Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 Hi Cath AKA Pengam Pagan, No need to hang your head, I hope you find inner peace and your tolerance grows without compromising your beliefs ( or am I contradicting myself?) . I try ( use the word strongly) to treat others as I would like to be treated, and have brought my two girls to do the same. P.S. Where`s that Guava? The Valley Vegan....Catherine Harris <cait2 wrote: hi peter aka valley vegani take your point about sounding hypocritical about meat in the fridge etc......i think my patience at not being tolerated has been pushed too far and now i feel like i have swung to the all or nothing point of view!i am aware it might look stupid!!catherinehangs headpengam pagan>peter hurd > > >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner>Sat, 29 May 2004 13:58:28 +0100 (BST)>>Hi Cath,>Hope you are well, your ex come across as a bit of a doughnut from the >picture you portrayed, but I am surprised that you can have no tolerance >for a meat eating partner to share your fridge/living space with his choice >of food, yet you say he did not accept your veganism?! Is this the pot >calling the kettle black........no offence meant Welsh Princess.>The Valley Vegan......>>Catherine Harris wrote:>of course there must be meat eaters who are reasonable....my best friend is>a veggie and her partner was ok with that until they had kids, now she >cooks>meat for the kids because he wants it that way.......>>so i think a persons overall attitude to personal choice will be an>indicator as to whether they are tolerating ones being a vegan, or trully>support it...>>and when you have kids, its important to have worked that all out >beforehand>so difficulties dont happen around choice..>>personally, i prefer a meat free kitchen and wont have it in the house>again.....thats my choice..>>catherine>>> >Ian McDonald> > > > > >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner> >Sun, 23 May 2004 02:51:09 +0100> >> >> >> >Catherine Harris wrote:> > >> > > hi all> > >> > > ican only speak for myself, but last year i ended a long relationship> >with a> > > meat eater....at first he was accepting of my vegetarianism, as it was> >at> > > first....but when we moved in together, he put extreme pressure on me >to> > > cook meat........it became a source of his being stubborn and >completely> > > refusing to eat in the house at all because i cooked veggie food, and >he> > > started to only eat take aways, which led to real financial> >issues......he> > > wouldnt cook himself.......> > >> >> >This utterly astonishes me, not so much from an animal welfare> >perspective as a "What a crappy boyfriend" perspective. Let me count the> >ways. Expecting you to cook for him. Expecting you to subordinate your> >ethics to him. Being unable to handle his own money.> >> >It's important to make the distinction because there are a lot of> >omnivores who can manage a perfectly fine relationship. My last> >girlfriend, for instance, barely ever even had cow milk in her tea when> >I was around - which I've got to admit is beyond the call of> >relationship duty.>>>>>>To send an email to - > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Posted June 7, 2004 hey valley vegan or peter as you are known lol good that you are bringing up your girls that way!!.......as for the guava, i will hunt one down (forgive me for hunting terminology) and bring it with me when i next come to bargoed......or a jar of guava jelly catherine missing pengam!! >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner >Thu, 3 Jun 2004 14:40:00 +0100 (BST) > >Hi Cath AKA Pengam Pagan, >No need to hang your head, I hope you find inner peace and your tolerance >grows without compromising your beliefs ( or am I contradicting myself?) . > I try ( use the word strongly) to treat others as I would like to be >treated, and have brought my two girls to do the same. >P.S. Where`s that Guava? >The Valley Vegan.... > >Catherine Harris <cait2 wrote: >hi peter aka valley vegan > >i take your point about sounding hypocritical about meat in the fridge >etc......i think my patience at not being tolerated has been pushed too far >and now i feel like i have swung to the all or nothing point of view! > >i am aware it might look stupid!! > >catherine > >hangs head > >pengam pagan > > > >peter hurd > > > > > >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner > >Sat, 29 May 2004 13:58:28 +0100 (BST) > > > >Hi Cath, > >Hope you are well, your ex come across as a bit of a doughnut from the > >picture you portrayed, but I am surprised that you can have no tolerance > >for a meat eating partner to share your fridge/living space with his >choice > >of food, yet you say he did not accept your veganism?! Is this the pot > >calling the kettle black........no offence meant Welsh Princess. > >The Valley Vegan...... > > > >Catherine Harris wrote: > >of course there must be meat eaters who are reasonable....my best friend >is > >a veggie and her partner was ok with that until they had kids, now she > >cooks > >meat for the kids because he wants it that way....... > > > >so i think a persons overall attitude to personal choice will be an > >indicator as to whether they are tolerating ones being a vegan, or trully > >support it... > > > >and when you have kids, its important to have worked that all out > >beforehand > >so difficulties dont happen around choice.. > > > >personally, i prefer a meat free kitchen and wont have it in the house > >again.....thats my choice.. > > > >catherine > > > > > > >Ian McDonald > > > > > > > > >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner > > >Sun, 23 May 2004 02:51:09 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > >Catherine Harris wrote: > > > > > > > > hi all > > > > > > > > ican only speak for myself, but last year i ended a long >relationship > > >with a > > > > meat eater....at first he was accepting of my vegetarianism, as it >was > > >at > > > > first....but when we moved in together, he put extreme pressure on >me > >to > > > > cook meat........it became a source of his being stubborn and > >completely > > > > refusing to eat in the house at all because i cooked veggie food, >and > >he > > > > started to only eat take aways, which led to real financial > > >issues......he > > > > wouldnt cook himself....... > > > > > > > > > >This utterly astonishes me, not so much from an animal welfare > > >perspective as a " What a crappy boyfriend " perspective. Let me count >the > > >ways. Expecting you to cook for him. Expecting you to subordinate your > > >ethics to him. Being unable to handle his own money. > > > > > >It's important to make the distinction because there are a lot of > > >omnivores who can manage a perfectly fine relationship. My last > > >girlfriend, for instance, barely ever even had cow milk in her tea when > > >I was around - which I've got to admit is beyond the call of > > >relationship duty. > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote
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