Guest guest Report post Posted December 12, 2006 Love the grid information and images.. Once in meditation and a number of times since I saw myself in "space" floating in a golden grid sort of like a bird cage. I began to disappear and then lost my body totally and then even my sense of beingness and was aware of the vastness all around and below me and was afraid. Eventually the grid dissolved too and I was left floating in dark vastness and the fear went away eventually.. Exciting and terrifying. And also use smaller and smaller grid type things to clean stuff out of others or my own body. The grid is usually golden and sweeps from the head down through the body and past the feet trapping whatever is not useful as it goes and then I vaporize the stuff caught and make it into violet smoke and it wisps away. And do it again with a smaller grid until it feels complete. And, yes, it IS interesting how we all see similar things! Sherri --The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein -------------- Original message -------------- Elektra Fire <elektra.fire I never used to have this experience though, and now Ido, so maybe the K just makes you more sensitive tothings and helps you notice things that before weren'tobvious.I saw a couple of flashes also. (may have been aneighbour putting a light on however in the next doorflat but I only saw it on one day in particular andthen never again.It's weird how we all see the same colour.On another day , just for a second I saw a grid appear, like a web, over everything, it looked digital. Thenit went, just a split second.Love Elektra x x x--- richard O <eyeoneblack > wrote:> > Hi Brian. Your posts are always interesting. I did> a little googling> on phosphenes, didn't find much about "lights"> except as stimulated in> sightless people and as a sysmpton of neuritis in MD> sufferers, which> wasn't really satisf ying, but I did find a site (I> bet you saw it) that> talks about trance and phosphenes, written by an> artist (read "expert"):> > PHOSPHENES are bright lines and dots that appear> when you close your> eyes or sit in the dark. With sensory deprivation,> some drugs, fever,> or trance states, this phenomenon becomes more> pronounced and the> patterns (ENTOPTICS) increase in complexity and may> include flashes,> spirals, circles, or zigzags that move in concentric> circling,> horizontal streaking, vertical falling, or> scattering fragments. Motifs> may overlap and transform into one another. These> ink drawings are my> personal record of trance experiences.> > > > See? Now we're talkin' :-) This relates to what I> experience. Thank> you for sending me on this search!> > FYI the link -> &g t; http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html> <http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html>> > > > -richard O ó¿ò> > > > > --- In> ,> "a_seventh_son"> <a_seventh_son wrote:> >> > without being an expert here, I think it's safe to> say that these are> > actually phosphenes, a technical term for the> illusory spots that can> > appear in our vision due to a plentitude of> factors, including stress,> > high levels of nervous energy. applying light> amounts of pressure to> > the eyes (i.e. close the eyes and press LIGHTLY> with forefinger or> > thumb on the eyelid) also produces interesting> visuals. I'm not an> > expert but you'll find a lot of information is> available on these> > phenomena.> > on occasion I've seen entire rooms filled with> translucent luminous> > blue fields; gazing for a long period of time will> produce a similar> > effect in a more localized way. whether it's> eyestrain, tuning into a> > subtler reality or whatever, I can't say. these> vision effects are> > interesting to scientists mainly because the eye> can't distinguish> > between the visual 'artifact' and something that> is actually "out> > there" so the brain responds as if it's seeing> something "real". hope> > that someone finds this useful!> >> > -brian> >> > gt; > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 12, 2006 Yes, I experienced this grid-like vision. This past summer I was in a meditative state, and it became clear and the knowing began to materialize. Before me was this geometric design behind my eyelids that appeared to be inches from my face, yet the vastness of this place was endless. It almost look liked like a wall of snake skin, but white in color. This place was so incredibly bright and safe, it was all around me. I felt like jumping completely into it and scream 'glory'. I absolutely loved it. A another vision materialized within it, and I believe it was some sort of ancient wheel (compass like) with an unknown language behind it. I made my 'self' fly through it and the whole vision disapated. blessings, lisa ---- kaliese wrote: > Love the grid information and images.. Once in meditation and a number of times since I saw myself in " space " floating in a golden grid sort of like a bird cage. I began to disappear and then lost my body totally and then even my sense of beingness and was aware of the vastness all around and below me and was afraid. Eventually the grid dissolved too and I was left floating in dark vastness and the fear went away eventually.. Exciting and terrifying. And also use smaller and smaller grid type things to clean stuff out of others or my own body. The grid is usually golden and sweeps from the head down through the body and past the feet trapping whatever is not useful as it goes and then I vaporize the stuff caught and make it into violet smoke and it wisps away. And do it again with a smaller grid until it feels complete. > > And, yes, it IS interesting how we all see similar things! > > Sherri > > > > -- > The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein > > -------------- Original message -------------- > Elektra Fire <elektra.fire > I never used to have this experience though, and now I > do, so maybe the K just makes you more sensitive to > things and helps you notice things that before weren't > obvious. > I saw a couple of flashes also. (may have been a > neighbour putting a light on however in the next door > flat but I only saw it on one day in particular and > then never again. > It's weird how we all see the same colour. > On another day , just for a second I saw a grid appear > , like a web, over everything, it looked digital. Then > it went, just a split second. > > Love Elektra x x x > > --- richard O <eyeoneblack wrote: > > > > > Hi Brian. Your posts are always interesting. I did > > a little googling > > on phosphenes, didn't find much about " lights " > > except as stimulated in > > sightless people and as a sysmpton of neuritis in MD > > sufferers, which > > wasn't really satisfying, but I did find a site (I > > bet you saw it) that > > talks about trance and phosphenes, written by an > > artist (read " expert " ): > > > > PHOSPHENES are bright lines and dots that appear > > when you close your > > eyes or sit in the dark. With sensory deprivation, > > some drugs, fever, > > or trance states, this phenomenon becomes more > > pronounced and the > > patterns (ENTOPTICS) increase in complexity and may > > include flashes, > > spirals, circles, or zigzags that move in concentric > > circling, > > horizontal streaking, vertical falling, or > > scattering fragments. Motifs > > may overlap and transform into one another. These > > ink drawings are my > > personal record of trance experiences. > > > > > > > > See? Now we're talkin' :-) This relates to what I > > experience. Thank > > you for sending me on this search! > > > > FYI the link - > > > > http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html > > <http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html> > > > > > > > > -richard O ó¿ò > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , > > " a_seventh_son " > > <a_seventh_son wrote: > > > > > > without being an expert here, I think it's safe to > > say that these are > > > actually phosphenes, a technical term for the > > illusory spots that can > > > appear in our vision due to a plentitude of > > factors, including stress, > > > high levels of nervous energy. applying light > > amounts of pressure to > > > the eyes (i.e. close the eyes and press LIGHTLY > > with forefinger or > > > thumb on the eyelid) also produces interesting > > visuals. I'm not an > > > expert but you'll find a lot of information is > > available on these > > > phenomena. > > > on occasion I've seen entire rooms filled with > > translucent luminous > > > blue fields; gazing for a long period of time will > > produce a similar > > > effect in a more localized way. whether it's > > eyestrain, tuning into a > > > subtler reality or whatever, I can't say. these > > vision effects are > > > interesting to scientists mainly because the eye > > can't distinguish > > > between the visual 'artifact' and something that > > is actually " out > > > there " so the brain responds as if it's seeing > > something " real " . hope > > > that someone finds this useful! > > > > > > -brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
