Enlightenment

March 31, 2007

Is this what you seek? What does it mean to you? Really, take a

moment and ask yourself what that means to you. Does it mean that

you no longer have connection to the physical? Or that you have one

foot in heaven and the other here on Earth? This is how it is for

me. In actuality though both feet are in both places at the same

time.

As some of you are learning there is a direct physical quality to

what it means to be " enlightened " or perhaps put this way " in light

ined " There is light that comes from with in and it is a very real

and visually tangible experience. Kundalini is the only condition

that I know of that can bring this to a person. Regardless of how

the Kundalini gets activated this is a product of its activation.

Does it make you all knowing, all seeing, and ascended? No it

doesn't. But it does start you on a path that can lead you into

areas and conditions that have some of those qualities.

For myself(ves) I have not found enlightenment to be instantaneous.

Although much of what does occur is instant for me these days

enlightenment is without parameters and cannot really be discussed

with the limited word. It is so vast and so expansive and yet so

small and serene at the same time.

So we must rely on what we can understand and measure and describe.

This would be the " phenomena " of enlightenment. Focusing on

phenomena is a slippery slope as it can be very addictive and can

cloud the eyes of the traveler by its fantastic displays of seeming

magical or miraculous demonstrations.

Some of you right now are so focused on " phenomena " that when it

stops you will feel as if Kundalini has left you. It hasn't, but the

body needs time to process the very rapid changes that may be

occurring inside and upon it. So the phenomena will subside.

So let us understand the difference between " phenomena "

and " enlightenment. "

Enlightenment is the condition of having both feet in heaven and

both feet on the Earth. In my experience. All the heavens and all

the Earths. In all times and all aspects. The " All " that is. This is

not typically achieved while in the limited form of flesh.

Typically. But you upon this path are not typical. And so you will

achieve bits and pieces of enlightenment as you proceed upon the

path of Kundalini.

This is where your integrity and discernment, trust and honesty

needs to become your compass. As the phenomena comes use it for the

service of others. But realize that phenomena is only a temporary

show. It is there for you at the beginning and as you become less

and less surprised with it, it becomes the natural state.

Soon it disappears altogether. And you just radiate. And allow what

needs to occur to occur. You step outside the paradigm of willfully

inflicted change and step inside the gates of Divine based change.

Kundalini is the bridge of Divine on one side and physical on the

other side. And while you walk and breathe this bridge will be

crossed.

Let the phenomena guide you, but do not get lost or addicted to it

as it is only the first layer of the shell that covers the true

gift. The true gift is the first steps into enlightenment. This is

beyond phenomena and carries qualities that can only really be felt

through Bliss and ecstasy, joy and non-attachment. - blessings -

chrism

March 31, 2007

Very thought provoking chrism... Thanks...

Blessings to all...

Paul

> " chrism " <>

>

> Enlightenment

>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:55:33 -0000

>

> Is this what you seek? What does it mean to you? Really, take a

>moment and ask yourself what that means to you. Does it mean that

>you no longer have connection to the physical? Or that you have one

>foot in heaven and the other here on Earth? This is how it is for

>me. In actuality though both feet are in both places at the same

>time.

>

>As some of you are learning there is a direct physical quality to

>what it means to be " enlightened " or perhaps put this way " in light

>ined " There is light that comes from with in and it is a very real

>and visually tangible experience. Kundalini is the only condition

>that I know of that can bring this to a person. Regardless of how

>the Kundalini gets activated this is a product of its activation.

>

>Does it make you all knowing, all seeing, and ascended? No it

>doesn't. But it does start you on a path that can lead you into

>areas and conditions that have some of those qualities.

>

>For myself(ves) I have not found enlightenment to be instantaneous.

>Although much of what does occur is instant for me these days

>enlightenment is without parameters and cannot really be discussed

>with the limited word. It is so vast and so expansive and yet so

>small and serene at the same time.

>

>So we must rely on what we can understand and measure and describe.

>This would be the " phenomena " of enlightenment. Focusing on

>phenomena is a slippery slope as it can be very addictive and can

>cloud the eyes of the traveler by its fantastic displays of seeming

>magical or miraculous demonstrations.

>

>Some of you right now are so focused on " phenomena " that when it

>stops you will feel as if Kundalini has left you. It hasn't, but the

>body needs time to process the very rapid changes that may be

>occurring inside and upon it. So the phenomena will subside.

>

>So let us understand the difference between " phenomena "

>and " enlightenment. "

>

>Enlightenment is the condition of having both feet in heaven and

>both feet on the Earth. In my experience. All the heavens and all

>the Earths. In all times and all aspects. The " All " that is. This is

>not typically achieved while in the limited form of flesh.

>Typically. But you upon this path are not typical. And so you will

>achieve bits and pieces of enlightenment as you proceed upon the

>path of Kundalini.

>

>This is where your integrity and discernment, trust and honesty

>needs to become your compass. As the phenomena comes use it for the

>service of others. But realize that phenomena is only a temporary

>show. It is there for you at the beginning and as you become less

>and less surprised with it, it becomes the natural state.

>

>Soon it disappears altogether. And you just radiate. And allow what

>needs to occur to occur. You step outside the paradigm of willfully

>inflicted change and step inside the gates of Divine based change.

>Kundalini is the bridge of Divine on one side and physical on the

>other side. And while you walk and breathe this bridge will be

>crossed.

>

>Let the phenomena guide you, but do not get lost or addicted to it

>as it is only the first layer of the shell that covers the true

>gift. The true gift is the first steps into enlightenment. This is

>beyond phenomena and carries qualities that can only really be felt

>through Bliss and ecstasy, joy and non-attachment. - blessings -

>chrism

>

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March 31, 2007

Isn't this the ultimate question! There are so many out there that

are seeking that " addiction " you mentioned. I call them " Spiritual

Ambulance Chasers " . They dabble in everything and excel in nothing,

they suck all the thrills out and move on to the next " in thing " .

I would think that those people either won't become K awakened or else

the K will change them so they are no longer this way. I know nothing

about it, but I would suspect that this incredible power would not

allow for its misuse. On the other hand, the person might need to be

humbled and taught a lesson, so I suppose it could go the other way

too. Well, I just talked my way around in a circle!

Sarita

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Is this what you seek? What does it mean to you? Really, take a

> moment and ask yourself what that means to you.

March 31, 2007

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

Some of you right now are so focused on " phenomena " that when it

stops you will feel as if Kundalini has left you. It hasn't, but

the body needs time to process the very rapid changes that may be

occurring inside and upon it. So the phenomena will subside.

Valarie: Yes, Chrism, I think I'm quite enoying the " phenomenon " while

it lasts because of it's new sensations. But hope not to be addicted to

it because I am looking to move beyond physical and into spiritual

phenomenon.

Soon it disappears altogether. And you just radiate. And allow what

needs to occur to occur.

Valarie: That is my aim!

Let the phenomena guide you, but do not get lost or addicted to it

as it is only the first layer of the shell that covers the true

gift.

V: Thank you, Chrism, for that detailed description. I will go with it

whereever it wants to take me, I think. Like riding the surf wave. Are

the things I'm feeling coming from me or are you facilitating in some

way (as in this scatterfield you mention)?

This is beyond phenomena and carries qualities that can only really be

felt through Bliss and ecstasy, joy and non-attachment.

- blessings -

chrism

V: I am looking forward to that day very much!

Blessings to you also,

Valarie

March 31, 2007

Hello Valarie,

This is coming from you. Your permission to feel it and

the " known " quality of it for you now has opened the permission so

that you are establishing your freedom inside your own phenomena. -

April 1, 2007

Hello-

I don't think about enlightenment. I don't know what enlightenment is, or I am

sure

whatever it is I would not understand it from where I am at now. I do not want

enlightenment as I am sure I don't know what it is so what is it that I would

actually want? I

can guess that if I had enlightenment that the facility of wanting would be

totally

superfluous and non effectual in being enlightened. So there is nothing to want.

What I

would want in wanting enlightenment would have to be something else.

Just my thought-

Bret

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> Is this what you seek? What does it mean to you? Really, take a

> moment and ask yourself what that means to you. Does it mean that

> you no longer have connection to the physical? Or that you have one

> foot in heaven and the other here on Earth? This is how it is for

> me. In actuality though both feet are in both places at the same

> time.

--snip

April 1, 2007

Wow, Bret, you really thought that through! lol,

dhyana

--- bretarenson <bretarenson wrote:

> Hello-

>

> I don't think about enlightenment. I don't know what

> enlightenment is, or I am sure

> whatever it is I would not understand it from where

> I am at now. I do not want

> enlightenment as I am sure I don't know what it is

> so what is it that I would actually want? I

> can guess that if I had enlightenment that the

> facility of wanting would be totally

> superfluous and non effectual in being enlightened.

> So there is nothing to want. What I

> would want in wanting enlightenment would have to be

> something else.

>

> Just my thought-

>

> Bret

>

> --- In

> ,

> " chrism " <>

> wrote:

> >

> > Is this what you seek? What does it mean to

> you? Really, take a

> > moment and ask yourself what that means to you.

> Does it mean that

> > you no longer have connection to the physical? Or

> that you have one

> > foot in heaven and the other here on Earth? This

> is how it is for

> > me. In actuality though both feet are in both

> places at the same

> > time.

> --snip

>

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April 6, 2007

Thank you for sharing with us your thoughts on enlightenment and what it

means to you and how you perceive it. It is always a blessing to hear to words

of the wise and experienced. Thank you so much for your thoughts. Many Blessings

to you dear Chrism.

Love,

Katherine

Paul F <paulffff wrote:

Very thought provoking chrism... Thanks...

Blessings to all...

Paul

> " chrism " <>

>

> Enlightenment

>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:55:33 -0000

>

> Is this what you seek? What does it mean to you? Really, take a

>moment and ask yourself what that means to you. Does it mean that

>you no longer have connection to the physical? Or that you have one

>foot in heaven and the other here on Earth? This is how it is for

>me. In actuality though both feet are in both places at the same

>time.

>

>As some of you are learning there is a direct physical quality to

>what it means to be " enlightened " or perhaps put this way " in light

>ined " There is light that comes from with in and it is a very real

>and visually tangible experience. Kundalini is the only condition

>that I know of that can bring this to a person. Regardless of how

>the Kundalini gets activated this is a product of its activation.

>

>Does it make you all knowing, all seeing, and ascended? No it

>doesn't. But it does start you on a path that can lead you into

>areas and conditions that have some of those qualities.

>

>For myself(ves) I have not found enlightenment to be instantaneous.

>Although much of what does occur is instant for me these days

>enlightenment is without parameters and cannot really be discussed

>with the limited word. It is so vast and so expansive and yet so

>small and serene at the same time.

>

>So we must rely on what we can understand and measure and describe.

>This would be the " phenomena " of enlightenment. Focusing on

>phenomena is a slippery slope as it can be very addictive and can

>cloud the eyes of the traveler by its fantastic displays of seeming

>magical or miraculous demonstrations.

>

>Some of you right now are so focused on " phenomena " that when it

>stops you will feel as if Kundalini has left you. It hasn't, but the

>body needs time to process the very rapid changes that may be

>occurring inside and upon it. So the phenomena will subside.

>

>So let us understand the difference between " phenomena "

>and " enlightenment. "

>

>Enlightenment is the condition of having both feet in heaven and

>both feet on the Earth. In my experience. All the heavens and all

>the Earths. In all times and all aspects. The " All " that is. This is

>not typically achieved while in the limited form of flesh.

>Typically. But you upon this path are not typical. And so you will

>achieve bits and pieces of enlightenment as you proceed upon the

>path of Kundalini.

>

>This is where your integrity and discernment, trust and honesty

>needs to become your compass. As the phenomena comes use it for the

>service of others. But realize that phenomena is only a temporary

>show. It is there for you at the beginning and as you become less

>and less surprised with it, it becomes the natural state.

>

>Soon it disappears altogether. And you just radiate. And allow what

>needs to occur to occur. You step outside the paradigm of willfully

>inflicted change and step inside the gates of Divine based change.

>Kundalini is the bridge of Divine on one side and physical on the

>other side. And while you walk and breathe this bridge will be

>crossed.

>

>Let the phenomena guide you, but do not get lost or addicted to it

>as it is only the first layer of the shell that covers the true

>gift. The true gift is the first steps into enlightenment. This is

>beyond phenomena and carries qualities that can only really be felt

>through Bliss and ecstasy, joy and non-attachment. - blessings -

>chrism

>

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April 6, 2007

All that I know - you know

All that I have - you have

Everything is shared -

April 6, 2007

You mean so much to me, Chrism, to all of us. God

bless you and thank you for all that you share!

Claudia

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> All that I know - you know

> All that I have - you have

> Everything is shared -

>

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Amen.

--- Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote:

> You mean so much to me, Chrism, to all of us. God

> bless you and thank you for all that you share!

>

> Claudia

>

> --- chrism <> wrote:

>

> > All that I know - you know

> > All that I have - you have

> > Everything is shared -

> >

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> >

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April 6, 2007

Thank you for your kind thoughts and words. What I mean to say though is that it

isn't about me. It is about you and your divine connection. I am a friend on

your path. As you come into your truth and natural state you bring those

qualities by reflection to others and they to others and so forth. Everyone here

right now is very special and very important as you are learning the skills that

others will need to learn from you at another time. So please look in the mirror

and be overjoyed at who you see. There is no greater beauty and joy than the

person behind your eyes. Your presence and qualities enhance my life and I am

grateful to you all. -

April 6, 2007

I agree also Chrism... I had given up finding a site such as this on

the web (or anywhere else)...

Many blessings to you and all that you do...

Paul

, novalees

<Novalees wrote:

>

> Amen.

>

> --- Claudia Lambright <newtfoodbowl wrote:

>

> > You mean so much to me, Chrism, to all of us. God

> > bless you and thank you for all that you share!

> >

> > Claudia

April 6, 2007

Dear Chrism, we understand that. Please smile and

receive our love anyway. Hug. Love, dhyana

--- chrism <> wrote:

> Thank you for your kind thoughts and words. What I

> mean to say though is that it isn't about me. It is

> about you and your divine connection. I am a friend

> on your path. As you come into your truth and

> natural state you bring those qualities by

> reflection to others and they to others and so

> forth. Everyone here right now is very special and

> very important as you are learning the skills that

> others will need to learn from you at another time.

> So please look in the mirror and be overjoyed at who

> you see. There is no greater beauty and joy than the

> person behind your eyes. Your presence and qualities

> enhance my life and I am grateful to you all. -

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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April 6, 2007

Yes thank you Dhyana, I do receive in many different ways as you may know! - lol

! -

April 6, 2007

Wonderful! Thank you! I needed that! LOL hahaha

--- chrism <> wrote:

> Yes thank you Dhyana, I do receive in many different

> ways as you may know! - lol ! -

>

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April 6, 2007

Thank you, Chrism! I wouldn't be here if it weren't for you and I

wouldn't be feeling these new things either. So, in mutual

friendship, I say God love you, as he does us all. And I hope we will

be the light to others, someday, that you have been to us. I'm sure

we will be.

Blessings and love,

Valarie

, chrism

<> wrote:

>

> Thank you for your kind thoughts and words. What I mean to say

though is that it isn't about me. It is about you and your divine

connection. I am a friend on your path. As you come into your truth

and natural state you bring those qualities by reflection to others

and they to others and so forth. Everyone here right now is very

special and very important as you are learning the skills that others

will need to learn from you at another time. So please look in the

mirror and be overjoyed at who you see. There is no greater beauty

and joy than the person behind your eyes. Your presence and qualities

enhance my life and I am grateful to you all. -

>

April 6, 2007

Think about it. We are all in different places in our spiritual

evolution and yet in the perfect place to help others. Some people

are helped by the example of a " master " and others are inspired

by " newbies " . We all have something to contribute already, no matter

how " new " we are at this. Isn't it great?