Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hi Anouk I have an album by Liquid Tension Experiment (an offshoot of Dream Theater) which states that the last track (at some 34 minutes long) is " for the enjoyment of the people playing.... if you do not like self-indulgent widdling, you should not listen to this track " . Personally, I enjoy it :-) BB Peter - " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 AM Re: Ever hear of Trivium? > you mean like santana > when they go on forever? > > yeah, i don't have the patience. > i think that kind of playing is for the enjoyer not the enjoyee. > > , peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: > > > > You obviously never tried to play a guitar? or you`d appreciate the > skill and techniques of some players. > > Personaly, I do not like a lot of noodling, but can appreciate the > efforts put into some of it. Some it seems to be there just for the > sake of it , or just because its an expected cliche.Some of it is > played with a lot of feeling and expression ( blues particularly), > some just cold filler (imo).But then again, same could be said for any > instrument solos eh? ( 15 minute drum solos leave me cold/asleep ). > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Very honest warning, more of that genre should follow suite.Personally, I think that sort of thing should have faded away in the mid 70`s............... The Valley Vegan..............Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi AnoukI have an album by Liquid Tension Experiment (an offshoot of Dream Theater)which states that the last track (at some 34 minutes long) is "for theenjoyment of the people playing.... if you do not like self-indulgentwiddling, you should not listen to this track". Personally, I enjoy it :-)BBPeter-"Anouk Sickler" Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 AM Re: Ever hear of Trivium?> you mean like santana> when they go on forever?>> yeah, i don't have the patience.> i think that kind of playing is for the enjoyer not the enjoyee.>> , peter VV wrote:> >> > You obviously never tried to play a guitar? or you`d appreciate the> skill and techniques of some players.> > Personaly, I do not like a lot of noodling, but can appreciate the> efforts put into some of it. Some it seems to be there just for the> sake of it , or just because its an expected cliche.Some of it is> played with a lot of feeling and expression ( blues particularly),> some just cold filler (imo).But then again, same could be said for any> instrument solos eh? ( 15 minute drum solos leave me cold/asleep ).>>>>>> To send an email to - > Links>>>>To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 i think that some people have short attention span.. recently a saw a pbs special where a music teacher turned around rowdy hyperactive kids and by the end of the school year they had the apreciation and patience to sit through a symphony. when I like a song, i can play it over and over and over again. and again more. In fact, i am not allowed to play a certain sting abulm in my house.. because otherwise my husband will trow up. so I only play it when he is away. (dream of the blue turtles) , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Anouk > > I have an album by Liquid Tension Experiment (an offshoot of Dream Theater) > which states that the last track (at some 34 minutes long) is " for the > enjoyment of the people playing.... if you do not like self-indulgent > widdling, you should not listen to this track " . Personally, I enjoy it :-) > > BB > Peter > > > - > " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato > > Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 AM > Re: Ever hear of Trivium? > > > > you mean like santana > > when they go on forever? > > > > yeah, i don't have the patience. > > i think that kind of playing is for the enjoyer not the enjoyee. > > > > , peter VV <swpgh01@> wrote: > > > > > > You obviously never tried to play a guitar? or you`d appreciate the > > skill and techniques of some players. > > > Personaly, I do not like a lot of noodling, but can appreciate the > > efforts put into some of it. Some it seems to be there just for the > > sake of it , or just because its an expected cliche.Some of it is > > played with a lot of feeling and expression ( blues particularly), > > some just cold filler (imo).But then again, same could be said for any > > instrument solos eh? ( 15 minute drum solos leave me cold/asleep ). > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 personally .. i don't like songs that go to long... *shrug* someone wankin er noodlin on a guitar for ten minutes holds absolutely no interest fer me now, as for short attention span, i don't really...hey lets go ride bikes! >flower child <zurumato >Oct 13, 2006 4:04 PM > > Re: Ever hear of Trivium? > >i think that some people have short attention span.. > >recently a saw a pbs special where a music teacher turned >around rowdy hyperactive kids and by the end of the school year >they had the apreciation and patience to sit through >a symphony. > >when I like a song, i can play it over and over and over again. > >and again more. In fact, i am not allowed to play a certain sting >abulm in my house.. because otherwise >my husband will trow up. > >so I only play it when he is away. (dream of the blue turtles) > > > , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: >> >> Hi Anouk >> >> I have an album by Liquid Tension Experiment (an offshoot of Dream >Theater) >> which states that the last track (at some 34 minutes long) is " for the >> enjoyment of the people playing.... if you do not like self-indulgent >> widdling, you should not listen to this track " . Personally, I enjoy >it :-) >> >> BB >> Peter >> >> >> - >> " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato >> >> Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 AM >> Re: Ever hear of Trivium? >> >> >> > you mean like santana >> > when they go on forever? >> > >> > yeah, i don't have the patience. >> > i think that kind of playing is for the enjoyer not the enjoyee. >> > >> > , peter VV <swpgh01@> wrote: >> > > >> > > You obviously never tried to play a guitar? or you`d appreciate the >> > skill and techniques of some players. >> > > Personaly, I do not like a lot of noodling, but can appreciate the >> > efforts put into some of it. Some it seems to be there just for the >> > sake of it , or just because its an expected cliche.Some of it is >> > played with a lot of feeling and expression ( blues particularly), >> > some just cold filler (imo).But then again, same could be said for any >> > instrument solos eh? ( 15 minute drum solos leave me cold/asleep ). >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > To send an email to - >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Hi Peter/Anouk Me too - it's like wallowing in a warm, bubbly bath with candles all around - luxurious :-) BB Jo - " Peter " <metalscarab Friday, October 13, 2006 7:13 PM Re: Re: Ever hear of Trivium? > Hi Anouk > > I have an album by Liquid Tension Experiment (an offshoot of Dream Theater) > which states that the last track (at some 34 minutes long) is " for the > enjoyment of the people playing.... if you do not like self-indulgent > widdling, you should not listen to this track " . Personally, I enjoy it :-) > > BB > Peter > > > - > " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato > > Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 AM > Re: Ever hear of Trivium? > > > > you mean like santana > > when they go on forever? > > > > yeah, i don't have the patience. > > i think that kind of playing is for the enjoyer not the enjoyee. > > > > , peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: > > > > > > You obviously never tried to play a guitar? or you`d appreciate the > > skill and techniques of some players. > > > Personaly, I do not like a lot of noodling, but can appreciate the > > efforts put into some of it. Some it seems to be there just for the > > sake of it , or just because its an expected cliche.Some of it is > > played with a lot of feeling and expression ( blues particularly), > > some just cold filler (imo).But then again, same could be said for any > > instrument solos eh? ( 15 minute drum solos leave me cold/asleep ). > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 This isn't the same as the mid seventies - that is just the last time you were aware of anything similar. The genre has moved on and evolved (it is progressive and therefore does not stay in the seventies), just as most other sub genres of metal have. I think the guitar solos etc that you talk about are not the same as the ones we talk about. Jo - peter VV Friday, October 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Ever hear of Trivium? Very honest warning, more of that genre should follow suite.Personally, I think that sort of thing should have faded away in the mid 70`s............... The Valley Vegan..............Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi AnoukI have an album by Liquid Tension Experiment (an offshoot of Dream Theater)which states that the last track (at some 34 minutes long) is "for theenjoyment of the people playing.... if you do not like self-indulgentwiddling, you should not listen to this track". Personally, I enjoy it :-)BBPeter-"Anouk Sickler" Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 AM Re: Ever hear of Trivium?> you mean like santana> when they go on forever?>> yeah, i don't have the patience.> i think that kind of playing is for the enjoyer not the enjoyee.>> , peter VV wrote:> >> > You obviously never tried to play a guitar? or you`d appreciate the> skill and techniques of some players.> > Personaly, I do not like a lot of noodling, but can appreciate the> efforts put into some of it. Some it seems to be there just for the> sake of it , or just because its an expected cliche.Some of it is> played with a lot of feeling and expression ( blues particularly),> some just cold filler (imo).But then again, same could be said for any> instrument solos eh? ( 15 minute drum solos leave me cold/asleep ).>>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 I think you are thinking about something different. The modern progressive metal does not usually have one guitar playing unaccompanied. Admittedly they have fairly long sessions of music with singing or shouting. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, October 13, 2006 9:28 PM Re: Re: Ever hear of Trivium? > personally .. > i don't like songs that go to long... > *shrug* > someone wankin er noodlin on a guitar for ten minutes holds absolutely no interest fer me > > now, as for short attention span, i don't really...hey lets go ride bikes! > > > >flower child <zurumato > >Oct 13, 2006 4:04 PM > > > > Re: Ever hear of Trivium? > > > >i think that some people have short attention span.. > > > >recently a saw a pbs special where a music teacher turned > >around rowdy hyperactive kids and by the end of the school year > >they had the apreciation and patience to sit through > >a symphony. > > > >when I like a song, i can play it over and over and over again. > > > >and again more. In fact, i am not allowed to play a certain sting > >abulm in my house.. because otherwise > >my husband will trow up. > > > >so I only play it when he is away. (dream of the blue turtles) > > > > > > , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: > >> > >> Hi Anouk > >> > >> I have an album by Liquid Tension Experiment (an offshoot of Dream > >Theater) > >> which states that the last track (at some 34 minutes long) is " for the > >> enjoyment of the people playing.... if you do not like self-indulgent > >> widdling, you should not listen to this track " . Personally, I enjoy > >it :-) > >> > >> BB > >> Peter > >> > >> > >> - > >> " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato > >> > >> Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 AM > >> Re: Ever hear of Trivium? > >> > >> > >> > you mean like santana > >> > when they go on forever? > >> > > >> > yeah, i don't have the patience. > >> > i think that kind of playing is for the enjoyer not the enjoyee. > >> > > >> > , peter VV <swpgh01@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > You obviously never tried to play a guitar? or you`d appreciate the > >> > skill and techniques of some players. > >> > > Personaly, I do not like a lot of noodling, but can appreciate the > >> > efforts put into some of it. Some it seems to be there just for the > >> > sake of it , or just because its an expected cliche.Some of it is > >> > played with a lot of feeling and expression ( blues particularly), > >> > some just cold filler (imo).But then again, same could be said for any > >> > instrument solos eh? ( 15 minute drum solos leave me cold/asleep ). > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > To send an email to - > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 You are probably right, we dont listen to the same music do we apart from the odd one or two bands......... The Valley Vegan..............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: This isn't the same as the mid seventies - that is just the last time you were aware of anything similar. The genre has moved on and evolved (it is progressive and therefore does not stay in the seventies), just as most other sub genres of metal have. I think the guitar solos etc that you talk about are not the same as the ones we talk about. Jo - peter VV Friday, October 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Ever hear of Trivium? Very honest warning, more of that genre should follow suite.Personally, I think that sort of thing should have faded away in the mid 70`s............... The Valley Vegan..............Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi AnoukI have an album by Liquid Tension Experiment (an offshoot of Dream Theater)which states that the last track (at some 34 minutes long) is "for theenjoyment of the people playing.... if you do not like self-indulgentwiddling, you should not listen to this track". Personally, I enjoy it :-)BBPeter-"Anouk Sickler" Friday, October 13, 2006 4:52 AM Re: Ever hear of Trivium?> you mean like santana> when they go on forever?>> yeah, i don't have the patience.> i think that kind of playing is for the enjoyer not the enjoyee.>> , peter VV wrote:> >> > You obviously never tried to play a guitar? or you`d appreciate the> skill and techniques of some players.> > Personaly, I do not like a lot of noodling, but can appreciate the> efforts put into some of it. Some it seems to be there just for the> sake of it , or just because its an expected cliche.Some of it is> played with a lot of feeling and expression ( blues particularly),> some just cold filler (imo).But then again, same could be said for any> instrument solos eh? ( 15 minute drum solos leave me cold/asleep ).>>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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