From Talks and Day By Day with Bhagavan

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The Light

 

A certain lawyer from Cuddalore quoted as follows: “Neither the

sun shines there, nor the moon, nor the stars, nor lightning. How

can fire shine there? All these luminaries shine in His Light only.

With His Light, all these shine forth!†He asked, what does ‘with

His Light’ mean here? Does all else shine on account of Him, or

in His Light?

Bhagavan: There is only He. He and His Light are the same. There is no

individual to perceive other things, because the perceiver and the

perceived are only He. The sun, the moon, etc., shine forth. How?

Do they come and tell you that they shine forth or does another

apart from them say that they shine forth?

Devotee: Of course I say that they shine forth.

Bhagavan: Therefore they shine on account of you. Again consciousness is

necessary to know that they shine forth. That consciousness is your

Self or you. So then you or your consciousness is the same as He

and His Light by which all else shine forth.

 

source: Talk 420

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya!

 

 

 

2. effort is needed

 

A yount man from Colombo asked Bhagavan, " J. Krishnamurti teaches the method of

effortless and choiceless awareness as distinct from that of deliberate

concentration. Would Sri Bhagavan be pleased to explain how best to practice

meditation and what form the object of meditation should take? "

 

Bhagavan: " Effortless and choiceless awareness is our real nature. If we can

attain it or be in that state, it is all right. But one cannot reach it without

effort, the effort of deliberate meditation. All the age-long vasanas carry the

mind outward and turn it to external objects. All such things have to be given

up and the mind turned inward. For that, effort is necessary for most people. Of

course everybody, every book says, ... 'Be quiet or still'. But it is not easy.

That is why all this effort is necessary. Even if we find oue who has at once

achived the mauna or Supreme state indicated by ...['Be quiet or still'] you may

take it that the effort necessary has already been finished in a previous life.

So that, effortless and choiceless awareness is reached only after deliberate

meditation. That meditation can take any form which appeals to you best. See

what helps you to keep away all other thoughts and adopt the method for your

meditation. "

 

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Day by Day, 11.1.46 Afternoon