Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 I'm certainly into a "raw chocolate" diet - any takers? Tom - Catherine Harris Sunday, May 04, 2003 4:14 PM Re: Would you? Could you? hi all, i love fruit...........but i couldnt live without humous...................lol take care all nos dda catherine >"Danielle Kichler" > > >Re: Would you? Could you? >Sun, 04 May 2003 19:12:39 -0400 > >If there were a raw restaurant in my neck of the woods, I'd certainly try >it. I just couldn't do it. I can't live without chocolate, ya know. > >Danielle > > > >"You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake"--Jeanette Rankin > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >EBbrewpunx > > >Re: Would you? Could you? >Sun, 4 May 2003 12:06:03 EDT > >i've tried raw a few times..obviously some people swear by it..there are >several Raw resturants in my area.. >*shrugs* >sure, cooking alters the enzymes of the food we eat, and, when was the last >time you saw a monkey microwave a banana leaf.... >but, fer me, i didn't ever really feel the "big change" that is suppose to >come over you when you go raw..all the energy and such... >but then again, i never felt different when i went vegan either..maybe i'm >just a freak.. >i still try and go raw once a week, but, tis hard fer me...while, salads and >such are nice, and i enjoy fruit..my choices then seem horribly limited, >unless i want to make nut milks and such..and i don't have a blender... >if you want to try it, go fer it, lotsa folks swear by it >but but but..ack! no beer!!! >fraggle > > >_______________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8 you can filter it out To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 And a banana is technically a herb! Pete H > In a message dated 5/5/03 12:07:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >janewwt writes: > And, its strange how we call may fruit - veg, e.g. sweet peppers, aubergine > etc > Does anyone know how that's come about? > > in modern jargon and popular speak, fruits have come to mean foods from >trees with generally high sugar content, while vegetables are grown from >plants ..in general.. >technically, everything from tomatoes to gooseberries are fruit.... Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 A fruit is considered anything with a seed or seeds in it. Sarah --- swpgh01 wrote: > > And a banana is technically a herb! > Pete H > > In a message dated 5/5/03 12:07:19 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > >janewwt writes: > > And, its strange how we call may fruit - veg, > e.g. sweet peppers, aubergine > > etc > > Does anyone know how that's come about? > > > > in modern jargon and popular speak, fruits have > come to mean foods from > >trees with generally high sugar content, while > vegetables are grown from > >plants ..in general.. > >technically, everything from tomatoes to > gooseberries are fruit.... > > Peter H > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the > net at http://www.talk21.com > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Hi, Again, late to this one as well I'm afraid, but... I'm not certain about this, but I think the the idea of only eating fallen fruit/vegetables originated in Jainism, and was a stepping stone along the path to not eating anything at all, and eventually starving to death/reaching enlightenment. As such, it might be a nice idea, but isn't really that practical without also taking supplements, etc. (which probably haven't come from fallen fruit). Regarding plants being designed to be eaten, that is true of seeds and and fruit, but probably not stems/roots/parts which actually kill plants. Also, whilst they do not feel pain in an animal sense, they do have a 'desire' for sunlight, for water, etc., and will actively seek these out. So by killing them you take away their opportunity for water, sunlight, etc. Not that this is about to stop me eating plants, but it isn't, perhaps, as silly an idea as it clearly sounds to meat-eaters who use it to mock vegans. John - " Amylia F " <amylia_21 Saturday, May 03, 2003 4:57 PM Would you? Could you? > I just finished reading all the postings on " honey. " See, that's why I love you guys. You always have something thought-provoking to say, and I just eat it up. (Yum!) And now, I've already asked a similar question to this but, would you, or could you become a fruitarian? I heard about them 7 years ago. I found their official website, but haven't had the hours to go through it. I'm attracted to them, because it just seems so " pure. " (I've even heard they refuse to pick fruit off trees, but instead wait for it to fall to the ground----that way it's no longer connected to the source of life, the tree. Once it's on the ground, it's a product of the tree.---See the difference?) Like I said, it seems pure, because there are people that believe eating carrots is murder. ---Why? Because they are pulled out from under the ground, thus ending their life, unlike apples which are a product of the tree, not the tree itself. And another thing, I did once have this guy tell me that eating vegetables hurts plants. I know plants do not have a face, but do they have feelings? --Well, I feel funny just asking that question. But does anyone feel they are " killing " plants at all? Or maybe choosing the lesser of two evils by eating plants instead of animals?---Just wondering... > > > > *This message was brought to you by: Amy > > > -------- ------ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Yes, I do have a hard time explaining why plants open and close their petals, and grow toward the sunlight. Is it just reflexes or something? Shucks, I really need to take a botany class. *This message was brought to you by: Amy >"John Davis" > > >Re: Would you? Could you? >Wed, 7 May 2003 13:30:01 +0100 > >Hi, > >Again, late to this one as well I'm afraid, but... > >I'm not certain about this, but I think the the idea of only eating fallen >fruit/vegetables originated in Jainism, and was a stepping stone >along the path to not eating anything at all, and eventually starving to >death/reaching enlightenment. As such, it might be a nice idea, but isn't >really that practical without also taking supplements, etc. (which probably >haven't come from fallen fruit). > >Regarding plants being designed to be eaten, that is true of seeds and and >fruit, but probably not stems/roots/parts which actually kill plants. Also, >whilst they do not feel pain in an animal sense, they do have a 'desire' for >sunlight, for water, etc., and will actively seek these out. So by killing >them you take away their opportunity for water, sunlight, etc. > >Not that this is about to stop me eating plants, but it isn't, perhaps, as >silly an idea as it clearly sounds to meat-eaters who use it to mock vegans. > >John > >- >"Amylia F" > >Saturday, May 03, 2003 4:57 PM > Would you? Could you? > > > > I just finished reading all the postings on "honey." See, that's why I >love you guys. You always have something thought-provoking to say, and I >just eat it up. (Yum!) And now, I've already asked a similar question to >this but, would you, or could you become a fruitarian? I heard about them 7 >years ago. I found their official website, but haven't had the hours to go >through it. I'm attracted to them, because it just seems so "pure." (I've >even heard they refuse to pick fruit off trees, but instead wait for it to >fall to the ground----that way it's no longer connected to the source of >life, the tree. Once it's on the ground, it's a product of the tree.---See >the difference?) Like I said, it seems pure, because there are people that >believe eating carrots is murder. ---Why? Because they are pulled out from >under the ground, thus ending their life, unlike apples which are a product >of the tree, not the tree itself. And another thing, I did once have this >guy tell me that eating vegetables hurts plants. I know plants do not have >a face, but do they have feelings? --Well, I feel funny just asking that >question. But does anyone feel they are "killing" plants at all? Or maybe >choosing the lesser of two evils by eating plants instead of animals?---Just >wondering... > > > > > > > > *This message was brought to you by: Amy > > > > > > -------- >------ > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 As far as I know photosensative cells expand and contract in response to the sunlight/lack of, which in turn move the plant. > Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 I agree with Fraggle. Also - we have to eat something and if we live on plants it is less of a problem for the environment than if we eat animals. Jo ah the old "plants have feelings tooo!" argument..ever notice how folks relish to say that as they take a bite out of a hamburger.ok, to tell you the truth, there is no REAL answer to that question..its a red herring, its meant to distract you. "well, so wot if i am responsible for the death of millions of cows, you, you, eat lettuce, lettuce has feelings too, why, you should be put in jail and locked away, you hypocrite.."...see, its meant to throw you, and confuse you...saying plants have feelings is...mistaken..plants react with their environment because they are alive..they don't have feelings per se, and unlike animals, be they bees or chinchilas, they don't have a nervous system....we always hear stories about if you talk to plants they respond and grow better, etc(which could mean they just like the carbon dioxide we exude), does this mean plants have feelings?All life on this planet is connected..it's called a web of life for a reason, and on some level, everything reacts and effects something else, heck, i bet if you walk on a rock, you are subtly changing it, eroding a few slivers here, maybe changing a molecular density there...subtle changes, but changes non the less..you could probably hook up a device that reads subtle changes in radio waves and the like, and it would read that the rock's frequency changed when you walked across it...does that mean the rock felt pain?like i said, there is no REAL answer to the question, as there isn't meant to be, its meant to throw you off so the speaker can feel smug, and it ducks him searching out his/her feelings on the subject...as for fruits...fruit is MEANT to be eaten, thats why the plant produces it..cheers ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release 18/04/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 We went to Herbivores in Inverness and Peter had a raw meal which he enjoyed very much. Jo > If there were a raw restaurant in my neck of the woods, I'd certainly try > it. I just couldn't do it. I can't live without chocolate, ya know. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release 18/04/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 Catherine My favourite food is hummous. Jo i love fruit...........but i couldnt live without humous...................lol ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release 18/04/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 hi jo my favourite food is humous too...........sometimes i have it everyday...........its so tasty.......and portable.........i take it to work as my perfect lunch with wholemeal pitta......... catherine >"Heartwork" > > >Re: Would you? Could you? >Sat, 10 May 2003 18:20:31 +0100 > >Catherine > >My favourite food is hummous. > >Jo > i love fruit...........but i couldnt live without humous...................lol > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release 18/04/03 Chat with friends online - download MSN Messenger today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 I live in Washington, DC. The closest raw resturant I know of is just north of Philadelphia, and I'm not keen on a trip there just to check it out. Does anyone know of a good raw place in New York City? I'm considering another trip there, and in Manhattan, I would truly like to try it out. Danielle " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " --Jeanette Rankin ----Original Message Follows---- " Heartwork " <Heartwork Re: Would you? Could you? Sat, 10 May 2003 18:19:42 +0100 We went to Herbivores in Inverness and Peter had a raw meal which he enjoyed very much. Jo > If there were a raw restaurant in my neck of the woods, I'd certainly try > it. I just couldn't do it. I can't live without chocolate, ya know. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release 18/04/03 _______________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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