The Difference Between The Living aand the Dead

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ontVertAlignInTxbx/> Question: " What is the meaning of the verse in

the Bhagavad Gita where Sri Krishna declares a difference between the

" living " and the " dead " ?

 

" O Arjuna, you have mourned those that should not be mourned, and you speak

words as if with wisdom; The wise do not mourn for the dead or for the living. "

Gita II:11

 

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ontVertAlignInTxbx/> You have asked a wonderful question, which

lies right at the very heart of a proper understanding needed to achieve real

spiritual progress. It is not a coincidence, therefore, that this secret is

revealed in the very first teaching of Sri Krishna within the Bhagavad Gita.

 

Immediately prior to the Lord declaring that there was never a time when

" we " ceased to be:

 

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ontVertAlignInTxbx/> " Truly, there was never a time when I was not,

nor you, nor these lords of men; and neither will there be a time when we shall

cease to be, form this time onward. " Gita II:12

 

He says: " gatasun agatasums cananusocanti panditah " , " The wise mourn neither

for the dead or for the living. " The word used for " dead " is " gatasun " , the

gone. The word used for " living " is " agatasun " , the not gone.

 

 

 

So, what has gone, and where has it gone? The answer is found by looking

within the meanings of the root words in Sanskrit that formed the two words in

question. In both cases they are the same, coming from " gata " and " asu " . " Gata "

means gone, " asu " means breath! Now we should begin to see the reason why many

scriptures of various religions refer to what we nonchalantly call " respiration "

to, in reality, be the " Breath of Life " .

 

 

 

Bhagavan Ramana says, in his famous eksloke, engraved above his marble

statue in the Ashrams new hall of the temple dedicated to the Divine Mother: " If

you follow the " I " thought to it's source, or the breath to it's source, you

will arrive at the same origin - the Self " . The Buddha, and his descendants

declare: " The breath will lead you all the way to Nirvana. " Thus, within many

correct forms of meditation, watching the breath (awareness of its length and

movement) is an essential aspect of a practice that leads to the most advanced

attainment, to the purpose of life. The breath is therefore a means for ending

the cycle of successive lives, if only we use it skillfully.

 

 

 

The Self never waivers, neither from increase nor diminishment, It is! We

are sometimes given the gift of " breath " , and with it we progress towards higher

life in God. Sometimes we move, without the need for breath to sustain us,

through " other worlds " , " other mansions " within creation to approach and serve

our Creator. It all depends on the lessons we need to learn, the appointments we

need to keep, and the habits we need to break or acquire! Our meditation brings

us, eventually through skillful practice, to complete awareness and realization

of being truly " awake " in God. Sri Krishna, therefore, ends this most important

second chapter of the Gita by explaining this state as " stita prajna -- steady

in wisdom " . It is synonymous with " liberation " in life; the extinction of pain,

infinite bliss, and steady (poised with dignity) throughout all of life's joys

and sorrows.

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On 30/03/2010 12:55, tigersjaws wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

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ontVertAlignInTxbx/> Question: "What is the meaning of the

verse in the Bhagavad Gita where Sri Krishna declares a difference

between the "living"and the "dead"?

 

"O Arjuna, you have mourned those that should not be mourned, and you

speak words as if with wisdom; The wise do not mourn for the dead or

for the living." Gita II:11

 

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ontVertAlignInTxbx/> You have asked a wonderful question, which

lies right at the very heart of a proper understanding needed to

achieve real spiritual progress. It is not a coincidence, therefore,

that this secret is revealed in the very first teaching of Sri Krishna

within the Bhagavad Gita.

 

Immediately prior to the Lord declaring that there was never a time

when "we" ceased to be:

 

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ontVertAlignInTxbx/> "Truly, there was never a time when I was

not, nor you, nor these lords of men; and neither will there be a time

when we shall cease to be, form this time onward." Gita II:12

 

He says: "gatasun agatasums cananusocanti panditah", "The wise mourn

neither for the dead or for the living." The word used for "dead" is

"gatasun", the gone. The word used for "living" is "agatasun", the not

gone.

 

So, what has gone, and where has it gone? The answer is found by

looking within the meanings of the root words in Sanskrit that formed

the two words in question. In both cases they are the same, coming from

"gata" and "asu". "Gata" means gone, "asu" means breath! Now we should

begin to see the reason why many scriptures of various religions refer

to what we nonchalantly call "respiration" to, in reality, be the

"Breath of Life".

 

Bhagavan Ramana says, in his famous eksloke, engraved above his marble

statue in the Ashrams new hall of the temple dedicated to the Divine

Mother: "If you follow the "I" thought to it's source, or the breath to

it's source, you will arrive at the same origin - the Self". The

Buddha, and his descendants declare: "The breath will lead you all the

way to Nirvana." Thus, within many correct forms of meditation,

watching the breath (awareness of its length and movement) is an

essential aspect of a practice that leads to the most advanced

attainment, to the purpose of life. The breath is therefore a means for

ending the cycle of successive lives, if only we use it skillfully.

 

The Self never waivers, neither from increase nor diminishment, It is!

We are sometimes given the gift of "breath", and with it we progress

towards higher life in God. Sometimes we move, without the need for

breath to sustain us, through "other worlds", "other mansions" within

creation to approach and serve our Creator. It all depends on the

lessons we need to learn, the appointments we need to keep, and the

habits we need to break or acquire! Our meditation brings us,

eventually through skillful practice, to complete awareness and

realization of being truly "awake" in God. Sri Krishna, therefore, ends

this most important second chapter of the Gita by explaining this state

as "stita prajna -- steady in wisdom". It is synonymous with

"liberation" in life; the extinction of pain, infinite bliss, and

steady (poised with dignity) throughout all of life's joys and sorrows.

 

 

 

 

 

Breath

 

 

Breath

Is the bridge

Between being

And being not,

Called by people

"Life" and "Death".

 

The timeless,

All containing life,

One without a second

Has nothing to oppose.

The opposite of death

Is birth.

 

Inhaling –

I am born.

Exhaling –

I die.

In the meantime

My life

Flows,

Unaffected.

 

Praise be!

 

 

 

jai jai ramanaji!

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yosy