Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Posted March 17, 2006 Hey Ash, why dont you answer these quesyions, so we all can learn? --Manoshi , Ash <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > What about Ra and Ke and Mo antra? > Do you see any chance there? > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > I am sure you must have understood after the discussion why the > native is not married yet. Saturn causes delay (all the three houses > or house lords are aspected by Saturn in Navamsa). Jupiter though > shows some power to give marriage,it aspects house A, so only Mars > is the planet that remains to give marriage. Now during recent Mars > antra, the native was in his delay period, so could not get married. > So yo are right, he has to wait for his coming Mars antra to get > married. Let's hope for the best anyways. > > A special thanks to Ash for guiding me along to understand this. > > --Manoshi > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > There is a problem in today. ALl messages are coming in a > > random order. Anyways, pasting my reply again. > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > ok, as I understand from your query, you are saying that if in > > Navamsa Saturn is related to A,B,C then it can cause delay. Well, > > that I did not know. ok, point noted. > > > > next is about GURU. > > > > GURU can give event or not??? though it has 13 points..NO, it is > > aspecting house A, so according to laws it cannot, even if the time > > comes. SO what remains is only Mars. Now if you consider satrun > > delay, then Mars antra is over when delay is still there. so > > marriage could not happen. Now, no other planet is strong enough to > > givemarriage, so MArs will give next....hmmm...I think I now know > > why the native is unmarried. > > > > thanx > > Manoshi > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > Ju's delay is there and u are correct. I am asking about Shani? > > > > > > I am also asking u, can this Ju give marriage in its antra. If > it > > > can what is the reason? and if it cant what is the reason? > > > > > > I hope its clear now. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > What about Jupiter? Well, it's in saturn sign so of course > > cannot > > > > reduce delay but it's definitely causing delay. The person may > > not > > > > be having very strong leadership qualities but that's a > > different > > > > issue. In any case, I am not timing marriage in Jupiter antra > > but > > > > Mars antra. I dont know what you meant. clarify please. > > > > > > > > BTW, did you find the reason for native's unmarried status? > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > What about Jupiter, > > > > > Do you think Ju can furnish timing despite having 13 > points? > > > > > Can you give your opinion on this Jupiter i.e can it give > > > timing > > > > or not. If it can give what is the reason and if it can't > what > > is > > > > the reason? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > What about Shani's delay? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember the theory Krushna Ji had told once, for Taurus > > > > lagna, > > > > > if > > > > > > 1st and 7th hosue lords are in 2:12 then there can be even > > > > denial > > > > > of > > > > > > marriage. You must have seen that the Jupiter is the delay > > > > causing > > > > > > planet in this chart. Jupiter's delay should end when it > > > enters > > > > > > Pisces as it then aspects 7th lord(Mars), which is in > > January > > > > 99. > > > > > > Mars antra starts in 1999 March, so there are good chances > > > that > > > > he > > > > > > could have got married in Mars antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > May be Krushna ji can guide why this did not happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, what's your opinion? > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > > mishra > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala and list members, > > > > > > > Namaskar to all, > > > > > > > Here is the chart of a male native who was born on 30 > Jun > > > 1974 > > > > > > at 3;35 am .The place of birth is 23 N 22 and 85 E 21 > India. > > > > > > > This native is still unmarried and working in a private > > > > > company > > > > > > as a public relations manager. When I saw his chart I > found > > > the > > > > > > following combinations for marriage.The Asc is rising 21 > Ta > > > 26, > > > > Mo > > > > > > is at 23 Li 08 and Su is at 15 Ge 10. > > > > > > > Su and Ve is 33 deg 03 min apart < 43 deg. Lagna lord > and > > > 9th > > > > > > lord is in 2/12 position. Sat is in house A and aspecting > > > house > > > > C. > > > > > > In navamsa Sat is LoB and he is aspecting both the > > luminaries > > > as > > > > > > well as Venus. Jup is not in Libra and Ve too is not in > > > > Krittika.. > > > > > > Ve is 6th lord too and he is in Asc. Ju and Ve is in 4/10 > > > > > > combinations. Jup is with 7 bindus in Aq and Ve is with 5 > > > bindus > > > > > in > > > > > > Ta. Therefore 6th lord Ve is controlling Ju who is Loc for > > 7th > > > > > > house.There is no zero in the BAV. > > > > > > > Only Mar and Jup is having >12 points and other planets > > are > > > > > very > > > > > > weak with < 12 points.The native is running Mer- Mer at > > > > > present.Mer > > > > > > is having only 6 points for 7th house.Me is LoA and in > House > > > A , > > > > > > therefore his antara will not give marriage. Next antara > is > > of > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > who is SD to Ve and Ve is also weak and 6th lord. Ve is Nk > > for > > > > > > marriage. Being the karaka weak ,his SD Ketu also can't > give > > > > > > marriage.Like that following antaras of Sun and Moon also > > will > > > > not > > > > > > give marriage.Though the Sun is LoD but he got only 09 > > points > > > > for > > > > > > 7th house.I think Sun is incompetent to give marriage . > Moon > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > 12th from house B and he is also weak.Mars follows the Mo > > > antara > > > > > and > > > > > > he is a strong significator and LoE too , therefore Mars > can > > > > give > > > > > > the result of house B.Mars antara is through > > > > > > > 19 Mar 2014 and 17 Mar 2015. During this period native > > will > > > be > > > > > > 39 +. > > > > > > > Therefore I request all of you that " Is my calculation on > > the > > > > > > line " and thus can we say this the denial of marriage ? > > > Please > > > > > > intervene your experiences on this chart. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > > > > > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies > > all > > > > the > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Posted March 18, 2006 I have studied the chart and am asking u to give your opinion. This is an exercise in SD. Spoon feeding eh? lol Cheers !!! Ash Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: Hey Ash, why dont you answer these quesyions, so we all can learn? --Manoshi , Ash wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > What about Ra and Ke and Mo antra? > Do you see any chance there? > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > I am sure you must have understood after the discussion why the > native is not married yet. Saturn causes delay (all the three houses > or house lords are aspected by Saturn in Navamsa). Jupiter though > shows some power to give marriage,it aspects house A, so only Mars > is the planet that remains to give marriage. Now during recent Mars > antra, the native was in his delay period, so could not get married. > So yo are right, he has to wait for his coming Mars antra to get > married. Let's hope for the best anyways. > > A special thanks to Ash for guiding me along to understand this. > > --Manoshi > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > There is a problem in today. ALl messages are coming in a > > random order. Anyways, pasting my reply again. > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > ok, as I understand from your query, you are saying that if in > > Navamsa Saturn is related to A,B,C then it can cause delay. Well, > > that I did not know. ok, point noted. > > > > next is about GURU. > > > > GURU can give event or not??? though it has 13 points..NO, it is > > aspecting house A, so according to laws it cannot, even if the time > > comes. SO what remains is only Mars. Now if you consider satrun > > delay, then Mars antra is over when delay is still there. so > > marriage could not happen. Now, no other planet is strong enough to > > givemarriage, so MArs will give next....hmmm...I think I now know > > why the native is unmarried. > > > > thanx > > Manoshi > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > Ju's delay is there and u are correct. I am asking about Shani? > > > > > > I am also asking u, can this Ju give marriage in its antra. If > it > > > can what is the reason? and if it cant what is the reason? > > > > > > I hope its clear now. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > What about Jupiter? Well, it's in saturn sign so of course > > cannot > > > > reduce delay but it's definitely causing delay. The person may > > not > > > > be having very strong leadership qualities but that's a > > different > > > > issue. In any case, I am not timing marriage in Jupiter antra > > but > > > > Mars antra. I dont know what you meant. clarify please. > > > > > > > > BTW, did you find the reason for native's unmarried status? > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > What about Jupiter, > > > > > Do you think Ju can furnish timing despite having 13 > points? > > > > > Can you give your opinion on this Jupiter i.e can it give > > > timing > > > > or not. If it can give what is the reason and if it can't > what > > is > > > > the reason? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > What about Shani's delay? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember the theory Krushna Ji had told once, for Taurus > > > > lagna, > > > > > if > > > > > > 1st and 7th hosue lords are in 2:12 then there can be even > > > > denial > > > > > of > > > > > > marriage. You must have seen that the Jupiter is the delay > > > > causing > > > > > > planet in this chart. Jupiter's delay should end when it > > > enters > > > > > > Pisces as it then aspects 7th lord(Mars), which is in > > January > > > > 99. > > > > > > Mars antra starts in 1999 March, so there are good chances > > > that > > > > he > > > > > > could have got married in Mars antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > May be Krushna ji can guide why this did not happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, what's your opinion? > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > > mishra > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala and list members, > > > > > > > Namaskar to all, > > > > > > > Here is the chart of a male native who was born on 30 > Jun > > > 1974 > > > > > > at 3;35 am .The place of birth is 23 N 22 and 85 E 21 > India. > > > > > > > This native is still unmarried and working in a private > > > > > company > > > > > > as a public relations manager. When I saw his chart I > found > > > the > > > > > > following combinations for marriage.The Asc is rising 21 > Ta > > > 26, > > > > Mo > > > > > > is at 23 Li 08 and Su is at 15 Ge 10. > > > > > > > Su and Ve is 33 deg 03 min apart < 43 deg. Lagna lord > and > > > 9th > > > > > > lord is in 2/12 position. Sat is in house A and aspecting > > > house > > > > C. > > > > > > In navamsa Sat is LoB and he is aspecting both the > > luminaries > > > as > > > > > > well as Venus. Jup is not in Libra and Ve too is not in > > > > Krittika.. > > > > > > Ve is 6th lord too and he is in Asc. Ju and Ve is in 4/10 > > > > > > combinations. Jup is with 7 bindus in Aq and Ve is with 5 > > > bindus > > > > > in > > > > > > Ta. Therefore 6th lord Ve is controlling Ju who is Loc for > > 7th > > > > > > house.There is no zero in the BAV. > > > > > > > Only Mar and Jup is having >12 points and other planets > > are > > > > > very > > > > > > weak with < 12 points.The native is running Mer- Mer at > > > > > present.Mer > > > > > > is having only 6 points for 7th house.Me is LoA and in > House > > > A , > > > > > > therefore his antara will not give marriage. Next antara > is > > of > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > who is SD to Ve and Ve is also weak and 6th lord. Ve is Nk > > for > > > > > > marriage. Being the karaka weak ,his SD Ketu also can't > give > > > > > > marriage.Like that following antaras of Sun and Moon also > > will > > > > not > > > > > > give marriage.Though the Sun is LoD but he got only 09 > > points > > > > for > > > > > > 7th house.I think Sun is incompetent to give marriage . > Moon > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > 12th from house B and he is also weak.Mars follows the Mo > > > antara > > > > > and > > > > > > he is a strong significator and LoE too , therefore Mars > can > > > > give > > > > > > the result of house B.Mars antara is through > > > > > > > 19 Mar 2014 and 17 Mar 2015. During this period native > > will > > > be > > > > > > 39 +. > > > > > > > Therefore I request all of you that " Is my calculation on > > the > > > > > > line " and thus can we say this the denial of marriage ? > > > Please > > > > > > intervene your experiences on this chart. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > > > > > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies > > all > > > > the > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Posted March 18, 2006 well... rather asking the Master...I will reply when I get time to look into the chart again. --Manoshi <ashsam73 wrote: > > I have studied the chart and am asking u to give your opinion. > This is an exercise in SD. > Spoon feeding eh? lol > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Hey Ash, why dont you answer these quesyions, so we all can learn? > > --Manoshi > > > , Ash > wrote: > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > What about Ra and Ke and Mo antra? > > Do you see any chance there? > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > I am sure you must have understood after the discussion why the > > native is not married yet. Saturn causes delay (all the three > houses > > or house lords are aspected by Saturn in Navamsa). Jupiter though > > shows some power to give marriage,it aspects house A, so only Mars > > is the planet that remains to give marriage. Now during recent > Mars > > antra, the native was in his delay period, so could not get > married. > > So yo are right, he has to wait for his coming Mars antra to get > > married. Let's hope for the best anyways. > > > > A special thanks to Ash for guiding me along to understand this. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > There is a problem in today. ALl messages are coming in a > > > random order. Anyways, pasting my reply again. > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > ok, as I understand from your query, you are saying that if in > > > Navamsa Saturn is related to A,B,C then it can cause delay. Well, > > > that I did not know. ok, point noted. > > > > > > next is about GURU. > > > > > > GURU can give event or not??? though it has 13 points..NO, it is > > > aspecting house A, so according to laws it cannot, even if the > time > > > comes. SO what remains is only Mars. Now if you consider satrun > > > delay, then Mars antra is over when delay is still there. so > > > marriage could not happen. Now, no other planet is strong enough > to > > > givemarriage, so MArs will give next....hmmm...I think I now know > > > why the native is unmarried. > > > > > > thanx > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > Ju's delay is there and u are correct. I am asking about Shani? > > > > > > > > I am also asking u, can this Ju give marriage in its antra. If > > it > > > > can what is the reason? and if it cant what is the reason? > > > > > > > > I hope its clear now. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > What about Jupiter? Well, it's in saturn sign so of course > > > cannot > > > > > reduce delay but it's definitely causing delay. The person > may > > > not > > > > > be having very strong leadership qualities but that's a > > > different > > > > > issue. In any case, I am not timing marriage in Jupiter > antra > > > but > > > > > Mars antra. I dont know what you meant. clarify please. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, did you find the reason for native's unmarried status? > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > What about Jupiter, > > > > > > Do you think Ju can furnish timing despite having 13 > > points? > > > > > > Can you give your opinion on this Jupiter i.e can it give > > > > timing > > > > > or not. If it can give what is the reason and if it can't > > what > > > is > > > > > the reason? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > What about Shani's delay? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember the theory Krushna Ji had told once, for > Taurus > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > if > > > > > > > 1st and 7th hosue lords are in 2:12 then there can be > even > > > > > denial > > > > > > of > > > > > > > marriage. You must have seen that the Jupiter is the > delay > > > > > causing > > > > > > > planet in this chart. Jupiter's delay should end when it > > > > enters > > > > > > > Pisces as it then aspects 7th lord(Mars), which is in > > > January > > > > > 99. > > > > > > > Mars antra starts in 1999 March, so there are good > chances > > > > that > > > > > he > > > > > > > could have got married in Mars antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May be Krushna ji can guide why this did not happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, what's your opinion? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > > > mishra > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala and list members, > > > > > > > > Namaskar to all, > > > > > > > > Here is the chart of a male native who was born on 30 > > Jun > > > > 1974 > > > > > > > at 3;35 am .The place of birth is 23 N 22 and 85 E 21 > > India. > > > > > > > > This native is still unmarried and working in a > private > > > > > > company > > > > > > > as a public relations manager. When I saw his chart I > > found > > > > the > > > > > > > following combinations for marriage.The Asc is rising 21 > > Ta > > > > 26, > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > is at 23 Li 08 and Su is at 15 Ge 10. > > > > > > > > Su and Ve is 33 deg 03 min apart < 43 deg. Lagna lord > > and > > > > 9th > > > > > > > lord is in 2/12 position. Sat is in house A and > aspecting > > > > house > > > > > C. > > > > > > > In navamsa Sat is LoB and he is aspecting both the > > > luminaries > > > > as > > > > > > > well as Venus. Jup is not in Libra and Ve too is not in > > > > > Krittika.. > > > > > > > Ve is 6th lord too and he is in Asc. Ju and Ve is in > 4/10 > > > > > > > combinations. Jup is with 7 bindus in Aq and Ve is with > 5 > > > > bindus > > > > > > in > > > > > > > Ta. Therefore 6th lord Ve is controlling Ju who is Loc > for > > > 7th > > > > > > > house.There is no zero in the BAV. > > > > > > > > Only Mar and Jup is having >12 points and other > planets > > > are > > > > > > very > > > > > > > weak with < 12 points.The native is running Mer- Mer at > > > > > > present.Mer > > > > > > > is having only 6 points for 7th house.Me is LoA and in > > House > > > > A , > > > > > > > therefore his antara will not give marriage. Next antara > > is > > > of > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > who is SD to Ve and Ve is also weak and 6th lord. Ve is > Nk > > > for > > > > > > > marriage. Being the karaka weak ,his SD Ketu also can't > > give > > > > > > > marriage.Like that following antaras of Sun and Moon > also > > > will > > > > > not > > > > > > > give marriage.Though the Sun is LoD but he got only 09 > > > points > > > > > for > > > > > > > 7th house.I think Sun is incompetent to give marriage . > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > 12th from house B and he is also weak.Mars follows the > Mo > > > > antara > > > > > > and > > > > > > > he is a strong significator and LoE too , therefore Mars > > can > > > > > give > > > > > > > the result of house B.Mars antara is through > > > > > > > > 19 Mar 2014 and 17 Mar 2015. During this period native > > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > 39 +. > > > > > > > > Therefore I request all of you that " Is my calculation > on > > > the > > > > > > > line " and thus can we say this the denial of marriage ? > > > > Please > > > > > > > intervene your experiences on this chart. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > > > > > > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your > buddies > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
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