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This message was posted on another group I belong to and I was

wondering what anyone's thoughts are on this?

 

Sarita

 

 

" Reiki vs. Kundalini same in My Humble Opinion "

 

Reiki means universal energy. In sanskrit, the word is 'Prana'. In

individuals, when the 'Prana' is sitting coiled in the root chakra,

it is referred to as 'Kundalini'. When all chakras are open and

the 'sushumna' that carries the 'prana'/'kundalini'/'reiki' through

the chakras (starting at root chakra and exiting from the sahasrara)

is opened as well, the 'prana'/'reiki' rises sufficiently to give

healing powers.

 

when we talk about reiki or kundalini, we are talking about the same

universal energy.

 

Yes, we all have it, but to make the kundalini rise (reiki

attunement), effort or blessing is required.

 

Sages with high spiritual growth have been known to raise the

kundalini of aspirants just by 'will' or 'touch'. One who has the

kundalini risen, can transfer the vibrations to others by 'will'.

 

However, worldly affairs and associated emotions/thoughts can close

the chakrs, making the 'kundalini' dormant again.

 

in short, there is no conflict...reiki is same as kundalini or prana.

 

love and peace

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The way I understand chrism is that a K activation can go back

dormant, but once it becomes a full awakening, there's no going back.

I have not read much about reiki, so I should not be replying.

Hehe! :)

 

Linda

 

, " Sarita "

<sarita1969 wrote:

>

> This message was posted on another group I belong to and I was

> wondering what anyone's thoughts are on this?

>

> Sarita

>

>

> " Reiki vs. Kundalini same in My Humble Opinion "

>

> Reiki means universal energy. In sanskrit, the word is 'Prana'. In

> individuals, when the 'Prana' is sitting coiled in the root chakra,

> it is referred to as 'Kundalini'. When all chakras are open and

> the 'sushumna' that carries the 'prana'/'kundalini'/'reiki' through

> the chakras (starting at root chakra and exiting from the

sahasrara)

> is opened as well, the 'prana'/'reiki' rises sufficiently to give

> healing powers.

>

> when we talk about reiki or kundalini, we are talking about the

same

> universal energy.

>

> Yes, we all have it, but to make the kundalini rise (reiki

> attunement), effort or blessing is required.

>

> Sages with high spiritual growth have been known to raise the

> kundalini of aspirants just by 'will' or 'touch'. One who has the

> kundalini risen, can transfer the vibrations to others by 'will'.

>

> However, worldly affairs and associated emotions/thoughts can close

> the chakrs, making the 'kundalini' dormant again.

>

> in short, there is no conflict...reiki is same as kundalini or

prana.

>

> love and peace

>

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I meant to tell you, Sarita, about this webpage I happened upon a

week or so ago that tell about how prana operates in our bodies. I

believe this article states that the prana (the rose color prana)

which is the general prana is the prana send out through reiki. I

don't remeber if that is the same as is the K prana. I know it said

someting about that, but I don't remember exactly how it was stated.

Kind of a long compicated article, but interesting.

 

http://logos_endless_summer.tripod.com/id100.html

 

It's worth reading.

Linda

 

, " Linda "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> The way I understand chrism is that a K activation can go back

> dormant, but once it becomes a full awakening, there's no going

back.

> I have not read much about reiki, so I should not be replying.

> Hehe! :)

>

> Linda

>

> , " Sarita "

> <sarita1969@> wrote:

> >

> > This message was posted on another group I belong to and I was

> > wondering what anyone's thoughts are on this?

> >

> > Sarita

> >

> >

> > " Reiki vs. Kundalini same in My Humble Opinion "

> >

> > Reiki means universal energy. In sanskrit, the word is 'Prana'.

In

> > individuals, when the 'Prana' is sitting coiled in the root

chakra,

> > it is referred to as 'Kundalini'. When all chakras are open and

> > the 'sushumna' that carries the 'prana'/'kundalini'/'reiki'

through

> > the chakras (starting at root chakra and exiting from the

> sahasrara)

> > is opened as well, the 'prana'/'reiki' rises sufficiently to give

> > healing powers.

> >

> > when we talk about reiki or kundalini, we are talking about the

> same

> > universal energy.

> >

> > Yes, we all have it, but to make the kundalini rise (reiki

> > attunement), effort or blessing is required.

> >

> > Sages with high spiritual growth have been known to raise the

> > kundalini of aspirants just by 'will' or 'touch'. One who has the

> > kundalini risen, can transfer the vibrations to others by 'will'.

> >

> > However, worldly affairs and associated emotions/thoughts can

close

> > the chakrs, making the 'kundalini' dormant again.

> >

> > in short, there is no conflict...reiki is same as kundalini or

> prana.

> >

> > love and peace

> >

>

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Hello Sarita I hope you do not feel I am in any way casting an

aspersion towards you or your friends - I am not. This is simply my

opinion about Reiki Kundalini and other forms of Reiki.

 

There are typically no easy ways to the Kundalini. Reiki isn't the

same no matter how much inaccurate information is mixed with

accurate information, presented and processed, turned and reshaped

to fit a desired similarity.

 

There are many areas of inaccuracy here with what this author wrote

Sarita, but as it isn't going to change the writer's ideas or

outlook I find it more of a demonstration of competition between

practices. Serves a limited purpose.

 

Suffice to say that when you " purchase " an " attunement " (even this

word is a form of blurred vision imho) you do not " of a sudden "

become enlightened or Kundalini active, in most cases, or given

anything other than a " lighter " version of your pocket book.

 

Don't get me wrong Reiki in and of itself can be good if the

practitioner

has that quality. A nice (expensive) visit to a nice person though

nothing more.

 

Reiki in practice and current form has become subverted by the

commercial interests of greed and ego and it is these greedy and

egotistic aspects of those practitioners who wish to place

themselves above or in a " higher plane of existence " or " Soul

Maturation " than those around them. It's an ego thing that can make

money. Not saying " ALL " are this way just most.IMHO.

 

Most of these commercial interests will allow you to twist in the

Wind that you may order some more of their " therapies " as you suffer

from what isn't Kundalini but other common forms of energetic

illnesses:

The need for loving attention or even a weak facsimile of it

The need to feel differently about ones self - special

The permission to be well despite the medical community

Another approach to health or spiritual experience

An entity incursion into your energetic and physical body.

There are too many more to list.

 

These are not " bad " reasons though the entity issue can be a

challenge. They are just not related to Kundalini in as much as they

are related to dysfunctional issues of our society. And from that

vantage point Rieki, as practiced today, does serve a purpose. But

not towards the activation - in most cases - of the Kundalini.

 

If a person is already leaning towards this Kundalini experience

then the Rieki may be the proverbial straw.

 

Most Kundalini Rieki practitioners do not in actuality have the

Kundalini. They have an ego oriented, self sustaining wish

fulfillment or an embedded entity among other scenarios imho.

 

As they do not understand or

know what the Kundalini feels like or it's dynamic upon the body and

they are only symptom oriented, they

go with what they feel right or wrong, good if it feels good, bad if

it feels bad, imagined or otherwise, often blinded by ignorance of

an entity coursing through the

body.

 

Not all but many do have this issue and because of the problems that

can ensue I do not support or embrace or in any way encourage people

to purchase or receive " attunements " designed to awaken the

Kundalini.

 

Dr. Usui, the founder of Rieki, EARNED his activation basically by

doing what amounts to the " safeties " as described on this site. He

helped and served his fellow human beings. Most often for FREE. He

meditated for weeks in a cave on the side of a mountain and was

willing to stay there until he died if he didn't receive the gift he

was searching for. This was what we call Kundalini, what he called

Rieki. He used this

force with honor and love in service to others diligently. Not for

self aggrandizement or commercial interests. The qualities of

transfer of this energy are negated by the individual's lack of

selfless service and other aspects of nascent cultivation.

 

I am not labeling all Rieki practitioners in a negative

light " some " , a very precious few,

are very positive love based people who get it. Some have awakened

the

Kundalini. Most, the great majority, have not. Buyer beware. -

 

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Sarita, wouldn't that be saying all the world religions are the same

too? I think I remember reading somewhere that there are 7 major world

religions, they say six but then they don't mention satanic.

 

Yes, it's all EMF `electro magnetic field' or the light spectrum, all

the way from ultra low frequencies to gamma rays. To say their

different is like saying European electricity is different from US

electricity.

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On reflection Sarita let me respond more directly to the post.

Please see below bracketed by @@

 

, " Sarita "

<sarita1969 wrote:

>

> This message was posted on another group I belong to and I was

> wondering what anyone's thoughts are on this?

>

> Sarita

>

>

> " Reiki vs. Kundalini same in My Humble Opinion "

>

> Reiki means universal energy.

 

@@ Sanskrit isnt very well understood and there are many

interpretations of what Prana is. Here is another one:

 

Prana is a subtle material energy arising from rajo guna. It works

as an interface between gross and subtle body, enabling all the

psychophysical functions (i.e. animation - from Latin " anima " ). This

sometimes leads to confusion of prana with jiva. Although they are

very closely connected, prana is witnessed by the jiva which is

floating in prana in the heart cavity. Katha Upanisad 1.3.1 says:

 

rtam pibantau sukrtasya loke

guham pravistau parame parardhe

chayatapau brahmavido vadanti

pancagnayo ye ca tri-naciketah

 

" O Naciketa, the expansions of Lord Visnu as the tiny living being

(jiva) and the Supersoul both stay within the cave of the heart of

this body. In that cavity the living being, resting on the main

prana, enjoys the results of activities, and the Supersoul, acting

as witness enables him to enjoy them. Those who are well-versed in

knowledge of Brahman and those householders who carefully follow the

Vedic regulations say that the difference between the two is like

the difference between a shadow and the sun. "

 

Prana's movement leads to jiva's identification with the gross body

(SB 4.29.71). Mundaka Upanishad (3.1.9):

 

 

In sanskrit, the word is 'Prana'. In

> individuals, when the 'Prana' is sitting coiled in the root

chakra,

> it is referred to as 'Kundalini'.

 

@@ This would be Shakti not Prana if we are following the Vedics @@

 

When all chakras are open and

> the 'sushumna' that carries the 'prana'/'kundalini'/'reiki'

through

> the chakras (starting at root chakra and exiting from the

sahasrara)

> is opened as well, the 'prana'/'reiki' rises sufficiently to give

> healing powers.

 

@@ Shakti rises and mixes with prana completing the " divine

circuit " . Openning of chakras is a symptom of an activation not the

cause @@

 

 

 

>

> when we talk about reiki or kundalini, we are talking about the

same

> universal energy.

 

@@ Wishfull thinking. A Conjecture based in ignorance. This is not

unusual. It is a common theme that has gone on for thousands of

years. @@

>

> Yes, we all have it, but to make the kundalini rise (reiki

> attunement), effort or blessing is required.

 

@@ lol @@

>

> Sages with high spiritual growth have been known to raise the

> kundalini of aspirants just by 'will' or 'touch'. One who has the

> kundalini risen, can transfer the vibrations to others by 'will'.

>

> However, worldly affairs and associated emotions/thoughts can

close

> the chakrs, making the 'kundalini' dormant again.

>

> in short, there is no conflict...reiki is same as kundalini or

prana.

 

@@ No they are different if we are following the Vedic model which

is what they based their original premise on. Reiki practitioners

are continuously striving for a validation of Reiki itself. Calling

it Kundalini or calling it clam chowder doesnt make it so. Just

underscores a feeling of insecurity that many Reiki folks seem to

have about this practice called Reiki. Some Reiki people do activate

though, so there is room for the comparisons.@@

>

> love and peace

>

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Thanks Linda! I will take a look at it.

 

Sarita

 

, " Linda "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>

> I meant to tell you, Sarita, about this webpage I happened upon a

> week or so ago that tell about how prana operates in our bodies. I

> believe this article states that the prana (the rose color prana)

> which is the general prana is the prana send out through reiki. I

> don't remeber if that is the same as is the K prana. I know it said

> someting about that, but I don't remember exactly how it was

stated.

> Kind of a long compicated article, but interesting.

>

> http://logos_endless_summer.tripod.com/id100.html

>

> It's worth reading.

> Linda

>

> , " Linda "

> <crazycats711@> wrote:

> >

> > The way I understand chrism is that a K activation can go back

> > dormant, but once it becomes a full awakening, there's no going

> back.

> > I have not read much about reiki, so I should not be replying.

> > Hehe! :)

> >

> > Linda

> >

> > , " Sarita "

> > <sarita1969@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This message was posted on another group I belong to and I was

> > > wondering what anyone's thoughts are on this?

> > >

> > > Sarita

> > >

> > >

> > > " Reiki vs. Kundalini same in My Humble Opinion "

> > >

> > > Reiki means universal energy. In sanskrit, the word is 'Prana'.

> In

> > > individuals, when the 'Prana' is sitting coiled in the root

> chakra,

> > > it is referred to as 'Kundalini'. When all chakras are open and

> > > the 'sushumna' that carries the 'prana'/'kundalini'/'reiki'

> through

> > > the chakras (starting at root chakra and exiting from the

> > sahasrara)

> > > is opened as well, the 'prana'/'reiki' rises sufficiently to

give

> > > healing powers.

> > >

> > > when we talk about reiki or kundalini, we are talking about the

> > same

> > > universal energy.

> > >

> > > Yes, we all have it, but to make the kundalini rise (reiki

> > > attunement), effort or blessing is required.

> > >

> > > Sages with high spiritual growth have been known to raise the

> > > kundalini of aspirants just by 'will' or 'touch'. One who has

the

> > > kundalini risen, can transfer the vibrations to others

by 'will'.

> > >

> > > However, worldly affairs and associated emotions/thoughts can

> close

> > > the chakrs, making the 'kundalini' dormant again.

> > >

> > > in short, there is no conflict...reiki is same as kundalini or

> > prana.

> > >

> > > love and peace

> > >

> >

>

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The author is not a friend just someone on a NDE group. She stated

this as if she knew what she was talking about and it didn't ring

true to me. Since I am so new on this path, I wanted to ask the

seasoned people for opinions to see if I was correct. I got the

distinct feeling that she has never experienced Kundalini and if she

did would not have posted that message, lol.

 

Thank you for the information.

 

Sarita

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Sarita I hope you do not feel I am in any way casting an

> aspersion towards you or your friends - I am not. This is simply my

> opinion about Reiki Kundalini and other forms of Reiki.

>

> There are typically no easy ways to the Kundalini. Reiki isn't the

> same no matter how much inaccurate information is mixed with

> accurate information, presented and processed, turned and reshaped

> to fit a desired similarity.

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Thank you for the detailed info Chrism! I laughed too when I read the

part about kundalini rising (reiki attunement). I was already

disturbed by the post but that sent me over the edge, lol.

 

I only wish that I could go back and tell some of this info but I fear

I will ruffle feathers. Perhaps I will simply give the link to the K

website and others can read it for themselves.

 

Sarita

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> On reflection Sarita let me respond more directly to the post.

> Please see below bracketed by @@

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I always felt uncomfortable with paying for reiki and

charging for it.

In fact I had my master attunement done by a friend

and payed only a donation.

Where I was staying in Thailand (a small village)

there was a group of middle aged women living there

making a good living off reiki... I called them the

reiki police, if anyone came in to town doing free

reiki they would start slandering them or talking

about them behind their backs. The women were

alcoholics, emotional wrecks etc.

I saw the ugly side of reiki here and it really turned

me off.

These women were charging very high prices and had

huge ego's also seemed to have many problems

themselves, how could they heal another? Yep, it was a

sad sight indeed.

 

Nearly all the healings I have given whilst travelling

the world I gave for free, including attunements and

people always commented on how profound they were. I

instinctively felt that money passing hands was not

for me, it made me feel really uncomfortble. I felt

that doing it as a gift/service made the energy more

pure or powerful.

 

I did have a free attunement from a man I met before

coming to chrisms site, he had been in japan studying

what he called the true reiki (he said the west has a

watered down, weak version) it involved dragons

breathe and kundalini and service, he did not charge

for his work ever. My heart chakra was blown open the

day after, like a glowing sun, I had never felt such a

powerful attunement. The man kept telling me, " It

wasn't me it was you Elektra, not the attunement but

your willingness to love " .

 

Thats why I was drawn to Chrism, I knew he was the

real deal as he was not charging for his time or

disempowering me. The work is it's payment, to serve

is to be enriched, God will support your material

needs in other ways.

 

Just my personal feelings and experiences. No offence

to any working healers in anyway :)

 

Love Elektra x x x

 

 

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I read and pondered this thread on Kundalini and Reiki last

night...and slept on it as well.

 

This morning during meditation I was shown that there is also a

parallel within the experience of (don't know the exact terms) when

receiving the Light from the top down, and also within some Christian

Churches and Denominations.

 

I saw that many things are built up around the Reality, even when it

is not actively present and lived. That explains a lot of things to me.

 

The Scripture verse that came to my mind was, " With their lips they

praise Me, but their hearts are far from Me. "

 

When Kundalini and Spirit are not truly active in a life, and that

life parades along as if it is, then many can be deceived and robbed.

I left many situations where all the right trappings were there, but

no true substance. I am grateful for this further understanding about

it. Many times I wondered why I couldn't fit in. Now I see it clearly.

I was told many times " not to rock the boat. " My heart response was

always, " I won't rock it, I'll sink the ------ thing. "

 

Thank you for this thread everyone.

Love, dhyana

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Sarita I hope you do not feel I am in any way casting an

> aspersion towards you or your friends - I am not. This is simply my

> opinion about Reiki Kundalini and other forms of Reiki.

>

> There are typically no easy ways to the Kundalini. Reiki isn't the

> same no matter how much inaccurate information is mixed with

> accurate information, presented and processed, turned and reshaped

> to fit a desired similarity.

>

> There are many areas of inaccuracy here with what this author wrote

> Sarita, but as it isn't going to change the writer's ideas or

> outlook I find it more of a demonstration of competition between

> practices. Serves a limited purpose.

>

> Suffice to say that when you " purchase " an " attunement " (even this

> word is a form of blurred vision imho) you do not " of a sudden "

> become enlightened or Kundalini active, in most cases, or given

> anything other than a " lighter " version of your pocket book.

>

> Don't get me wrong Reiki in and of itself can be good if the

> practitioner

> has that quality. A nice (expensive) visit to a nice person though

> nothing more.

>

> Reiki in practice and current form has become subverted by the

> commercial interests of greed and ego and it is these greedy and

> egotistic aspects of those practitioners who wish to place

> themselves above or in a " higher plane of existence " or " Soul

> Maturation " than those around them. It's an ego thing that can make

> money. Not saying " ALL " are this way just most.IMHO.

>

> Most of these commercial interests will allow you to twist in the

> Wind that you may order some more of their " therapies " as you suffer

> from what isn't Kundalini but other common forms of energetic

> illnesses:

> The need for loving attention or even a weak facsimile of it

> The need to feel differently about ones self - special

> The permission to be well despite the medical community

> Another approach to health or spiritual experience

> An entity incursion into your energetic and physical body.

> There are too many more to list.

>

> These are not " bad " reasons though the entity issue can be a

> challenge. They are just not related to Kundalini in as much as they

> are related to dysfunctional issues of our society. And from that

> vantage point Rieki, as practiced today, does serve a purpose. But

> not towards the activation - in most cases - of the Kundalini.

>

> If a person is already leaning towards this Kundalini experience

> then the Rieki may be the proverbial straw.

>

> Most Kundalini Rieki practitioners do not in actuality have the

> Kundalini. They have an ego oriented, self sustaining wish

> fulfillment or an embedded entity among other scenarios imho.

>

> As they do not understand or

> know what the Kundalini feels like or it's dynamic upon the body and

> they are only symptom oriented, they

> go with what they feel right or wrong, good if it feels good, bad if

> it feels bad, imagined or otherwise, often blinded by ignorance of

> an entity coursing through the

> body.

>

> Not all but many do have this issue and because of the problems that

> can ensue I do not support or embrace or in any way encourage people

> to purchase or receive " attunements " designed to awaken the

> Kundalini.

>

> Dr. Usui, the founder of Rieki, EARNED his activation basically by

> doing what amounts to the " safeties " as described on this site. He

> helped and served his fellow human beings. Most often for FREE. He

> meditated for weeks in a cave on the side of a mountain and was

> willing to stay there until he died if he didn't receive the gift he

> was searching for. This was what we call Kundalini, what he called

> Rieki. He used this

> force with honor and love in service to others diligently. Not for

> self aggrandizement or commercial interests. The qualities of

> transfer of this energy are negated by the individual's lack of

> selfless service and other aspects of nascent cultivation.

>

> I am not labeling all Rieki practitioners in a negative

> light " some " , a very precious few,

> are very positive love based people who get it. Some have awakened

> the

> Kundalini. Most, the great majority, have not. Buyer beware. -

>

>

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As I understand it there is energy and it takes it many forms. Reiki is a

technique intuitively

received by Usui who was a meditator seeking to become enlightened. From his

various

backgrounds he combined elements and then found out how to use the reiki energy

on

himself. When he brought it to others then he did so as a tool to be used by

individuals

to enlighten themselves. He met with aspirants weekly and gave them treatments

to

boost their own energy, sort of like shaktipat. Then they were to use this

energy

boost to treat themselves with the hands on treatment to themselves. It was

never

intended by Usui that Reiki be used as a healing modality for other people and

for

money making, that all came after he died. Reiki basically invokes symbols,

which

resonate with various frequencies in the human body, which provide a clear and

higher frequency with which your body can use this to heal itself (= make

itself

more aware). Reiki symbols are based on intent, and on kotodama which are

basic sounds that activate certain energy centers in the body.

The other basic thing to know is that any lying on of hands technique in

an intentional way will create an energy loop in the body, boosting healing

frequencies. This is the same thing that happens when one puts their tongue

on the roof of their mouth... There is a free ebook on the history of Usui

and the original intent of Reiki and also how to use Reiki on yourself on

this website: http://johreiki.net/

The person who has this website is also authentic and will give free

attunements.

Gone are the days where you have to give money to people to be able to

understand and give yourself Reiki.

 

When I first used reiki on myself I knew it was what I needed, I felt the

energy in myself respond to it, and my consciousness started rising immediately.

I was on the hunt at the time for a way to rise my energetic vibration because

I had observed from my various practices that I was doing intently that when

my internal vibration was higher I was more aware. There was no doubt to me

then that finding a way to increase my vibration would help me to become more

aware. Then I dived into reiki and learned self treatment through

experimentation

and observation of the results, using my intuition on how to use reiki, it was

only

about a month later that the kundalini activated fully. I have typed up what I

thought were the most pertinent and insightful aspects of the self-treatment

using

reiki that I found most effective. it's on my website:

http://phoenixtools.org/tools/quickguide.htm

So from this you can do reiki self-treatment without attunement or classes.

Totally free, you only have to try it and observe and see if it's for you or

not.

 

Is kundalini the same as reiki? No, kundalini energy is the energy of yourself

that lies dormant because it is suppressed by the dominance of your personality.

You yourself are holding kundalini energy dormant. The more you get out of the

way, the more it reveals itself. Reiki energy is directed by you with the

intention

to resonate with certain predefined frequencies (Chokurei and seiheiki, besides

others), which boost your own frequency. So in a sense reiki energy is also

yourself, just that you are resonating to another frequency. You can change

your frequency via entrainment and resonance from chyrstals,

metal rings, from nature, from people you hang around with, etc, with or

without intention.

 

Universal energy could be understood to be energy that permeates everything

so is also part of everything, which of course includes yourself. In it's

unformed

state all energy has the same source and is the same, yet there is no energy

that

is not unformed, it is all formed. So the form, resonates with it's own

vibration,

it's unique signature. Can one channel universal energy? Doesn't seem possible,

to be able to access anything, you have to give it a form, an intention. But

this is

the great thing, with our mind and our emotions we can form an intention and

make it possible to manifest what we want.

 

Betsy

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Yes, reminds me of the verse that goes " by their fruits ye shall know

them " . There are a lot of people out there who think they know

something or seem as though they have special knowledge that the rest

of us are not privy to. When you question their beliefs, even

slightly, you stir up a hornets nest. Many are not interested in a

little challenge, they just want you to accept what they say as law

and leave it at that. Someone who has true knowledge will welcome

challenges and offer explanations in order to help you understand and

will never try to take away your free will.

 

There is none so dangerous as someone with just enough knowledge to

be a detriment to others. Especially when there are those listening

who take this as truth because the person sounds like they are an

authority.

 

Yes, this ties in with religion very closely unfortunately. Thanks

for posting your thoughts Dhyana.

 

Sarita

 

 

 

, " novalees "

<Novalees wrote:

>

>

> I read and pondered this thread on Kundalini and Reiki last

> night...and slept on it as well.

>

> This morning during meditation I was shown that there is also a

> parallel within the experience of (don't know the exact terms) when

> receiving the Light from the top down, and also within some

Christian

> Churches and Denominations.

>

> I saw that many things are built up around the Reality, even when it

> is not actively present and lived. That explains a lot of things to

me.

>

> The Scripture verse that came to my mind was, " With their lips they

> praise Me, but their hearts are far from Me. "

>

> When Kundalini and Spirit are not truly active in a life, and that

> life parades along as if it is, then many can be deceived and

robbed.

> I left many situations where all the right trappings were there, but

> no true substance. I am grateful for this further understanding

about

> it. Many times I wondered why I couldn't fit in. Now I see it

clearly.

> I was told many times " not to rock the boat. " My heart response was

> always, " I won't rock it, I'll sink the ------ thing. "

>

> Thank you for this thread everyone.

> Love, dhyana

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Thanks for the info Betsy and the links. I will read over the info.

 

Sarita

 

, " betsy "

<ystebanar wrote:

>

> As I understand it there is energy and it takes it many forms. Reiki

is a technique intuitively

> received by Usui who was a meditator seeking to become enlightened.

From his various

> backgrounds he combined elements and then found out how to use the

reiki energy on

> himself. When he brought it to others then he did so as a tool to

be used by individuals

> to enlighten themselves. He met with aspirants weekly and gave them

treatments to

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