Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Does anyone have a good rebuttal?? * * * Death by Veganism Sign In to E-Mail or Save This Print Share DiggFacebookNewsvinePermalink By NINA PLANCK Published: May 21, 2007 WHEN Crown Shakur died of starvation, he was 6 weeks old and weighed 3.5 pounds. His vegan parents, who fed him mainly soy milk and apple juice, were convicted in Atlanta recently of murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty. Skip to next paragraph Jacob Magraw-Mickelson This particular calamity — at least the third such conviction of vegan parents in four years — may be largely due to ignorance. But it should prompt frank discussion about nutrition. I was once a vegan. But well before I became pregnant, I concluded that a vegan pregnancy was irresponsible. You cannot create and nourish a robust baby merely on foods from plants. Indigenous cuisines offer clues about what humans, naturally omnivorous, need to survive, reproduce and grow: traditional vegetarian diets, as in India, invariably include dairy and eggs for complete protein, essential fats and vitamins. There are no vegan societies for a simple reason: a vegan diet is not adequate in the long run. Protein deficiency is one danger of a vegan diet for babies. Nutritionists used to speak of proteins as " first class " (from meat, fish, eggs and milk) and " second class " (from plants), but today this is considered denigrating to vegetarians. The fact remains, though, that humans prefer animal proteins and fats to cereals and tubers, because they contain all the essential amino acids needed for life in the right ratio. This is not true of plant proteins, which are inferior in quantity and quality — even soy. A vegan diet may lack vitamin B12, found only in animal foods; usable vitamins A and D, found in meat, fish, eggs and butter; and necessary minerals like calcium and zinc. When babies are deprived of all these nutrients, they will suffer from retarded growth, rickets and nerve damage. Responsible vegan parents know that breast milk is ideal. It contains many necessary components, including cholesterol (which babies use to make nerve cells) and countless immune and growth factors. When breastfeeding isn't possible, soy milk and fruit juice, even in seemingly sufficient quantities, are not safe substitutes for a quality infant formula. Yet even a breast-fed baby is at risk. Studies show that vegan breast milk lacks enough docosahexaenoic acid, or DHA, the omega-3 fat found in fatty fish. It is difficult to overstate the importance of DHA, vital as it is for eye and brain development. A vegan diet is equally dangerous for weaned babies and toddlers, who need plenty of protein and calcium. Too often, vegans turn to soy, which actually inhibits growth and reduces absorption of protein and minerals. That's why health officials in Britain, Canada and other countries express caution about soy for babies. (Not here, though — perhaps because our farm policy is so soy-friendly.) Historically, diet honored tradition: we ate the foods that our mothers, and their mothers, ate. Now, your neighbor or sibling may be a meat-eater or vegetarian, may ferment his foods or eat them raw. This fragmentation of the American menu reflects admirable diversity and tolerance, but food is more important than fashion. Though it's not politically correct to say so, all diets are not created equal. An adult who was well-nourished in utero and in infancy may choose to get by on a vegan diet, but babies are built from protein, calcium, cholesterol and fish oil. Children fed only plants will not get the precious things they need to live and grow. Nina Planck is the author of " Real Food: What to Eat and Why. " * * * Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/21/opinion/21planck.html? ex=1180411200 & en=824ff7cf05097c16 & ei=5070 & emc=eta1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Thanks for posting this, Monika. I note Ms. Planck has no fancy abbreviations after her name. How does one get so thoroughly miseducated without even going to school? This is the ugliest attack on truth I've ever seen. Very sad. Nora www.RawSchool.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 This article contains many scare tactics and outright lies. I don't have time to dissect the entire article, but I'll comment on a couple of things. First off, to say that a vegan pregnancy is irresponsible is, in my opinion, the height of ignorance. As Sue correctly pointed out, it depends on the quality of the mother's diet. A vegan diet can be perfectly healthy for a baby or it can not, depending on the actual nutrition. " Vegan " is a very broad term for many different types of diets and foods. The author of the article says that plant based protein is inferior. I've never attached any credibility to this argument. The author sounds like a spokesperson for the meat industry. Last year I started lifting weights again and was able to gain over 10 pounds of muscle in a few months, on a 100% vegan diet. 14 years ago, while in college and on a meat eating diet (before I realized the error of my ways), I was not able to reach the same performance results. There are many variables involved, but in my experience, vegetable based protein is healthier and just as effective at building muscle (if not more so) than meat based protein. The author then says that vegan diets *may* lack vitamins B12, A and D. Yes, any diet *may* lack any nutrient if it is not balanced and healthy. Oh, and let's just tack on calcium and zinc for good measure. Sloppy journalism at its best here. The author says that a vegan diet lacks DHA. If she did even a little bit of research she would know that there are vegan forms of DHA (through marine algae for example). It took me about 10 seconds to find vegan products with DHA in them on a Google search. Whenever someone says a vegan diet is lacking some important nutritional component, I can always and easily find a vegan product that satisfies that nutritional need. The arguments against a vegan diet are like a house of cards. This article is based on misinformation and ignorance. By spreading such lies, the author is contributing and supporting the continuation of a society based on the murder and exploitation of innocent beings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I think that we all know that you can be completely healthy, (healthier in my opinion), on a vegan diet and obtain all required nutrients. I think what is scary about this article is that although we see that these people allowed their baby to subsist on apple juice (which many Nutritionists call empty sugar water) and soy milk, and probably didn’t feed the baby breast milk enough through out the day, what is scary is that if you want the utmost health for your baby and make the decision to be vegan, if the court system determines the cause of death for you baby is because the mother is vegan or the baby is vegan you can get life in prison. So these vegans got life in prison while rapists and murderers get maybe 20 years. Where is the justice? I once saw a news story about a couple that went to jail because the court said that they killed their baby with anti-freeze. It was determined 5 years later that the baby had a rare disorder in which the body produced chemicals that were similar in nature to the chemicals in anti-freeze and after 5 years in jail they were let out. The mainstream American culture has determined that cow’s milk is important for babies even though by rational thought only the baby mammal should drink from its own mother and why humans ever started drinking milk from another mammal is completely bizarre. Most cultures in the world don’t do this, it is only Europeans and Americans that do this, Native Americans, Asians, African Americans, Indians, Polynesians, and many other cultures did not historically drink from other mammals. As a result most cultures are lactose intolerant and would get sick if they did eat or drink dairy. It is mostly European Americans who aren’t lactose intolerant (although many still are) because it has been in the culture for so long the body has built up a tolerance for it. And what about parents who overfeed their kids, or feed them junk food devoid of nutrition and as a result their kids get adult type 2 diabetes which is hitting kids now so much so that they had to rename adult onset diabetes to type 2 diabetes. Or their children get obese, raising their risk for diseases, or have severe allergies to dairy which could kill them and are fed dairy anyway. Shouldn’t these parents go to jail as well? It is a fact that Americans are the sickest in the world, the most obese, over-fed yet when someone tries to be anti-American and eat as a conscious being and have their child be healthier than the mainstream American, they go to jail for it. I agree they should have seeked advice of a Nutritionist or a Naturopathic doctor when their baby didn’t gain weight, but making the statement that they are getting life in prison because they were vegan will scare many people back to the mainstream, obese, cancer and other disease causing, environmental, animal cruel ways of being carnivore. My friend was told by a doctor that if she didn’t start eating meat she would die. These extreme ways of thinking, and scare tactics are what has caused wars, bombings, shootings, and it is time that there is a major shift in the world, both in how we treat animals, our environment, and each other. Josh <jjc132 wrote: This article contains many scare tactics and outright lies. I don't have time to dissect the entire article, but I'll comment on a couple of things. First off, to say that a vegan pregnancy is irresponsible is, in my opinion, the height of ignorance. As Sue correctly pointed out, it depends on the quality of the mother's diet. A vegan diet can be perfectly healthy for a baby or it can not, depending on the actual nutrition. " Vegan " is a very broad term for many different types of diets and foods. The author of the article says that plant based protein is inferior. I've never attached any credibility to this argument. The author sounds like a spokesperson for the meat industry. Last year I started lifting weights again and was able to gain over 10 pounds of muscle in a few months, on a 100% vegan diet. 14 years ago, while in college and on a meat eating diet (before I realized the error of my ways), I was not able to reach the same performance results. There are many variables involved, but in my experience, vegetable based protein is healthier and just as effective at building muscle (if not more so) than meat based protein. The author then says that vegan diets *may* lack vitamins B12, A and D. Yes, any diet *may* lack any nutrient if it is not balanced and healthy. Oh, and let's just tack on calcium and zinc for good measure. Sloppy journalism at its best here. The author says that a vegan diet lacks DHA. If she did even a little bit of research she would know that there are vegan forms of DHA (through marine algae for example). It took me about 10 seconds to find vegan products with DHA in them on a Google search. Whenever someone says a vegan diet is lacking some important nutritional component, I can always and easily find a vegan product that satisfies that nutritional need. The arguments against a vegan diet are like a house of cards. This article is based on misinformation and ignorance. By spreading such lies, the author is contributing and supporting the continuation of a society based on the murder and exploitation of innocent beings. Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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