Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several dozen with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There are 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart from the areas immediately affected. One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster had to happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was meant to be discussed. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Hi Jo Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened. Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only strengthens his constant shouts that we have to " fight the terror " . And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say " we have to be viligent " I am going to scream! (again) They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders, Homeland Security and various other " leaders " on the news all day yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word " viligant " 6 times in 10 seconds! BB Nikki , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several dozen > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There are > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart from > the areas immediately affected. > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster had to > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > meant to be discussed. > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Hi Nikki That's what they are saying here too. Anyone would think it is the first bomb we've ever had! We had years of being searched going into places like museums etc. in case we were IRA bombers, and because of bombs put in waste bins it was always a bit worrying walking along the street by bins, until they removed all the bins, of course. The bombings are a terrible thing - but unfortunately one of many terrible things that happen. Jo , " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack@m...> wrote: > Hi Jo > > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened. > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to " fight the terror " . > > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say " we have to be > viligent " I am going to scream! (again) > > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders, > Homeland Security and various other " leaders " on the news all day > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word " viligant " 6 > times in 10 seconds! > > BB > Nikki > > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several > dozen > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There > are > > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart > from > > the areas immediately affected. > > > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster > had to > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > > meant to be discussed. > > > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Why, oh why, didn't Blair show Dumbya around London. I think him instead of the dozens would be a fair trade and world improvement! Lynda - heartwerk <heartwork Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:46 PM London bombs > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several dozen > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There are > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart from > the areas immediately affected. > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster had to > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > meant to be discussed. > > Jo To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 A friend is as beyond irritated at the use of that word and the constant " we are at war " as I am. She did put something up on her blog, partially because she is irritated and partically because she was raised in London and quite upset. What she has to say to Fox news says it all! Here's the link: http://happy_as_kings.typepad.com/happy_as_kings/ Lynda - nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack Friday, July 08, 2005 3:50 AM Re: London bombs > Hi Jo > > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened. > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to " fight the terror " . > > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say " we have to be > viligent " I am going to scream! (again) > > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders, > Homeland Security and various other " leaders " on the news all day > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word " viligant " 6 > times in 10 seconds! > > BB > Nikki > > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several > dozen > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There > are > > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart > from > > the areas immediately affected. > > > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster > had to > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > > meant to be discussed. > > > > Jo > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 i ought to forward wot they were saying on FOX yesterday but..i persoanlly don't know if ya'll need to scream at yer monitors and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this bombing... fraggle nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack Jul 8, 2005 6:50 AM Re: London bombs Hi Jo Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened. Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only strengthens his constant shouts that we have to " fight the terror " . And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say " we have to be viligent " I am going to scream! (again) They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders, Homeland Security and various other " leaders " on the news all day yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word " viligant " 6 times in 10 seconds! BB Nikki , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several dozen > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There are > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart from > the areas immediately affected. > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster had to > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > meant to be discussed. > > Jo To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Ah, is it possible for the folks on the other side of the pond to drown or otherwise " deal with " Christopher Hitchins? He is every bit as big an ass as O'Lie Lee and Dumbya! Lynda - fraggle <EBbrewpunx Friday, July 08, 2005 12:59 PM Re: Re: London bombs > i ought to forward wot they were saying on FOX yesterday > but..i persoanlly don't know if ya'll need to scream at yer monitors > > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this bombing... > fraggle > > > nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack > Jul 8, 2005 6:50 AM > > Re: London bombs > > Hi Jo > > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened. > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to " fight the terror " . > > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say " we have to be > viligent " I am going to scream! (again) > > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders, > Homeland Security and various other " leaders " on the news all day > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word " viligant " 6 > times in 10 seconds! > > BB > Nikki > > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several > dozen > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There > are > > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart > from > > the areas immediately affected. > > > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster > had to > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > > meant to be discussed. > > > > Jo > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Hi Fraggle Forward it if you like. We won't mind. BB Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, July 08, 2005 8:59 PM Re: Re: London bombs > i ought to forward wot they were saying on FOX yesterday > but..i persoanlly don't know if ya'll need to scream at yer monitors > > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this bombing... > fraggle > > > nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack > Jul 8, 2005 6:50 AM > > Re: London bombs > > Hi Jo > > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened. > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to " fight the terror " . > > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say " we have to be > viligent " I am going to scream! (again) > > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders, > Homeland Security and various other " leaders " on the news all day > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word " viligant " 6 > times in 10 seconds! > > BB > Nikki > > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several > dozen > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There > are > > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart > from > > the areas immediately affected. > > > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster > had to > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > > meant to be discussed. > > > > Jo > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 try not to scream at the monitor to much FOX News Hosts Celebrate London Attacks During their coverage of the breaking news events yesterday, several FOX News hosts or reporters made comments that are raising some eyebrows. The network's Washington Managing Editor Brit Hume told host Shepard Smith, that when he heard about the London bombings, he saw it as an investment opportunity: " I mean, my first thought when I heard -- just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, " Hmmm, time to buy. " Others may have thought that as well. " Meanwhile, one of the network's anchors, Brian Kilmeade, said the attacks worked to the Western world's advantage and he blasted the international gathering at the G8 for focusing on global warming and African aid instead of terrorism. Here is some of what he said right after Tony Blair spoke yesterday. This is FOX anchor Brian Kilmeade talking to another FOX's Paul Varney: KILMEADE: And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened. " VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right at the point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warming off the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again. KILMEADE: Yeah. FOX News hosts Brian Kilmeade and Paul Varney, speaking yesterday on FOX. Jo Cwazy <heartwork Jul 8, 2005 5:36 PM Re: Re: London bombs Hi Fraggle Forward it if you like. We won't mind. BB Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, July 08, 2005 8:59 PM Re: Re: London bombs > i ought to forward wot they were saying on FOX yesterday > but..i persoanlly don't know if ya'll need to scream at yer monitors > > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this bombing... > fraggle > > > nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack > Jul 8, 2005 6:50 AM > > Re: London bombs > > Hi Jo > > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened. > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to " fight the terror " . > > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say " we have to be > viligent " I am going to scream! (again) > > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders, > Homeland Security and various other " leaders " on the news all day > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word " viligant " 6 > times in 10 seconds! > > BB > Nikki > > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > wrote: > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several > dozen > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There > are > > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart > from > > the areas immediately affected. > > > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster > had to > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > > meant to be discussed. > > > > Jo > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Thanks Fraggle. This doesn't surprise me. I am hoping that they have midjudged the general feelings. While watching the news last night the feeling that seemed to surface more often than others was - that our governments have brought the terrorist attacks on us, and that if the west stopped interfering in the Arab countries we would be less likely to be targets. At first I thought that George Galloway would be the only one to say it, but he wasn't. Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Friday, July 08, 2005 11:47 PM Re: Re: London bombs > try not to scream at the monitor to much > > > FOX News Hosts Celebrate London Attacks > During their coverage of the breaking news events yesterday, several FOX News hosts or reporters made comments that are raising some eyebrows. The network's Washington Managing Editor Brit Hume told host Shepard Smith, that when he heard about the London bombings, he saw it as an investment opportunity: > > > " I mean, my first thought when I heard -- just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, " Hmmm, time to buy. " Others may have thought that as well. " > > Meanwhile, one of the network's anchors, Brian Kilmeade, said the attacks worked to the Western world's advantage and he blasted the international gathering at the G8 for focusing on global warming and African aid instead of terrorism. Here is some of what he said right after Tony Blair spoke yesterday. This is FOX anchor Brian Kilmeade talking to another FOX's Paul Varney: > > KILMEADE: And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened. " > VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right at the point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warming off the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again. > > KILMEADE: Yeah. > > FOX News hosts Brian Kilmeade and Paul Varney, speaking yesterday on FOX. > > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork > Jul 8, 2005 5:36 PM > > Re: Re: London bombs > > Hi Fraggle > > Forward it if you like. We won't mind. > > BB > Jo > > - > " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx > > Friday, July 08, 2005 8:59 PM > Re: Re: London bombs > > > > i ought to forward wot they were saying on FOX yesterday > > but..i persoanlly don't know if ya'll need to scream at yer monitors > > > > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this > bombing... > > fraggle > > > > > > nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack > > Jul 8, 2005 6:50 AM > > > > Re: London bombs > > > > Hi Jo > > > > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened. > > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only > > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to " fight the terror " . > > > > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say " we have to be > > viligent " I am going to scream! (again) > > > > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders, > > Homeland Security and various other " leaders " on the news all day > > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word " viligant " 6 > > times in 10 seconds! > > > > BB > > Nikki > > > > > > , " heartwerk " <heartwork@c...> > > wrote: > > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several > > dozen > > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There > > are > > > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart > > from > > > the areas immediately affected. > > > > > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster > > had to > > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was > > > meant to be discussed. > > > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Now, Now, a life is a life,................no matter how dumb the animal........... Apologies at making a joke about this horrific situation, we Brits tend to do that at times of stress. The Valley Vegan......Lynda <lurine wrote: Why, oh why, didn't Blair show Dumbya around London. I think him instead ofthe dozens would be a fair trade and world improvement!Lynda-heartwerk Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:46 PM London bombs> Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several dozen> with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There are> 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart from> the areas immediately affected.>> One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster had to> happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was> meant to be discussed.>> Jo>>>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 This countrys not so morally squeeky clean either, I heard that on the day the local hotels when confornted by hundreds of people unable to travel,seeking accomodation for the night , responded by hiking up their prices.......things like that make me so angry, I just have to listen to Rage Against The Machine at extreme volume! The Valley Vegan..........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: Thanks Fraggle.This doesn't surprise me. I am hoping that they have midjudged the generalfeelings. While watching the news last night the feeling that seemed tosurface more often than others was - that our governments have brought theterrorist attacks on us, and that if the west stopped interfering in theArab countries we would be less likely to be targets. At first I thoughtthat George Galloway would be the only one to say it, but he wasn't.Jo-"fraggle" Friday, July 08, 2005 11:47 PMRe: Re: London bombs> try not to scream at the monitor to much>>> FOX News Hosts Celebrate London Attacks> During their coverage of the breaking news events yesterday, several FOXNews hosts or reporters made comments that are raising some eyebrows. Thenetwork's Washington Managing Editor Brit Hume told host Shepard Smith, thatwhen he heard about the London bombings, he saw it as an investmentopportunity:>>> "I mean, my first thought when I heard -- just on a personal basis, when Iheard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, whichwere really in the tank, I thought, "Hmmm, time to buy." Others may havethought that as well.">> Meanwhile, one of the network's anchors, Brian Kilmeade, said the attacksworked to the Western world's advantage and he blasted the internationalgathering at the G8 for focusing on global warming and African aid insteadof terrorism. Here is some of what he said right after Tony Blair spokeyesterday. This is FOX anchor Brian Kilmeade talking to another FOX's PaulVarney:>> KILMEADE: And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know,and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's importantfor them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in theWestern world's advantage, for people to experience something like thistogether, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened."> VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right atthe point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warmingoff the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticksterrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.>> KILMEADE: Yeah.>> FOX News hosts Brian Kilmeade and Paul Varney, speaking yesterday on FOX.>> > Jo Cwazy > Jul 8, 2005 5:36 PM> > Re: Re: London bombs>> Hi Fraggle>> Forward it if you like. We won't mind.>> BB> Jo>> -> "fraggle" > > Friday, July 08, 2005 8:59 PM> Re: Re: London bombs>>> > i ought to forward wot they were saying on FOX yesterday> > but..i persoanlly don't know if ya'll need to scream at yer monitors> >> > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this> bombing...> > fraggle> >> > > > nikki_mackovitch > > Jul 8, 2005 6:50 AM> > > > Re: London bombs> >> > Hi Jo> >> > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened.> > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only> > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to "fight the terror".> >> > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say "we have to be> > viligent" I am going to scream! (again)> >> > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders,> > Homeland Security and various other "leaders" on the news all day> > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word "viligant" 6> > times in 10 seconds!> >> > BB> > Nikki> >> >> > , "heartwerk" > > wrote:> > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several> > dozen> > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There> > are> > > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart> > from> > > the areas immediately affected.> > >> > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster> > had to> > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was> > > meant to be discussed.> > >> > > Jo> >> >> >> >> > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I used to listen to The Exploited when I felt cross. Jo - peter hurd Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:16 PM Re: Re: London bombs This countrys not so morally squeeky clean either, I heard that on the day the local hotels when confornted by hundreds of people unable to travel,seeking accomodation for the night , responded by hiking up their prices.......things like that make me so angry, I just have to listen to Rage Against The Machine at extreme volume! The Valley Vegan..........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: Thanks Fraggle.This doesn't surprise me. I am hoping that they have midjudged the generalfeelings. While watching the news last night the feeling that seemed tosurface more often than others was - that our governments have brought theterrorist attacks on us, and that if the west stopped interfering in theArab countries we would be less likely to be targets. At first I thoughtthat George Galloway would be the only one to say it, but he wasn't.Jo-"fraggle" Friday, July 08, 2005 11:47 PMRe: Re: London bombs> try not to scream at the monitor to much>>> FOX News Hosts Celebrate London Attacks> During their coverage of the breaking news events yesterday, several FOXNews hosts or reporters made comments that are raising some eyebrows. Thenetwork's Washington Managing Editor Brit Hume told host Shepard Smith, thatwhen he heard about the London bombings, he saw it as an investmentopportunity:>>> "I mean, my first thought when I heard -- just on a personal basis, when Iheard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, whichwere really in the tank, I thought, "Hmmm, time to buy." Others may havethought that as well.">> Meanwhile, one of the network's anchors, Brian Kilmeade, said the attacksworked to the Western world's advantage and he blasted the internationalgathering at the G8 for focusing on global warming and African aid insteadof terrorism. Here is some of what he said right after Tony Blair spokeyesterday. This is FOX anchor Brian Kilmeade talking to another FOX's PaulVarney:>> KILMEADE: And that was the first time since 9-11 w hen they should know,and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's importantfor them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in theWestern world's advantage, for people to experience something like thistogether, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened."> VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right atthe point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warmingoff the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticksterrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.>> KILMEADE: Yeah.>> FOX News hosts Brian Kilmeade and Paul Varney, speaking yesterday on FOX.>> > Jo Cwazy > Jul 8, 2005 5:36 PM> > Re: Re: London bombs>> Hi Fraggle>> Forward it if you like. We won't mind.>> BB> Jo>> -> "fraggle" > > Friday, July 08, 2005 8:59 PM> Re: Re: London bombs>>> > i ought to forward wot they were saying on FOX yesterday> > but..i persoanlly don't know if ya'll need to scream at yer monitors> >> > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this> bombing...> > fraggle> >> > > > nikki_mackovitch > > Jul 8, 2005 6:50 AM> > > > Re: London bombs> >> > Hi Jo> >> > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened.> > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only> > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to "fight the terror".> >> > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say "we have to be> > viligent" I am going to scream! (again)> >> > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders,> > Homeland Security and various other "leaders" on the news all day> > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word "viligant" 6> > times in 10 seconds!> >> > BB> > Nikki> >> >> > , "heartwerk" > > wrote:> > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several> > dozen> > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There> > are> & g t; > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart> > from> > > the areas immediately affected.> > >> > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster> > had to> > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was> > > meant to be discussed.> > >> > > Jo> >> >> >> >> > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hi Fraggle > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this bombing... Please share (if you're not happy to do it on the list, then at least to me, because I doubt you'll be far from what I'm thinking)... For what it's worth, I will share my thoughts: I'm going to say some pretty controversial stuff on this, but I reckon since it's happened in the country I live in, in tube stations which I've passed through a number of times, and in a town which I lived within 20 miles of for the first 30 years of my life, and in which I have a number of friends and family, I think I can do so without being criticised of not caring about the people affected. It strikes me that this has been timed so perfectly for the British government, that they have to stand out as the most likely candidates for being the aggressors.... there are a number of reasons why the timing was perfect for them: 1. The government is currently trying to push through a bill which would make it illegal for private citizens to leave their homes without carrying an ID card which contains details of their DNA, retinal scans, fingerprints, etc. They have been arguing that this is needed to counter terrorism (although can't quite explain how), and just last week the first reading of the bill was passed by the smallest majority the current government has ever had. It was generally believed that it would fail at the second reading, and having a terrorist attack at just this moment is likely to swing the opinion of the less-intelligent public and MPs in favour of ID cards. 2. Noises have been made by quite some time by the US government which seem to point to an imminent invasion of Iraq. The UK government have been saying that they wouldn't be involved in any such invasion, but behind the scenes, there seems to have been support for the US stance, and the government would need something to swing public opinion behind sending troops to support any imminent US invasion... I believe the phrase " Pearl Harbour " is the most appropriate here! 3. With the G8 in progress, and with huge pressure from the UK public to do something about world poverty and climate change, the attack in London was the perfect excuse for Blair to leave the G8 summit, and avoid discussion of these issues. As a result, the agreements which have been reached do not come close to the demands of the British public, but this has been forgotten in the wake of the London attacks. Combine this with the fact that Tony Blair is desperately trying to get his name in the history books as the 21st century Winston Churchill, and it all adds up to the probability that he wouldn't stop at the death of a few hundred people in order to achieve his goals. BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hi Fraggle > try not to scream at the monitor to much Well, screams out the way... > Meanwhile, one of the network's anchors, Brian Kilmeade, said the attacks worked to the Western world's advantage and > he blasted the international gathering at the G8 for focusing on global warming and African aid instead of terrorism. Shame he doesn't know what he's talking about... probably the majority of banners in marches are anti-terrorism, and I don't think there was a single person there who wouldn't like to see the worst terrorists removed from power. BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 OMG, you mean the Florida virus has envaded your side of the pond? Florida virus: at times of hurricane, as soon as people are told to get ready the price of gas goes up as much as a $1 a gallon and the price of plywood and corregated metal (to board up windows, etc.) the prices are jacked up 2 to 5 times the normal price! Bottled water, which normally goes for about $2.50 a gallon is suddenly $10/gallon, etc., etc., etc. Lynda - peter hurd Saturday, July 09, 2005 7:16 AM Re: Re: London bombs This countrys not so morally squeeky clean either, I heard that on the day the local hotels when confornted by hundreds of people unable to travel,seeking accomodation for the night , responded by hiking up their prices.......things like that make me so angry, I just have to listen to Rage Against The Machine at extreme volume! The Valley Vegan..........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: Thanks Fraggle.This doesn't surprise me. I am hoping that they have midjudged the generalfeelings. While watching the news last night the feeling that seemed tosurface more often than others was - that our governments have brought theterrorist attacks on us, and that if the west stopped interfering in theArab countries we would be less likely to be targets. At first I thoughtthat George Galloway would be the only one to say it, but he wasn't.Jo-"fraggle" Friday, July 08, 2005 11:47 PMRe: Re: London bombs> try not to scream at the monitor to much>>> FOX News Hosts Celebrate London Attacks> During their coverage of the breaking news events yesterday, several FOXNews hosts or reporters made comments that are raising some eyebrows. Thenetwork's Washington Managing Editor Brit Hume told host Shepard Smith, thatwhen he heard about the London bombings, he saw it as an investmentopportunity:>>> "I mean, my first thought when I heard -- just on a personal basis, when Iheard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, whichwere really in the tank, I thought, "Hmmm, time to buy." Others may havethought that as well.">> Meanwhile, one of the network's anchors, Brian Kilmeade, said the attacksworked to the Western world's advantage and he blasted the internationalgathering at the G8 for focusing on global warming and African aid insteadof terrorism. Here is some of what he said right after Tony Blair spokeyesterday. This is FOX anchor Brian Kilmeade talking to another FOX's PaulVarney:>> KILMEADE: And that was the first time since 9-11 w hen they should know,and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's importantfor them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in theWestern world's advantage, for people to experience something like thistogether, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened."> VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right atthe point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warmingoff the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticksterrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.>> KILMEADE: Yeah.>> FOX News hosts Brian Kilmeade and Paul Varney, speaking yesterday on FOX.>> > Jo Cwazy > Jul 8, 2005 5:36 PM> > Re: Re: London bombs>> Hi Fraggle>> Forward it if you like. We won't mind.>> BB> Jo>> -> "fraggle" > > Friday, July 08, 2005 8:59 PM> Re: Re: London bombs>>> > i ought to forward wot they were saying on FOX yesterday> > but..i persoanlly don't know if ya'll need to scream at yer monitors> >> > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this> bombing...> > fraggle> >> > > > nikki_mackovitch > > Jul 8, 2005 6:50 AM> > > > Re: London bombs> >> > Hi Jo> >> > Personally I think that he is pleased no matter when it happened.> > Not to say that I think he likes people getting hurt, but this only> > strengthens his constant shouts that we have to "fight the terror".> >> > And I swear if I hear one more person on the t.v. say "we have to be> > viligent" I am going to scream! (again)> >> > They had the President, City of Chicago Mayor, task force leaders,> > Homeland Security and various other "leaders" on the news all day> > yesterday and everyone of them must have used the word "viligant" 6> > times in 10 seconds!> >> > BB> > Nikki> >> >> > , "heartwerk" > > wrote:> > > Apparently there are 37 people dead, so far. There are several> > dozen> > > with injuries so severe that they are not expected to live. There> > are> & g t; > 700 injured. The transport system is mainly working again apart> > from> > > the areas immediately affected.> > >> > > One can't helping wondering whether Bush felt that if a disaster> > had to> > > happen it was convenient it happened on the day climate change was> > > meant to be discussed.> > >> > > Jo> >> >> >> >> > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 That all makes sense to me. JO > Hi Fraggle > > > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this > bombing... > > Please share (if you're not happy to do it on the list, then at least to me, > because I doubt you'll be far from what I'm thinking)... > > For what it's worth, I will share my thoughts: > > I'm going to say some pretty controversial stuff on this, but I reckon since > it's happened in the country I live in, in tube stations which I've passed > through a number of times, and in a town which I lived within 20 miles of > for the first 30 years of my life, and in which I have a number of friends > and family, I think I can do so without being criticised of not caring about > the people affected. > > > > It strikes me that this has been timed so perfectly for the British > government, that they have to stand out as the most likely candidates for > being the aggressors.... there are a number of reasons why the timing was > perfect for them: > > > > 1. The government is currently trying to push through a bill which would > make it illegal for private citizens to leave their homes without carrying > an ID card which contains details of their DNA, retinal scans, fingerprints, > etc. They have been arguing that this is needed to counter terrorism > (although can't quite explain how), and just last week the first reading of > the bill was passed by the smallest majority the current government has ever > had. It was generally believed that it would fail at the second reading, and > having a terrorist attack at just this moment is likely to swing the opinion > of the less-intelligent public and MPs in favour of ID cards. > > > > 2. Noises have been made by quite some time by the US government which seem > to point to an imminent invasion of Iraq. The UK government have been saying > that they wouldn't be involved in any such invasion, but behind the scenes, > there seems to have been support for the US stance, and the government would > need something to swing public opinion behind sending troops to support any > imminent US invasion... I believe the phrase " Pearl Harbour " is the most > appropriate here! > > > > 3. With the G8 in progress, and with huge pressure from the UK public to do > something about world poverty and climate change, the attack in London was > the perfect excuse for Blair to leave the G8 summit, and avoid discussion of > these issues. As a result, the agreements which have been reached do not > come close to the demands of the British public, but this has been forgotten > in the wake of the London attacks. > > > > Combine this with the fact that Tony Blair is desperately trying to get his > name in the history books as the 21st century Winston Churchill, and it all > adds up to the probability that he wouldn't stop at the death of a few > hundred people in order to achieve his goals. > > > > BB > > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 they had some interviews on the radio the day of the event. one barrister who was in the tube when it happened was being interviewed, describing all the damage, the wounded, etc, and the reporter asked " so, what do you think about the people who did this?' and he said " i pity them " the reporter goes " huh " " i pity them, because you have to have pity for anyone who could do such a heinous act " now..on this side of the pond, the standard reply would be.. " %$$ & ^ & ^% & %! bomb iran! " Jo Cwazy <heartwork Jul 9, 2005 12:59 AM Re: Re: London bombs Thanks Fraggle. This doesn't surprise me. I am hoping that they have midjudged the general feelings. While watching the news last night the feeling that seemed to surface more often than others was - that our governments have brought the terrorist attacks on us, and that if the west stopped interfering in the Arab countries we would be less likely to be targets. At first I thought that George Galloway would be the only one to say it, but he wasn't. Jo " God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I think most people over here would say they pity them. They would be angry as well though. Jo > > > they had some interviews on the radio the day of the event. > one barrister who was in the tube when it happened was being interviewed, describing all the damage, the wounded, etc, and the reporter asked " so, what do you think about the people who did this?' > and he said > " i pity them " > the reporter goes " huh " > " i pity them, because you have to have pity for anyone who could do such a heinous act " > > now..on this side of the pond, the standard reply would be.. > " %$$ & ^ & ^% & %! bomb iran! " > > > > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork > Jul 9, 2005 12:59 AM > > Re: Re: London bombs > > Thanks Fraggle. > > This doesn't surprise me. I am hoping that they have midjudged the general > feelings. While watching the news last night the feeling that seemed to > surface more often than others was - that our governments have brought the > terrorist attacks on us, and that if the west stopped interfering in the > Arab countries we would be less likely to be targets. At first I thought > that George Galloway would be the only one to say it, but he wasn't. > > Jo > > " God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him. " > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 get out of my head peter!!!!! would you like one of my tin foil hats? > Hi Fraggle > > > and..i'll keep my thoughts to myself on some of the aspects of this > bombing... > > Please share (if you're not happy to do it on the list, then at least to me, > because I doubt you'll be far from what I'm thinking)... > > For what it's worth, I will share my thoughts: > > I'm going to say some pretty controversial stuff on this, but I reckon since > it's happened in the country I live in, in tube stations which I've passed > through a number of times, and in a town which I lived within 20 miles of > for the first 30 years of my life, and in which I have a number of friends > and family, I think I can do so without being criticised of not caring about > the people affected. > > > > It strikes me that this has been timed so perfectly for the British > government, that they have to stand out as the most likely candidates for > being the aggressors.... there are a number of reasons why the timing was > perfect for them: > > > > 1. The government is currently trying to push through a bill which would > make it illegal for private citizens to leave their homes without carrying > an ID card which contains details of their DNA, retinal scans, fingerprints, > etc. They have been arguing that this is needed to counter terrorism > (although can't quite explain how), and just last week the first reading of > the bill was passed by the smallest majority the current government has ever > had. It was generally believed that it would fail at the second reading, and > having a terrorist attack at just this moment is likely to swing the opinion > of the less-intelligent public and MPs in favour of ID cards. > > > > 2. Noises have been made by quite some time by the US government which seem > to point to an imminent invasion of Iraq. The UK government have been saying > that they wouldn't be involved in any such invasion, but behind the scenes, > there seems to have been support for the US stance, and the government would > need something to swing public opinion behind sending troops to support any > imminent US invasion... I believe the phrase " Pearl Harbour " is the most > appropriate here! > > > > 3. With the G8 in progress, and with huge pressure from the UK public to do > something about world poverty and climate change, the attack in London was > the perfect excuse for Blair to leave the G8 summit, and avoid discussion of > these issues. As a result, the agreements which have been reached do not > come close to the demands of the British public, but this has been forgotten > in the wake of the London attacks. > > > > Combine this with the fact that Tony Blair is desperately trying to get his > name in the history books as the 21st century Winston Churchill, and it all > adds up to the probability that he wouldn't stop at the death of a few > hundred people in order to achieve his goals. > > > > BB > > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hi Fraggle > get out of my head peter!!!!! Sorry about that, but I'd found a nice comfy corner and dozed off. > would you like one of my tin foil hats? It's OK, I already have a selection of my own :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Hi Peter , " Peter " <metalscarab@c...> wrote: > 1. The government is currently trying to push through a bill which would > make it illegal for private citizens to leave their homes without carrying > an ID card which contains details of their DNA, retinal scans, fingerprints, > etc. This reminds me of a commercial we have here were a guy is standing in line at his local bank and the teller staples a bar code to his forehead and then scans him later. The commercial is saying that their bank doesn't treat you like the bank shown, as just another number. Pretty much the same concept. I'm surprised we haven't gotten to the point where all new babies cannot leave the hospital without first receiving their barcode tattoo. BB Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Sad, but true. What a strong and healthy statement! Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > > they had some interviews on the radio the day of the event. > one barrister who was in the tube when it happened was being interviewed, describing all the damage, the wounded, etc, and the reporter asked " so, what do you think about the people who did this?' > and he said > " i pity them " > the reporter goes " huh " > " i pity them, because you have to have pity for anyone who could do such a heinous act " > > now..on this side of the pond, the standard reply would be.. > " %$$ & ^ & ^% & %! bomb iran! " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 it'll be an implanted chip actually...rather then a barcode oh, they'll tout it as a child safety device at first.. " implant yer child, and you never have to worry about kidnappners er child molesters ever! " but, it'll come...just you wait... nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack Jul 11, 2005 4:21 AM Re: London bombs This reminds me of a commercial we have here were a guy is standing in line at his local bank and the teller staples a bar code to his forehead and then scans him later. The commercial is saying that their bank doesn't treat you like the bank shown, as just another number. Pretty much the same concept. I'm surprised we haven't gotten to the point where all new babies cannot leave the hospital without first receiving their barcode tattoo. BB Nikki To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Actually, Nikki, they've been trying for years to convince folks to chip their babies. The chips that they put in pets was designed for use in humans. They couldn't sell the concept to humans, so they are currently making money off pets. HOWEVER, they routinely run an ad campaign using scare tactics with the intent of eventually chipping all human babies. Kidnapping, doncha know. Yeah, right! $$$$$$ is their only concern! Lynda - nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack Monday, July 11, 2005 4:21 AM Re: London bombs > Hi Peter > > > , " Peter " <metalscarab@c...> wrote: > > > 1. The government is currently trying to push through a bill which > would > > make it illegal for private citizens to leave their homes without > carrying > > an ID card which contains details of their DNA, retinal scans, > fingerprints, > > etc. > > > This reminds me of a commercial we have here were a guy is standing > in line at his local bank and the teller staples a bar code to his > forehead and then scans him later. The commercial is saying that > their bank doesn't treat you like the bank shown, as just another > number. > > Pretty much the same concept. > > I'm surprised we haven't gotten to the point where all new babies > cannot leave the hospital without first receiving their barcode > tattoo. > > BB > Nikki > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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