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Dear and Group,

Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

You are all wonderful.

Oh yes!

Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is in

the middle of my field of vision.

It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

Anyone have a similar experience?

Love to all,

Blessings to all,

OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

Life to all,

Energy to all,

Empowerment to all,

shining love to all,

clear thought to all,

clear perception to all,

cosmic consciousness to all.

Woo!

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for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

 

, " James "

<milliondegrees wrote:

>

> Dear and Group,

> Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> You are all wonderful.

> Oh yes!

> Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is in

> the middle of my field of vision.

> It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> Anyone have a similar experience?

> Love to all,

> Blessings to all,

> OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> Life to all,

> Energy to all,

> Empowerment to all,

> shining love to all,

> clear thought to all,

> clear perception to all,

> cosmic consciousness to all.

> Woo!

>

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I get a round flash of blue light usually in the lower right or left of my

field of vision, usually only once when I am thinking of something (like a

cosmic " YES " ) or receiving information and then it is like underlining

something.

 

I totally pay attention, and believe what I get is important to me, and am

grateful for the info.

 

Sherri

 

--

The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein

 

-------------- Original message --------------

" bondzai " <bondzai

for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

 

, " James "

<milliondegrees wrote:

>

> Dear and Group,

> Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> You are all wonderful.

> Oh yes!

> Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is in

> the middle of my field of vision.

> It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> Anyone have a similar experience?

> Love to all,

> Blessings to all,

> OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> Life to all,

> Energy to all,

> Empowerment to all,

> shining love to all,

> clear thought to all,

> clear perception to all,

> cosmic consciousness to all.

> Woo!

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello James,

Many people will see various things in their field of

vision inside an awakening. Some see what can be described as the " Eye

of Horus " floating a few feet away. Some people see disembodied blue

eyes, thousands of them. Others have seen a dancing blue girl or a

dancing blue man, while others see nothing. As I look at you I see

this more as an aspect of yourself viewing yourself with the

Kundalini. An action of mindfullness or an exogenous action of the

endogenous individual. Similar to shiva k's dream of the

electrocution, but without the prophetic implications. - my take on

it - blessings James - chrism

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Talking to the cosmos eh?

Cool, I sometimes get that when I am right about something Ill feel

a surge in ajna chakra, or when I correctly perceive something

Blessings

 

, kaliese

wrote:

>

> I get a round flash of blue light usually in the lower right or

left of my field of vision, usually only once when I am thinking of

something (like a cosmic " YES " ) or receiving information and then it

is like underlining something.

>

> I totally pay attention, and believe what I get is important to

me, and am grateful for the info.

>

> Sherri

>

> --

> The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-

Albert Einstein

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> " bondzai " <bondzai

> for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

>

> , " James "

> <milliondegrees@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear and Group,

> > Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> > You are all wonderful.

> > Oh yes!

> > Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is

in

> > the middle of my field of vision.

> > It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> > And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> > It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> > Anyone have a similar experience?

> > Love to all,

> > Blessings to all,

> > OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> > Life to all,

> > Energy to all,

> > Empowerment to all,

> > shining love to all,

> > clear thought to all,

> > clear perception to all,

> > cosmic consciousness to all.

> > Woo!

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks for your reply Chrism,

Yes I think I am quite detatched about the whole thing, and I do

observe it in a detatched manner. To be honest, it all feels very

natural to me, to have energy coursing through my body. Apart from

being hospitalised initially the K and me have got on really well, I

havent had any horrible experiences really.

Have a joyful Sunday... Blessings and gratitude. James

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello James,

> Many people will see various things in their field of

> vision inside an awakening. Some see what can be described as

the " Eye

> of Horus " floating a few feet away. Some people see disembodied blue

> eyes, thousands of them. Others have seen a dancing blue girl or a

> dancing blue man, while others see nothing. As I look at you I see

> this more as an aspect of yourself viewing yourself with the

> Kundalini. An action of mindfullness or an exogenous action of the

> endogenous individual. Similar to shiva k's dream of the

> electrocution, but without the prophetic implications. - my take on

> it - blessings James - chrism

>

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I may have seen something similar and if I did I don't know what it

is either, but it was like a thousand rays of multi-colored light

emanating from a center point, I guess it is a vision of chakra???

Was there a sound associated with it; bells, horns, ringing etc?

 

:-) richard O

 

 

, " James "

<milliondegrees wrote:

>

> Dear and Group,

> Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> You are all wonderful.

> Oh yes!

> Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is in

> the middle of my field of vision.

> It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> Anyone have a similar experience?

> Love to all,

> Blessings to all,

> OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> Life to all,

> Energy to all,

> Empowerment to all,

> shining love to all,

> clear thought to all,

> clear perception to all,

> cosmic consciousness to all.

> Woo!

>

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Well, I should have read forward to Chris's reply. What I see does

not resemble and 'eye' and no doubt has nothing to do with an

awakening - just beginner stuff I guess. It's hard to get up to

speed with a group as brilliant as this one. Oh well, please bear

with me:-)

 

-richard 0

 

 

, " richard O "

<eyeoneblack wrote:

>

> I may have seen something similar and if I did I don't know what

it

> is either, but it was like a thousand rays of multi-colored light

> emanating from a center point, I guess it is a vision of chakra???

> Was there a sound associated with it; bells, horns, ringing etc?

>

> :-) richard O

>

>

> , " James "

> <milliondegrees@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear and Group,

> > Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> > You are all wonderful.

> > Oh yes!

> > Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is

in

> > the middle of my field of vision.

> > It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> > And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> > It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> > Anyone have a similar experience?

> > Love to all,

> > Blessings to all,

> > OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> > Life to all,

> > Energy to all,

> > Empowerment to all,

> > shining love to all,

> > clear thought to all,

> > clear perception to all,

> > cosmic consciousness to all.

> > Woo!

> >

>

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Just to let you know that if I had told anyone what I was experiencing when I

had my first, wild and scary K (20 some years ago) experience, I am totally sure

I would have been hospitalized too. I stayed home and was terrified, saw and

spoke to no one (did not know what else to do) which is o the only reason I was

not.

 

And, I would not exchange this experience for anything on earth.

 

Welcome,

 

Sherri

 

PS-I work now and worked then in the mental health field.

--

The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein

 

-------------- Original message --------------

" James " <milliondegrees

Thanks for your reply Chrism,

Yes I think I am quite detatched about the whole thing, and I do

observe it in a detatched manner. To be honest, it all feels very

natural to me, to have energy coursing through my body. Apart from

being hospitalised initially the K and me have got on really well, I

havent had any horrible experiences really.

Have a joyful Sunday... Blessings and gratitude. James

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello James,

> Many people will see various things in their field of

> vision inside an awakening. Some see what can be described as

the " Eye

> of Horus " floating a few feet away. Some people see disembodied blue

> eyes, thousands of them. Others have seen a dancing blue girl or a

> dancing blue man, while others see nothing. As I look at you I see

> this more as an aspect of yourself viewing yourself with the

> Kundalini. An action of mindfullness or an exogenous action of the

> endogenous individual. Similar to shiva k's dream of the

> electrocution, but without the prophetic implications. - my take on

> it - blessings James - chrism

>

 

 

 

 

 

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I am happy to hear this, I have seen as of late a flash of blue/purple. Mostly

in the darkness of my room at night. It comes on both sides of view. I need to

look up these color tones and their meanings. Friday night was a busy orb night.

I saw constant flashes of white, gold, red and this bluish/purple. I was quite

entertained :)

lisa

 

 

---- kaliese wrote:

> I get a round flash of blue light usually in the lower right or left of my

field of vision, usually only once when I am thinking of something (like a

cosmic " YES " ) or receiving information and then it is like underlining

something.

>

> I totally pay attention, and believe what I get is important to me, and am

grateful for the info.

>

> Sherri

>

> --

> The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert

Einstein

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> " bondzai " <bondzai

> for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

>

> , " James "

> <milliondegrees wrote:

> >

> > Dear and Group,

> > Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> > You are all wonderful.

> > Oh yes!

> > Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is in

> > the middle of my field of vision.

> > It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> > And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> > It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> > Anyone have a similar experience?

> > Love to all,

> > Blessings to all,

> > OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> > Life to all,

> > Energy to all,

> > Empowerment to all,

> > shining love to all,

> > clear thought to all,

> > clear perception to all,

> > cosmic consciousness to all.

> > Woo!

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Well, according to my 'sources' the blue comes from the throat or

intellect chakra and the purple from either the third eye or top of

head (depending on the intensity of it - purple or indigo). I get

the blue allways and if I stay with it I get purple/indigo. Getting

it in both eyes is significant as it indicates you're seeing it

through the third eye.

Just my experience.

 

-richard O

 

 

,

<pleiades69 wrote:

>

> I am happy to hear this, I have seen as of late a flash of

blue/purple. Mostly in the darkness of my room at night. It comes on

both sides of view. I need to look up these color tones and their

meanings. Friday night was a busy orb night. I saw constant flashes

of white, gold, red and this bluish/purple. I was quite

entertained :)

> lisa

>

>

> ---- kaliese wrote:

> > I get a round flash of blue light usually in the lower right or

left of my field of vision, usually only once when I am thinking of

something (like a cosmic " YES " ) or receiving information and then it

is like underlining something.

> >

> > I totally pay attention, and believe what I get is important to

me, and am grateful for the info.

> >

> > Sherri

> >

> > --

> > The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-

Albert Einstein

> >

> > -------------- Original message --------------

> > " bondzai " <bondzai

> > for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

> >

> > , " James "

> > <milliondegrees@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear and Group,

> > > Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> > > You are all wonderful.

> > > Oh yes!

> > > Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing

is in

> > > the middle of my field of vision.

> > > It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> > > And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> > > It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> > > Anyone have a similar experience?

> > > Love to all,

> > > Blessings to all,

> > > OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> > > Life to all,

> > > Energy to all,

> > > Empowerment to all,

> > > shining love to all,

> > > clear thought to all,

> > > clear perception to all,

> > > cosmic consciousness to all.

> > > Woo!

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you RIchard, this helps explain allot.

lisa

 

---- richard O <eyeoneblack wrote:

> Well, according to my 'sources' the blue comes from the throat or

> intellect chakra and the purple from either the third eye or top of

> head (depending on the intensity of it - purple or indigo). I get

> the blue allways and if I stay with it I get purple/indigo. Getting

> it in both eyes is significant as it indicates you're seeing it

> through the third eye.

> Just my experience.

>

> -richard O

>

>

> ,

> <pleiades69 wrote:

> >

> > I am happy to hear this, I have seen as of late a flash of

> blue/purple. Mostly in the darkness of my room at night. It comes on

> both sides of view. I need to look up these color tones and their

> meanings. Friday night was a busy orb night. I saw constant flashes

> of white, gold, red and this bluish/purple. I was quite

> entertained :)

> > lisa

> >

> >

> > ---- kaliese wrote:

> > > I get a round flash of blue light usually in the lower right or

> left of my field of vision, usually only once when I am thinking of

> something (like a cosmic " YES " ) or receiving information and then it

> is like underlining something.

> > >

> > > I totally pay attention, and believe what I get is important to

> me, and am grateful for the info.

> > >

> > > Sherri

> > >

> > > --

> > > The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-

> Albert Einstein

> > >

> > > -------------- Original message --------------

> > > " bondzai " <bondzai

> > > for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

> > >

> > > , " James "

> > > <milliondegrees@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear and Group,

> > > > Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> > > > You are all wonderful.

> > > > Oh yes!

> > > > Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing

> is in

> > > > the middle of my field of vision.

> > > > It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> > > > And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> > > > It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> > > > Anyone have a similar experience?

> > > > Love to all,

> > > > Blessings to all,

> > > > OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> > > > Life to all,

> > > > Energy to all,

> > > > Empowerment to all,

> > > > shining love to all,

> > > > clear thought to all,

> > > > clear perception to all,

> > > > cosmic consciousness to all.

> > > > Woo!

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I too have been seeing this bluish purple light.

In small orb like shapes. I wasn't sure if it was just

a trick of the light or a k thingy.

love E x x x

 

--- pleiades69 wrote:

 

> I am happy to hear this, I have seen as of late a

> flash of blue/purple. Mostly in the darkness of my

> room at night. It comes on both sides of view. I

> need to look up these color tones and their

> meanings. Friday night was a busy orb night. I saw

> constant flashes of white, gold, red and this

> bluish/purple. I was quite entertained :)

> lisa

 

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Thanks Sherri,

I wonder if you know of any avenues I might explore in communicating

my experience to mental health professionals... I had a session with

a counsellor this term, cos I had a lost of emotion stuck from the

bullshit I had to go through with my family and psychiatrists, and he

said it had been very inspiring talking to me. He thinks psychology

is becoming open to buuddhism etc and that it is the future of the

field. I want to help with my experience... But first I want to fully

develop my K... Its getting good... Just a bit further to go! So you

have been active for 20 years? Wow!! What is your experience like

these days?

Blessings and lots of love James

 

, kaliese

wrote:

>

> Just to let you know that if I had told anyone what I was

experiencing when I had my first, wild and scary K (20 some years

ago) experience, I am totally sure I would have been hospitalized

too. I stayed home and was terrified, saw and spoke to no one (did

not know what else to do) which is o the only reason I was not.

>

> And, I would not exchange this experience for anything on earth.

>

> Welcome,

>

> Sherri

>

> PS-I work now and worked then in the mental health field.

> --

> The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-

Albert Einstein

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> " James " <milliondegrees

> Thanks for your reply Chrism,

> Yes I think I am quite detatched about the whole thing, and I do

> observe it in a detatched manner. To be honest, it all feels very

> natural to me, to have energy coursing through my body. Apart from

> being hospitalised initially the K and me have got on really well,

I

> havent had any horrible experiences really.

> Have a joyful Sunday... Blessings and gratitude. James

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello James,

> > Many people will see various things in their field of

> > vision inside an awakening. Some see what can be described as

> the " Eye

> > of Horus " floating a few feet away. Some people see disembodied

blue

> > eyes, thousands of them. Others have seen a dancing blue girl or

a

> > dancing blue man, while others see nothing. As I look at you I

see

> > this more as an aspect of yourself viewing yourself with the

> > Kundalini. An action of mindfullness or an exogenous action of

the

> > endogenous individual. Similar to shiva k's dream of the

> > electrocution, but without the prophetic implications. - my take

on

> > it - blessings James - chrism

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you Sherri for posting this! I have seen something like a small

bluish or purplish orb at random places in my field of vision for more

than a year now, but only recently (in the last month) have I been

experiencing just what you describe. I see a blue light/orb only in

the lower leftmost corner of my left eye at seemingly random times,

and I haven't been able to discern what it means or why/when it

occurs. I thought perhaps it indicated the presence of a guide?

Anyway, reading your post was very informative! I'll pay much more

attention to exactly what I'm thinking from now on when I see it.

Thanks again!

 

Love & Light,

Jen

 

, kaliese wrote:

>

> I get a round flash of blue light usually in the lower right or

left of my field of vision, usually only once when I am thinking of

something (like a cosmic " YES " ) or receiving information and then it

is like underlining something.

>

> I totally pay attention, and believe what I get is important to me,

and am grateful for the info.

>

> Sherri

>

> --

> The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than

rule-Albert Einstein

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> " bondzai " <bondzai

> for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

>

> , " James "

> <milliondegrees@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear and Group,

> > Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> > You are all wonderful.

> > Oh yes!

> > Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is in

> > the middle of my field of vision.

> > It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> > And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> > It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> > Anyone have a similar experience?

> > Love to all,

> > Blessings to all,

> > OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> > Life to all,

> > Energy to all,

> > Empowerment to all,

> > shining love to all,

> > clear thought to all,

> > clear perception to all,

> > cosmic consciousness to all.

> > Woo!

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi. I asked an eye surgeon about the lights I see and there is a good

chance his response may be of interest to you.

 

He explained that when the eyes are closed the photo-receptors in our

retina cycle on and off, in effect - recharge. This produces small

lights and he commented I must be very sensitive to notice them. Well, I

don't know but I try to be aware of everything.

 

While he limited this activity to closed eyes, I think some people

experience it with their eyes open. I do; little blue lights in my

peripheral vision. I think Van Gogh was into it big time :0)

 

-richard O

 

 

, " Jen "

<jenls505 wrote:

>

> Thank you Sherri for posting this! I have seen something like a small

> bluish or purplish orb at random places in my field of vision for more

> than a year now, but only recently (in the last month) have I been

> experiencing just what you describe. I see a blue light/orb only in

> the lower leftmost corner of my left eye at seemingly random times,

> and I haven't been able to discern what it means or why/when it

> occurs. I thought perhaps it indicated the presence of a guide?

> Anyway, reading your post was very informative! I'll pay much more

> attention to exactly what I'm thinking from now on when I see it.

> Thanks again!

>

> Love & Light,

> Jen

>

> , kaliese@ wrote:

> >

> > I get a round flash of blue light usually in the lower right or

> left of my field of vision, usually only once when I am thinking of

> something (like a cosmic " YES " ) or receiving information and then it

> is like underlining something.

> >

> > I totally pay attention, and believe what I get is important to me,

> and am grateful for the info.

> >

> > Sherri

> >

> > --

> > The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than

> rule-Albert Einstein

> >

> > -------------- Original message --------------

> > " bondzai " bondzai@

> > for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

> >

> > , " James "

> > <milliondegrees@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear and Group,

> > > Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> > > You are all wonderful.

> > > Oh yes!

> > > Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is in

> > > the middle of my field of vision.

> > > It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> > > And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> > > It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> > > Anyone have a similar experience?

> > > Love to all,

> > > Blessings to all,

> > > OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> > > Life to all,

> > > Energy to all,

> > > Empowerment to all,

> > > shining love to all,

> > > clear thought to all,

> > > clear perception to all,

> > > cosmic consciousness to all.

> > > Woo!

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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without being an expert here, I think it's safe to say that these are

actually phosphenes, a technical term for the illusory spots that can

appear in our vision due to a plentitude of factors, including stress,

high levels of nervous energy. applying light amounts of pressure to

the eyes (i.e. close the eyes and press LIGHTLY with forefinger or

thumb on the eyelid) also produces interesting visuals. I'm not an

expert but you'll find a lot of information is available on these

phenomena.

on occasion I've seen entire rooms filled with translucent luminous

blue fields; gazing for a long period of time will produce a similar

effect in a more localized way. whether it's eyestrain, tuning into a

subtler reality or whatever, I can't say. these vision effects are

interesting to scientists mainly because the eye can't distinguish

between the visual 'artifact' and something that is actually " out

there " so the brain responds as if it's seeing something " real " . hope

that someone finds this useful!

 

-brian

 

, " richard O "

<eyeoneblack wrote:

>

>

> Hi. I asked an eye surgeon about the lights I see and there is a good

> chance his response may be of interest to you.

>

> He explained that when the eyes are closed the photo-receptors in our

> retina cycle on and off, in effect - recharge. This produces small

> lights and he commented I must be very sensitive to notice them. Well, I

> don't know but I try to be aware of everything.

>

> While he limited this activity to closed eyes, I think some people

> experience it with their eyes open. I do; little blue lights in my

> peripheral vision. I think Van Gogh was into it big time :0)

>

> -richard O

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Hi Brian. Your posts are always interesting. I did a little googling

on phosphenes, didn't find much about " lights " except as stimulated in

sightless people and as a sysmpton of neuritis in MD sufferers, which

wasn't really satisfying, but I did find a site (I bet you saw it) that

talks about trance and phosphenes, written by an artist (read " expert " ):

 

PHOSPHENES are bright lines and dots that appear when you close your

eyes or sit in the dark. With sensory deprivation, some drugs, fever,

or trance states, this phenomenon becomes more pronounced and the

patterns (ENTOPTICS) increase in complexity and may include flashes,

spirals, circles, or zigzags that move in concentric circling,

horizontal streaking, vertical falling, or scattering fragments. Motifs

may overlap and transform into one another. These ink drawings are my

personal record of trance experiences.

 

 

 

See? Now we're talkin' :-) This relates to what I experience. Thank

you for sending me on this search!

 

FYI the link -

 

http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html

<http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html>

 

 

 

-richard O ó¿ò

 

 

 

 

, " a_seventh_son "

<a_seventh_son wrote:

>

> without being an expert here, I think it's safe to say that these are

> actually phosphenes, a technical term for the illusory spots that can

> appear in our vision due to a plentitude of factors, including stress,

> high levels of nervous energy. applying light amounts of pressure to

> the eyes (i.e. close the eyes and press LIGHTLY with forefinger or

> thumb on the eyelid) also produces interesting visuals. I'm not an

> expert but you'll find a lot of information is available on these

> phenomena.

> on occasion I've seen entire rooms filled with translucent luminous

> blue fields; gazing for a long period of time will produce a similar

> effect in a more localized way. whether it's eyestrain, tuning into a

> subtler reality or whatever, I can't say. these vision effects are

> interesting to scientists mainly because the eye can't distinguish

> between the visual 'artifact' and something that is actually " out

> there " so the brain responds as if it's seeing something " real " . hope

> that someone finds this useful!

>

> -brian

>

 

 

 

 

 

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> Hi Brian. Your posts are always interesting.

thanks. if they provoke thought in receptive people then I've

accomplished my purpose in passing them along!

 

> but I did find a site (I bet you saw it) that

> talks about trance and phosphenes, written by an artist (read

> " expert "

well, experiencer I'll give, but not expert.

 

> PHOSPHENES are bright lines and dots that appear when you close your

> eyes or sit in the dark.

there are speculations that the internal control of phosphenes (the

'internal light' if you think about it) is a necessary step to the

acquisition of inner sight or seeing the " mind's eye " , and this is

what exercises like directionless gazing, imagistic visualization, and

concentration on external objects (a mandala for instance), are aimed

at developing/harnessing. also various hallucinatory phenomena of

geometric patterns etc may in fact be linked to this process.

 

regards

-brian

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HI,

 

I am finding others experiences and ideas very interesting too. After these

spots first appeared I started looking in my few (at that time ) K books and

they were mentioned. I will see if I can find what they said and post.

 

I see other things too. I often see wonderful geometric patterns in dazzling

colors, have dreamed of these gems in colors that are similar but far surpass

the ones I have seen on the earth plane, used to work with energy with terminal

aids patients in Texas and we both would see crystal palaces of some

sort....again beautiful beyond belief...., " see " in my minds eye the jewelery I

create before I start to work on it, like it is just set out for me to do by

something/one else, and make many decisions based on what I feel as well as see,

sort of asking if this is the direction I should go or if I should take a

certain kid into my house, etc.

 

Seems to work pretty well without major pitfalls so far, lol, but it was scary

and an act of faith each time when I begin to try it. I think the first time was

in college and I had papers to write. Sometimes I enjoyed writing them and

sometimes not so it occurred to me to just write when I wanted to knowing the

due date and see what happened. Well it worked just fine and the quality of my

college life improved as I just did what I wanted and everything was fine.

 

I have made major life, illogical decisions this way too and the results have

ended up very worth while for my spiritual development. People say I may be the

most surrendered person they know! And I have more responsibilities than most

so the stakes are pretty high.

 

Sherri

 

--

The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-Albert Einstein

 

-------------- Original message --------------

" Jen " <jenls505

Thank you Sherri for posting this! I have seen something like a small

bluish or purplish orb at random places in my field of vision for more

than a year now, but only recently (in the last month) have I been

experiencing just what you describe. I see a blue light/orb only in

the lower leftmost corner of my left eye at seemingly random times,

and I haven't been able to discern what it means or why/when it

occurs. I thought perhaps it indicated the presence of a guide?

Anyway, reading your post was very informative! I'll pay much more

attention to exactly what I'm thinking from now on when I see it.

Thanks again!

 

Love & Light,

Jen

 

, kaliese wrote:

>

> I get a round flash of blue light usually in the lower right or

left of my field of vision, usually only once when I am thinking of

something (like a cosmic " YES " ) or receiving information and then it

is like underlining something.

>

> I totally pay attention, and believe what I get is important to me,

and am grateful for the info.

>

> Sherri

>

> --

> The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than

rule-Albert Einstein

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> " bondzai " <bondzai

> for me when my mind is quiet I get a pulsing blue light.

>

> , " James "

> <milliondegrees@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear and Group,

> > Hola! And hello to all thee highly evolved souls.

> > You are all wonderful.

> > Oh yes!

> > Anyway, I was just wondering if anybody knows what the thing is in

> > the middle of my field of vision.

> > It is shaped like the iris of an eye,

> > And it is all multidimensionaly and funky.

> > It comes when my energy is clear and some is in the head.

> > Anyone have a similar experience?

> > Love to all,

> > Blessings to all,

> > OK ok! Lets do the chakras:

> > Life to all,

> > Energy to all,

> > Empowerment to all,

> > shining love to all,

> > clear thought to all,

> > clear perception to all,

> > cosmic consciousness to all.

> > Woo!

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

 

I live in California, close to San Francisco and there are mental health people

here who are aware of the K symptoms, sometimes work with energy and can

sometimes work with people in a way that is helpful. But in other areas I don't

know what to advise. Many of the symptoms I experienced (and still do when

things move and heat up) are not things I would want to talk to most mental

health people about as they are pretty similar to " symptoms " of labels I do not

wish to have. I have always chosen silence with most of the community other

than the people I know have an interest and some experience with the K

themselves. I do not feel I could explain something so out of the ordinary and

bizarre to most (I remember my horror and disbelief when I finally figured out

what might be happening to me....never even heard the word Kundalini before I

found myself in the midst of a total bedlam of symptoms) and have found some

people I have talked too wondering why anyone would want this, i

f it even actually existed. So I am pretty quiet about it to most. But that is

just me and how I choose to handle it. People do notice things (like health

professionals who wondered why I was so calm and centered and sort of glowing

during radiation treatment for cancer) however and I will gently tell them a

little and watch their reaction and go further if it seems the thing to do or

throw some information into them with my eyes, if both of our higher selves

agree. Many did these things for me along they way and I did not recognize it

then, but do now. So thats my take....

 

Sherri

 

--

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-------------- Original message --------------

" James " <milliondegrees

Thanks Sherri,

I wonder if you know of any avenues I might explore in communicating

my experience to mental health professionals... I had a session with

a counsellor this term, cos I had a lost of emotion stuck from the

bullshit I had to go through with my family and psychiatrists, and he

said it had been very inspiring talking to me. He thinks psychology

is becoming open to buuddhism etc and that it is the future of the

field. I want to help with my experience... But first I want to fully

develop my K... Its getting good... Just a bit further to go! So you

have been active for 20 years? Wow!! What is your experience like

these days?

Blessings and lots of love James

 

, kaliese

wrote:

>

> Just to let you know that if I had told anyone what I was

experiencing when I had my first, wild and scary K (20 some years

ago) experience, I am totally sure I would have been hospitalized

too. I stayed home and was terrified, saw and spoke to no one (did

not know what else to do) which is o the only reason I was not.

>

> And, I would not exchange this experience for anything on earth.

>

> Welcome,

>

> Sherri

>

> PS-I work now and worked then in the mental health field.

> --

> The high destiny of the individual is to serve rather than rule-

Albert Einstein

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> " James " <milliondegrees

> Thanks for your reply Chrism,

> Yes I think I am quite detatched about the whole thing, and I do

> observe it in a detatched manner. To be honest, it all feels very

> natural to me, to have energy coursing through my body. Apart from

> being hospitalised initially the K and me have got on really well,

I

> havent had any horrible experiences really.

> Have a joyful Sunday... Blessings and gratitude. James

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello James,

> > Many people will see various things in their field of

> > vision inside an awakening. Some see what can be described as

> the " Eye

> > of Horus " floating a few feet away. Some people see disembodied

blue

> > eyes, thousands of them. Others have seen a dancing blue girl or

a

> > dancing blue man, while others see nothing. As I look at you I

see

> > this more as an aspect of yourself viewing yourself with the

> > Kundalini. An action of mindfullness or an exogenous action of

the

> > endogenous individual. Similar to shiva k's dream of the

> > electrocution, but without the prophetic implications. - my take

on

> > it - blessings James - chrism

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I never used to have this experience though, and now I

do, so maybe the K just makes you more sensitive to

things and helps you notice things that before weren't

obvious.

I saw a couple of flashes also. (may have been a

neighbour putting a light on however in the next door

flat but I only saw it on one day in particular and

then never again.

It's weird how we all see the same colour.

On another day , just for a second I saw a grid appear

, like a web, over everything, it looked digital. Then

it went, just a split second.

 

Love Elektra x x x

 

 

--- richard O <eyeoneblack wrote:

 

>

> Hi Brian. Your posts are always interesting. I did

> a little googling

> on phosphenes, didn't find much about " lights "

> except as stimulated in

> sightless people and as a sysmpton of neuritis in MD

> sufferers, which

> wasn't really satisfying, but I did find a site (I

> bet you saw it) that

> talks about trance and phosphenes, written by an

> artist (read " expert " ):

>

> PHOSPHENES are bright lines and dots that appear

> when you close your

> eyes or sit in the dark. With sensory deprivation,

> some drugs, fever,

> or trance states, this phenomenon becomes more

> pronounced and the

> patterns (ENTOPTICS) increase in complexity and may

> include flashes,

> spirals, circles, or zigzags that move in concentric

> circling,

> horizontal streaking, vertical falling, or

> scattering fragments. Motifs

> may overlap and transform into one another. These

> ink drawings are my

> personal record of trance experiences.

>

>

>

> See? Now we're talkin' :-) This relates to what I

> experience. Thank

> you for sending me on this search!

>

> FYI the link -

>

> http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html

> <http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html>

>

>

>

> -richard O ó¿ò

>

>

>

>

> --- In

> ,

> " a_seventh_son "

> <a_seventh_son wrote:

> >

> > without being an expert here, I think it's safe to

> say that these are

> > actually phosphenes, a technical term for the

> illusory spots that can

> > appear in our vision due to a plentitude of

> factors, including stress,

> > high levels of nervous energy. applying light

> amounts of pressure to

> > the eyes (i.e. close the eyes and press LIGHTLY

> with forefinger or

> > thumb on the eyelid) also produces interesting

> visuals. I'm not an

> > expert but you'll find a lot of information is

> available on these

> > phenomena.

> > on occasion I've seen entire rooms filled with

> translucent luminous

> > blue fields; gazing for a long period of time will

> produce a similar

> > effect in a more localized way. whether it's

> eyestrain, tuning into a

> > subtler reality or whatever, I can't say. these

> vision effects are

> > interesting to scientists mainly because the eye

> can't distinguish

> > between the visual 'artifact' and something that

> is actually " out

> > there " so the brain responds as if it's seeing

> something " real " . hope

> > that someone finds this useful!

> >

> > -brian

> >

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

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> I never used to have this experience though, and now I

> do, so maybe the K just makes you more sensitive to

> things and helps you notice things that before weren't

> obvious.

I can say the same. oftentimes color would seem much more vivid as

well, and I noticed also unconscious responses to eye contact and

proximity to people/animals/etc, responses that " weren't there "

before, a sensitivity of sorts, to a definite " something " but not a

visible something.

 

> I saw a couple of flashes also. (may have been a

> neighbour putting a light on however in the next door

> flat but I only saw it on one day in particular and

> then never again.

LOL - I also never discount the mundane explanations, it may be

not be as trendy/sexy/cool/ " enlightened " but I'll take the

explanations of physics and physiology when they fit. it's easy to

turn such experiences into " fish stories " :-) but this is reflective

of self-importance and science is pretty merciless against our

delusions!! :-D

 

> It's weird how we all see the same colour.

:-) technically we may not in fact see the same color, or at least

not distinguish as many hues, so much as to social

conventions! our perceptions are uniquely our own, though we have

perceptual mechanisms in common to a large degree, there really IS no

" unity of perception " at all except that shared understanding which we

create through words and language.

 

> On another day , just for a second I saw a grid appear

> , like a web, over everything, it looked digital.

shades of " The Matrix " :-) here we thought it was a movie, right?!

LOL, if you like a modern scientific take on this, there is research

to suggest that the geometric structuring is actually an inherent

feature of our perceptual mechanisms (i.e. vision, in short the eye,

optic nerve, and/or brain itself contains structures which it

self-observes in the act of perception) but we've learned to filter

these out.

 

-brian

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Yea! I know 'the grid. Like the artist at the link I posted, in a

trance I can hold the light and watch it do things and that's where

I noticed a grid or texture on top of it. I've been told the

chakras have a web over them. Hmmm.

 

-richard O

 

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

>

> I never used to have this experience though, and now I

> do, so maybe the K just makes you more sensitive to

> things and helps you notice things that before weren't

> obvious.

> I saw a couple of flashes also. (may have been a

> neighbour putting a light on however in the next door

> flat but I only saw it on one day in particular and

> then never again.

> It's weird how we all see the same colour.

> On another day , just for a second I saw a grid appear

> , like a web, over everything, it looked digital. Then

> it went, just a split second.

>

> Love Elektra x x x

>

>

> --- richard O <eyeoneblack wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi Brian. Your posts are always interesting. I did

> > a little googling

> > on phosphenes, didn't find much about " lights "

> > except as stimulated in

> > sightless people and as a sysmpton of neuritis in MD

> > sufferers, which

> > wasn't really satisfying, but I did find a site (I

> > bet you saw it) that

> > talks about trance and phosphenes, written by an

> > artist (read " expert " ):

> >

> > PHOSPHENES are bright lines and dots that appear

> > when you close your

> > eyes or sit in the dark. With sensory deprivation,

> > some drugs, fever,

> > or trance states, this phenomenon becomes more

> > pronounced and the

> > patterns (ENTOPTICS) increase in complexity and may

> > include flashes,

> > spirals, circles, or zigzags that move in concentric

> > circling,

> > horizontal streaking, vertical falling, or

> > scattering fragments. Motifs

> > may overlap and transform into one another. These

> > ink drawings are my

> > personal record of trance experiences.

> >

> >

> >

> > See? Now we're talkin' :-) This relates to what I

> > experience. Thank

> > you for sending me on this search!

> >

> > FYI the link -

> >

> > http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html

> > <http://www.mineralarts.com/artwork/phosphenes.html>

> >

> >

> >

> > -richard O ó¿ò

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In

> > ,

> > " a_seventh_son "

> > <a_seventh_son@> wrote:

> > >

> > > without being an expert here, I think it's safe to

> > say that these are

> > > actually phosphenes, a technical term for the

> > illusory spots that can

> > > appear in our vision due to a plentitude of

> > factors, including stress,

> > > high levels of nervous energy. applying light

> > amounts of pressure to

> > > the eyes (i.e. close the eyes and press LIGHTLY

> > with forefinger or

> > > thumb on the eyelid) also produces interesting

> > visuals. I'm not an

> > > expert but you'll find a lot of information is

> > available on these

> > > phenomena.

> > > on occasion I've seen entire rooms filled with

> > translucent luminous

> > > blue fields; gazing for a long period of time will

> > produce a similar

> > > effect in a more localized way. whether it's

> > eyestrain, tuning into a

> > > subtler reality or whatever, I can't say. these

> > vision effects are

> > > interesting to scientists mainly because the eye

> > can't distinguish

> > > between the visual 'artifact' and something that

> > is actually " out

> > > there " so the brain responds as if it's seeing

> > something " real " . hope

> > > that someone finds this useful!

> > >

> > > -brian

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yesterday, I saw a faint glow of this color, it was in blob form,

nothing in particular. It was a few feet in front of me in my focus and

I stared at it for as long as I could without blinking. I was happy to

experience this as I never can get a fix on any of the orbs/sparks I see.

Love and light to all :)

lisa

 

Elektra Fire wrote:

>

> I too have been seeing this bluish purple light.

> In small orb like shapes. I wasn't sure if it was just

> a trick of the light or a k thingy.

> love E x x x

>

> --- pleiades69 <pleiades69%40cox.net> wrote:

>

> > I am happy to hear this, I have seen as of late a

> > flash of blue/purple. Mostly in the darkness of my

> > room at night. It comes on both sides of view. I

> > need to look up these color tones and their

> > meanings. Friday night was a busy orb night. I saw

> > constant flashes of white, gold, red and this

> > bluish/purple. I was quite entertained :)

> > lisa

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends

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>

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