TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!!

[Guest guest]

thanks Sparrow: "[tvp] an expanded, spongy yet fibrous lamination of thermoplastic [yum - I get hungry just reading this] soy flour which takes on the various shapes of the die..."

William Thomas Atkinson. A.E. Staley corporation held the use patent and Ralston Purina [ah-ha, the essence of cat food is understandable] corporation held the process patent."

 

-

Sparrow R Jones

Monday, June 23, 2008 4:14 PM

Re: I'm really dont know

 

 

On 6/23/08, Janet Coe Hammond <janetcoe (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:>> I just sub cooked lentils or black beans for TVP.That's a great idea! Thanks. I don't like TVP, myself. I think ittastes like cat food. (And yes, I've tasted cat food. I was a strangechild.)> Does anyone know anything about what TVP is and how it is made?It's a by-product of making soybean oil. There is a reasonablydetailed explanation of the manufacturing process here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textured_vegetable_proteinSparrow

[Guest guest]

On 6/23/08, Janet Coe Hammond <janetcoe wrote:

>

> Ralston Purina [ah-ha, the essence of cat food is understandable]

> corporation held the process patent. "

 

So, in other words, TVP is Purina People Chow? Sort of a soylent brown, I guess.

 

I'm not going to diss it though; I know a lot of people really love

it. I think I probably just have " off " taste buds. And words like

" thermoplastic " and " extrusion " sound creepier than they really are.

 

I'm thrilled at the idea of subbing lentils or black beans, though,

because there is a recipe on a sort of post-punk cooking DVD I have

for " Eviction Day Sloppy Joes " (the idea being that they're so cheap

to make you can even eat them right before you get evicted and go to

live under a bridge. LOL) that look pretty awsome (exceedingly spicy

hot) but use TVP. I'm going to try the recipe with lentils! Yay!

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

I don't know how you prepare tvp.But if you soak it in hot water for a few minutes; rinse it thoroughly until the water comes clear and then squeeze it so all the water comes out. Then only add it to your food as if it were meat, it hardly has any taste at all and will absorve any seasoning you add to it.I served a vegan version of spaghetti a la carbonara to my very picky non-veg sister and she said that if I hadnt told her it was tvp, she wouldnt have noticed. :PCheers,Beatriz--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote:Sparrow R Jones <sparrowroseRe: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!! Date:

Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 1:45 AM

 

On 6/23/08, Janet Coe Hammond <janetcoe (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

>

> Ralston Purina [ah-ha, the essence of cat food is understandable]

> corporation held the process patent."

 

So, in other words, TVP is Purina People Chow? Sort of a soylent brown, I guess.

 

I'm not going to diss it though; I know a lot of people really love

it. I think I probably just have "off" taste buds. And words like

"thermoplastic" and "extrusion" sound creepier than they really are.

 

I'm thrilled at the idea of subbing lentils or black beans, though,

because there is a recipe on a sort of post-punk cooking DVD I have

for "Eviction Day Sloppy Joes" (the idea being that they're so cheap

to make you can even eat them right before you get evicted and go to

live under a bridge. LOL) that look pretty awsome (exceedingly spicy

hot) but use TVP. I'm going to try the recipe with lentils! Yay!

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

On 6/24/08, Beatriz <searchingalight wrote:

>

> I don't know how you prepare tvp.

 

I followed the package directions . . .

 

> But if you soak it in hot water for a few minutes; rinse it

> thoroughly until the water comes clear and then squeeze it

> so all the water comes out.

 

.. . . which said nothing about rinsing and squeezing. Just soaking in

hot water until hydrated.

 

The aforementioned sloppy joe recipe from the DVD has the preparer

throwing the dried, unsoaked, unrinsed, unsqueezed granules right into

the pot.

 

> I served a vegan version of spaghetti a la carbonara to my very

> picky non-veg sister and she said that if I hadnt told her it was

> tvp, she wouldnt have noticed.

 

Doesn't carbonara use fatty pork, not beef crumbles? And how could you

substitute the cheese effectively in a vegan manner? I'm sure I would

have noticed that it wasn't really pasta carbonara (though it probably

tasted excellent.)

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Or what I do is just add lots of flavoring to the water I use to make it — you can use veggie broth, add soy sauce or spices — depends on what I’m using it in. Cumin is nice in it, too, especially if it’s to be used in a Mexican recipe.

 

Anna

 

 

On 24/6/08 10:10 PM, " Beatriz " <searchingalight wrote:

 

I don't know how you prepare tvp.

But if you soak it in hot water for a few minutes; rinse it thoroughly until the water comes clear and then squeeze it so all the water comes out. Then only add it to your food as if it were meat, it hardly has any taste at all and will absorve any seasoning you add to it.

I served a vegan version of spaghetti a la carbonara to my very picky non-veg sister and she said that if I hadnt told her it was tvp, she wouldnt have noticed.

 

Cheers,

Beatriz

 

---

[Guest guest]

> So, in other words, TVP is Purina People Chow? Sort of a soylent

brown, I guess.

 

In this house we refer to the chunk sized tvp as Gravy Train, because it

not only looks but smells like it. Tasty in a stew, though.

 

 

 

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

> . . . which said nothing about rinsing and squeezing. Just soaking in

> hot water until hydrated.

 

I've been using TVP since the 70's and never rinsed or squeezed, either.

 

 

 

> The aforementioned sloppy joe recipe from the DVD has the preparer

> throwing the dried, unsoaked, unrinsed, unsqueezed granules right into

> the pot.

 

That's how I usually use the granules, unless otherwise directed.

Bryanna Clark Grogan and Jo Stepaniak have loads of recipes using TVP

and it's usually rehydrated then added to loaf recipes, but soups &

stew-type foods, I just toss it in.

 

The larger chunk size I *always* rehydrate first and not just by soaking

but boiling for a bit (5-10 minutes) and discarding the water. It really

helps cut down on the " toot " factor.

 

 

 

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

New name for TVP will be PPC (purina people chow) - haha!!!

 

 

-

Sue in NJ

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:49 AM

Re: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!!

 

 

> So, in other words, TVP is Purina People Chow? Sort of a soylentbrown, I guess.In this house we refer to the chunk sized tvp as Gravy Train, because itnot only looks but smells like it. Tasty in a stew, though. :)Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

How about sharing the eviction-day recipe?

 

 

-

Sparrow R Jones

Monday, June 23, 2008 10:45 PM

Re: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!!

 

 

On 6/23/08, Janet Coe Hammond <janetcoe (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:>> Ralston Purina [ah-ha, the essence of cat food is understandable]> corporation held the process patent."So, in other words, TVP is Purina People Chow? Sort of a soylent brown, I guess.I'm not going to diss it though; I know a lot of people really loveit. I think I probably just have "off" taste buds. And words like"thermoplastic" and "extrusion" sound creepier than they really are.I'm thrilled at the idea of subbing lentils or black beans, though,because there is a recipe on a sort of post-punk cooking DVD I havefor "Eviction Day Sloppy Joes" (the idea being that they're so cheapto make you can even eat them right before you get evicted and go tolive under a bridge. LOL) that look pretty awsome (exceedingly spicyhot) but use TVP. I'm going to try the recipe with lentils! Yay!Sparrow

[Guest guest]

If you all recommend it (TVP/PPC), I think I will step out of my comfort zone & try it! What recipe do you have that will win me over?

Smiles,

Janet

 

 

-

Coop

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:49 AM

Re: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!!

 

 

Or what I do is just add lots of flavoring to the water I use to make it — you can use veggie broth, add soy sauce or spices — depends on what I’m using it in. Cumin is nice in it, too, especially if it’s to be used in a Mexican recipe.AnnaOn 24/6/08 10:10 PM, "Beatriz" <searchingalight > wrote:

I don't know how you prepare tvp.But if you soak it in hot water for a few minutes; rinse it thoroughly until the water comes clear and then squeeze it so all the water comes out. Then only add it to your food as if it were meat, it hardly has any taste at all and will absorve any seasoning you add to it.I served a vegan version of spaghetti a la carbonara to my very picky non-veg sister and she said that if I hadnt told her it was tvp, she wouldnt have noticed. :PCheers,Beatriz---

[Guest guest]

On 6/24/08, Janet Coe Hammond <janetcoe wrote:

>

> How about sharing the eviction-day recipe?

 

Okay. This is from the DVD " Vegan Cooking for Animal Lovers. "

 

First, my impromptu review of the DVD: The host of this DVD favors

hearty recipes and complains about vegan foods that are little more

than salads. He is obviously very comfortable in his kitchen and

creates masterpiece dishes like stroganoffs and a creamy cookie

cheesecake. His demonstrations are useful. In particular, watching how

quick and easy it was for him to make seitan is what finally gave me

the inspiration and courage to try it myself.

 

On the fat front, most of his recipes require significant modification

as the host loads on the fatty foods. The host is especially fond of

dairy analogues so those living in parts of the world where these are

not available will have to pass on these recipes or learn ways to

imitate commercial dairy analogues using more readily available foods,

such as tofu (provided these are available where the individual

lives.) The DVD is amusing and informative but an important caveat is

that the host uses very foul language with great regularity so those

who can't or don't want to overlook blue language should pass on this

one.

 

Now, here's the recipe as he's written/spoken it (with the curse words

removed). Ingredients transcribed from a list on the screen,

directions transcribed from his spoken word as preparing it.)

 

Eviction Notice Sloppy Joes

 

You will need:

- Chopped onion

- 1 hour [these are some spicy ****ing sloppy joes. If you are not

actually being evicted, maybe tone down the spiciness and half the

peppers and chili pepper]

- Tub of Earth balance at your side

- 1 lb of TVP flakes [this is 8 cups, dude]

- 8 cups of hot water

- bottle of Heinz 57 Ketchup [maybe two if you love ketchup]

- small can of tomato paste

- 1 green pepper, diced in medium pieces

- 1 jalapeno pepper [optional]

- 1 serrano pepper [optional]

- 3 1/2 TB chipotle chili powder or regular chili powder

- 2 tsp cayenne pepper [optional]

- 2 TB garlic salt

- bulb of garlic [just peel them, don't chop 'em]

- dash of Tabasco

 

Directions:

 

These are the sloppy joes that you eat when you get evicted.

[explanation of what TVP is] It's awesome, especially if you've just

been evicted because your roomate's stealing your rent. [explanation

of different kind of peppers] [demonstration of ingredients.] We're

gonna throw it on the stove and wait an hour and eat some Eviction

Notice TVPs because I can hear the landlord coming. So let's get

started.

 

We're going to need a little bit of something to grease that pan (he's

using a big enamelled pot) to saute that onion. In it goes, 8 cups, 8

****ing cups of TVP. So, I mean, that's going to get, kinda toasty in

there. Get all that Earth Balance, onion coated around. Put in some of

our spices. I like to put all my spices in when I'm making a dish like

this before I put most of my liquid in. Sort of weigh out just how

much of that dry ingredient I have in here.

 

(opens ketchup) We're going to basically use this whole ****ing thing.

(squeezes ketchup noisily.) (Continues to stir mixture) This is really

weird. It's sort almost reminding me of cereal right now. Like I've

got this big pot of hot spicy cereal on the ****ing stove. With onions

in it? ****ing gross!

 

So, I've got my serrano peppers and jalapeno peppers. Jalapeno cut up

really small, serrano not so small. I'll put those in here, too.

(stirs some more). Eight cups of water, preferably hot. Get our tomato

paste. (adds it in)

 

I think all in all, if you added up the cost of all these ingredients

- and henceforth the name Eviction Notice Sloppy Joes - it's probably

gonna cost about five dollars and that five dollars is going to feed

you for days, possibly weeks. I mean eight cups of TVP and eight cups

of water, it's gonna be just this thick awesomeness.

 

I'm gonna put in more sauce - get some tabasco in there. And a little

more of this chipotle. Hmm.. maybe some more ketchup. Let me see if I

can summon the powers of ketchup . .. yes! (adds a second bottle.)

(Waxes rhapsodic about the glories of Heinz ketchup.)

 

So . . I actually just brought the cost of this meal up to about $6.50

with the second ketchup. On the stove for about an hour. This is going

to reduce down. You might want to try it especially if you just dump

in a bunch of spices and have no idea of what it's gonna turn out

like. This is gonna be pretty gross because dry TVP tastes like ****.

(tastes it)

 

Cool! That is spicy! aah! Good, cause the fire in the belly is gonna

get you going, providing a new place or a bridge to sleep under or

something. It'll keep you warm.

 

It's gonna be on for about an hour, then we'll come back and check it out.

 

(finishes segment, puts sloppy joes on buns. Eats. Warns not to add

too much spice to these suckers.)

 

(rants about his roommate stealing the rent and getting them evicted.

Rather entertaining.)

 

(Close up shot of food. Looks pretty darned good.)

 

-=-

 

There you have it. I would edit it into a more traditional format

recipe, but I'm running on about 1.5 hours sleep today and that's

enough for me.

 

Obvious change: no Earth Balance. Just saute the onions in their own

ntural oils and then dry-saute the TVP. Other change: I know he loves

Heinz, but I'll be using a ketchup with less sugar. I can see maybe

even throwing in a couple of chopped fresh tomatoes.

 

I don't know what serrano peppers are. They looked like bell peppers.

Since he kept commenting on how hot and spicy it was, I'll probably

use bell peppers even if serranos are hot peppers.

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Hey, Sparrow,

 

Does this cook/dvd usually do such large amounts? I have it on my

Netflix rental list, but I just cook for myself. So if all the recipes

are so large, it wouldn't be very helpful for me (my freezer isn't

THAT big!).

 

Mindle

 

, " Sparrow R Jones "

<sparrowrose wrote:

>

> On 6/24/08, Janet Coe Hammond <janetcoe wrote:

> >

> > How about sharing the eviction-day recipe?

>

> Okay. This is from the DVD " Vegan Cooking for Animal Lovers. "

>

 

 

(excessive quoting deleted)

[Guest guest]

I'm definitely not a fan of TVP and I think that things like Morningstar

Crumbles and Boca Meatless Burger are far better tasting. TVP is certainly

less expensive and I've tried to like it, but I would rather eat dirt ;o)

That's just my 2 cents worth.

 

 

Jennifer

[Guest guest]

I so much agree with you, Jennifer. I LOVE wheat berries or cracked wheat in my chili, sloppy joes, etc... And the lentil and beans as replacements are good too. But TVP? I think I would have to go for the dirt. )

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

"Live out of your imagination, not your history." ~~ Stephen Covey

 

 

 

-

Jennifer Smith

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:41 PM

Re: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!!

 

 

I'm definitely not a fan of TVP and I think that things like MorningstarCrumbles and Boca Meatless Burger are far better tasting. TVP is certainlyless expensive and I've tried to like it, but I would rather eat dirt ;o)That's just my 2 cents worth.Jennifer

[Guest guest]

On 6/24/08, saramindle <saramindle wrote:

>

> Hey, Sparrow,

>

> Does this cook/dvd usually do such large amounts? I have it on my

> Netflix rental list, but I just cook for myself. So if all the recipes

> are so large, it wouldn't be very helpful for me (my freezer isn't

> THAT big!).

 

Hi, Mindle

 

Yeah, most of his recipes are big, like the Seitan Stroganof is a huge

pot. I figured if I made it (subbing out the tofutti sour cream for

homemade tofu sour cream) I would just cut the recipe down. I think

some stuff is for about four people but mostly he seems to be cooking

for a potluck or something. The cheesecake is just regular cheesecake

sized (but he makes two at once) but once you sub out the tofutti for

lower fat stuff it's probably a cheesecake recipe like many others out

there.

 

Since I've now had a nap (hurrah!) let me just put in the DVD and look

at all of the recipes. This will also give you a better idea of

whether you want to keep it in your queue as far as the type of

recipes he has.

 

* Hail Seitan - uses 1.5 cups gluten flour so maybe four servings? (he

doesn't usually give such mundane info as servings. He's all

anarchically post-punk, dude. :-)

 

* Tamil Tiger Rice - 3 cups rice, 3 cans coconut milk (not for me,

thanks), 2 can chick peas ummm... what's that? 9? 10 servings? (I'm

estimating servings as if it's a one-dish dinner 'cause that's what I

usually do. Like tonight was quinoa pilaf - not as a side, that was it

for me.)

 

* Seitan Strokin' Off (yeah, he's a little crude) - 1/2 box of springy

pasta, 1.5 to 2 pounds seitan, one bag frozen peas (he's neither

gourmet nor health-conscious. If you are either, expect to do a little

subbing if you use his recipes) I'm guessing this is, what, 8

servings?

 

* Cool Hand Cookie Cheesecake - 2 graham cracker crusts, 2 containers

tofutti cream cheese, one box firm silken tofu (here's a tip on his

views on low-fat " don't $%^ & with the lite or low cal $%^ & " I expect

he'll change that tune when he gets older and it all starts catching

up with him.), 12 Newman O's. Makes two pies.

 

* Eviction Notice Sloppy Joes - already been there, done that.

 

* When Spud Gets Off Heroin This Is the Potato Salad He Will Eat (Spud

is a heroin-addicted character in the movie " Trainspotting. " It took

me a while to figure out the name of this recipe so I thought I'd

share in case anyone else was wondering.) - 5 to 6 potatoes, 2 cups

vegenaise (oh, yeah, there's a low-fat substitution begging to

happen!) so, um, what's that? 8 servings? In fairness, this one looks

like a pretty intense potato salad. Green onions, celery, red pepper,

minced carrot, roasted garlic, paprika, turmeric, crushed red pepper,

thyme, dill, sage, mustard powder, Old Bay seasoning (never heard of

this before).

 

* Vegetable Medley of Hardcore Gaiety - 2 cucumbers, 3 tomatoes, 2

cans of chick peas, 2 cans of black olives . . . so 8 servings? This

is entirely a chop and open cans recipe. I like having big bowls of

salady things in my fridge that I can dip into for several days. I

don't see that much black olive happening in my near future, though.

I'd probably sub in black beans. This kind of salady thing is a

no-brainer, though. I put these things together of random stuff all

the time.

 

* Free Noreiga Wraps (he admits he has no real idea of the politics

surrounding Noreiga. " I think that Reagan hated Noreiga and anything

against Reagan is punk rock, right? " ) - basically a " mock tuna salad "

(one can chickpeas) wrapped in nori, steamed. This is one of his

smaller recipes, I'd guess 4 servings? Maybe 8 servings? I have no

idea. I'm definitely going to make these at some point. They look

pretty good and he says they're good warm or cold. ( " I wonder what

Noriega did? he was, like, a drug trafficker or a hater of the U.S.,

maybe a communist, something like that? All I know is that there were

some Noriega trials or something or other. I don't know too much on

the South American politics in the Eighties, you know. But, you know,

whatever. I hear Noriega's out, uh, he's going to get out of prison in

'07. That'll be sweet. Reagan's gonna be rollin' over in his grave. " )

 

(Yeah, I just had to share some of the " color " of the DVD. The host is

rather chatty about, um, stuff, dude. I was glad I got it, just to be

amused by him.)

 

* Mushroom Mosh Pit-tatoes - 8 to 10 potatoes, a pound of mushrooms.

Prepare to be stunned by how much Earth Balance (about 1 cup!) he uses

to saute his onions. " This is a whole lot of potato. " No duh. This is

like a 9x13 casserole of baked creamy mushroom potato thing.

 

* F$%^ Nazi Sympathy BBQ Tofu - (named because he gets some kind of

Buddhist BBQ sauce with a swastika on it. It looks pretty tasty,

though. He mentions where to mail order the sauce.) 2 blocks of

frozen, defrosted tofu, 1 can navy beans. " Look at that. That can

feed, like, ten people or, I don't know, two Hardliners after a show. "

(I assume he's talking about the Canadian punk band.) He does mention

that he's doubling his usual recipe.

 

* Tiamat's Pina Colada Pie - two-pie sized, again. Two graham cracker

crusts, crushed pineapple, 2 cans coconut milk, 1 cup shredded

coconut.

 

Hope this is helpful and not overkill!

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

Hi Sparrow

What is the dude's name?

Any chance to find some excerpts on youtube or so?

Thanks,

Beatriz

 

--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote:

Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose

Re: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!!

 

Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 3:31 PM

 

On 6/24/08, Janet Coe Hammond <janetcoe (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

 

>

 

> How about sharing the eviction-day recipe?

 

 

 

Okay. This is from the DVD " Vegan Cooking for Animal Lovers. "

 

 

 

 

 

(excessive quoting removed by mod)

[Guest guest]

Hello!

 

Iam susanna from nashua NH and I have tons of TVP and would like to make some burgers?? But dont know how too?? I need some reciepes Please!!--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Beatriz <searchingalight wrote:

Beatriz <searchingalightRe: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!! Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 5:59 AM

 

 

Hi SparrowWhat is the dude's name?Any chance to find some excerpts on youtube or so?Thanks,Beatriz--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose@ gmail.com> wrote:Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose@ gmail.com>Re: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!!Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 3:31 PMOn 6/24/08, Janet Coe Hammond <janetcoe (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:>> How about sharing the eviction-day recipe?Okay. This is from the DVD "Vegan Cooking for Animal Lovers."(excessive quoting removed by mod)

[Guest guest]

Could this be from the video you mentioned?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgW3m_voAYE--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote:Sparrow R Jones <sparrowroseRe: Re: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!! Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:11 AM

 

On 6/24/08, saramindle <saramindle > wrote:

>

> Hey, Sparrow,

>

> Does this cook/dvd usually do such large amounts? I have it on my

> Netflix rental list, but I just cook for myself. So if all the recipes

> are so large, it wouldn't be very helpful for me (my freezer isn't

> THAT big!).

 

Hi, Mindle

 

Yeah, most of his recipes are big, like the Seitan Stroganof is a huge

pot. I figured if I made it (subbing out the tofutti sour cream for

homemade tofu sour cream) I would just cut the recipe down. I think

some stuff is for about four people but mostly he seems to be cooking

for a potluck or something. The cheesecake is just regular cheesecake

sized (but he makes two at once) but once you sub out the tofutti for

lower fat stuff it's probably a cheesecake recipe like many others out

there.

 

Since I've now had a nap (hurrah!) let me just put in the DVD and look

at all of the recipes. This will also give you a better idea of

whether you want to keep it in your queue as far as the type of

recipes he has.

 

* Hail Seitan - uses 1.5 cups gluten flour so maybe four servings? (he

doesn't usually give such mundane info as servings. He's all

anarchically post-punk, dude. :-)

 

* Tamil Tiger Rice - 3 cups rice, 3 cans coconut milk (not for me,

thanks), 2 can chick peas ummm... what's that? 9? 10 servings? (I'm

estimating servings as if it's a one-dish dinner 'cause that's what I

usually do. Like tonight was quinoa pilaf - not as a side, that was it

for me.)

 

* Seitan Strokin' Off (yeah, he's a little crude) - 1/2 box of springy

pasta, 1.5 to 2 pounds seitan, one bag frozen peas (he's neither

gourmet nor health-conscious. If you are either, expect to do a little

subbing if you use his recipes) I'm guessing this is, what, 8

servings?

 

* Cool Hand Cookie Cheesecake - 2 graham cracker crusts, 2 containers

tofutti cream cheese, one box firm silken tofu (here's a tip on his

views on low-fat "don't $%^ & with the lite or low cal $%^ & " I expect

he'll change that tune when he gets older and it all starts catching

up with him.), 12 Newman O's. Makes two pies.

 

* Eviction Notice Sloppy Joes - already been there, done that.

 

* When Spud Gets Off Heroin This Is the Potato Salad He Will Eat (Spud

is a heroin-addicted character in the movie "Trainspotting. " It took

me a while to figure out the name of this recipe so I thought I'd

share in case anyone else was wondering.) - 5 to 6 potatoes, 2 cups

vegenaise (oh, yeah, there's a low-fat substitution begging to

happen!) so, um, what's that? 8 servings? In fairness, this one looks

like a pretty intense potato salad. Green onions, celery, red pepper,

minced carrot, roasted garlic, paprika, turmeric, crushed red pepper,

thyme, dill, sage, mustard powder, Old Bay seasoning (never heard of

this before).

 

* Vegetable Medley of Hardcore Gaiety - 2 cucumbers, 3 tomatoes, 2

cans of chick peas, 2 cans of black olives . . . so 8 servings? This

is entirely a chop and open cans recipe. I like having big bowls of

salady things in my fridge that I can dip into for several days. I

don't see that much black olive happening in my near future, though.

I'd probably sub in black beans. This kind of salady thing is a

no-brainer, though. I put these things together of random stuff all

the time.

 

* Free Noreiga Wraps (he admits he has no real idea of the politics

surrounding Noreiga. "I think that Reagan hated Noreiga and anything

against Reagan is punk rock, right?") - basically a "mock tuna salad"

(one can chickpeas) wrapped in nori, steamed. This is one of his

smaller recipes, I'd guess 4 servings? Maybe 8 servings? I have no

idea. I'm definitely going to make these at some point. They look

pretty good and he says they're good warm or cold. ("I wonder what

Noriega did? he was, like, a drug trafficker or a hater of the U.S.,

maybe a communist, something like that? All I know is that there were

some Noriega trials or something or other. I don't know too much on

the South American politics in the Eighties, you know. But, you know,

whatever. I hear Noriega's out, uh, he's going to get out of prison in

'07. That'll be sweet. Reagan's gonna be rollin' over in his grave.")

 

(Yeah, I just had to share some of the "color" of the DVD. The host is

rather chatty about, um, stuff, dude. I was glad I got it, just to be

amused by him.)

 

* Mushroom Mosh Pit-tatoes - 8 to 10 potatoes, a pound of mushrooms.

Prepare to be stunned by how much Earth Balance (about 1 cup!) he uses

to saute his onions. "This is a whole lot of potato." No duh. This is

like a 9x13 casserole of baked creamy mushroom potato thing.

 

* F$%^ Nazi Sympathy BBQ Tofu - (named because he gets some kind of

Buddhist BBQ sauce with a swastika on it. It looks pretty tasty,

though. He mentions where to mail order the sauce.) 2 blocks of

frozen, defrosted tofu, 1 can navy beans. "Look at that. That can

feed, like, ten people or, I don't know, two Hardliners after a show."

(I assume he's talking about the Canadian punk band.) He does mention

that he's doubling his usual recipe.

 

* Tiamat's Pina Colada Pie - two-pie sized, again. Two graham cracker

crusts, crushed pineapple, 2 cans coconut milk, 1 cup shredded

coconut.

 

Hope this is helpful and not overkill!

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

> Since I've now had a nap (hurrah!) let me just put in the DVD and look

> at all of the recipes. This will also give you a better idea of

> whether you want to keep it in your queue as far as the type of

> recipes he has.

 

Thanks for the review. These recipes look like things my 24 year old son

would enjoy.

 

 

> * When Spud Gets Off Heroin This Is the Potato Salad He Will Eat (Spud

> is a heroin-addicted character in the movie " Trainspotting. " It took

> me a while to figure out the name of this recipe so I thought I'd

> share in case anyone else was wondering.)

 

I thought it was his room mate who got them evicted. Never saw that

movie.

 

 

> Old Bay seasoning (never heard of

> this before).

 

Usually used as a seasoning for fish. Around here the company is really

pushing it - everywhere I went the past 2 weks there are billboards up

pushing this stuff. I have a box in my cabinet I bought for one recipe

about a year ago and haven't used it since.

 

 

> (Yeah, I just had to share some of the " color " of the DVD. The host is

> rather chatty about, um, stuff, dude. I was glad I got it, just to be

> amused by him.)

 

Without even seeing it, I'm guessing the dude is a 30-something fellow

who's trying to make himself appear much younger? LOL

 

 

 

> * Mushroom Mosh Pit-tatoes - 8 to 10 potatoes, a pound of mushrooms.

> Prepare to be stunned by how much Earth Balance (about 1 cup!) he uses

> to saute his onions. " This is a whole lot of potato. " No duh. This is

> like a 9x13 casserole of baked creamy mushroom potato thing.

 

('cuse me while I wipe the drool from my lips) My goodness! If I served

this to my husband he would die happy! LOL

 

 

> Hope this is helpful and not overkill!

 

Not at all! A WONDERFUL review! I wish all DVD reviewers were as

thorough as this. Thanks!

 

Now we just need details, like the guy's name and where to buy it, for

those of us who feel compelled to alter these recipes to make them a bit

healthier.

 

 

 

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

>If you all recommend it (TVP/PPC),

 

Well, not everyone is convinced it's a safe food that should be eaten,

especially Dr. McDougall. The past few years he's changed his mind about

soy protein isolates and now says they're to be avoided. Since TVP lasts

practically forever I still have a lot around the house, in many sizes

and flavors, but don't plan on buying any more when these are all gone.

 

That said, it's great to toss a handful of unflavored granules into

existing chili and stew recipes. In most places where it calls for

ground beef you can use rehydrated tvp granules.

 

 

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

Wow! Thank you for including all that! That must have taken a fair

chunk of time! Now I definitely don't need to get the dvd, since it is

obvious there is nothing in there that I would have resources or need

to make. Thanks again!

 

Mindle

 

, " Sparrow R Jones "

<sparrowrose wrote:

>

> On 6/24/08, saramindle <saramindle wrote:

> >

> > Hey, Sparrow,

> >

> > Does this cook/dvd usually do such large amounts? I have it on my

> > Netflix rental list, but I just cook for myself. So if all the recipes

> > are so large, it wouldn't be very helpful for me (my freezer isn't

> > THAT big!).

>

> Hi, Mindle

>

> Yeah, most of his recipes are big, like the Seitan Stroganof is a huge

> pot. I figured if I made it (subbing out the tofutti sour cream for

> homemade tofu sour cream) I would just cut the recipe down. I think

> some stuff is for about four people but mostly he seems to be cooking

> for a potluck or something. The cheesecake is just regular cheesecake

> sized (but he makes two at once) but once you sub out the tofutti for

> lower fat stuff it's probably a cheesecake recipe like many others out

> there.

>

> Since I've now had a nap (hurrah!) let me just put in the DVD and look

> at all of the recipes. This will also give you a better idea of

> whether you want to keep it in your queue as far as the type of

> recipes he has.

>

> * Hail Seitan - uses 1.5 cups gluten flour so maybe four servings? (he

> doesn't usually give such mundane info as servings. He's all

> anarchically post-punk, dude. :-)

>

> * Tamil Tiger Rice - 3 cups rice, 3 cans coconut milk (not for me,

> thanks), 2 can chick peas ummm... what's that? 9? 10 servings? (I'm

> estimating servings as if it's a one-dish dinner 'cause that's what I

> usually do. Like tonight was quinoa pilaf - not as a side, that was it

> for me.)

>

> * Seitan Strokin' Off (yeah, he's a little crude) - 1/2 box of springy

> pasta, 1.5 to 2 pounds seitan, one bag frozen peas (he's neither

> gourmet nor health-conscious. If you are either, expect to do a little

> subbing if you use his recipes) I'm guessing this is, what, 8

> servings?

>

> * Cool Hand Cookie Cheesecake - 2 graham cracker crusts, 2 containers

> tofutti cream cheese, one box firm silken tofu (here's a tip on his

> views on low-fat " don't $%^ & with the lite or low cal $%^ & " I expect

> he'll change that tune when he gets older and it all starts catching

> up with him.), 12 Newman O's. Makes two pies.

>

> * Eviction Notice Sloppy Joes - already been there, done that.

>

> * When Spud Gets Off Heroin This Is the Potato Salad He Will Eat (Spud

> is a heroin-addicted character in the movie " Trainspotting. " It took

> me a while to figure out the name of this recipe so I thought I'd

> share in case anyone else was wondering.) - 5 to 6 potatoes, 2 cups

> vegenaise (oh, yeah, there's a low-fat substitution begging to

> happen!) so, um, what's that? 8 servings? In fairness, this one looks

> like a pretty intense potato salad. Green onions, celery, red pepper,

> minced carrot, roasted garlic, paprika, turmeric, crushed red pepper,

> thyme, dill, sage, mustard powder, Old Bay seasoning (never heard of

> this before).

>

> * Vegetable Medley of Hardcore Gaiety - 2 cucumbers, 3 tomatoes, 2

> cans of chick peas, 2 cans of black olives . . . so 8 servings? This

> is entirely a chop and open cans recipe. I like having big bowls of

> salady things in my fridge that I can dip into for several days. I

> don't see that much black olive happening in my near future, though.

> I'd probably sub in black beans. This kind of salady thing is a

> no-brainer, though. I put these things together of random stuff all

> the time.

>

> * Free Noreiga Wraps (he admits he has no real idea of the politics

> surrounding Noreiga. " I think that Reagan hated Noreiga and anything

> against Reagan is punk rock, right? " ) - basically a " mock tuna salad "

> (one can chickpeas) wrapped in nori, steamed. This is one of his

> smaller recipes, I'd guess 4 servings? Maybe 8 servings? I have no

> idea. I'm definitely going to make these at some point. They look

> pretty good and he says they're good warm or cold. ( " I wonder what

> Noriega did? he was, like, a drug trafficker or a hater of the U.S.,

> maybe a communist, something like that? All I know is that there were

> some Noriega trials or something or other. I don't know too much on

> the South American politics in the Eighties, you know. But, you know,

> whatever. I hear Noriega's out, uh, he's going to get out of prison in

> '07. That'll be sweet. Reagan's gonna be rollin' over in his grave. " )

>

> (Yeah, I just had to share some of the " color " of the DVD. The host is

> rather chatty about, um, stuff, dude. I was glad I got it, just to be

> amused by him.)

>

> * Mushroom Mosh Pit-tatoes - 8 to 10 potatoes, a pound of mushrooms.

> Prepare to be stunned by how much Earth Balance (about 1 cup!) he uses

> to saute his onions. " This is a whole lot of potato. " No duh. This is

> like a 9x13 casserole of baked creamy mushroom potato thing.

>

> * F$%^ Nazi Sympathy BBQ Tofu - (named because he gets some kind of

> Buddhist BBQ sauce with a swastika on it. It looks pretty tasty,

> though. He mentions where to mail order the sauce.) 2 blocks of

> frozen, defrosted tofu, 1 can navy beans. " Look at that. That can

> feed, like, ten people or, I don't know, two Hardliners after a show. "

> (I assume he's talking about the Canadian punk band.) He does mention

> that he's doubling his usual recipe.

>

> * Tiamat's Pina Colada Pie - two-pie sized, again. Two graham cracker

> crusts, crushed pineapple, 2 cans coconut milk, 1 cup shredded

> coconut.

>

> Hope this is helpful and not overkill!

>

> Sparrow

>

[Guest guest]

On 6/25/08, Beatriz <searchingalight wrote:

>

> Could this be from the video you mentioned?

>

 

Yup, that's the one.

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

On 6/25/08, Sue in NJ <sue_in_nj wrote:

>

> Now we just need details, like the guy's name and where to buy it, for

> those of us who feel compelled to alter these recipes to make them a bit

> healthier.

 

He calls himself " The Hardcore Chef " (it turns out he's 27 so you made

a fair guess as to his age) and I'm not sure what his name is other

than The Hardcore Chef. The DVD ( " Vegan Cooking for Animal Lovers " ) is

available for rental on Netflix and for purchase ($15) from the punk

film distributors Halo 8 (also the distributors of the film " Your

Mommy Kills Animals " about PETA and the controversy surrounding some

of their publicity methods. I haven't yet seen YMKA, but I've heard it

offers good balance in reporting differing viewpoints.)

http://www.halo8.tv/

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

On 6/25/08, saramindle <saramindle wrote:

>

> Wow! Thank you for including all that! That must have taken a fair

> chunk of time! Now I definitely don't need to get the dvd, since it is

> obvious there is nothing in there that I would have resources or need

> to make. Thanks again!

 

You're welcome. (I type fast and I felt like watching the DVD again.

The Hardcore Chef amuses me.)

 

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

....and this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vdvHBrnxUM & amp;feature=relatedhehe --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote:Sparrow R Jones <sparrowroseRe: Re: TVP - funny (low fat vegan) stuff!! Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 3:47 PM

 

On 6/25/08, Beatriz <searchingalight@ > wrote:

>

> Could this be from the video you mentioned?

> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=FgW3m_voAYE

 

Yup, that's the one.

 

Sparrow