Dealing with discouragement-Ruth

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Yes, Ruth, you've helped a lot. Thank you for writing

such a detailed response, addressing each of my points

of discouragement. You have given me much to consider

and reflect on, but most of all you have given me love

and support and encouragement and a feeling of being

no different from anyone else in my dark moments. God

bless you, Ruth,

 

Love, Claudia

 

--- soreadalready <soreadalready wrote:

 

> Dear Claudia,

>

> first the back pain, it could be actually a

> signature or evidence of

> the energy. It could be a blockage a normal history

> based or

> emotional experienced based prior experience sort of

> located there,or

> clearing karma (someone said that or used that term

> near me before)

> sort of statement that the energy is there. And it

> is working and at

> that point (locataion)or that chakra there is work

> to do or being

> done. Its not bad its a process. It's like that

> locataion, it some

> sort of or a, metaphysical touch point in time. Like

> it's a focal

> point between all the indixes in eternity juxtaposed

> in the now. As

> indicated in that one point in your back.

> and hinging around it circle all these past memories

> and concerns or

> worries and experiences and sorrows and realities.

> And today you, you

> get the opportunity to have energy move through and

> clear this with

> you, with your consent.

>

> second sometimes stress and or emotional pain or

> feelings even like

> anger are experienced in one or another set of

> muscles or even areas

> in the body. and they can be from the past, not even

> in the now. and

> that can be reactivated so either we can know it,

> know about it, or

> right now, through the physical to the spiritual-

> feel it.

> and we CAN forgive it.

> come to peace with it.

> maybe another time or place resonating still and now

> it can be felt

> and cleared freeing you for more love without that

> whirlpool. it's

> like an eddy from the past, (maybe some distant

> past) stilling an

> energy chanel.

>

> so even before energy is moving some areas of work

> and learning and

> release may bring greater and greater peace as they

> are experienced.

> This increases the ability to love more freely,

> increase an ease in

> service, increases forgiveness through some of those

> late night

> adventures (dreaming) find solace in the soul for

> now...changing

> always.

>

> next receiving energy and finding oneself outside of

> negativity may

> be the chance (LOL and challenge) for some of us of

> a lifetime! a

> lifetime.

>

> what a joy it is to be here on this list at this

> time for me. Every

> time I receive great energy or have experiences then

> later during

> some quiet interval I realize I am not all that much

> anyways I never

> was I am just me. a part of god. so loved. but just

> here I am.

>

> This feeling of discouragement I so share withyou.

> Every time I hope

> or label I am 'so good' thinking to be better or

> more or " more'

> talented/ gooder somehow than someone somewhere-

> then oh my gosh!

> crash me down!! when I see another limitation EVEN

> experience a life

> lesson delivered in love! which i needed !! with

> great I love so

> much stated and hug at the end!!

> it is EASY to be discouraged.

>

> EVEN the feeling of that back pain really says

> something about waking

> up and processing and being more aware.

>

> and being in emptiness in meditation or quiet

> prayer- don't get me

> started! when the waves of self criticism roll in

> and finding flaw

> and fault instead of this vast vault of love.

> oh my goodness!

> but praying and loving and serving and giving and

> communicating- will

> through this amazing love roll back the waves and

> peace and real hope

> can begin- I can feel it sometimes. It comes, at

> intervals. between

> distinguishing or feeling areas of invalidation

> earned invalidation

> and self criticism which need thought. and love. and

> time. and,

> Forgiveness.

>

> I hope I've helped. Love, Ruth

>

>

>

>

> -- In ,

> Claudia

> Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote:

> >

> > Dear group,

> >

> > has suggested that I share with you some

> > personal correspondence we had this weekend in

> hopes

> > that it may help others in the group having

> similar

> > issues. This is very personal, but if helps

> someone

> > else, then I will be happy and try not to be too

> > embarrassed.

> >

> > Here are three posts; my post to Chrism, his

> response

> > to me, and my response to him.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Dear Chrism:

> >

> > I'm very discouraged.

> >

> > I never meditated before I started with the K...I

> am

> > having a hard time with it, trying to keep

> thoughts

> > out of my mind. I've heard differing opinions

> about

> > using guided meditation/music versus NOT using

> them.

> > I've tried both, I keep trying both, but I don't

> see

> > any progress whatsoever. Each time a thought

> comes

> > into my head, I think 'good thought...I'll think

> about

> > that later' and let it go. But they keep coming

> and

> > coming. Next thing I know 20 or 30 minutes has

> passed

> > and all I've done is volley thoughts.

> >

> > I keep having back problems. I got through the

> lower

> > back pain during the middle part of April and was

> able

> > to start doing Yoga. Then, on April 24, a new

> pain

> > started, this one more severe than the lower back

> > pain...it was all across my shoulders and

> radiating up

> > into the back of my neck. It lasted 10 days,

> during

> > which time it moved around the shoulder/neck area,

> > finally settling right between my shoulder blades

> > before it finally subsided. The pain was so

> intense

> > at night that I could not sleep without taking

> > ibuprofen; I know you said not to medicate, but I

> did

> > so in order to sleep.

> >

> > During the times of back pain, my Yoga/Tibetans

> > suffered. I did the spinning, but the pain was

> too

> > strong to do much of anything else, although I did

> > what I could. I also feared making the pain worse

> by

> > doing certain exercises.

> >

> > I am not at all convinced that the pain is due to

> the

> > K. In both cases, there were other possible

> causes

> > for the pain; the lower back pain, the 5th

> Tibetan;

> > the shoulder/neck pain, dead-lifting about 25 lbs.

> > with my extended left arm.

> >

> > I am also having a hard time with joy. I take

> great

> > joy in nature. When I'm driving and from work,

> etc.,

>

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