Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal...................... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab Sent: Sunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008  I noticed she lived in south Wales - but doesn't she have a beautiful south English accent ! I think possibly she is an English migrant. Whatever - she did really well. Jo - Peter VV Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:01 PM Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal...................... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab > Sent: Sunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 He,he. Shame China wouldnt acknowledge Wales, only GB. Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork Sent: Sunday, 10 August, 2008 7:48:48 PMRe: Olympics  I noticed she lived in south Wales - but doesn't she have a beautiful south English accent ! I think possibly she is an English migrant. Whatever - she did really well. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:01 PM Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008  I suppose it could have mentioned the English girl who lives in Wales :-) Jo - Peter VV Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:50 PM Re: Olympics He,he. Shame China wouldnt acknowledge Wales, only GB. Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork > Sent: Sunday, 10 August, 2008 7:48:48 PMRe: Olympics  I noticed she lived in south Wales - but doesn't she have a beautiful south English accent ! I think possibly she is an English migrant. Whatever - she did really well. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:01 PM Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008 She obviously has good taste! Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork Sent: Sunday, 10 August, 2008 8:31:17 PMRe: Olympics  I suppose it could have mentioned the English girl who lives in Wales :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:50 PM Re: Olympics He,he. Shame China wouldnt acknowledge Wales, only GB. Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008 7:48:48 PMRe: Olympics  I noticed she lived in south Wales - but doesn't she have a beautiful south English accent ! I think possibly she is an English migrant. Whatever - she did really well. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:01 PM Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2008  :-) We're coming to North Wales for a couple of days soon. Jo - Peter VV Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:01 PM Re: Olympics She obviously has good taste! Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork > Sent: Sunday, 10 August, 2008 8:31:17 PMRe: Olympics  I suppose it could have mentioned the English girl who lives in Wales :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:50 PM Re: Olympics He,he. Shame China wouldnt acknowledge Wales, only GB. Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008 7:48:48 PMRe: Olympics  I noticed she lived in south Wales - but doesn't she have a beautiful south English accent ! I think possibly she is an English migrant. Whatever - she did really well. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:01 PM Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 *confused* well, and drunk as well, but that's besides the point how does Wales win a medal? isn't that like Manitoba winning a medal? missing something in UK political life apparently Peter VV Aug 10, 2008 11:01 AM Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal...................... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab > Sent: Sunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 Hi Fraggle You are right - Wales doesn't win a medal - it's just Peter being silly!!! In the Olympics we are Great Britain. Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, has its own government etc, is Manitoba? do you only go online after a few drinks?... Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 6:13:56 AMRe: Olympics *confused* well, and drunk as well, but that's besides the point how does Wales win a medal? isn't that like Manitoba winning a medal? missing something in UK political life apparently Peter VV Aug 10, 2008 11:01 AM @gro ups.com Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 My sympathies......he,he. Hope the accent doesnt annoy you too much! wherabouts? Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork Sent: Sunday, 10 August, 2008 10:54:04 PMRe: Olympics  :-) We're coming to North Wales for a couple of days soon. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:01 PM Re: Olympics She obviously has good taste! Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008 8:31:17 PMRe: Olympics  I suppose it could have mentioned the English girl who lives in Wales :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:50 PM Re: Olympics He,he. Shame China wouldnt acknowledge Wales, only GB. Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 10 August, 2008 7:48:48 PMRe: Olympics  I noticed she lived in south Wales - but doesn't she have a beautiful south English accent ! I think possibly she is an English migrant. Whatever - she did really well. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:01 PM Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 Whats so Great about it? Whats wrong with being silly? why should I change a habit of a lifetime? Peter vv heartwerk <jo.heartwork Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 7:47:20 AMRe: Olympics Hi FraggleYou are right - Wales doesn't win a medal - it's just Peter being silly!!!In the Olympics we are Great Britain.Jo Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008  Hi Peter > The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, Only when they remember to put it on the maps ;-) I believe the UN recognises The United Kingdom, rather than its constituent parts. > has its own government etc Actually, strictly speaking, it has it's own assembly. It is still governed from London primarily - as is clear by the fact that Welsh MPs sit in the British government! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008  Hi Jo > In the Olympics we are Great Britain. In Scotland, there has been quite some upset caused by the fact that the Chinese Olympic committee has banned the waving of all flags which are not the national flags of countries with an olympic committee.... as such, Scottish and Welsh national flags have been banned from the stadiums!!!! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 OK got me there, in the minds and hearts of every Welsh man we are a seperate country. And as for China banning the flags? well, freedom to do anything doesnt realy exist in China does it?especially at high profile events. I wonder how many Chinese government payroll staff are in the audience there or on the sidelines.............. Peter vv Peter <metalscarab Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 8:27:24 AMRe: Olympics  Hi Peter > The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, Only when they remember to put it on the maps ;-) I believe the UN recognises The United Kingdom, rather than its constituent parts. > has its own government etc Actually, strictly speaking, it has it's own assembly. It is still governed from London primarily - as is clear by the fact that Welsh MPs sit in the British government! BB Peter Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 Even if Wales were a separate country, it doesn't have an Olympic Committee so whatever the UN may say, you're going to struggle to get the IOC to recognise athletes as " Welsh " . On 8/11/08, Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: OK got me there, in the minds and hearts of every Welsh man we are a seperate country. And as for China banning the flags? well, freedom to do anything doesnt realy exist in China does it?especially at high profile events. I wonder how many Chinese government payroll staff are in the audience there or on the sidelines.............. Peter vv Peter <metalscarab Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 8:27:24 AMRe: Olympics  Hi Peter > The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, Only when they remember to put it on the maps ;-) I believe the UN recognises The United Kingdom, rather than its constituent parts. > has its own government etc Actually, strictly speaking, it has it's own assembly. It is still governed from London primarily - as is clear by the fact that Welsh MPs sit in the British government! BB Peter Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at -- Ms Madeline J Anderson t: 01242 861269m: 07881 623654e: maddy.anderson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 D`oh! Peter vv Gayalondiel <gayalondiel Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 11:48:39 AMRe: Olympics Even if Wales were a separate country, it doesn't have an Olympic Committee so whatever the UN may say, you're going to struggle to get the IOC to recognise athletes as "Welsh". On 8/11/08, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote: OK got me there, in the minds and hearts of every Welsh man we are a seperate country. And as for China banning the flags? well, freedom to do anything doesnt realy exist in China does it?especially at high profile events. I wonder how many Chinese government payroll staff are in the audience there or on the sidelines... ......... .. Peter vv Peter <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comMonday, 11 August, 2008 8:27:24 AMRe: Olympics  Hi Peter > The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, Only when they remember to put it on the maps ;-) I believe the UN recognises The United Kingdom, rather than its constituent parts. > has its own government etc Actually, strictly speaking, it has it's own assembly. It is still governed from London primarily - as is clear by the fact that Welsh MPs sit in the British government! BB Peter Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at -- Ms Madeline J Andersont: 01242 861269m: 07881 623654e: maddy.anderson@ gmail.com Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 what few? i drank all afternoon... up in the marin headlands... and, not drinking now...but since you mentioned it,..... Peter VV Aug 10, 2008 11:48 PM Re: Olympics The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, has its own government etc, is Manitoba? do you only go online after a few drinks?... Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 6:13:56 AMRe: Olympics *confused* well, and drunk as well, but that's besides the point how does Wales win a medal? isn't that like Manitoba winning a medal? missing something in UK political life apparently Peter VV Aug 10, 2008 11:01 AM @gro ups.com Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 because "swell" or "nifty" britian doesn't roll off the toungue as well Peter VV Aug 10, 2008 11:59 PM Re: Olympics Whats so Great about it? Whats wrong with being silly? why should I change a habit of a lifetime? Peter vv heartwerk <jo.heartwork > Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 7:47:20 AMRe: Olympics Hi FraggleYou are right - Wales doesn't win a medal - it's just Peter being silly!!!In the Olympics we are Great Britain.Jo Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 china doesn't want to encourage the folks in Tibet or Eastern Turkestan Peter VV Aug 11, 2008 1:39 AM Re: Olympics OK got me there, in the minds and hearts of every Welsh man we are a seperate country. And as for China banning the flags? well, freedom to do anything doesnt realy exist in China does it?especially at high profile events. I wonder how many Chinese government payroll staff are in the audience there or on the sidelines.............. Peter vv Peter <metalscarab > Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 8:27:24 AMRe: Olympics  Hi Peter > The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, Only when they remember to put it on the maps ;-) I believe the UN recognises The United Kingdom, rather than its constituent parts. > has its own government etc Actually, strictly speaking, it has it's own assembly. It is still governed from London primarily - as is clear by the fact that Welsh MPs sit in the British government! BB Peter Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008  England is also a country in it's own right, but in the Olympics we all compete for Great Britain - get used to it! Jo - Peter VV Monday, August 11, 2008 7:48 AM Re: Olympics The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, has its own government etc, is Manitoba? do you only go online after a few drinks?... Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 6:13:56 AMRe: Olympics *confused* well, and drunk as well, but that's besides the point how does Wales win a medal? isn't that like Manitoba winning a medal? missing something in UK political life apparently Peter VV Aug 10, 2008 11:01 AM @gro ups.com Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008 Never! Peter vv jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 10:07:44 PMRe: Olympics  England is also a country in it's own right, but in the Olympics we all compete for Great Britain - get used to it! Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Monday, August 11, 2008 7:48 AM Re: Olympics The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, has its own government etc, is Manitoba? do you only go online after a few drinks?... Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comMonday, 11 August, 2008 6:13:56 AMRe: Olympics *confused* well, and drunk as well, but that's besides the point how does Wales win a medal? isn't that like Manitoba winning a medal? missing something in UK political life apparently Peter VV Aug 10, 2008 11:01 AM @gro ups.com Re: Olympics Yay, Wales has won its fist olympic Gold Medal....... ......... ...... Peter vv Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comSunday, 27 July, 2008 10:40:08 PMRe: help please Jo & Peter Hi PeterBeen to Avebury loads of times... depends on what sort of things you like....It's basically a smallish village in the middle of a very large stone circle. There's unfortunately a road that goes through the middle of the stone circle, so you have to cross over a couple of times to see the whole site. In one part there's a sort of central circle with slightly smaller stones, the outer stones are pretty huge (similar sort of size to Stonehenge, but much less regular in shape). Around the whole site is a ditch & small hill, which you can walk around the top of, and a few nice little treed areas. There's also "the avenue" which is an avenue (surprisingly) of stones which leads away from (or towards, depending on where you start!) the circle.In the village, there's the inevitable tourist gift shop, filled with crystals, sheil-na-gigs, new-agey magazines, postcards, etc. and a pub which I wouldn't recommend eating in unless you enjoy getting your food served either half cooked, or not served at all! I have no idea what their drinks are like, as I've never been back in there after twice being disappointed by their food. There *is*, however, a wonderful little veggie cafe called "Stones" (I think... although it might be "The Circle" now), which normally has a few vegan options.Oh, and if you're lucky, there are sometimes some sheep inside the circle! :-)BBPeter 2008/7/27 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> I am going to Center Parcs in Wiltshire for a week tomorrow, and am keen ( wife & kidspermitting ) to go to Avebury. Have you ever been? whats it like? Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008  It is greater than the sum of its parts, presumably. Jo - Peter VV Monday, August 11, 2008 7:59 AM Re: Olympics Whats so Great about it? Whats wrong with being silly? why should I change a habit of a lifetime? Peter vv heartwerk <jo.heartwork > Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 7:47:20 AMRe: Olympics Hi FraggleYou are right - Wales doesn't win a medal - it's just Peter being silly!!!In the Olympics we are Great Britain.Jo Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008  Well, I suppose if there are to be rules, that is the way it should be. I suspect the ahtletes get some financial aid from the British or English. Maybe we English should be more separatist - what do you reckon? BBJo - Peter Monday, August 11, 2008 8:29 AM Re: Olympics  Hi Jo > In the Olympics we are Great Britain. In Scotland, there has been quite some upset caused by the fact that the Chinese Olympic committee has banned the waving of all flags which are not the national flags of countries with an olympic committee.... as such, Scottish and Welsh national flags have been banned from the stadiums!!!! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008  The trouble is we are not separate countries - our politics and finances are entwined. I might not like it any more than you do. You are always so busy thinking that you are Welsh and separate and that the English want to hang on to you - well maybe it's not true - maybe we'd like to get you off our backs! Now - I'm not saying that this is what I think, and I'm not saying I don't think it - because the fact is it doesn't make any difference what I think, or what you think - we are all British. There must be better things for you to rail against, than being part of Great Britain. Jo - Peter VV Monday, August 11, 2008 9:39 AM Re: Olympics OK got me there, in the minds and hearts of every Welsh man we are a seperate country. And as for China banning the flags? well, freedom to do anything doesnt realy exist in China does it?especially at high profile events. I wonder how many Chinese government payroll staff are in the audience there or on the sidelines.............. Peter vv Peter <metalscarab > Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 8:27:24 AMRe: Olympics  Hi Peter > The swimmer is from Wales, ( crap I knew this would backfire ) Wales is recognised by the EU as a seperate nation, Only when they remember to put it on the maps ;-) I believe the UN recognises The United Kingdom, rather than its constituent parts. > has its own government etc Actually, strictly speaking, it has it's own assembly. It is still governed from London primarily - as is clear by the fact that Welsh MPs sit in the British government! BB Peter Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2008  LOL! Jo - fraggle Monday, August 11, 2008 5:32 PM Re: Olympics because "swell" or "nifty" britian doesn't roll off the toungue as well Peter VV Aug 10, 2008 11:59 PM Re: Olympics Whats so Great about it? Whats wrong with being silly? why should I change a habit of a lifetime? Peter vv heartwerk <jo.heartwork > Sent: Monday, 11 August, 2008 7:47:20 AMRe: Olympics Hi FraggleYou are right - Wales doesn't win a medal - it's just Peter being silly!!!In the Olympics we are Great Britain.Jo Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
