the *rawfood way of life*?

[Guest guest]

Janey

 

Just ignore it all.

 

Jo

 

ah yes, but ...

 

to a raw

> food diet. Every day I eat 100% but sometimes (just SOMETIMES!) with my

raw

> salad I'll have a plain baked potato. It helped me transition, but now I

> don't miss cooked food like I did initially. Are you guys just being

> pedantic or just plain rude?! I'm really sad this subject came to this

> list, because people are just poking fun at it. I'm off back to my new

> list!

>

> p.s. As I think I mentioned on when Ian McDonald asked,

> I eat about two cooked foods a week - not whole meals, but two cooked

> items, ie. a potato, or a portion of wholewheat pasta. The rest of the

week

> is completely raw. Plus, obviously, no tea, coffee, alchol aswell.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> p.s. As I think I mentioned on when Ian McDonald asked,

> I eat about two cooked foods a week

 

Well considering I'm not on I wouldn't have seen that and if I were,

my question would have not been asked.

 

Talisman

[Guest guest]

According to the book I read, a Rawfood diet consists of a large proportion

of raw food, i.e. 80% raw, 20% lightly cooked. I'm not sure if that was the

correct proportion because it's quite a while since I read the book. The

reasons given were quite interesting, mainly to do with the goodness we get

from raw food as opposed to cooked food, and the percentage of raw food

needed to out-do the diminished nutrition in cooked food.

 

~~~~~

 

Ahh, understood. I kinda thought being a rawfoodist was like being a vegan

you either " are " or you aren't. Like you can't call yourself a vegan if you

eat dairy a few times a week. Ya know? I don't know much about the whole

raw food thing which is why I ask stupid questions. =)

 

Talisman

[Guest guest]

Talisman wrote:

>

> Ahh, understood. I kinda thought being a rawfoodist was like being a vegan

> you either " are " or you aren't. Like you can't call yourself a vegan if you

> eat dairy a few times a week. Ya know? I don't know much about the whole

> raw food thing which is why I ask stupid questions. =)

>

> Talisman

 

Rawfood is a lifestyle. Veganism is moral precept. Lifestyles tend to be

fuzzy at the edges, whereas moral precepts tend to be cut and dried.

 

--

Ian McDonald

 

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[Guest guest]

Ignore the pratts Janey I agree with you re a raw food Diet but I've onle

recently started to do it Henct I do raw for breakfast and Lunch and cooked

for tea It's a matter of getting organised to have enoughh raw food in the

house I still have to cook for my mum and that makes it harder too

Bread is the hardest to stop eating imo because its so easy and quick

Angie

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" Janey " <jane.cuming

 

Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:16 AM

Re: Re: the *rawfood way of life*?

 

 

> That's what I just said! But RARELY these days. I'm transitioning to a

raw

> food diet. Every day I eat 100% but sometimes (just SOMETIMES!) with my

raw

> salad I'll have a plain baked potato. It helped me transition, but now I

> don't miss cooked food like I did initially. Are you guys just being

> pedantic or just plain rude?! I'm really sad this subject came to this

> list, because people are just poking fun at it. I'm off back to my new

> list!

>

>>

> -

> " Talisman " <talisman

>

> Saturday, January 12, 2002 12:55 AM

> Re: Re: the *rawfood way of life*?

>

>

> > > Sometimes I'll have a baked potato with my salad, but very rarely

these

> >

> > Stupid, but seriously interested, question... how is a baked potato a

raw

> > food? Cuz in order to eat a bake potato you obviously have to cook it.

> >

> > Talisman

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

So what does that make me? If I'm a vegan and I eat a rawfood diet?! I

just consider myself a vegan who chooses fresh fruit and salady foods. ;-)

But if someone told me that raw meat would be fantastic for my health, then

I'd tell them where to stick their advice! At the end of the day I'm a

vegan and my current diet compliments my lifestyle but I wouldn't compromise

my views for the sake of a *healthier* me through meat.

 

Janey

x

 

>

> Rawfood is a lifestyle. Veganism is moral precept. Lifestyles tend to be

> fuzzy at the edges, whereas moral precepts tend to be cut and dried.

>

> Ian McDonald

[Guest guest]

> So what does that make me? If I'm a vegan and I eat a rawfood diet?!

 

A Vegan RawFoodist? LOL

 

Talisman

[Guest guest]

In that post I actually went on to answer my own question. I'm just a

vegan. Fraggle is right, there are too many labels in life.

 

Janey

x

 

 

> > So what does that make me? If I'm a vegan and I eat a rawfood diet?!

>

> A Vegan RawFoodist? LOL

>

> Talisman

[Guest guest]

Its nice to know that you're thinking along the same lines. Incorporating

more fresh fruit etc into your diet is good for everybody to do. Its so

much easier in the summer though with all the lovely local produce.

 

Janey

x

 

 

> Ignore the pratts Janey I agree with you re a raw food Diet but I've onle

> recently started to do it Henct I do raw for breakfast and Lunch and

cooked

> for tea It's a matter of getting organised to have enoughh raw food in

the

> house I still have to cook for my mum and that makes it harder too

> Bread is the hardest to stop eating imo because its so easy and quick

> Angie

[Guest guest]

Janey wrote:

>

> So what does that make me?

 

IMHO, a rawfood vegan. Your veganism is a moral precept, so you don't

eat any animal products at all. But your raw food diet is a lifestyle

choice, so it's okay for you to have some cooked foods and still call

yourself a raw foodie.

 

All IMHO. Would you agree with that?

 

--

Ian McDonald

 

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[Guest guest]

Don't let them get to you Janey. How many of us can swear to being a 100%

vegan 100% of the time anyway as much as we might try? I've been interested

in fruitarianism/raw food diets for a while now but don't have the will

power to give up my cooked stuff. So well done you!

 

Cheers

 

Viv

 

" You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji "

www.veganvillage.co.uk

www.vegansociety.com

http://VEGAN-info.com/index.htm

 

 

 

Janey [jane.cuming]

Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:17 AM

 

Re: Re: the *rawfood way of life*?

 

 

That's what I just said! But RARELY these days. I'm transitioning to a raw

food diet. Every day I eat 100% but sometimes (just SOMETIMES!) with my raw

salad I'll have a plain baked potato. It helped me transition, but now I

don't miss cooked food like I did initially. Are you guys just being

pedantic or just plain rude?! I'm really sad this subject came to this

list, because people are just poking fun at it. I'm off back to my new

list!

 

p.s. As I think I mentioned on when Ian McDonald asked,

I eat about two cooked foods a week - not whole meals, but two cooked

items, ie. a potato, or a portion of wholewheat pasta. The rest of the week

is completely raw. Plus, obviously, no tea, coffee, alchol aswell.

 

Janey

x

 

 

 

 

-

" Talisman " <talisman

 

Saturday, January 12, 2002 12:55 AM

Re: Re: the *rawfood way of life*?

 

 

> > Sometimes I'll have a baked potato with my salad, but very rarely these

>

> Stupid, but seriously interested, question... how is a baked potato a raw

> food? Cuz in order to eat a bake potato you obviously have to cook it.

>

> Talisman

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Awwwwwww, thanks Viv. :-)

 

Janey

x

 

 

> Don't let them get to you Janey. How many of us can swear to being a 100%

> vegan 100% of the time anyway as much as we might try? I've been

interested

> in fruitarianism/raw food diets for a while now but don't have the will

> power to give up my cooked stuff. So well done you!

>

> Cheers

>

> Viv

>

> " You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji "

[Guest guest]

> How many of us can swear to being a 100% vegan 100% of the

> time anyway as much as we might try?

 

I think there is a difference between accidentally ingesting a non-vegan

item vs. doing it on purpose. So again, I don't think you can call yourself

a vegan if you ingest dairy products " once in a while " vs. I think it's

perfectly acceptable to call yourself a vegan if you just realized what you

ate had whey or something in it.

 

Talisman

[Guest guest]

I was referring to the accidental stuff and using stuff like photographic

film (which I don't do any more since I got a digital camera). But I'm sure

I sometimes eat stuff that's not vegan that I don't know is there. When I

first went vegetarian, way back in 1970, I virtually lived on cheese & eggs.

In those days there wasn't any vegetarian cheese around and I had no idea

there was such a thing as rennet...

 

Cheers

 

Viv

 

" You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji "

www.veganvillage.co.uk

www.vegansociety.com

http://VEGAN-info.com/index.htm

 

 

 

Talisman [talisman]

Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:16 PM

 

Re: Re: the *rawfood way of life*?

 

 

> How many of us can swear to being a 100% vegan 100% of the

> time anyway as much as we might try?

 

I think there is a difference between accidentally ingesting a non-vegan

item vs. doing it on purpose. So again, I don't think you can call yourself

a vegan if you ingest dairy products " once in a while " vs. I think it's

perfectly acceptable to call yourself a vegan if you just realized what you

ate had whey or something in it.

 

Talisman

 

 

 

 

 

To send an email to -

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree Talisman. I would never *knowingly* eat dairy or an animal

product of some degree unless I was eating out and ate it by accident. This

isn't such an issue for me now but if I go to Herbies (great veggie

restaurant in Exeter) then I will eat something hot but I always make sure

its vegan. Their vegan selection is fantastic. I don't tend to eat in

*normal* restaurants these days, and at home I just eat fresh produce.

 

Janey

x

 

 

 

> > How many of us can swear to being a 100% vegan 100% of the

> > time anyway as much as we might try?

>

> I think there is a difference between accidentally ingesting a non-vegan

> item vs. doing it on purpose. So again, I don't think you can call

yourself

> a vegan if you ingest dairy products " once in a while " vs. I think it's

> perfectly acceptable to call yourself a vegan if you just realized what

you

> ate had whey or something in it.

>

> Talisman

[Guest guest]

went out yesterday to a bar we frequent..my S.O. had frenchfries, and

insisted i eat them also..i had a few..and, tho they cooked em in veggie oil,

apparantly something else got in there(fish?) as i have had..umm..how to a

put this...a runny bottom, for over a day now

yuck!

they use to be really good an\bout making there foods seperately there too!!

they had seperate oil fryers fer veggies, and meat...guess not so anymore

ugh

*holds tummy*

fraggle

 

 

In a message dated 1/13/02 10:47:29 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Viv writes:

 

<<

I was referring to the accidental stuff and using stuff like photographic

film (which I don't do any more since I got a digital camera). But I'm sure

I sometimes eat stuff that's not vegan that I don't know is there. When I

first went vegetarian, way back in 1970, I virtually lived on cheese & eggs.

In those days there wasn't any vegetarian cheese around and I had no idea

there was such a thing as rennet... >>