Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Hi Anouk > ok, > why is it so difficult to say that anything good > comes out of america? It was a bit of " friendly banter " ... partly connected to the recent comments suggesting that everything good comes out of America... in the same way that Peter Hurd sometimes makes comments about England, and we do about Wales in return :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Hi Peter > But surely you *haven't* come out of America? You're still there :-) Potatoes are still here too... Besides, I " came out " of America when I was 12 for the summer and lived in London with brief visits to Paris and Ireland. And one of my twins is still there! Does that not count? BB Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 and ... he didn't say no good people come out of America :-) Jo - " Peter " <metalscarab Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:43 PM Re: Re: American food > Hi Nikki > > > Well seeing you " found " me over 3 years ago and " found " Fraggle who > > knows how long ago and how many others on this group that " come out of > > America " . > > > > But no, potatoes are what you remark on. POTATOES! > > But surely you *haven't* come out of America? You're still there :-) > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Dda iawn Anouk. The nearest translation to Peter in Welsh is Pedr.Couldnt find one for Anouk sorry. Welsh does have a habit of adopting english words until they become "Wenglish" Wales does have a thriving music scene, with loads of Welsh speaking bands, and some that release in both languages. If you get a chance give Super Furry Animals a listen. They have released in both languages, and their song writing is so good in either language. Sorry, Iam going on a bit aren`t I! The Valley Vegan......... A ddarlenno, ysteried Let him who reads reflect Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: helo peter, sut dach chi? oes, mae'n braf, Iawn.dw i'n licio gymraeg.-anouk , peter hurd wrote:> Hold on there bald eagle, The friendly banter ( and it is friendlybanter ) started as a joke between me and Fraggle ( probably drunk inDenver ). There was no malicious intent, indeed it started with atirade from the hirsuite one about British food.> I never once said nothing good has ever come out of the US of A,merely provoking a response ( which is something I like to do a lot tomake sure you are all paying attention ), after you started to claimmost of the 20th Centuries inventions were from America ( which sevralposts later were proved not to be exactly true).> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Hi Nikki > Potatoes are still here too... > Besides, I " came out " of America when I was 12 for the summer and > lived in London with brief visits to Paris and Ireland. And one of my > twins is still there! Does that not count? Potatoes have come out of America on a much more permanent basis... but I guess that if you left a twin behind, then that could put you in the same class as the potatoes :-). Unless of course, it's an evil twin, in which case it's probably not a good thing to have come out of America :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Hi Peter > The nearest translation to Peter in Welsh is Pedr.Couldnt find one for Anouk sorry. Welsh does have a habit of adopting > english words until they become "Wenglish" Such as "cwestion" :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I will (super furry animals), check them out! , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > Dda iawn Anouk. > The nearest translation to Peter in Welsh is Pedr.Couldnt find one for Anouk sorry. Welsh does have a habit of adopting english words until they become " Wenglish " > Wales does have a thriving music scene, with loads of Welsh speaking bands, and some that release in both languages. > If you get a chance give Super Furry Animals a listen. They have released in both languages, and their song writing is so good in either language. > Sorry, Iam going on a bit aren`t I! > > The Valley Vegan......... > > A ddarlenno, ysteried Let him who reads reflect > > > Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> wrote: > helo peter, > sut dach chi? > oes, mae'n braf, Iawn. > dw i'n licio gymraeg. > > -anouk > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hi Nikki, are you really a twin? I always thought that was neat! , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > Potatoes are still here too... > > Besides, I " came out " of America when I was 12 for the summer and > > lived in London with brief visits to Paris and Ireland. And one of my > > twins is still there! Does that not count? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I was just thinking/wondering that Gwynetth Paltrow has a welsh name? -- In , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > Hi Peter > > > The nearest translation to Peter in Welsh is Pedr.Couldnt find one for Anouk sorry. Welsh does have a habit of adopting > > english words until they become " Wenglish " > > Such as " cwestion " :-) > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hi Jo Ok, if you'll vouch for him I suppose I'll have to let this one go! BB Nikki , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > and ... he didn't say no good people come out of America :-) > > Jo > > - > " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> > > Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:43 PM > Re: Re: American food > > > > Hi Nikki > > > > > Well seeing you " found " me over 3 years ago and " found " Fraggle who > > > knows how long ago and how many others on this group that " come out of > > > America " . > > > > > > But no, potatoes are what you remark on. POTATOES! > > > > But surely you *haven't* come out of America? You're still there :-) > > > > BB > > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Just call me spud Of course I would never have left an evil twin there, I was an " innocent " at age 12. Still am... BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > Potatoes are still here too... > > Besides, I " came out " of America when I was 12 for the summer and > > lived in London with brief visits to Paris and Ireland. And one of my > > twins is still there! Does that not count? > > Potatoes have come out of America on a much more permanent basis... but I > guess that if you left a twin behind, then that could put you in the same > class as the potatoes :-). Unless of course, it's an evil twin, in which > case it's probably not a good thing to have come out of America :-) > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Oh garsh no, sorry to disappoint. Actually many moons ago Peter and I created an " Evil Twin " program. Since then we've made some major developments with them. But they are quite convenient for getting out of sticky situations I must say! I've always found twins and multiples fascinating myself. Nikki , " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > Hi Nikki, > > are you really a twin? > I always thought that was neat! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hi Spud :-) > Just call me spud > Of course I would never have left an evil twin there, I was > an " innocent " at age 12. Still am... OK, who are you, and what did you do with Nikki ??? :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Dont know , Gwynedd is a county in Wales - sounds similar.According to the 2001 Census, 80% of young people (between the ages of 3 and 15) in Gwynedd speak Welsh. this means that Welsh is still the first language, the home language, of almost everyone who lives there. List of Kings/Princes Cunedda Wledig ap Edern (Cunedda the Imperator) (c.450-c.460) Einion Yrth ap Cunedda (Einion the Impetuous) (c.470-c.480) Cadwallon Lawhir ap Einion (Cadwallon Long Hand) (c.500-c.534) Maelgwn Hir ap Cadwallon (Maelgwn the Tall) (c.520-c.547) Rhun Hir ap Maelgwn (Rhun the Tall) (c.547-c.580) Beli ap Rhun (c.580-c.599) Iago ap Beli (c.599-c.613) Cadfan ap Iago (c.613-c.625) Cadwallon ap Cadfan (c.620-634) Cadafael Cadomedd ap Cynfeddw (Cadfael the Battle-Shirker) (634-c.655) Cadwaladr Fendigaid ap Cadwallon (Cadwallader the Blessed) (c.655-c.682) Idwal Iwrch ap Cadwaladr (Idwal Roebuck) (c.682-c.720) Rhodri Molwynog ap Idwal (Rhodri the Bald and Gray) (c.720-c.754) Caradog ap Meirion (c.754-c.798) Cynan Dindaethwy ap Rhodri (c.798-816) Hywel Farf-Fehinog ab Caradog (Howell Greasy-Beard) (814-825) Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad (Merfyn the Freckled) (825-844) Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn (Rhodri the Great) (844-878) Anarawd ap Rhodri (878-916) Idwal Foel ab Anarawd (Idwal the Bald) (916-942) Hywel Dda ap Cadell (Howell the Good) (942-950) Iago ab Idwal (950-979) Ieuaf ab Idwal (950-969) Hywel ab Ieuaf (974-985) Cadwallon ab Ieuaf (985-986) Maredudd ab Owain (986-999) Cynan ap Hywel (999-1005) Aeddan ap Blegywryd (1005-1018) Llywelyn ap Seisyll (1018-1023) Iago ap Idwal ap Meurig (1023-1039) Gruffydd ap Llywelyn (1039-1063) Bleddyn ap Cynfyn (1063-1075) Rhiwallon ap Cynfyn (1063-1070) Trahaearn ap Caradog (1075-1081) Gruffydd ap Cynan (1081-1137) Owain Gwynedd ap Gruffydd (1137-1170) Maelgwn ab Owain (1170-1173) Dafydd ab Owain Gwynedd (1170-1195) (in the east) Rhodri ab Owain Gwynedd (1170-1190) (in the west) Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth (Llywelyn the Great) (1195-1240) Dafydd ap Llywelyn (1240-1246) Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf ap Gruffydd (Llywelyn the Last) (1246-1282) Owain Goch ap Gruffydd (Owain the Red) (1246-1255) Dafydd ap Gruffydd (1282-1283) Following the death of Llywelyn ap Gruffydd in 1282, and of his brother Dafydd ap Gruffydd the following year, eight centuries of independent rule by the house of Gwynedd came to an end, and the kingdom, which had long been one of the final holdouts to total English domination of Wales, was absorbed in the kingdom of Edward I, though Owain Lawgoch the great-nephew of Llywelyn ap Gruffydd claimed the throne and planned invasions from France in 1372 and 1377. An exception can be made for the Gwynedd-based rebellion of Owain Glyndŵr (1359-c.1416) The Valley Vegan................ Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: I was just thinking/wonderingthat Gwynetth Paltrow has a welsh name?-- In , "Peter" wrote:> Hi Peter> > > The nearest translation to Peter in Welsh is Pedr.Couldnt find onefor Anouk sorry. Welsh does have a habit of adopting> > english words until they become "Wenglish"> > Such as "cwestion" :-)> > BB> Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hi Peter > OK, who are you, and what did you do with Nikki ??? :-) Nikki who? BB Innocent Spud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hi Nikki > Oh garsh no, sorry to disappoint. Actually many moons ago Peter and > I created an " Evil Twin " program. Since then we've made some major > developments with them. > But they are quite convenient for getting out of sticky situations I > must say! Hey - don't tell everyone about the prototype lines... we don't want the competition getting hold of the ideas... :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi Peter > Hey - don't tell everyone about the prototype lines... we don't want the > competition getting hold of the ideas... :-) I'm pretty sure they know by now. But I will be careful I promise! But at least our fail-safe methods of the scramblers and the long range self-destruct mechanisms have worked out well! BB Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi Spud > Nikki who? Knock, knock. Hang on, I think I'm telling this joke backwards :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi Nikki > > Hey - don't tell everyone about the prototype lines... we don't want the > > competition getting hold of the ideas... :-) > I'm pretty sure they know by now. But I will be careful I promise! I doubt it... we've kept things under wraps pretty well... what with all that false information we've been putting out. > But at least our fail-safe methods of the scramblers and the long > range self-destruct mechanisms have worked out well! Yes - I was impressed by the field tests... all except for that incident in St Petersburgh, which we really could have done without. Still, those evil twins we've got working in the PR department did a great job, and I think we got away without too many people looking in our direction. BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 My mom is a twin, but her twin died in childbirth. She says she's always felt like half of her is gone and thinks it was her better half. My eldest daughter has twins and I've cursed my middle daughter with trippletts. My eldest daughter lives in another state and I told my middle daughter she was gonna have trippletts so that there would be one for each of the grannies to hold and one for her too, but it would be too much work to be alone so that she would have to stay close to me. Her ex believed it so much he didn't want to do anything that would cause her to get in that condition. She realized then that having a family is pretty important, so if it wasn't to him, he might not be the best choice for her.earthstrm <nikkimack wrote: Oh garsh no, sorry to disappoint. Actually many moons ago Peter and I created an "Evil Twin" program. Since then we've made some major developments with them.But they are quite convenient for getting out of sticky situations I must say!I've always found twins and multiples fascinating myself.Nikki , "Anouk Sickler" <zurumato@e...> wrote:> Hi Nikki,> > are you really a twin?> I always thought that was neat!> > Jonnie for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 LOL BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > Hi Spud > > > Nikki who? > > Knock, knock. > > Hang on, I think I'm telling this joke backwards :-) > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi Peter > Yes - I was impressed by the field tests... all except for that incident in > St Petersburgh, which we really could have done without. Still, those evil > twins we've got working in the PR department did a great job, and I think we > got away without too many people looking in our direction. *cringe* Must you bring that back up again! BB Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Hi Nikki > *cringe* > Must you bring that back up again! Well, I didn't think it would do any harm at this stage... and it is something we shouldn't forget... after all, we did learn a *lot* from the results obtained, even if it wasn't the most pleasant thing to have happened. BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Hi Peter > Well, I didn't think it would do any harm at this stage... and it is > something we shouldn't forget... after all, we did learn a *lot* from the > results obtained, even if it wasn't the most pleasant thing to have > happened. I know and you're right. It just is still so heartbreaking. The look on your face at the time mirrored mine. BB Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Hi Nikki > I know and you're right. It just is still so heartbreaking. The look > on your face at the time mirrored mine. Well, yes... horrific doesn't come close, but still, we can at least console ourselves with the improvements that came about as a result. BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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