new vegan

[Guest guest]

>>>I'm not totally sure...but I suspect it's that I just

> haven't eaten enough...so in the mean time I am actually making

> sure I get enough of what I need by eating _some_ animal

> products every few days...I guess I should start off by eating a

> lot to see if that helps. anyone else experience anything along these

> lines or any ideas? Dan

 

Dan, I think you are correct in your assumption that you just need to eat

more of your vegan foods. Sometimes when we " go vegan " it is such a drastic

change that we forget about all the things we " can " eat and remain free of

animal products. My suggestion is that you explore new options in vegan

eating. . .and eat more of it. For awhile you may need to add an extra

" meal " in your day until your body adjusts. I really don't believe that

your body needs animal products to feel good and to be strong, but sometimes

the transition can take extra thought and care. Keep us posted on how you

do.

 

LaDonna

[Guest guest]

To add to LaDonna's thought too...

 

Meat protein takes longer to digest so it may be that your body is no longer

working as slowly on that particular project and needs to have more frequent

input. My foods and nutrition teacher used to say " there's a reason cows eat

all day long. "

 

BL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I don't know if I am not getting enough calories

or if I am not eating frequently enough...or maybe I'm missing

stuff

from my diet. I'm not totally sure...but I suspect it's that I

just

haven't eaten enough... Dan

 

 

That's totally possible Dan. When people first go vegan, they

often have trouble eating enough calories because they are

accustomed to getting their calories from higher fat sources.

There is only 4 calories in a gram of carbohydrate, whereas there

is 9 calories in a gram of fat, so the higher the percentage of

fat in a food, the less we need to eat of it to get enough

calories. So, you will probably need to eat more food than you

did previously.

 

Lots of people lose excess weight when they go vegan, that is of

course one of the perks for many people! :-)

 

Some vegans I know eat 4 meals per day. Me, I just eat a lot and

often. :-)

 

The experience of feeling taller is interesting. I find that I

feel taller when I'm rested, relaxed and feeling good. Our

intervertebral discs expand back into their normal shape while we

lie horizontal, and compress while we are vertical, so if you are

getting more rest than you used to, this may be allowing your

body to recover it's normal resiliency better. :-)

 

Deborah

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> Dan, I think you are correct in your assumption that you just need

to eat

> more of your vegan foods. Sometimes when we " go vegan " it is such a

drastic

> change that we forget about all the things we " can " eat and remain

free of

> animal products. My suggestion is that you explore new options in

vegan

> eating. . .and eat more of it. For awhile you may need to add an

extra

> " meal " in your day until your body adjusts. I really don't believe

that

> your body needs animal products to feel good and to be strong, but

sometimes

> the transition can take extra thought and care. Keep us posted on

how you

> do.

>

> LaDonna

 

LaDonna (and others),

 

Thanks for the advice (and the others as well!). Yesterday I doubled

the size of my breakfast and also made sure that I ate a few snacks as

well as meals during the day. It seemed to help - although I did take

a bit nap when I got home from work. I suspect that was really due

to the nature of my job yesterday though...anyway...I went to bed last

night, got up this morning and felt like I had just drank coffee.

I've been wide awake all day. Ate another large breakfast and my body

feels incredible. My mind is alert, my muscles feel good, I'm

standing taller, and I'm feeling just more comfortable in general.

Woohoo! I haven't felt the slightest bit dizzy after I increased my

food intake. Let's hope it continues! I still have my out of town

trip tomorrow and need to make sure that I have food with me that I

can have in the morning. We'll see what happens!

 

Dan

 

PS

Hopefully I will have some time soon to post one of my favorite

recipes - Spiced Basmati Rice. It's SUPER yummy! I forgot to bring

it to work with me today...oops.

[Guest guest]

Dan

 

Basmati is our favourite rice. We can get both brown and white.

 

I am glad to hear you are feeling better today.

 

One word of caution because this is a GF list as well. Many rices which say

" enriched " are coated with a barley enzyme to make them have more protein

content. If you aren't already, be sure to wash your enriched rices before use

so you don't get that barley in your system.

 

BL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> One word of caution because this is a GF list as well. Many rices

which say " enriched " are coated with a barley enzyme to make them have

more protein content. If you aren't already, be sure to wash your

enriched rices before use so you don't get that barley in your system.

>

> BL

>

 

REALLY??? This is the first time I have heard of this. Hmm...I have

been on that celiac list for years. I guess I missed it on their

list. Usually I eat sushi rice..but lately have started eating

basmati rice. Luckily I have been following the method laid out by

Madhur (sp?) Jaffrey which involves washing the rice 5 or 6 times

before you do anything with it. Would it be listed on the

ingredients? If it is, then I'm fine - I always check the label. But

if it isn't listen...I may be in trouble!

 

Thanks for the info!

 

Dan

[Guest guest]

Dan

 

Nearly all white rice in the US and Canada has to be enriched. Usually they say

this (enriched) but many imported rices do not have those words on them.

 

Better to wash rice no matter what and be safe than sorry.

 

My daughter had a regression and we traced it to the rice because we had

switched brands. Health Canada confirmed that enriching is usually barley.

 

I am not on the St. John's Celiac list so I don't know if they have made note of

it or not, nor if the Delphi list has, but it was brought to our attention about

3 years ago by people who had children allergic to gluten rather than with CD.

It is important info though.

 

BL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Wow! Thanks for the information. I had NO IDEA! Most of the rice I eat is

Japanese rice. I do know that there was some brand I was using often that had

some type of coating on it. I forget what it was exactly, but I know it was

corn based. How intereting...next time I go to the grocery store I will have to

read a bunch of labels for rice and see if it says anything about barley.

Thanks again!

 

Dan

 

 

> Dan

>

> Nearly all white rice in the US and Canada has to be enriched. Usually they

say this (enriched) but many imported rices do not have those words on them.

>

> Better to wash rice no matter what and be safe than sorry.

>

> My daughter had a regression and we traced it to the rice because we had

switched brands. Health Canada confirmed that enriching is usually barley.

>

> I am not on the St. John's Celiac list so I don't know if they have made note

of it or not, nor if the Delphi list has, but it was brought to our attention

about 3 years ago by people who had children allergic to gluten rather than with

CD. It is important info though.

>

> BL

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dan

 

Unfortunately American and Canadian law does not require the manufacture to

disclose exactly what is in the enriching solution because it is sprayed on.

Stating that the rice is enriched is sufficient. You probably won't find any

rice that states it has barley on it.

 

BL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 03:08 PM, dandoland wrote:

 

> Usually I eat sushi rice..but lately have started eating

> basmati rice. 

 

These probably aren't enriched. It's usually just the grocery store

standard tastless rice that gets enriched.

 

Lynn

[Guest guest]

fiona25 writes:

I need some ideas on how to tell my child's grandparent's that I want

him to be raised vegan. How do I go about setting up guidelines and

rules? What's the best way to explain the how's and why's of our new

lifestyle?

You might want to ask yourself why you are making that choice. Is it

eithical, spiritual, health, environmental, or a combo of several reasons.

Then get some info. from Physicians Committee for responsible medicine and

VRG(vegetarian resource group). When you ask the grandparents to honor your

choice, let them know that you will be happy to send food or give some options

for

shopping or eating out.

How old is your child? They soon get the idea of what they eat and what they

don't eat.

Be patient and make sure you have plenty of facts at your hand.

Both sets of grandparents are very respectful of our food choices for our

son. My husband is vegan though. Yet, when visiting my parents, we take a trip

to

the health food store at the begining of the trip and it flows nicely from

there.

Peace,

Laura

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I would suggest checking out the vegfamily.com website - it is for vegan

parents/families & there is a lot of good info on the discussions boards.

 

Christa

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Are they vegetarian? I don't know if they are meat eaters it might be hard.

But if they are already vegetarian they might be a little more vegan friendly.

Renee

 

veggieks2000 <fiona25 wrote:I need some ideas on how to tell my

child's grandparent's that I want

him to be raised vegan. How do I go about setting up guidelines and

rules? What's the best way to explain the how's and why's of our new

lifestyle? I am a single mom, and Nate's dad isn't vegan.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I don't think I'd really explain. Our son is a vegetarian, and we just state it

as fact. We don't really explain at all. His grandparents have not tried to

offer him meat. I don't know what will happen if they do. Actually, he hasn't

really been alone with them yet. I hope they would respect my wishes.

 

Jan

>

> " veggieks2000 " <fiona25

> 2003/10/08 Wed AM 11:49:28 EDT

>

> new vegan

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

A lot of how you handle this will depend on how well your family

accepts your own veganism (is that a word?). Besides that, your best

defence, as well as being in the best interest of you child, is to be

extremely well informed. Read all you can about nutrition, and show

them that you are handling this in a competent manner. As for the

child's father, as long as you have a good relationship with him,

communication and being well informed is in your best intrests as

well. Discuss your decission with him, give him books, or web sites

so he can also be as informed as possible. Good luck!

 

Leigh

[Guest guest]

greetings and welcome

 

 

>mssko <kobisson

>Mar 2, 2006 10:03 AM

>

> New Vegan

>

>Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not a

>vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new to

>me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of

>things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KO

>

>

>

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

welcome, tell us more............... The Valley Vegan............mssko <kobisson wrote: Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not a vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new to me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KOTo send an email to -

[Guest guest]

i thout this site was jist ment for vegans ???peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: welcome, tell us more............... The Valley Vegan............mssko <kobisson wrote: Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not a vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new to me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KOTo send an email to -

[Guest guest]

Hi and WELCOME!

 

We support all types of vegetarianism here and are always looking for

new discussions so feel free to start one (as you did) or join in

another going.

 

And let us know any way that we can help!

 

Nikki

 

, " mssko " <kobisson wrote:

>

> Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not a

> vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new

to

> me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of

> things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KO

>

[Guest guest]

It was hard for me when I first decided against consuming flesh. I was 15, living with my italian family and my grandmother who always cooked our meals. At first she asked me what I was going to eat and I told her anything but meat, I then got meat based gravy on my mashed potatoes and since the spaghetti gravy had pork and meatballs cooking in it she thought that picking those out was ok. I also found out that lacking in certain vitamins wasn't good so I had to learn about supplements also. Don't be discouraged, just remember the lives (including your own) and enviroment you are saving in the process and the land that will be spared when you forgoe flesh.

I shopped at the local mom & pop health food stores and there was help there. The employees would tell me what was good and what was loaded with nasty MSG (i.e. Worrthington and Loma Linda products).

This past summer I was at the Natural Products East expo and got to sample some yummy vegan fare. My favorites were the following:

Follow Your Heart Vegan cheese (it melts!)

Rice Dream /Celestial seasonings frozen peach desert

Gardenburger chick patties

Tofurkey slices Oven roasted, cranberry & stuffing, Philly steak (represent!!! forget Geno's & Pat's), Hickory Smoked, Italian (mmmmm!) and Peppered

Vegenaise

Liz Lovely Cookies (all of them!)

Alternative Baking Company

Primal Strips (my favorite are Thai & Mesquite Lime)

White Wave chicken style Seitan, Thai Baked Tofu, Silk Nog, Silk Live! smoothies (contains super good for you probiotics)

Yves Good Ground, Veggie Mexican (think chilli/crockpot), Pizza Peperoni, Canadian Veggie Bacon

Morningstar Farms Meal Starters

Amy's No Chicken Noodle Soup, chili, black bean veggie burrito

Fantastic veg chilli, Sloppy Joe

Terranostra chocolates (rice) milk chocolate

Moo Cluck (I can and will eat the cookie dough right from the tube, just watch!)

Dr Praeger's veggie burger

Health is Wealth chicken free nuggets (dipped in applesauce!), potstickers, spring rolls, veggie munchies

 

 

 

, "mssko" <kobisson wrote:>> Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not a > vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new to > me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of > things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KO>

[Guest guest]

Our home page says for vegans, vegetarians welcome. Whoever joins,

discussions must not cause offense or discomfort to vegans.

 

Jo

 

, louis stott <lsstott wrote:

>

> i thout this site was jist ment for vegans ???

>

> peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: welcome, tell us more...............

>

> The Valley Vegan............

>

> mssko <kobisson wrote:

> Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not a

> vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new to

> me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of

> things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KO

>

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

Though it is called Vegan Chat, on the homepage it does explain that

veggies are welcome too.

 

We do not like to exclude anyone.

 

Nikki

 

 

, louis stott <lsstott wrote:

>

> i thout this site was jist ment for vegans ???

>

> peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: welcome, tell us

more...............

>

> The Valley Vegan............

>

> mssko <kobisson wrote:

> Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not

a

> vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new

to

> me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of

> things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KO

>

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

 

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the great ideas!!! I really appreciate it. KO

 

On Behalf Of vivaconcordiaSaturday, March 04, 2006 2:21 AM Subject: Re: New Vegan

It was hard for me when I first decided against consuming flesh. I was 15, living with my italian family and my grandmother who always cooked our meals. At first she asked me what I was going to eat and I told her anything but meat, I then got meat based gravy on my mashed potatoes and since the spaghetti gravy had pork and meatballs cooking in it she thought that picking those out was ok. I also found out that lacking in certain vitamins wasn't good so I had to learn about supplements also. Don't be discouraged, just remember the lives (including your own) and enviroment you are saving in the process and the land that will be spared when you forgoe flesh.

I shopped at the local mom & pop health food stores and there was help there. The employees would tell me what was good and what was loaded with nasty MSG (i.e. Worrthington and Loma Linda products).

This past summer I was at the Natural Products East expo and got to sample some yummy vegan fare. My favorites were the following:

Follow Your Heart Vegan cheese (it melts!)

Rice Dream /Celestial seasonings frozen peach desert

Gardenburger chick patties

Tofurkey slices Oven roasted, cranberry & stuffing, Philly steak (represent!!! forget Geno's & Pat's), Hickory Smoked, Italian (mmmmm!) and Peppered

Vegenaise

Liz Lovely Cookies (all of them!)

Alternative Baking Company

Primal Strips (my favorite are Thai & Mesquite Lime)

White Wave chicken style Seitan, Thai Baked Tofu, Silk Nog, Silk Live! smoothies (contains super good for you probiotics)

Yves Good Ground, Veggie Mexican (think chilli/crockpot), Pizza Peperoni, Canadian Veggie Bacon

Morningstar Farms Meal Starters

Amy's No Chicken Noodle Soup, chili, black bean veggie burrito

Fantastic veg chilli, Sloppy Joe

Terranostra chocolates (rice) milk chocolate

Moo Cluck (I can and will eat the cookie dough right from the tube, just watch!)

Dr Praeger's veggie burger

Health is Wealth chicken free nuggets (dipped in applesauce!), potstickers, spring rolls, veggie munchies

 

 

 

 

 

, "mssko" <kobisson wrote:>> Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not a > vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new to > me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of > things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KO>

[Guest guest]

You are kidding right? KO

 

On Behalf Of louis stottFriday, March 03, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: Re: New Vegani thout this site was jist ment for vegans ???peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

welcome, tell us more...............

 

The Valley Vegan............mssko <kobisson wrote:

Hey all....I am a new member. I guess in the true sense I am not a vegan. I am trying to be total Vegetarian though and it is all new to me. I thought the sight would be more about the vegetarian side of things. Good idea for the tofurkey. KOTo send an email to -

[Guest guest]

Hi Kelly, Congratulations on going vegan! I don't any experience in your

situation, but a great book is out there by Carol Adams, " Living Among Meat

Eaters " It has a few chapters on dealing with family and partners. I have found

it really helpful in dealing with family and people I don't really know reacting

to my being vegan; I am sure she will have good advise for marriage. I hope

that helps!

 

angie.

 

 

" The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made for

humans any more than black people were made for whites or women for men. "

-alice walker

 

 

Kelly <FLuwrchLd

 

Saturday, February 9, 2008 10:38:15 PM

New Vegan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all, I am a brand new vegan, yay for me! I finally after a long

time

 

decided to take the step I have been wanting to take after a very long

 

time and go vegan. Does anyone have any experience with a spouse who is

 

a little unsuportive at first? How did you handle it when you first

 

told them? I just never went vegan before out of convience of my

 

husband and all our family members. He had asked me earlier if I wanted

 

to go to dinner tomorrow at his gandma's for chicken cutlets and

 

spaghetti. I said sure I will just have the spaghetti maybe. He got

 

angry, he told me that he is mad and he has a right to disagree. That

 

it's going to cause a problem with family members because I am now

 

making things difficult. This is the reason I never went vegan before,

 

because of everyone else. I wanted to just make life easy. I just feel

 

like it's not fair. I want to be healthier and feel better and try

 

something different he is upset? He says I am not the same person he

 

first met when we were dating and that I changed too much. I know men

 

dont like change too much but I just pray he'll get used to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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