Guest guest Posted July 19, 2002 Report Posted July 19, 2002 B " H Yiddish for Grandma (see, I do know SOME Yiddish ;-) -- from my Bubby ;-) (I think it's nona in Ladino ;-) Debbie I know I'm just jumping in here, but if you don't mind me asking, what's a bubby? Hannah Quote
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Posted July 20, 2002 Karl Marx? Wow! -- jojo - " compugraphd " <compugraphd Friday, July 19, 2002 1:14 PM Re: Yiddish (and Ladino) Lesson..... > B " H > > Well, with us, it all started when my grandfather died. We went > through his stuff and in his stuff were some notes about my great- > grandfather's family (this is my grandmother's father -- my > grandfather was not only his son-in-law but his protege too). My > grandfather was a genealogist (in addition to being a Kashrut and > Congregational Rabbi) and had done some research on Jews in Eastern > Europe. Most of his notes on this were in German (his sister, who is > currently living, KI " H, AMUSH -- [these are two Hebrew appreviations > meaning " without the evil eye " and " may she live to 120 " -- which is > the age Moses lived to and, therefore, traditionally the longest > life] in Israel -- and will be, G-d willing, 90 in November, is > translating and transcribing them [she's been working on this for > around 10 or so years])..... > > Anyway, my great-grandfather wrote some books on Responsa (questions > and answers asked of him by his congregants over the years on Jewish > law) -- 3 in total. The third volume was published after he died and > contained a very nice biography (which my brother and I translated > since most of our relatives don't understand -- or even read -- > Hebrew) -- the problem with translating it was that most of it was > written in biblical and talmudic and poetic Hebrew which sounds > lovely in Hebrew, but can sound trite if translated word for word in > English... But I digress.... > > In the introduction of each volume (which I have reproduced and > translated for my web site on my family page) mentioned several > Rabbis that my great-grandfather was descended from. Some of them > were famous enough in Jewish circles that I could get information on > them from Jewish Encyclopedias (which I was able to find in my > college's library). > > In the meantime, my two cousins (both of whom are considerably > younger than I -- both are in their 20s now while I'm in my late 40s) > got interested in this too (both when they were in their mid teens). > The one in Israel (who is my 2nd cousin -- her grandmother and my > grandmother were the first two of 9 children) got interested when her > father bought a program that was a genealogy database. So she and I > shared information. The one who lives in Arizona (whose parents are > both my 3rd cousins -- and they're each others' 3rd cousins too ;-) > and he became very interested in finding out if we were indeed > descended from Rashi (who is the first commentator children learn on > the Torah -- I find it amazing how much of what he said I remember > from elementary and High School)...... > > It's really nice when you find out that you're descended from famous > Rabbis. It's much easier to trace things..... (probably the most > famous person you all might have heard of that we are related to -- I > think something like 8th cousins 6 times removed or 6th cousins 8 > times removed, I forget what I figured out -- is Karl Marx.) > > Debbie > > > > Man! I want a family geneologist, too! I've always wanted to do > that, but it takes so much time and my family has not really kept up > with their ancestry That is wonderful that you know so much about > where you came from! I loved the " boring rye bread Ashkenazic " > comment, btw I have some suspicions of my own about my background > due to my fave food obsessions: dolmades (stuffed grape leaves,) > falafel, anything with tahini in it, etc... stinky, swarthy, garlic- > y, salty foods = YUMMY!!!!! LOL! > > -- jojo > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Posted July 20, 2002 Anyone know my great (...) great uncle Levi? Michael (Gee, I hope someone finds that funny, it's the only genealogy I know beyond those I've met) Quote
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Posted July 20, 2002 Debbie Double wow! Jo > Karl Marx? Wow! > > -- jojo > - > " compugraphd " <compugraphd > > Friday, July 19, 2002 1:14 PM > Re: Yiddish (and Ladino) Lesson..... > > > > B " H > > > > Well, with us, it all started when my grandfather died. We went > > through his stuff and in his stuff were some notes about my great- > > grandfather's family (this is my grandmother's father -- my > > grandfather was not only his son-in-law but his protege too). My > > grandfather was a genealogist (in addition to being a Kashrut and > > Congregational Rabbi) and had done some research on Jews in Eastern > > Europe. Most of his notes on this were in German (his sister, who is > > currently living, KI " H, AMUSH -- [these are two Hebrew appreviations > > meaning " without the evil eye " and " may she live to 120 " -- which is > > the age Moses lived to and, therefore, traditionally the longest > > life] in Israel -- and will be, G-d willing, 90 in November, is > > translating and transcribing them [she's been working on this for > > around 10 or so years])..... > > > > Anyway, my great-grandfather wrote some books on Responsa (questions > > and answers asked of him by his congregants over the years on Jewish > > law) -- 3 in total. The third volume was published after he died and > > contained a very nice biography (which my brother and I translated > > since most of our relatives don't understand -- or even read -- > > Hebrew) -- the problem with translating it was that most of it was > > written in biblical and talmudic and poetic Hebrew which sounds > > lovely in Hebrew, but can sound trite if translated word for word in > > English... But I digress.... > > > > In the introduction of each volume (which I have reproduced and > > translated for my web site on my family page) mentioned several > > Rabbis that my great-grandfather was descended from. Some of them > > were famous enough in Jewish circles that I could get information on > > them from Jewish Encyclopedias (which I was able to find in my > > college's library). > > > > In the meantime, my two cousins (both of whom are considerably > > younger than I -- both are in their 20s now while I'm in my late 40s) > > got interested in this too (both when they were in their mid teens). > > The one in Israel (who is my 2nd cousin -- her grandmother and my > > grandmother were the first two of 9 children) got interested when her > > father bought a program that was a genealogy database. So she and I > > shared information. The one who lives in Arizona (whose parents are > > both my 3rd cousins -- and they're each others' 3rd cousins too ;-) > > and he became very interested in finding out if we were indeed > > descended from Rashi (who is the first commentator children learn on > > the Torah -- I find it amazing how much of what he said I remember > > from elementary and High School)...... > > > > It's really nice when you find out that you're descended from famous > > Rabbis. It's much easier to trace things..... (probably the most > > famous person you all might have heard of that we are related to -- I > > think something like 8th cousins 6 times removed or 6th cousins 8 > > times removed, I forget what I figured out -- is Karl Marx.) > > > > Debbie > > > > > > > > Man! I want a family geneologist, too! I've always wanted to do > > that, but it takes so much time and my family has not really kept up > > with their ancestry That is wonderful that you know so much about > > where you came from! I loved the " boring rye bread Ashkenazic " > > comment, btw I have some suspicions of my own about my background > > due to my fave food obsessions: dolmades (stuffed grape leaves,) > > falafel, anything with tahini in it, etc... stinky, swarthy, garlic- > > y, salty foods = YUMMY!!!!! LOL! > > > > -- jojo > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 B " H Yeah, well, my Mom isn't too thrilled about cousin Karl -- he was very anti-Jewish and even more anti-Religious. As far as the communist stuff goes, that's not a problem ;-) Debbie Karl Marx? Wow! -- jojo - " compugraphd " <compugraphd Friday, July 19, 2002 1:14 PM Re: Yiddish (and Ladino) Lesson..... > B " H > <snip> > It's really nice when you find out that you're descended from famous > Rabbis. It's much easier to trace things..... (probably the most > famous person you all might have heard of that we are related to -- I > think something like 8th cousins 6 times removed or 6th cousins 8 > times removed, I forget what I figured out -- is Karl Marx.) > > Debbie Quote
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 Karl Marx, eh? Wow! I once stayed with a Jewish family and they were lovely people. Made me feel very welcome in their home. :-) Janey x > B " H > > Yeah, well, my Mom isn't too thrilled about cousin Karl -- he was > very anti-Jewish and even more anti-Religious. As far as the > communist stuff goes, that's not a problem ;-) > > Debbie Quote
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 Hi Debbie > Yeah, well, my Mom isn't too thrilled about cousin Karl -- he was > very anti-Jewish and even more anti-Religious. I'm intrigued - I knew Marx was anti-Religion, but i didn't know he was specifically anti-Jewish. Would you mind telling us a bit more? BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 10/07/02 Quote
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