Better Batter

August 22, 2008

Shannon, you aren't the only one who was feeling " lectured to " ! I was too. I

got the impression that a number of long time members were feeling that way.

Indeed, it would be difficult to avoid feeling that way when someone fires such

generalized criticism at the list.

Who can say where someone like that may be coming from? Sometimes people say

things like that with good intentions and it just comes out wrong. However,

sometimes they say things like that just to get a reaction and create drama.

Either way, it's a waste of our energy to take it on.

This list has over a THOUSAND members, which means there are over a 1000

variations of vegan gf diet! We each create our own diet as best we can. If YOU

are happy with your health and dietary habits, that is all that matters. The

only one you need to please is you.

If someone else thinks this list isn't healthy enough, let's remember that a

" healthy " diet can be defined in many ways. For a person who seems to believe

eating meat is necessary to be healthy, perhaps another list with a different

focus would better meet their needs.

I totally hear you about the challenge of feeding kids! I worked hard on that

myself with my own daughter. Now, I'm feeding grandkids! I'm finding it a bit

easier this time around, partly because it's less often, and partly because I

can draw from experience.

It also helps having more and more gluten-free products on the market from which

to choose. When I started eating vegan/gluten free over 20 years ago, there was

only En-er-gy brand bread. It was icky. It's still our least favourite but

even it has improved over the years!

It's so exciting to see the market developing. More people are increasingly

aware of the need for gf eating. Now, there are half a dozen types of gf breads

in the freezer section of my little small town grocery store. I'm grateful for

my daughter's sake too. It helps make her very full life a little easier.

Anyhoo... I hope you are feeling better.

Deborah

Seconded. I'm looking for food my kids can and will eat.

I'm really feeling ... lectured to about this. I mean, I'm here

because I want vegan, gluten-free recipes. That's not enough now? I

have to hear about how I'm not eating healthy enough because I use

things like Better Batter? Honestly, I eat a ton of healthy things,

and A LOT better than most people, and this still isn't good enough

for some people. If I didn't rely so heavily on the recipes here,

that would be the last straw, I'd be out of here.

Shannon

.

August 22, 2008

I am feeling better. Thank you for your response (and for yours

LaDonna). Part of the problem is I'm pregnant and rather hormonal. To

say the least.

Shannon

At 06:30 PM 8/21/2008, you wrote:

>Shannon, you aren't the only one who was feeling " lectured to " ! I

>was too. I got the impression that a number of long time members

>were feeling that way. Indeed, it would be difficult to avoid

>feeling that way when someone fires such generalized criticism at the list.

>

>Who can say where someone like that may be coming from? Sometimes

>people say things like that with good intentions and it just comes

>out wrong. However, sometimes they say things like that just to get

>a reaction and create drama. Either way, it's a waste of our energy

>to take it on.

>

>This list has over a THOUSAND members, which means there are over a

>1000 variations of vegan gf diet! We each create our own diet as

>best we can. If YOU are happy with your health and dietary habits,

>that is all that matters. The only one you need to please is you.

>

>If someone else thinks this list isn't healthy enough, let's

>remember that a " healthy " diet can be defined in many ways. For a

>person who seems to believe eating meat is necessary to be healthy,

>perhaps another list with a different focus would better meet their needs.

>

>I totally hear you about the challenge of feeding kids! I worked

>hard on that myself with my own daughter. Now, I'm feeding

>grandkids! I'm finding it a bit easier this time around, partly

>because it's less often, and partly because I can draw from experience.

>

>It also helps having more and more gluten-free products on the

>market from which to choose. When I started eating vegan/gluten free

>over 20 years ago, there was only En-er-gy brand bread. It was icky.

>It's still our least favourite but even it has improved over the years!

>

>It's so exciting to see the market developing. More people are

>increasingly aware of the need for gf eating. Now, there are half a

>dozen types of gf breads in the freezer section of my little small

>town grocery store. I'm grateful for my daughter's sake too. It

>helps make her very full life a little easier.

>

>Anyhoo... I hope you are feeling better.

>

>Deborah

>

>Seconded. I'm looking for food my kids can and will eat.

>

>I'm really feeling ... lectured to about this. I mean, I'm here

>because I want vegan, gluten-free recipes. That's not enough now? I

>have to hear about how I'm not eating healthy enough because I use

>things like Better Batter? Honestly, I eat a ton of healthy things,

>and A LOT better than most people, and this still isn't good enough

>for some people. If I didn't rely so heavily on the recipes here,

>that would be the last straw, I'd be out of here.

>

>Shannon

>.

>

August 22, 2008

Congrats Shannon!

I've been lurking on these boards mostly for the recipes. I'm new to the GF

diet, but not new to being a vegetarian. I am a recently diagnosed celiac,

and am having my daughter tested soon. We already keep her off dairy, so I

chose the vegan board instead of any lacto-ovo groups.

It's nice to have the treat recipes once in a while. I'm trying to lose

weight (yes, it IS possible to be celiac and fat) so I really limit treat

foods. I too would like to get the most nutrition out of my food, while at

the same time finding convenient, easy-to-make, cost-effective foods that my

child will actually eat.

And I know that it is totally off-topic here, but does anyone know of a GF

play-doh alternative? Someone bought her some Moon Sand for her birthday,

but the manufacturer doesn't list what is in it. I don't want her playing

with anything she might be allergic too, or a load of toxic chemicals.

Recipes for GF play-doh are welcome too!

Thanks everyone!

_____

On Behalf Of Shannon West

Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:56 PM

Re: Re: Better Batter

I am feeling better. Thank you for your response (and for yours

LaDonna). Part of the problem is I'm pregnant and rather hormonal. To

say the least.

Shannon

At 06:30 PM 8/21/2008, you wrote:

>Shannon, you aren't the only one who was feeling " lectured to " ! I

>was too. I got the impression that a number of long time members

>were feeling that way. Indeed, it would be difficult to avoid

>feeling that way when someone fires such generalized criticism at the list.

>

>Who can say where someone like that may be coming from? Sometimes

>people say things like that with good intentions and it just comes

>out wrong. However, sometimes they say things like that just to get

>a reaction and create drama. Either way, it's a waste of our energy

>to take it on.

>

>This list has over a THOUSAND members, which means there are over a

>1000 variations of vegan gf diet! We each create our own diet as

>best we can. If YOU are happy with your health and dietary habits,

>that is all that matters. The only one you need to please is you.

>

>If someone else thinks this list isn't healthy enough, let's

>remember that a " healthy " diet can be defined in many ways. For a

>person who seems to believe eating meat is necessary to be healthy,

>perhaps another list with a different focus would better meet their needs.

>

>I totally hear you about the challenge of feeding kids! I worked

>hard on that myself with my own daughter. Now, I'm feeding

>grandkids! I'm finding it a bit easier this time around, partly

>because it's less often, and partly because I can draw from experience.

>

>It also helps having more and more gluten-free products on the

>market from which to choose. When I started eating vegan/gluten free

>over 20 years ago, there was only En-er-gy brand bread. It was icky.

>It's still our least favourite but even it has improved over the years!

>

>It's so exciting to see the market developing. More people are

>increasingly aware of the need for gf eating. Now, there are half a

>dozen types of gf breads in the freezer section of my little small

>town grocery store. I'm grateful for my daughter's sake too. It

>helps make her very full life a little easier.

>

>Anyhoo... I hope you are feeling better.

>

>Deborah

>

>Seconded. I'm looking for food my kids can and will eat.

>

>I'm really feeling ... lectured to about this. I mean, I'm here

>because I want vegan, gluten-free recipes. That's not enough now? I

>have to hear about how I'm not eating healthy enough because I use

>things like Better Batter? Honestly, I eat a ton of healthy things,

>and A LOT better than most people, and this still isn't good enough

>for some people. If I didn't rely so heavily on the recipes here,

>that would be the last straw, I'd be out of here.

>

>Shannon

>.

>

August 22, 2008

Here is a playdough posted on one of my other lists:

http://www.discountschoolsupply.com/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?product=7566 & keyw\

ord=gluten%20free

One of the problems that I had when we first went GF was that I did it

too close to Christmas. Which meant that I had to experiment with

making all kinds of GF cookies, squares, cakes etc. to take with us to

various parties because we didn't have anything 'tried and true' yet.

So the first month after going GF, I gained 10 lbs, and I've had a

heck of a time getting it off again!

Pam

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Angela McBride <amcbride3 wrote:

> Congrats Shannon!

>

> I've been lurking on these boards mostly for the recipes. I'm new to the GF

> diet, but not new to being a vegetarian. I am a recently diagnosed celiac,

> and am having my daughter tested soon. We already keep her off dairy, so I

> chose the vegan board instead of any lacto-ovo groups.

>

> It's nice to have the treat recipes once in a while. I'm trying to lose

> weight (yes, it IS possible to be celiac and fat) so I really limit treat

> foods. I too would like to get the most nutrition out of my food, while at

> the same time finding convenient, easy-to-make, cost-effective foods that my

> child will actually eat.

>

> And I know that it is totally off-topic here, but does anyone know of a GF

> play-doh alternative? Someone bought her some Moon Sand for her birthday,

> but the manufacturer doesn't list what is in it. I don't want her playing

> with anything she might be allergic too, or a load of toxic chemicals.

> Recipes for GF play-doh are welcome too!

>

> Thanks everyone!

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of Shannon West

> Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:56 PM

>

> Re: Re: Better Batter

>

> I am feeling better. Thank you for your response (and for yours

> LaDonna). Part of the problem is I'm pregnant and rather hormonal. To

> say the least.

>

> Shannon

>

> At 06:30 PM 8/21/2008, you wrote:

>

>>Shannon, you aren't the only one who was feeling " lectured to " ! I

>>was too. I got the impression that a number of long time members

>>were feeling that way. Indeed, it would be difficult to avoid

>>feeling that way when someone fires such generalized criticism at the list.

>>

>>Who can say where someone like that may be coming from? Sometimes

>>people say things like that with good intentions and it just comes

>>out wrong. However, sometimes they say things like that just to get

>>a reaction and create drama. Either way, it's a waste of our energy

>>to take it on.

>>

>>This list has over a THOUSAND members, which means there are over a

>>1000 variations of vegan gf diet! We each create our own diet as

>>best we can. If YOU are happy with your health and dietary habits,

>>that is all that matters. The only one you need to please is you.

>>

>>If someone else thinks this list isn't healthy enough, let's

>>remember that a " healthy " diet can be defined in many ways. For a

>>person who seems to believe eating meat is necessary to be healthy,

>>perhaps another list with a different focus would better meet their needs.

>>

>>I totally hear you about the challenge of feeding kids! I worked

>>hard on that myself with my own daughter. Now, I'm feeding

>>grandkids! I'm finding it a bit easier this time around, partly

>>because it's less often, and partly because I can draw from experience.

>>

>>It also helps having more and more gluten-free products on the

>>market from which to choose. When I started eating vegan/gluten free

>>over 20 years ago, there was only En-er-gy brand bread. It was icky.

>>It's still our least favourite but even it has improved over the years!

>>

>>It's so exciting to see the market developing. More people are

>>increasingly aware of the need for gf eating. Now, there are half a

>>dozen types of gf breads in the freezer section of my little small

>>town grocery store. I'm grateful for my daughter's sake too. It

>>helps make her very full life a little easier.

>>

>>Anyhoo... I hope you are feeling better.

>>

>>Deborah

>>

>>Seconded. I'm looking for food my kids can and will eat.

>>

>>I'm really feeling ... lectured to about this. I mean, I'm here

>>because I want vegan, gluten-free recipes. That's not enough now? I

>>have to hear about how I'm not eating healthy enough because I use

>>things like Better Batter? Honestly, I eat a ton of healthy things,

>>and A LOT better than most people, and this still isn't good enough

>>for some people. If I didn't rely so heavily on the recipes here,

>>that would be the last straw, I'd be out of here.

>>

>>Shannon

>>.

>>

August 22, 2008

Amber, I understand exactly what you are saying. I, personally, am

not gluten free or vegan (I eat fish), but I have 3 children on the

Austism Spectrum. I signed up for this group to see if I could get

some gluten free recipes that already were without eggs and milk. My

oldest daughter has ASD and the only thing she will eat is fish and

rice and gluten free brown " rice crispies " cereal.

It did not help the situation any that I raised them as vegetarians

since they were babies, but of course, that was not a problem when

they were able to eat " regular " food. I just give her the food she

wants but kinda stray away from it a little bit, so she gets a chance

to transition, little by little to different foods, and it's been

working. For instance, I have been baking and cooking since I was 9

years old, so I pretty much have that skill embedded. What I would

do, is, instead of using the rice flour blend, I used a bean flour

blend, taste of course maybe an issue, but the way I bake, you can't

tell any type of after tastes or anything. I start making homemade

waffles with the bean flour and used real maple syrup. I would make

cakes and cupcakes, of course, with the bean flour blend and put a

gluten free flavoring in it (like orange oil), cut the sugar in half

or only put 1/4 sugar in it, and frost it with corn free frosting. I

do alot of " distraction " cooking and baking. I put flavors together

that " distract " that person from any aftertaste of the flour or how

it's not sweet enough.

You dig?

Kind of switch it up. Are you corn free? You said he loves pancakes,

make him cornbread pancakes with a little green food or flax oil. Use

100% maple syrup. Make your own waffles. Stack the waffles with fresh

fruit, or use a whole fruit, gluten free spread as a composte(real

easy, just take a couple spoon fulls out the jar and put into a bowl.

And then put it in the microwave).

I have gotten my daughter to eat other foods by accomodating her

comfort zone.

Let me know if you need any other information.

Stephanie

August 22, 2008

Pam, it's lousy playdoh

Shez

On Aug 22, 2008, at 2:31 PM, pdw wrote:

> Here is a playdough posted on one of my other lists:

>

> http://www.discountschoolsupply.com/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?

> product=7566 & keyword=gluten%20free

>

> One of the problems that I had when we first went GF was that I did it

> too close to Christmas. Which meant that I had to experiment with

> making all kinds of GF cookies, squares, cakes etc. to take with us to

> various parties because we didn't have anything 'tried and true' yet.

> So the first month after going GF, I gained 10 lbs, and I've had a

> heck of a time getting it off again!

>

> Pam

>

> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Angela McBride

> <amcbride3 wrote:

>> Congrats Shannon!

>>

>> I've been lurking on these boards mostly for the recipes. I'm new

>> to the GF

>> diet, but not new to being a vegetarian. I am a recently diagnosed

>> celiac,

>> and am having my daughter tested soon. We already keep her off

>> dairy, so I

>> chose the vegan board instead of any lacto-ovo groups.

>>

>> It's nice to have the treat recipes once in a while. I'm trying to

>> lose

>> weight (yes, it IS possible to be celiac and fat) so I really

>> limit treat

>> foods. I too would like to get the most nutrition out of my food,

>> while at

>> the same time finding convenient, easy-to-make, cost-effective

>> foods that my

>> child will actually eat.

>>

>> And I know that it is totally off-topic here, but does anyone know

>> of a GF

>> play-doh alternative? Someone bought her some Moon Sand for her

>> birthday,

>> but the manufacturer doesn't list what is in it. I don't want her

>> playing

>> with anything she might be allergic too, or a load of toxic

>> chemicals.

>> Recipes for GF play-doh are welcome too!

>>

>> Thanks everyone!

>>

>> _____

>>

>> On Behalf Of

>> Shannon West

>> Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:56 PM

>>

>> Re: Re: Better Batter

>>

>> I am feeling better. Thank you for your response (and for yours

>> LaDonna). Part of the problem is I'm pregnant and rather hormonal. To

>> say the least.

>>

>> Shannon

>>

>> At 06:30 PM 8/21/2008, you wrote:

>>

>>> Shannon, you aren't the only one who was feeling " lectured to " ! I

>>> was too. I got the impression that a number of long time members

>>> were feeling that way. Indeed, it would be difficult to avoid

>>> feeling that way when someone fires such generalized criticism at

>>> the list.

>>>

>>> Who can say where someone like that may be coming from? Sometimes

>>> people say things like that with good intentions and it just comes

>>> out wrong. However, sometimes they say things like that just to get

>>> a reaction and create drama. Either way, it's a waste of our energy

>>> to take it on.

>>>

>>> This list has over a THOUSAND members, which means there are over a

>>> 1000 variations of vegan gf diet! We each create our own diet as

>>> best we can. If YOU are happy with your health and dietary habits,

>>> that is all that matters. The only one you need to please is you.

>>>

>>> If someone else thinks this list isn't healthy enough, let's

>>> remember that a " healthy " diet can be defined in many ways. For a

>>> person who seems to believe eating meat is necessary to be healthy,

>>> perhaps another list with a different focus would better meet

>>> their needs.

>>>

>>> I totally hear you about the challenge of feeding kids! I worked

>>> hard on that myself with my own daughter. Now, I'm feeding

>>> grandkids! I'm finding it a bit easier this time around, partly

>>> because it's less often, and partly because I can draw from

>>> experience.

>>>

>>> It also helps having more and more gluten-free products on the

>>> market from which to choose. When I started eating vegan/gluten free

>>> over 20 years ago, there was only En-er-gy brand bread. It was icky.

>>> It's still our least favourite but even it has improved over the

>>> years!

>>>

>>> It's so exciting to see the market developing. More people are

>>> increasingly aware of the need for gf eating. Now, there are half a

>>> dozen types of gf breads in the freezer section of my little small

>>> town grocery store. I'm grateful for my daughter's sake too. It

>>> helps make her very full life a little easier.

>>>

>>> Anyhoo... I hope you are feeling better.

>>>

>>> Deborah

>>>

>>> Seconded. I'm looking for food my kids can and will eat.

>>>

>>> I'm really feeling ... lectured to about this. I mean, I'm here

>>> because I want vegan, gluten-free recipes. That's not enough now? I

>>> have to hear about how I'm not eating healthy enough because I use

>>> things like Better Batter? Honestly, I eat a ton of healthy things,

>>> and A LOT better than most people, and this still isn't good enough

>>> for some people. If I didn't rely so heavily on the recipes here,

>>> that would be the last straw, I'd be out of here.

>>>

>>> Shannon

>>> .

>>>

August 23, 2008

Stephanie,

Thanks for the help.

He only eats:

peanut butter (which he can't take to his preschool, they are nut-free)

Bread in most forms - toast, bread, bagels, rolls, breadsticks, donuts,

waffles (but he refused pancakes this morning). I buy Enjoy Life or

make them homemade with Pamela's wheat-free bread mix. I use Cherrybrook

pancake mix to make the waffles/pancakes.

chicken nuggets (I give him Bell & Evans)

broccoli

coconut oil (on toast and other breads for the Omegas)

fries or tater tots

anything crunchy - " safe " chips, pretzels, crackers, homemade fake

" chex " mix with just seasoned pretzels and cereal

pears, apples and fruit snacks

pear juice and homemade lemonade

desserts - cookies, mini-donuts and frosting

Every once in a while he'll eat the GF version of fruity pebbles or some

corn or Tinkyada pasta (plain). He used to eat " meatballs " and pasta

but stopped one day. Once in a blue moon he'll eat a banana. That's

it, that's his entire repertoire.

He is not corn-free but I do not let him have corn syrup (sort of

modified Feingold) is soy-free. He will not eat anything mushy or soft

like yogurts, sauces, james, syrups, etc. No muffins.

In addition to his restrictions, I am allergic to soy, flax, eggs,

dairy, nutmeg, legumes, the entire brassica family, nutmeg, tree nuts

and wheat/gluten. I very rarely eat meat but DO eat it (my cholesterol

is 159) is since soy is my most severe allergic reaction and

legumes/beans are out, too. I usually can only do grass-fed beef,

everything else has been fed copious amounts of grains and soy which I

react to when I eat the meat. It's tough to get protein in when you

can't use bean or other flours.

I was so excited to find the soy-free vegan Sunshine " burgers " in a

local frou-frou store (as my husband calls it). Delicious.

http://sunshineburger.com/products/garden.html

Gotta run, miter saw is calling my name...

August 23, 2008

I'm a fan of the Sunshine burgers as well. I tried them when I first went

soy-free, and I didn't like them. But after a year without soy, what do you

know--the Sunshine burgers taste great to me now!

Sally

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Amber Brown <amber_brownwrote:

> Stephanie,

>

> Thanks for the help.

>

> He only eats:

>

> peanut butter (which he can't take to his preschool, they are nut-free)

> Bread in most forms - toast, bread, bagels, rolls, breadsticks, donuts,

> waffles (but he refused pancakes this morning). I buy Enjoy Life or

> make them homemade with Pamela's wheat-free bread mix. I use Cherrybrook

> pancake mix to make the waffles/pancakes.

> chicken nuggets (I give him Bell & Evans)

> broccoli

> coconut oil (on toast and other breads for the Omegas)

> fries or tater tots

> anything crunchy - " safe " chips, pretzels, crackers, homemade fake

> " chex " mix with just seasoned pretzels and cereal

> pears, apples and fruit snacks

> pear juice and homemade lemonade

> desserts - cookies, mini-donuts and frosting

>

> Every once in a while he'll eat the GF version of fruity pebbles or some

> corn or Tinkyada pasta (plain). He used to eat " meatballs " and pasta

> but stopped one day. Once in a blue moon he'll eat a banana. That's

> it, that's his entire repertoire.

>

> He is not corn-free but I do not let him have corn syrup (sort of

> modified Feingold) is soy-free. He will not eat anything mushy or soft

> like yogurts, sauces, james, syrups, etc. No muffins.

>

> In addition to his restrictions, I am allergic to soy, flax, eggs,

> dairy, nutmeg, legumes, the entire brassica family, nutmeg, tree nuts

> and wheat/gluten. I very rarely eat meat but DO eat it (my cholesterol

> is 159) is since soy is my most severe allergic reaction and

> legumes/beans are out, too. I usually can only do grass-fed beef,

> everything else has been fed copious amounts of grains and soy which I

> react to when I eat the meat. It's tough to get protein in when you

> can't use bean or other flours.

>

> I was so excited to find the soy-free vegan Sunshine " burgers " in a

> local frou-frou store (as my husband calls it). Delicious.

> http://sunshineburger.com/products/garden.html

>

> Gotta run, miter saw is calling my name...

>

September 7, 2008

I know this is an old message, but Deborah, you are such a good writer and I

appreciate the care you put in responses

Pat

dpageau

Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:11:48 -0700

Re: Re: Better Batter

Holli, please rest assured that most of us are very concerned about

good quality nutrition on this list. You may notice that many of the recipes

posted on this list are based on fruit, veggies, whole grains and legumes.

It sounds like our discussion about this flour mix triggered some upset you have

been building. Perhaps it is just reality that people involved in allergy

groups, are just like people anywhere: everyone has their own ideas about how

they want to address their problems.

Personally, I find it interesting to hear about gluten free products. Like

yourself, I too eat a gf vegan brownie or some sort of gf treat on occasion, and

when I do, I like to have it taste good. After all, when it comes to eating a

treat like that, having a good taste and mouth-feel is why we eat it. I am at

peace with that.

Have you ever had to feed children? I raised my own daughter on a gluten free

vegan diet. It could be tough at times to get her to eat what I provided after

she started school. Kids rarely care as much about nutrition as about the

experience of eating, and when they see their friends eating various things,

they want them too. I was often under pressure to figure out how to give her

something we would both feel good about, and packaged gf vegan waffles were

sometimes the best compromise I could find.

Perhaps it would help you feel better to focus your energy writing on topics

that nurture the nutritional aspects of food and healthy eating, as you

understand it. You know what they say: we catch more flies with honey than

vinegar! You may inspire people to raise the bar of their nutritional awareness

by providing them with inspirational anecdotes of the healing power of healthy

diet, and with gentle encouragement. We all prefer to be treated with respect,

so whenever you suspect a communication is at risk of " raining on anyone's

parade " , perhaps you might instead, choose a sunny approach.

Wishing you all the best...

Deborah

I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but am I the only one

concerned about nutrition and not just mouth feel/taste? Check out

the numbers. It's air, with calories!! I would rather do without

than eat that as a main food source. Yeah, I eat junk food, but I

would much rather eat a well-balanced, healthy meal and have a brownie

afterward than junk FOR my meal, and a brownie on top of that or do

without the brownie.

Sorry, it just seems like a lot of allergy folks focus primarily on

taste/feel and completely disregard nutrition. I see on another board

a lot of parents feeding their kids tons of gf bread products like

vans waffles on a daily basis as the main part of most meals. When

the numbers look like this, I can't see doing that. We eat a bizarre

diet, maybe, compared to " normal " America, but it's healthy!

Anyone??

Holli

Ingredients:

Rice flour, Brown Rice Flour, Potato Starch, Tapioca Starch, Potato

flour, Xanthan gum, Pectin.

Nutritional Information:

Serving size 1/4 c

Calories per serving 99

Calories from fat 0

Total Fat 0

Transfat 0

Saturated Fat 0

Cholesterol 0

Sodium 4.28 mg

Total Carbohydrate 23 g

Dietary Fiber 1 g

Sugars <1 g

Protein 1 g

Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%

Calcium 0% Iron 1%

.

September 7, 2008