it. That is what the bible says, what > Jesus > > taught. > > > > Love & light, > > Linda > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " celticvoice6 " > > <celticvoice6@> wrote: > > > > > > I personally dont care for Moses. He came down from Mt Sinai > with > > > the ten commandments in his hand. He saw the people worshipping > the > > > golden calf and told his men to " Kill them " . So what about > those > > > commandments he was holding, that say " thou shalt not kill " ? > > > I think he had no inner teaching, merely the patriarchal > teachings. > > > The Cathars, gnostics, sufis, Hindus, had the real secret > teachings. > > > CV > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Orion?! Hey that could be right. , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Makes me wonder, too, Roz. LOL! > It really makes more sense that this Yahweh being is really some dude > from the Orion Constellation and is not what we call " the all that > is " . He doesn't even make a good symbol for the " All that is " to be > honest. > > Linda > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " celticvoice6 " > <celticvoice6@> wrote: > > > > One wonders about the God who wanted to 'wipe them out'. I always > > see God as a great love, and it sounds like Moses was more that > than > > God. Thank you for informing me about the true story, Linda. > > CV > > > > > > > > , " Linda " > > <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > > > > CV, I have read the bible at least 20 times and the bible does > not > > say > > > that Moses came down off the mountain and killed the Israelites > > for > > > making a golden calf and worshiping it. It just said it angered > > God to > > > the point he (God) desired to wipe them out, but Moses interceded > > on > > > their behalf once again (a type of christ). If they had been > > killed, > > > there would not have become a Hebrew or Jewish nation after all. > > It > > > would have ended right then and there. Moses didn't kill or have > > those > > > people killed that day. Moses was the servant of God through whom > > the > > > Laws of God were revealed. There where no wars faught until after > > Moses > > > died. Even then, the problems (wars and all) the Israelites faced > > came > > > from their disobedience to those Laws. IMHO....all death and > > sickness > > > comes from the disobedience to the Laws of God. They cannot be > > broken > > > with out consequence no matter what religion or non-religion one > > > follows. Christ coming did not end the law, but fullfilled it. > > Love > > > covers over a multitude of broken laws (sins, mistakes, karma) > > whatever > > > word one wishes to call it. That is what the bible says, what > > Jesus > > > taught. > > > > > > Love & light, > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > > 1 , " celticvoice6 " > > > <celticvoice6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I personally dont care for Moses. He came down from Mt Sinai > > with > > > > the ten commandments in his hand. He saw the people > worshipping > > the > > > > golden calf and told his men to " Kill them " . So what about > > those > > > > commandments he was holding, that say " thou shalt not kill " ? > > > > I think he had no inner teaching, merely the patriarchal > > teachings. > > > > The Cathars, gnostics, sufis, Hindus, had the real secret > > teachings. > > > > CV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 You know you can put the word Yahweh in the search engine and come up with some really weird stuff. Linda , " celticvoice6 " <celticvoice6 wrote: > > Orion?! Hey that could be right. > > > > > > , " Linda " > <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > > Makes me wonder, too, Roz. LOL! > > It really makes more sense that this Yahweh being is really some > dude > > from the Orion Constellation and is not what we call " the all that > > is " . He doesn't even make a good symbol for the " All that is " to > be > > honest. > > > > Linda > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " celticvoice6 " > > <celticvoice6@> wrote: > > > > > > One wonders about the God who wanted to 'wipe them out'. I > always > > > see God as a great love, and it sounds like Moses was more that > > than > > > God. Thank you for informing me about the true story, Linda. > > > CV > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hello Folks I've been following this topic with much interest as much of this forms the foundation of our modern beliefs. Those who are interested should research the ancient Suma writtings. It is believed that much of Genesis in the bible was copied from these writings, which are believed to be about 5 to 6 thousand years old. Also of interest is the book " Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark " by Lawrence Gardner. The author is a knighted historian and biblical researcher. He provides some interesting informatin which gives one pause for reflection. In addition, The Library of Halexandria is a website written by the nuclear phycisist " Dan Sewell Ward " . The section on " Cronicles of the Earth " provides some information based on the writtings from ancient Suma and the advent of man. Most important is to have fun and keep an open mind. When we close our minds, we also block out some of the light of Gods worlds. Love and Light bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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