Guest guest Report post Posted March 20, 2010 > > > > Bhagavan's Best Means for Mind > Control > www.spiritual-teaching.com ( http://app.expressemailmarketing.com/get.link?linkid=1998039 & rid=101949\ 548 & campaignid=534004 & linkurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.spiritual-teaching.com%2f > ) > > > > During the years that Sri Ramana Maharshi > was living on the sacred hill of Arunachala in the > Virupaksha cave, a devotee whose most urgent concern was > this very question was visiting him daily. > > The devotee asked Bhagavan: " Of the means for mind-control, > which is the most important? " > > The Master replied not just to the devotee, rather his > answer was framed to all universally: > > " Breath control is the > means for mind control. " > > The devotee, being a bhakta (follower and > friend) of Lord Rama, was well aware of the fact that this > answer was a well-established practice in the ancient > religions of the world. He no doubt was aware that what was > being referred to was not the complicated, misused, and the > sometimes destructive practice of yogic pranayama, but > rather a practice also known as " watching the breath " . > Nevertheless, after Bhagavan briefly discussed the textual > definitions of breath retention and regulation, the devotee > restated his question: > > " How is breath-control the > means for mind-control? " > > Bhagavan replied: " There is no doubt that breath-control is > the means for mind-control, because the mind, like > breath, is a part of air, because the nature of mobility is > common to both, because the place of origin is common to > both, and because when one of them is controlled the other > gets controlled. " > > Bhagavan's teaching regarding breath-control is clearly > given in Chapter Six of the Sri Ramana Gita: > " One should control the fickle > mind by controlling the breath and then it, like a tethered > animal, ceases to stray. " > > " With the control of breath, > control of thoughts also is achieved. When thoughts are > controlled one stands established at their source. " > > " Control of breath means merely > watching with the mind the flow of breath. Through such > constant watching kumbhaka does come about. " > Deception of the Mind > > Forty-four years later Bhagavan was again > requested to expand on this essential means for controlling > the mind. But prior to that revelation, the need arises to > address those who flatly, and paradoxically with an angry > boldness, declare that the mind and this so-called ego are > all an illusion. > > They retort that what is being asked to be > controlled simply does not exist, and absolutely no effort > need be exercised to attain this Divine state referred to as > the " One thing needful " . They refer to the Master saying > that this 'One thing' is absolute Knowledge of the > Self, and it is always there. Furthermore, they emphatically > propound that Bhagavan's essential teaching proclaims, " We > are That " , and the guru's work is solely to reveal this > Truth. > > Undoubtedly, Bhagavan's teaching emphasized > that the Self (God) is within us. His essential teaching, > however, as a jagat guru, was the revelation of atma vichara > as the path of enquiry, which effectively removes the > ignorance of identification with the false " I " , and > inevitably leads one to the direct experience (aparoksha > anubhava) of Self-realization. Bhagavan definitively > clarifies this Truth, and that of the guru's role, when He > declared: > > " If ignorance is wiped out the confusion will end and true > knowledge unfolded. By remaining in contact with > realized sages one gradually loses his ignorance till > it disappears totally. The eternal Self is thus revealed. > Without understanding it aright people think that the Guru > teaches something like " TATVAMASI " and immediately the > disciple realizes " I am Brahman " . In their ignorance they > conceive Brahman to be something much bigger and far more > powerful than anything else. With a limited 'I' man is so > stuck up and wild. What will he be if the same 'I' increased > enormously? He will certainly be proportionately more > ignorant and more foolish. This false 'I' must perish. Its > annihilation is the fruit of service to the Guru. > Realization is eternal and is not granted by the Guru. The > Guru helps only the removal of ignorance — that is > all. " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2010 Namaste,I have clicked both links. They both go to the same place, spiritual-teachingdotcom. What ebook are you recommending?Best WishesRichard--- On Sat, 3/20/10, tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs wrote:tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs MIND CONTROL Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 3:24 PM> > > > Bhagavan's Best Means for Mind> Control> www.spiritual-teaching.com ( http://app.expressemailmarketing.com/get.link?linkid=1998039 & rid=101949548 & campaignid=534004 & linkurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.spiritual-teaching.com%2f> ) > > > > During the years that Sri Ramana Maharshi> was living on the sacred hill of Arunachala in the> Virupaksha cave, a devotee whose most urgent concern was> this very question was visiting him daily. > > The devotee asked Bhagavan: "Of the means for mind-control,> which is the most important?" > > The Master replied not just to the devotee, rather his> answer was framed to all universally: > > "Breath control is the> means for mind control." > > The devotee, being a bhakta (follower and> friend) of Lord Rama, was well aware of the fact that this> answer was a well-established practice in the ancient> religions of the world. He no doubt was aware that what was> being referred to was not the complicated, misused, and the> sometimes destructive practice of yogic pranayama, but> rather a practice also known as "watching the breath".> Nevertheless, after Bhagavan briefly discussed the textual> definitions of breath retention and regulation, the devotee> restated his question:> > "How is breath-control the> means for mind-control?" > > Bhagavan replied: "There is no doubt that breath-control is> the means for mind-control, because the mind, like> breath, is a part of air, because the nature of mobility is> common to both, because the place of origin is common to> both, and because when one of them is controlled the other> gets controlled." > > Bhagavan's teaching regarding breath-control is clearly> given in Chapter Six of the Sri Ramana Gita:> "One should control the fickle> mind by controlling the breath and then it, like a tethered> animal, ceases to stray."> > "With the control of breath,> control of thoughts also is achieved. When thoughts are> controlled one stands established at their source."> > "Control of breath means merely> watching with the mind the flow of breath. Through such> constant watching kumbhaka does come about." > Deception of the Mind> > Forty-four years later Bhagavan was again> requested to expand on this essential means for controlling> the mind. But prior to that revelation, the need arises to> address those who flatly, and paradoxically with an angry> boldness, declare that the mind and this so-called ego are> all an illusion. > > They retort that what is being asked to be> controlled simply does not exist, and absolutely no effort> need be exercised to attain this Divine state referred to as> the "One thing needful". They refer to the Master saying> that this 'One thing' is absolute Knowledge of the> Self, and it is always there. Furthermore, they emphatically> propound that Bhagavan's essential teaching proclaims, "We> are That", and the guru's work is solely to reveal this> Truth. > > Undoubtedly, Bhagavan's teaching emphasized> that the Self (God) is within us. His essential teaching,> however, as a jagat guru, was the revelation of atma vichara> as the path of enquiry, which effectively removes the> ignorance of identification with the false "I", and> inevitably leads one to the direct experience (aparoksha> anubhava) of Self-realization. Bhagavan definitively> clarifies this Truth, and that of the guru's role, when He> declared: > > "If ignorance is wiped out the confusion will end and true> knowledge unfolded. By remaining in contact with> realized sages one gradually loses his ignorance till> it disappears totally. The eternal Self is thus revealed.> Without understanding it aright people think that the Guru> teaches something like "TATVAMASI" and immediately the> disciple realizes "I am Brahman". In their ignorance they> conceive Brahman to be something much bigger and far more> powerful than anything else. With a limited 'I' man is so> stuck up and wild. What will he be if the same 'I' increased> enormously? He will certainly be proportionately more> ignorant and more foolish. This false 'I' must perish. Its> annihilation is the fruit of service to the Guru.> Realization is eternal and is not granted by the Guru. The> Guru helps only the removal of ignorance — that is> all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2010 Dear Richard, I am not recommending any e book. If you wish to write to Swamiji who send us these posts I can give you his e mail address. Warmest regards, Alan , Richard <pminow wrote: > > > Namaste, > > I have clicked both links. They both go to the same place, spiritual-teachingdotcom. What ebook are you recommending? > > Best Wishes > Richard > > --- On Sat, 3/20/10, tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > tigersjaws <alanadamsjacobs > MIND CONTROL > > Saturday, March 20, 2010, 3:24 PM > > >     > >     > >         > >     Bhagavan's Best Means for Mind > > Control > > www.spiritual-teaching.com ( http://app.expressemailmarketing.com/get.link?linkid=1998039 & rid=101949\ 548 & campaignid=534004 & linkurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.spiritual-teaching.com%2f > > ) > >     > >        > >                > >  During the years that Sri Ramana Maharshi > > was living on the sacred hill of Arunachala in the > > Virupaksha cave, a devotee whose most urgent concern was > > this very question was visiting him daily. > > > > The devotee asked Bhagavan: " Of the means for mind-control, > > which is the most important? " > > > > The Master replied not just to the devotee, rather his > > answer was framed to all universally: > > > >    " Breath control is the > > means for mind control. " > > > >  The devotee, being a bhakta (follower and > > friend) of Lord Rama, was well aware of the fact that this > > answer was a well-established practice in the ancient > > religions of the world. He no doubt was aware that what was > > being referred to was not the complicated, misused, and the > > sometimes destructive practice of yogic pranayama, but > > rather a practice also known as " watching the breath " . > > Nevertheless, after Bhagavan briefly discussed the textual > > definitions of breath retention and regulation, the devotee > > restated his question: > > > >      " How is breath-control the > > means for mind-control? " > > > > Bhagavan replied: " There is no doubt that breath-control is > > the means for mind-control, because the mind, like > > breath, is a part of air, because the nature of mobility is > > common to both, because the place of origin is common to > > both, and because when one of them is controlled the other > > gets controlled. " > > > > Bhagavan's teaching regarding breath-control is clearly > > given in Chapter Six of the Sri Ramana Gita: > >      " One should control the fickle > > mind by controlling the breath and then it, like a tethered > > animal, ceases to stray. " > > > >      " With the control of breath, > > control of thoughts also is achieved. When thoughts are > > controlled one stands established at their source. " > > > >      " Control of breath means merely > > watching with the mind the flow of breath. Through such > > constant watching kumbhaka does come about. " > > Deception of the Mind > > > >    Forty-four years later Bhagavan was again > > requested to expand on this essential means for controlling > > the mind. But prior to that revelation, the need arises to > > address those who flatly, and paradoxically with an angry > > boldness, declare that the mind and this so-called ego are > > all an illusion. > >    > >    They retort that what is being asked to be > > controlled simply does not exist, and absolutely no effort > > need be exercised to attain this Divine state referred to as > > the " One thing needful " . They refer to the Master saying > > that this 'One thing' is absolute Knowledge of the > > Self, and it is always there. Furthermore, they emphatically > > propound that Bhagavan's essential teaching proclaims, " We > > are That " , and the guru's work is solely to reveal this > > Truth. > > > >    Undoubtedly, Bhagavan's teaching emphasized > > that the Self (God) is within us. His essential teaching, > > however, as a jagat guru, was the revelation of atma vichara > > as the path of enquiry, which effectively removes the > > ignorance of identification with the false " I " , and > > inevitably leads one to the direct experience (aparoksha > > anubhava) of Self-realization. Bhagavan definitively > > clarifies this Truth, and that of the guru's role, when He > > declared: > > > > " If ignorance is wiped out the confusion will end and true > > knowledge unfolded. By remaining in contact with > > realized sages one gradually loses his ignorance till > > it disappears totally. The eternal Self is thus revealed. > > Without understanding it aright people think that the Guru > > teaches something like " TATVAMASI " and immediately the > > disciple realizes " I am Brahman " . In their ignorance they > > conceive Brahman to be something much bigger and far more > > powerful than anything else. With a limited 'I' man is so > > stuck up and wild. What will he be if the same 'I' increased > > enormously? He will certainly be proportionately more > > ignorant and more foolish. This false 'I' must perish. Its > > annihilation is the fruit of service to the Guru. > > Realization is eternal and is not granted by the Guru. The > > Guru helps only the removal of ignorance †" that is > > all. "   > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
