New to group

[Guest guest]

first off, welcome nicole

second..good luck in yer endevours

thirdly...sorry about the unsupportive partner...just be patient!!

as fer info...tons of places...

www.ivu.com

www.vegsource.com

www.earthsave.com

www.veganessentials.com/

www.vegan.com/

 

where do you reside??

several companies make vegan cheeses, veganrella, that sort of thing..i dislike

cheese so haven't paid much attention..i'm sure someone here can give ya good

info, tho it would be easier if we knows where ya resides..

cheers

fraggle

" nic2576 " <nic2576 wrote:

 

>Hi everyone! I have been a vegetarian for a year now, and am thinking

>about going vegan. I have been with my bf for nine years, he is very

>unsupportive of my decision to go vegetarian and I fear how he will

>be if I decide to go vegan. Does any one know where I can get

>information on being vegan? Also, Is there anywhere I can find a

>cheddar cheese substitute?

>

>Nicole

>

>

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nic,

 

Did you try www.vegansociety.com? There's a great Vegan Shopper book you can

buy for only £3.99 incl. p & p which lists everything you can eat and use.

 

I eat some soya cheese called Scheese. Visit www.scheese.co.uk for info.

When I first became vegan I tried Cheezly from Holland & Barrett but wasn't

very keen on that. I found Scheese in the One Earth vegan shop in Birmingham

and it's much, much nicer in my opinion.

 

Congrats on being vegetarian, good luck on becoming vegan and hopefully your

boyfriend will accept your change of lifestyle. he ought to anyway!

 

<3

Shari

 

-

" nic2576 " <nic2576

 

Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:51 PM

new to group

 

 

> Hi everyone! I have been a vegetarian for a year now, and am thinking

> about going vegan. I have been with my bf for nine years, he is very

> unsupportive of my decision to go vegetarian and I fear how he will

> be if I decide to go vegan. Does any one know where I can get

> information on being vegan? Also, Is there anywhere I can find a

> cheddar cheese substitute?

>

> Nicole

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nicole!

 

Congrats on yer decision!

 

I am going to assume that you got nicely bombarded with links to lots

of vegan info already and not post any. But should I see not, I will

give you a few links that have helped me later.

 

But I did want to comment on the bf issue. Bottom line is this, you

are the one who needs to make this decision and feel comfortable with

it. It is your body and your life.

 

At the same time tho, you need to realize the dramatic change this

poses on the people who love you most and understand it is hard fer

people to acceot not only change itself, but one as large as this.

(Especially if you two live together) The best thing you can do, is

sit down and talk with him. Explain to him why you feel this way and

why you have made this choice. Try to do as much research as possible

and if he has a question you cannot answer, ask him to sit at the

puter with you and the two of you can research it together. Or go to

the library and grab some books (also assuming you have gotten

suggestions on this as well).

 

I live with 2 big meat-eaters. It took me awhile to understand why

this was so hard of a decision for dh to accept. I wondered what the

heck did he care what I ate. After all, I was the one giving

everything up! Then I realized the impact a deicion like this can

make on a household, especially when only one person was making it.

And I realized I needed to give just as much as I was asking for.

 

So in your asking for him to accept your decision, realize that you

to must try to accept his and understand his side. It really helps!

But again, bottom-line is tht you need to decide for yourself in what

you want to do!

 

Just my two cents and hope I have helped!

 

Ah yes, almost forgot! Cheddar cheese substitute as well as most

cheese can be found in a lot of local grocery stores. Where are you

located?

 

Good Luck!

 

nikki

Nothing underneath the Sun merely happens; things are done.

Arthur Guiterman

 

 

, " nic2576 " <nic2576> wrote:

> Hi everyone! I have been a vegetarian for a year now, and am

thinking

> about going vegan. I have been with my bf for nine years, he is

very

> unsupportive of my decision to go vegetarian and I fear how he will

> be if I decide to go vegan. Does any one know where I can get

> information on being vegan? Also, Is there anywhere I can find a

> cheddar cheese substitute?

>

> Nicole

[Guest guest]

Hi Nic/Shari

 

We were the other way round - tried Scheese and didn't like it - but like

Cheezly :-)

 

Jo

 

> I eat some soya cheese called Scheese. Visit www.scheese.co.uk for info.

> When I first became vegan I tried Cheezly from Holland & Barrett but

wasn't

> very keen on that.

 

 

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For sandwiches, Tofutti's slices are pretty tasty... I haven't seen cheddar, but they have .... um.... white cheese? Can't remember. Mozzarella maybe? Yes! And an orange-y yellow American cheese that you can pretend is cheddar if you like I think the stuff even melts!

-- jojo

 

Peter <Snowbow wrote:

Hi Nic/ShariWe were the other way round - tried Scheese and didn't like it - but likeCheezly :-)Jo> I eat some soya cheese called Scheese. Visit www.scheese.co.uk for info.> When I first became vegan I tried Cheezly from Holland & Barrett butwasn't> very keen on that.---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/02To send an email to -

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Where can you get Tofutti (in England)? Any well known stores?

 

<3

Shari

 

-

jojo

Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:13 AM

Re: new to group

 

For sandwiches, Tofutti's slices are pretty tasty... I haven't seen cheddar, but they have .... um.... white cheese? Can't remember. Mozzarella maybe? Yes! And an orange-y yellow American cheese that you can pretend is cheddar if you like I think the stuff even melts! -- jojo Peter <Snowbow wrote: Hi Nic/ShariWe were the other way round - tried Scheese and didn't like it - but likeCheezly :-)Jo> I eat some soya cheese called Scheese. Visit www.scheese.co.uk for info.> When I first became vegan I tried Cheezly from Holland & Barrett butwasn't> very keen on that.---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release 03/10/02To send an email to -

[Guest guest]

The HFS (Greens) near to me at work (central London) sells them, so does Infinity Foods in Brighton. Not sure if I've seen them in Holly & Bolly - sorry, not too helpful that comment - never seen them in a supermarket tho some of them sell other Tofutti stuff.

 

Viv

"You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji" www.veganvillage.co.uk www.vegansociety.com

 

BlackVelvetMagazine.Com [shari]Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: new to group

Where can you get Tofutti (in England)? Any well known stores?

 

<3

Shari

 

-

jojo

Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:13 AM

Re: new to group

 

For sandwiches, Tofutti's slices are pretty tasty... I haven't seen cheddar, but they have .... um.... white cheese? Can't remember. Mozzarella maybe? Yes! And an orange-y yellow American cheese that you can pretend is cheddar if you like I think the stuff even melts! -- jojo

 

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:34:08 -0000, anthropology_folklore wrote

> Hi,

> My Mom is gluten intolerant and I have many of the same health

> problems she has so I figured I'd go gluten free for a month or so

> and see how I feel. I'm having a hard time finding resources, some

> say spelt is okay, others say it's not. I'm wondering if anyone knows

> of a good comprehensive list of what I can and can't eat?

> Also, is there a good substitute for couscous?

 

Cheryl

 

I wouldn't use spelt if I were you. It is a form of wheat and does contain

gluten.

 

BL

[Guest guest]

* Exported from MasterCook *

 

Vegetarian Split Pea Soup

 

Recipe By :

Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00

Categories : Chapt:Main Dishes Chapt:One Dish Meals

Diet:Vegetarian Ing:Beans, Peas & Legumes

Ing:Grains

 

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method

-------- ------------ --------------------------------

3 qts water

21 ozs split peas

5 ozs barley

1 c mushrooms

1 carrot

1 stalk celery

1/2 c low sodium soy sauce

1/4 tsp pepper

1/4 tsp mustard

 

Bring water to boil in at least a 4 quart kettle. Add everything else and

simmer over very low heat for at least 2 hours, stirring frequently. It burns

easily so be careful.

 

Source:

" Weight Watchers "

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 333 Calories; 1g Fat (3.5% calories from

fat); 22g Protein; 61g Carbohydrate; 22g Dietary Fiber; 0mg Cholesterol; 634mg

Sodium. Exchanges: 4 Grain(Starch); 1 1/2 Lean Meat; 1/2 Vegetable; 0 Fat; 0

Other Carbohydrates.

¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,

Barbara Zanzig, Kirkland, WA

hertz, http://www.isomedia.com/homes/hertz/

[Guest guest]

Hi...I am not real new here but I do the same.I dont posyt much buut love the

recipes! And the people are great! Welcome to you all!LOve and hugs,Barbara

 

Lucy <lucyashes wrote: I just signed up and have already copied

several recipes from just the first two newsletters. I'm going to love this

group.

 

Thanks,

Lucy

 

 

 

Mail

Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

 

 

[Guest guest]

HI Alev!

I'm a sahm to our two veg homeschooled kids. Our daughter is almost

8, and our son is 10. We live in DC, moved her in June from NYC

(from Los Angeles, from NYC, from AZ.. .from... but that's a long

story! lol)

 

anyway, I'm glad you found us!

 

this is the place to find veg recipes! =)

 

=)

welcome,

jenni

On Mar 15, 2006, at 8:15 AM, redsoxfaninva04 wrote:

> Hello,

>

> My name is Alev. I'm a stay-at-home mom to a 16-month-old daughter

> named Liz. We live in the DC suburbs. I'm not a vegetarian, but have

> many friends who are. I joined this board to get yummy, vegetarian

> recipes. I also want to find healthy recipes for my daughter. She

> loves vegetables, but I want to find other ways than just serving them

> plain.

>

> Look forward to getting to know you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Brenda! It's good to have new people on here. Isn't it wonderful

what eating raw food can do to get rid of health problems? As for your

allergies, you are in luck since none of the three are required or

even recommended. I am trying to use more " earth friendly " things in my

home, too. It's quite a process, isn't it?

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , " berrywell " <berrywell wrote:

>

> Hello to all. I am very excited to have found this group-I have just

> been poking around in the files section and want to thank you for all

> of the valuable info. I am 42 years old, many chronic health issues,

> and started raw/organic food diet 8 months ago. Recently, I started

> eliminating other toxic chemicals from personal care items and

> cleaning products. I have been making everything homemade, and look

> forward to learning and sharing with this group. I am allergic to

> wheat/dairy/eggs.

> Brenda

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Wendy, I'm down here in Georgia too. I also homeschooled, but just the last

son. Great work, there! I know what it is like having non-veg living in the

same house. Double dinners every night. Ugh!!!

 

Anyway, welcome to the garden of earthly delights. Lightning is bad here so I

am offline till it passes!!!

 

Jeanne in Georgia

 

 

 

 

Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta.

 

 

[Guest guest]

-Hello Mrs. Wendy, I have the same problem i have just started eating

vegetarian meals, my daughter and her father are serious meat eaters,

this morning was a first, they both actually dranked a blueberry

smoothie that I was making for myself and they loved it. Tamika and

Joe didn't notice that I had switched to organic milk

 

 

-- In , " Wendy Samper " <Mom4God

wrote:

>

> Hello,

> I am new to the Vegetarian Group. I am almost 100% on a Vegetarian

Diet but live with the rest of my household not interested. I have

always made some of our meals meatless. But it seems that I am the

only one who cares about the outcome. I want to be healthy and to

learn how to cook a vegan diet without the loss of good tasting

food. I am experimenting with soy products and finding them to be

great!. I work midnights and also homeschool so I do not always get

to my email. But wanted to let you know I was here. I live in

Georgia but grew up in Minnesota.

>

> God bless,

> Wendy

>

> Wife to Luie, Mom to Steven, Isaac, Josh and Joey Mother in Law to

Michele and Grandmother to Makayla.

>

> -IM: MomforGod

> AOL IM WendyJS123

>

> I love to garden, make soap, tye-dye, raise organic foods; my

hobbies are quilting, crocheting, sewing, and cooking. We homeschool

and live in the Country. I work full time and have a home business.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

well organic milk is in the heart, not in the taste ;O)

hugs,

Chanda

-

jackiekelley2003

Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:05 PM

Re: New to Group

 

 

-Hello Mrs. Wendy, I have the same problem i have just started eating

vegetarian meals, my daughter and her father are serious meat eaters,

this morning was a first, they both actually dranked a blueberry

smoothie that I was making for myself and they loved it. Tamika and

Joe didn't notice that I had switched to organic milk

 

-- In , " Wendy Samper " <Mom4God

wrote:

>

> Hello,

> I am new to the Vegetarian Group. I am almost 100% on a Vegetarian

Diet but live with the rest of my household not interested. I have

always made some of our meals meatless. But it seems that I am the

only one who cares about the outcome. I want to be healthy and to

learn how to cook a vegan diet without the loss of good tasting

food. I am experimenting with soy products and finding them to be

great!. I work midnights and also homeschool so I do not always get

to my email. But wanted to let you know I was here. I live in

Georgia but grew up in Minnesota.

>

> God bless,

> Wendy

>

> Wife to Luie, Mom to Steven, Isaac, Josh and Joey Mother in Law to

Michele and Grandmother to Makayla.

>

> -IM: MomforGod

> AOL IM WendyJS123

>

> I love to garden, make soap, tye-dye, raise organic foods; my

hobbies are quilting, crocheting, sewing, and cooking. We homeschool

and live in the Country. I work full time and have a home business.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Debbie. Go to the main site, go to files, go to recipes and you

will be well on your way to a vegetarian or vegan diet. Both types of

recipes are in there.

 

Marilyn Daub

mcdaub

Vanceburg, KY

My Cats Knead Me!!

-

Reed Deborah

Monday, August 07, 2006 10:55 PM

New to group

 

 

Hi, I am new to the group. I am interested in

changing my diet to one that is plant-based. I

recently began reading the book " Hope's Edge: The Next

Diet for a Small Planet " by Frances Moore Lappe and

Anne Lappe. I think this is a much more efficient way

of eating and it is so good for you as inherent

vitamins and nutrients have not been processed out of

the food (be it through manufacturing or through an

animal). Now with gas being $3 a gallon, I

think it is very important to consider energy

efficiency in all aspects of our lives. This is a

very healthy and beneficial way. Thanks, Debbie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

welcome to the group Debbie!

 

blessings,

Chanda

-

Reed Deborah

Monday, August 07, 2006 10:55 PM

New to group

 

 

Hi, I am new to the group. I am interested in

changing my diet to one that is plant-based. I

recently began reading the book " Hope's Edge: The Next

Diet for a Small Planet " by Frances Moore Lappe and

Anne Lappe. I think this is a much more efficient way

of eating and it is so good for you as inherent

vitamins and nutrients have not been processed out of

the food (be it through manufacturing or through an

animal). Now with gas being $3 a gallon, I

think it is very important to consider energy

efficiency in all aspects of our lives. This is a

very healthy and beneficial way. Thanks, Debbie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello HCC and welcome to our group!

That's wonderful that you're contemplating going vegetarian again. We have

lots of tasty low-cal recipes in our files so check them out! That's good that

you're seeking good food to eat; it's so easy to eat heavy items as vegetarians,

such as lots of pasta, potatoes, etc. My partner and I make those things every

once in a while but try & focus more on tofu, beans, grains and vegetables.

 

Again, welcome!

Cindi

 

 

Lawyer Girl <honeycarmelcutie wrote:

Nickname: HoneyCarmelCutie or HCC

Age: 20's

Region: Michigan (detroit area)

Status: Working on becoming a veggie. I've been thinking about this for a few

months now. I would like any recipes/tips you may have. I have stopped eating

meat before but due to lack of veggie choices returned to eating meat. Im trying

to ween myself off this time. Also I am looking to lose some major pounds so low

fat/cal and very tasty recipes are encouraged! Thanks !-HCC

 

" Dream as if you will live forever....Live as if you will die Today! "

 

 

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Hope and welcome to the group.

 

Maybe you could mention on the group your particular reasons for becoming

vegetarian - you said on your membership request that you were concerned

about cloning of animals, a highly worthwhile reason but one we don't hear

about often. There are so many reasons for choosing a vegetarian diet, some

people like to go on eating things that resemble the foods they were used to

having whilst enjoying the advantage of a vegetarian diet, whereas others

really want to avoid anything that reminds them of meat! Everyone to his/her

taste...

 

Now you're a member you have access to the Messages section which you can

browse to see the conversations that have been going on on the list, also

the Files section with a magnificent selection of recipes to suit all

occasions. If you've sampled some of the recipes you will soon realize

there's no reason at all to worry about the taste of vegetarian foods, all

are delicious and before long you won't be able to imagine eating

non-vegetarian food again!

 

A few words you've probably come across - " Vegetarian " (or " vegetarian

ovo-lacto " ) means not eating anything obtained by killing an animal (or

bird, or fish, or fowl) whereas " vegan " excludes all products of animals

e.g. dairy products, eggs, honey and so on.

 

Someone on a vegetarian diet (ovo-lacto) can obtain protein from eggs and/or

dairy products, and there are many other high protein sources suitable for a

vegetarian or vegan diet, e.g. nuts, pulses (peas, lentils, various sorts of

beans), soya products (e.g. tofu, tempeh). If you search the web you can

probably find a lot more. Normally we say we get enough protein from

ordinary food, but if a medical issue is involved it might be worth taking

specialist advice too (ideally from a vegetarian-friendly doctor!).

 

Wishing you success in 2007 with your vegetarian diet, and a lot of pleasure

with the group!

 

Piers (co-owner )

 

-

" Hope " <hope46224

 

Monday, January 01, 2007 9:46 AM

New to Group

 

 

> Hello Everyone!!

>

> I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about being a

> vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein

> intake as I am a Bariatric patient.

>

> What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan

> world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods.

>

> If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e. hot

> dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if you

> are against eating meat?

[Guest guest]

Hello Hope,

 

I think Piers did a good job of explaining that there are a lot of

protein sources for vegetarians in the foods they choose. Also one

can buy protein powder to add to drinks. I've never purchased it

myself but I would consider it if I thought I needed more protein in

my diet.

 

You mentioned veggie burgers and veggie dogs. Its not like that is

all we eat as vegetarians and have one or the other for dinner every

night. Occasionally when I'm out at a restaurant I do enjoy a veggie

burger with a salad on the side. We are trying to slim down here

afer all so no to the fries it usually comes with. Also depending on

the sauces used on the veggie burger I'll ask for a burger without

the sauce. Sometimes there is nothing else on the menu suitable for

a vegetarian. As for veggie dogs. I've been a vegetarian for over 20

years. Back when I was a kid I never liked hot dogs and when veggie

dogs came out I did try them but I found them gross. Reminded me too

much of a regular hot dog. However, if I am really hungry I will eat

one. The time comes to mind when we were at a dude ranch a few years

ago and they knew of my vegetarian needs. We came back from a

morning of riding and I was famished. And there they were waiting

for me: veggie dogs.

 

As Piers said, everyone has their own tastes. When I was a kid I

always liked eating a chocolate Mickey Mouse for my Easter candy. No

chocolate bunnies for me. We all became vegetarians for many

reasons. Some of us might like meat and want to have it but resist

the temptation for the reasons we became a vegetarian, so the soy

products out there that are meat substitutes can help bridge that

gap. But that's not all we eat. I buy frozen veggie burgers from

time to time. I don't have any in the house right now as I'm

focusing on losing weight with a healthy diet. I like them, but once

in a while is good for me.

 

Check out the recipes section. I'm sure you'll find lots of great

tasting new meals to try. If you're worried about a vegetarian diet

being too bland you can experiment with all kinds of different

spices. I tend to prefer Caribbean and Mexican influenced meals and

there are lots of vegetarian choices.

 

Good luck to you.

Cheryl

 

 

, " Hope " <hope46224

wrote:

>

> Hello Everyone!!

>

> I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about

being a

> vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein

> intake as I am a Bariatric patient.

>

> What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan

> world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods.

>

> If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e.

hot

> dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if

you

> are against eating meat?

>

> Hope =)

>

[Guest guest]

Piers,

I am a relatively new vegetarian. I was worried, also, with getting enough

protein. I remember reading (somewhere) that combining two of the following you

get a complete protein : nuts, legumes, grains. Therefore I often try to eat

things like oatmeal and nuts, beans and rice, curry with nuts over rice, etc. Is

this approach something I should continue?

Marie

 

Piers Clement <piers_clement wrote:

Hi Hope and welcome to the group.

 

Maybe you could mention on the group your particular reasons for becoming

vegetarian - you said on your membership request that you were concerned

about cloning of animals, a highly worthwhile reason but one we don't hear

about often. There are so many reasons for choosing a vegetarian diet, some

people like to go on eating things that resemble the foods they were used to

having whilst enjoying the advantage of a vegetarian diet, whereas others

really want to avoid anything that reminds them of meat! Everyone to his/her

taste...

 

Now you're a member you have access to the Messages section which you can

browse to see the conversations that have been going on on the list, also

the Files section with a magnificent selection of recipes to suit all

occasions. If you've sampled some of the recipes you will soon realize

there's no reason at all to worry about the taste of vegetarian foods, all

are delicious and before long you won't be able to imagine eating

non-vegetarian food again!

 

A few words you've probably come across - " Vegetarian " (or " vegetarian

ovo-lacto " ) means not eating anything obtained by killing an animal (or

bird, or fish, or fowl) whereas " vegan " excludes all products of animals

e.g. dairy products, eggs, honey and so on.

 

Someone on a vegetarian diet (ovo-lacto) can obtain protein from eggs and/or

dairy products, and there are many other high protein sources suitable for a

vegetarian or vegan diet, e.g. nuts, pulses (peas, lentils, various sorts of

beans), soya products (e.g. tofu, tempeh). If you search the web you can

probably find a lot more. Normally we say we get enough protein from

ordinary food, but if a medical issue is involved it might be worth taking

specialist advice too (ideally from a vegetarian-friendly doctor!).

 

Wishing you success in 2007 with your vegetarian diet, and a lot of pleasure

with the group!

 

Piers (co-owner )

 

-

" Hope " <hope46224

 

Monday, January 01, 2007 9:46 AM

New to Group

 

> Hello Everyone!!

>

> I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about being a

> vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein

> intake as I am a Bariatric patient.

>

> What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan

> world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods.

>

> If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e. hot

> dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if you

> are against eating meat?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Piers!

 

Thanks so much for responding and so quickly too!!

 

I was watching the news a couple of days ago and heard the government

has OK'd for meat from cloned animals will be stocked on grocery

shelves without an advisory label. My personal opinion, if it is

cloned it is not from God. Therefore shall not pass over my lips.

You have to wonder what the US Government is up to and what they are

really experimenting!!

 

I never realized how much meat and/or meat products humans consume!!

I have always just thought of meat as " meat from the store " , not from

the actual animal.

 

I am excited about taking on this new lifestyle however I am

struggling more than I thought I would. I am torn because the New

Testament in the bible states it is ok to eat what God has provided

for us. Then I think of all the times when my family and I are

driving somewhere and we pass a farm. Usually I am half hanging out

of the window screaming " HI " to the cows, seriously. Most of the

time the cows look at me like I am NUTS and my kids make fun of me,

but I have a fantastic time doing it!!!

 

As far as choosing the vegetarian slimming lifestyle, I thought there

is no better choice to eat healthy!! Lots of fruits and veggies as

opposed to processed foods and meats.

 

I will keep plugging away at it!!

 

Hope =)

 

P.S. Why is it that vegans do not eat fish? Jesus provided fish and

loaves to the masses. Just trying to understand different views of

life. Please don't think I am an idiot!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Piers Clement

<piers_clement wrote:

>

> Hi Hope and welcome to the group.

>

> Maybe you could mention on the group your particular reasons for

becoming

> vegetarian - you said on your membership request that you were

concerned

> about cloning of animals, a highly worthwhile reason but one we

don't hear

> about often. There are so many reasons for choosing a vegetarian

diet, some

> people like to go on eating things that resemble the foods they

were used to

> having whilst enjoying the advantage of a vegetarian diet, whereas

others

> really want to avoid anything that reminds them of meat! Everyone

to his/her

> taste...

>

> Now you're a member you have access to the Messages section which

you can

> browse to see the conversations that have been going on on the

list, also

> the Files section with a magnificent selection of recipes to suit

all

> occasions. If you've sampled some of the recipes you will soon

realize

> there's no reason at all to worry about the taste of vegetarian

foods, all

> are delicious and before long you won't be able to imagine eating

> non-vegetarian food again!

>

> A few words you've probably come across - " Vegetarian "

(or " vegetarian

> ovo-lacto " ) means not eating anything obtained by killing an animal

(or

> bird, or fish, or fowl) whereas " vegan " excludes all products of

animals

> e.g. dairy products, eggs, honey and so on.

>

> Someone on a vegetarian diet (ovo-lacto) can obtain protein from

eggs and/or

> dairy products, and there are many other high protein sources

suitable for a

> vegetarian or vegan diet, e.g. nuts, pulses (peas, lentils, various

sorts of

> beans), soya products (e.g. tofu, tempeh). If you search the web

you can

> probably find a lot more. Normally we say we get enough protein from

> ordinary food, but if a medical issue is involved it might be worth

taking

> specialist advice too (ideally from a vegetarian-friendly doctor!).

>

> Wishing you success in 2007 with your vegetarian diet, and a lot of

pleasure

> with the group!

>

> Piers (co-owner )

>

> -

> " Hope " <hope46224

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 9:46 AM

> New to Group

>

>

> > Hello Everyone!!

> >

> > I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about

being a

> > vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein

> > intake as I am a Bariatric patient.

> >

> > What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan

> > world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods.

> >

> > If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e.

hot

> > dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if

you

> > are against eating meat?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

 

As I've suggested, if you eat a " normal " selection of foods you should get

sufficient protein without looking for any supplements - unless there's a

special health reason for doing so. On the other hand there's nothing wrong

with the way of eating you suggest, sounds admirable. In the long run you'll

find your own way, eating the food you're comfortable with and finding ways

of combining them that you find most agreeable and convenient.

 

One comment though - you may have read the message " Food for thought " that

is automatically sent to the list every month. We are a slimming list and

nuts are among the foods you should not eat too much in a slimming diet.

Personally I eat nuts as a constituent of my (self-made) muesli every 2 days

(the other days it's porridge) but don't look out for them any other time.

 

Piers

 

-

" marie selders " <s3ld3rs

 

Monday, January 01, 2007 9:45 PM

Re: New to Group

 

 

> Piers,

> I am a relatively new vegetarian. I was worried, also, with getting

enough protein. I remember reading (somewhere) that combining two of the

following you get a complete protein : nuts, legumes, grains. Therefore I

often try to eat things like oatmeal and nuts, beans and rice, curry with

nuts over rice, etc. Is this approach something I should continue?

[Guest guest]

Hi Hope,

 

Thanks for your mail. I can imagine you find a conflict between what you

intuitively choose as diet and what your religious beliefs might tell you,

but this is something you will no doubt figure out yourself in the end,

techically that's what they call a " cognitive dissonance " .

 

I can't really advise you on this either, as my views would be quiet

different - if anyone else wants to take this matter up with you I suggest

they do it off-list. We really aren't set up to discuss religion on the

list, cos if you do so you're bound to upset someone! And, there's so much

to talk about with all these marvellous recipes and questions about food

choice!

 

Piers

 

-

" Hope " <hope46224

 

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 6:18 AM

Re: New to Group

 

 

> Hi Piers!

>

> Thanks so much for responding and so quickly too!!

>

> I was watching the news a couple of days ago and heard the government

> has OK'd for meat from cloned animals will be stocked on grocery

> shelves without an advisory label. My personal opinion, if it is

> cloned it is not from God. Therefore shall not pass over my lips.

> You have to wonder what the US Government is up to and what they are

> really experimenting!!

>

> I never realized how much meat and/or meat products humans consume!!

> I have always just thought of meat as " meat from the store " , not from

> the actual animal.

>

> I am excited about taking on this new lifestyle however I am

> struggling more than I thought I would. I am torn because the New

> Testament in the bible states it is ok to eat what God has provided

> for us. Then I think of all the times when my family and I are

> driving somewhere and we pass a farm. Usually I am half hanging out

> of the window screaming " HI " to the cows, seriously. Most of the

> time the cows look at me like I am NUTS and my kids make fun of me,

> but I have a fantastic time doing it!!!

>

> As far as choosing the vegetarian slimming lifestyle, I thought there

> is no better choice to eat healthy!! Lots of fruits and veggies as

> opposed to processed foods and meats.

>

> I will keep plugging away at it!!

>

> Hope =)

>

> P.S. Why is it that vegans do not eat fish? Jesus provided fish and

> loaves to the masses. Just trying to understand different views of

> life. Please don't think I am an idiot!!

[Guest guest]

Hello Hope and welcome to our group. I'm Cindi, co-owner.

 

High protein foods would include beans, soy/tofu and nuts. However, nuts are

high in calories so you may want to limit your intake.

 

As far as eating " fake meat " ..personally, I don't eat much of that stuff.

Sometimes we'll have a veggie patty for an easy meal. Sometimes we'll bring

them to a family BBQ. In our house, we focus more on whole grains, vegetables

and tofu as our main ingredients.

 

Again, welcome!

Cindi

 

Hope <hope46224 wrote:

Hello Everyone!!

 

I am new to the group. I hope to gain alot of knowledge about being a

vegetarian through this group. I will need to have a high protein

intake as I am a Bariatric patient.

 

What are some really high protein foods in the vegetarian/vegan

world? I am really worried about the taste of vegetarian foods.

 

If you are a vegetarian why would you want to eat something (i.e. hot

dog, hamburger, etc.)that looks like the real food, but isn't if you

are against eating meat?

 

Hope =)

 

 

 

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