Guest guest Report post Posted April 6, 2008 I`m about 20 miles north west of Cardiff, in a south wales valley.No vegans round here......... Peter H Lesley Dove <Lesley Sunday, 6 April, 2008 12:57:19 PM RE: Wheres Izzy? The ad-hoc count should work, I'm counting, we have a good start already. I will summarise from time to time in case of any confusion (not too boringly often from now on I promise). I'd also like to suggest we could put our location and if we would like real life meetups, so any of us living close enough to each another can get in touch. I am sure some people will want to set up something local with other vegans, either social or active, or join in with whatever is already established in their area. Many vegans still hardly meet any other vegans in real life so it seems we could use the group to help end the sense of isolation. We make up less than 0.5% of the population so it is quite rare to find other vegans just randomly in day to day life (I never do). 1. John Davis 2. Paul Russell 3. Lesley Dove (Hampton, TW12, very keen to bring more vegans together locally, both social and active, running a small local vegetarian and vegan group) 4. Rebecca Hathaway (Victoria, London, interested in meet ups with other vegans) 5. Peter H 6. Carole Backler 7. Geraint Edwards 8. Jonny Nexus Lesley _____ @ .com [@ .com] On Behalf Of Geraint Edwards 06 April 2008 10:34 @ .com Re: Wheres Izzy? John Davis <mcxg46 (AT) dial (DOT) <mcxg46% 40dial.pipex. com> pipex.com> said (on Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 09:21:07AM +0100): > As for the 300 members, I doubt that most of those are still current. Depends what you mean by 'current'. I'll suggest a definition " reading every post " . My guess is 50-60%. > The list has been going for a while, and I'd be willing to be that there aren't > even close to that number of us. > We could try and count ourselves though... I've only ever sent one post to the list (so, Hi all!), and I wasn't even going to bother responding to the ad-hoc count (read: it'll never work) - what do we really gain by de-lurking like this, apart from cluttering up the list with random numbers and taking up our time? But if you do want the comfort factor that another semi-lurker is out there, here it is: > ONE! PLUS ONE! -- Geraint A. Edwards (aka " Gedge " ) gedge <gedge% 40yadn.org> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 6, 2008 Hi Jonny, whasup? Peter H Jonny Nexus <jonnynexus Sunday, 6 April, 2008 11:14:46 AM Re: Wheres Izzy? > > But if you do want the comfort factor that another semi-lurker is > out there, here it > is: > > > PLUS ONE! > Well for what's it's worth, here's another one. Jonny Nexus ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= === Email: jonnynexus@critical miss.com Web: http://www.jonnynex us.com Blog: http://jonnynexus. livejournal. com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 6, 2008 Hi Gedge, Nice Welsh name you have there! Peter H Geraint Edwards <gedge-lists Sunday, 6 April, 2008 10:33:52 AM Re: Wheres Izzy? John Davis <mcxg46 (AT) dial (DOT) pipex.com> said (on Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 09:21:07AM +0100): > As for the 300 members, I doubt that most of those are still current. Depends what you mean by 'current'. I'll suggest a definition " reading every post " . My guess is 50-60%. > The list has been going for a while, and I'd be willing to be that there aren't > even close to that number of us. > We could try and count ourselves though... I've only ever sent one post to the list (so, Hi all!), and I wasn't even going to bother responding to the ad-hoc count (read: it'll never work) - what do we really gain by de-lurking like this, apart from cluttering up the list with random numbers and taking up our time? But if you do want the comfort factor that another semi-lurker is out there, here it is: > ONE! PLUS ONE! -- Geraint A. Edwards (aka " Gedge " ) gedge _________ For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions./forgood/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 6, 2008 Helllllo Carole!.. Peter H Carole Backler <carole Saturday, 5 April, 2008 11:01:49 PM RE: Wheres Izzy? Well, I read this group and contribute whenever I think I can make a useful contribution. I've always viewed it as John does (explained below), rather than a place to organise social events... Carole > > @ .com [@ .com]On Behalf > Of Lesley Dove > 05 April 2008 19:07 > @ .com > RE: Wheres Izzy? > > Sorry to have to correct a couple of you, but you and Rebecca can't be > numbers 2 and 3, because Paul and myself had already posted ourselves as > those numbers first. > > So far we have: > > 1. John Davis > > 2. Paul Russell > > 3. Lesley Dove > > 4. Rebecca Hathaway > > 5. Peter H > > > > I would like to know how many are actively in this group and how many are > sleeping members, > > Lesley > > _____ > > @ .com [@ .com] On > Behalf Of > Peter VV > 05 April 2008 16:46 > @ .com > Re: Wheres Izzy? > > > > 3?! > > Peter H > > > Rebecca Hathaway <hathawayrj@ . > <hathawayrj% 40.co. uk> > co.uk> > @ <% 40. com> .com > Friday, 4 April, 2008 10:53:44 PM > Re: Wheres Izzy? > > 2 > > --- On Fri, 4/4/08, Paul Russell <prussell (AT) sonic (DOT) net> wrote: > > > Paul Russell <prussell (AT) sonic (DOT) net> > > Re: Wheres Izzy? > > @ .com > > Friday, 4 April, 2008, 10:57 AM > > TWO ! > > > > On 4 Apr 2008, at 09:21, John Davis wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I see this list less as an active discussion list, so > > much as a > > > place where, > > > if someone needs help or has a question and > > doesn't know anyone > > > locally they > > > can turn to, they can ask here. Personally, I also > > occasionally post > > > warnings or news just to make sure it spreads. > > > > > > I don't see this as a bad thing necessarily. Sure, > > the local lists > > > are often > > > more busy, but this one has its place I think. Or at > > least, it > > > doesn't seem > > > to hurt to remain on it! > > > > > > As for the 300 members, I doubt that most of those are > > still > > > current. The > > > list has been going for a while, and I'd be > > willing to be that there > > > aren't > > > even close to that number of us. > > > > > > We could try and count ourselves though... > > > > > > ONE! > > > > > > John > _________ For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions./forgood/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2008 Hi, Blimey, I was only joking! Good to see some more life in the list though. Someone mentioned putting our location...I'm in Stroud, Gloucestershire. There is a 3-counties vegan group that meets a little north of me every month, and I've been half-toying with the idea of trying to form a Gloucestershire group as well. (Though at the moment it would pretty much just be me, my wife, and friends we see anyway!) John - " Lesley Dove " <Lesley Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:57 PM RE: Wheres Izzy? > > > The ad-hoc count should work, I'm counting, we have a good start already. > > I will summarise from time to time in case of any confusion (not too > boringly often from now on I promise). > > > > I'd also like to suggest we could put our location and if we would like > real > life meetups, so any of us living close enough to each another can get in > touch. > > I am sure some people will want to set up something local with other > vegans, > either social or active, or join in with whatever is already established > in > their area. > > Many vegans still hardly meet any other vegans in real life so it seems we > could use the group to help end the sense of isolation. > > We make up less than 0.5% of the population so it is quite rare to find > other vegans just randomly in day to day life (I never do). > > > > > > 1. John Davis > > 2. Paul Russell > > 3. Lesley Dove (Hampton, TW12, very keen to bring more vegans together > locally, both social and active, running a small local vegetarian and > vegan > group) > > 4. Rebecca Hathaway (Victoria, London, interested in meet ups with other > vegans) > > 5. Peter H > > 6. Carole Backler > > 7. Geraint Edwards > > 8. Jonny Nexus > > > > > > Lesley > > > > _____ > > On Behalf > Of > Geraint Edwards > 06 April 2008 10:34 > > Re: Wheres Izzy? > > > > John Davis <mcxg46 (AT) dial (DOT) <mcxg46%40dial.pipex.com> pipex.com> said > (on Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 09:21:07AM +0100): >> As for the 300 members, I doubt that most of those are still current. > > Depends what you mean by 'current'. I'll suggest a definition " reading > every > post " . > My guess is 50-60%. > >> The list has been going for a while, and I'd be willing to be that there > aren't >> even close to that number of us. > >> We could try and count ourselves though... > > I've only ever sent one post to the list (so, Hi all!), and I wasn't even > going to bother responding to the ad-hoc count (read: it'll never work) - > what do we really gain by de-lurking like this, apart from cluttering up > the list with random numbers and taking up our time? > > But if you do want the comfort factor that another semi-lurker is out > there, > here it is: > >> ONE! > > PLUS ONE! > > -- > Geraint A. Edwards (aka " Gedge " ) > gedge <gedge%40yadn.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2008 Hello Michael, by the way WHO IS Izzy? Because I have no idea! Lesley _____ On Behalf Of Michael's lists 06 April 2008 14:17 Re: Wheres Izzy? As I have been here the longest I should be number one, but as that has been taken I will settle for being zero instead. Michael. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2008 Go for it I would say, especially if you cannot get to your nearest local group! Ours is also quite a small group, so we have a few close vegan friends in the area, but we welcome newcomers and have a of our own (we aim to cover most of the TW and KT postcode area) Lesley _____ On Behalf Of John Davis 07 April 2008 10:30 Re: Wheres Izzy? Hi, Blimey, I was only joking! Good to see some more life in the list though. Someone mentioned putting our location...I'm in Stroud, Gloucestershire. There is a 3-counties vegan group that meets a little north of me every month, and I've been half-toying with the idea of trying to form a Gloucestershire group as well. (Though at the moment it would pretty much just be me, my wife, and friends we see anyway!) John - " Lesley Dove " <Lesley (AT) vegan4life (DOT) <Lesley%40vegan4life.org.uk> org.uk> <@ <%40> .com> Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:57 PM RE: Wheres Izzy? > > > The ad-hoc count should work, I'm counting, we have a good start already. > > I will summarise from time to time in case of any confusion (not too > boringly often from now on I promise). > > > > I'd also like to suggest we could put our location and if we would like > real > life meetups, so any of us living close enough to each another can get in > touch. > > I am sure some people will want to set up something local with other > vegans, > either social or active, or join in with whatever is already established > in > their area. > > Many vegans still hardly meet any other vegans in real life so it seems we > could use the group to help end the sense of isolation. > > We make up less than 0.5% of the population so it is quite rare to find > other vegans just randomly in day to day life (I never do). > > > > > > 1. John Davis > > 2. Paul Russell > > 3. Lesley Dove (Hampton, TW12, very keen to bring more vegans together > locally, both social and active, running a small local vegetarian and > vegan > group) > > 4. Rebecca Hathaway (Victoria, London, interested in meet ups with other > vegans) > > 5. Peter H > > 6. Carole Backler > > 7. Geraint Edwards > > 8. Jonny Nexus > > > > > > Lesley > > > > _____ > > @ <%40> .com [@ <%40> .com] On Behalf > Of > Geraint Edwards > 06 April 2008 10:34 > @ <%40> .com > Re: Wheres Izzy? > > > > John Davis <mcxg46 (AT) dial (DOT) <mcxg46%40dial.pipex.com> pipex.com> said > (on Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 09:21:07AM +0100): >> As for the 300 members, I doubt that most of those are still current. > > Depends what you mean by 'current'. I'll suggest a definition " reading > every > post " . > My guess is 50-60%. > >> The list has been going for a while, and I'd be willing to be that there > aren't >> even close to that number of us. > >> We could try and count ourselves though... > > I've only ever sent one post to the list (so, Hi all!), and I wasn't even > going to bother responding to the ad-hoc count (read: it'll never work) - > what do we really gain by de-lurking like this, apart from cluttering up > the list with random numbers and taking up our time? > > But if you do want the comfort factor that another semi-lurker is out > there, > here it is: > >> ONE! > > PLUS ONE! > > -- > Geraint A. Edwards (aka " Gedge " ) > gedge <gedge%40yadn.org> <gedge%40yadn.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2008 Hi Lesley - no idea how Izzy is either but I think it is some pop culture reference I am too untrendy to get! Peter - I am absolutely certain I was here first as I created the group, which was apparently on February 20th, 2000. That was back in the days of oneList, who were taken over by eGroups, who were then taken over by Incidentally, the founding date on the site is wrong because of the way in which the Vegans Uncensored group was spun off from it. Back then though email based mailing lists along with newsgroups were the dominant forms of online communities, the web was still emerging from being just one of various ways of using the internet. Now though the web is for many people the be-all of the internet and forum sites have taken over as hosting costs are cheap and the software is free. Which is why this list is so quiet, it is an outdated technology. Although provide a web interface to their groups it is not as friendly as proper forum sites, and does not come up when people search Google and the like. So instead people find places like veganforum.com rather than this little corner of old world internet. Michael. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2008 Does anybody else post emails and they don't show? or am I being moderated?? It makes it difficult(and time consuming) to take part in a group when emails are lost? Jo B ----Original Message---- Lesley 07/04/2008 10:55 Subj: RE: Wheres Izzy? Hello Michael, by the way WHO IS Izzy? Because I have no idea! Lesley _____ On Behalf Of Michael's lists 06 April 2008 14:17 Re: Wheres Izzy? As I have been here the longest I should be number one, but as that has been taken I will settle for being zero instead. Michael. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2008 Maybe i am being moderated too as my message has not shown and i can't see that my post content was spam or lost as email to other places are not lost .. i am only trying to share .. veganism nor can i see that my link was un-approved as the next email has a phone no. in it..! sarah , " kimberley1 " <Kimberley1 wrote: > > > Does anybody else post emails and they don't show? or am I being moderated?? > > It makes it difficult(and time consuming) to take part in a group when emails are lost? > > Jo B > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2008 Hi Michael, I am not that old after all then! yeay! ( the Izzy reference is a refernce to guns and roses in case anyone was wondering - what I was listening to when I was typing the original mail ) Thanks for the history lesson, nice to draw everyone out of the woodwork isnt it. Peter H Michael's lists <ndisc Monday, 7 April, 2008 1:51:51 PM Re: Wheres Izzy? Hi Lesley - no idea how Izzy is either but I think it is some pop culture reference I am too untrendy to get! Peter - I am absolutely certain I was here first as I created the group, which was apparently on February 20th, 2000. That was back in the days of oneList, who were taken over by eGroups, who were then taken over by Incidentally, the founding date on the site is wrong because of the way in which the Vegans Uncensored group was spun off from it. Back then though email based mailing lists along with newsgroups were the dominant forms of online communities, the web was still emerging from being just one of various ways of using the internet. Now though the web is for many people the be-all of the internet and forum sites have taken over as hosting costs are cheap and the software is free. Which is why this list is so quiet, it is an outdated technology. Although provide a web interface to their groups it is not as friendly as proper forum sites, and does not come up when people search Google and the like. So instead people find places like veganforum.com rather than this little corner of old world internet. Michael. _________ For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions./forgood/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 19, 2008 Sorry about that - all new members are moderated until they have posted one valid message (otherwise we get a lot of problems with spam). Unfortunately I was out of the country and without a computer for two weeks and have only just got back today, hence the delay in taking you off moderation. I'll take a computer with me next time I go on my travels... Paul On 7 Apr 2008, at 16:47, jjnanaz wrote: > > > Maybe i am being moderated too as my message has not shown and i > can't see that my post content was spam or lost as email to other > places are not lost .. i am only trying to share .. veganism > nor can i see that my link was un-approved as the next email has a > phone no. in it..! > > sarah > > , " kimberley1 " <Kimberley1 > wrote: >> >> >> Does anybody else post emails and they don't show? or am I being > moderated?? >> >> It makes it difficult(and time consuming) to take part in a group > when emails are lost? >> >> Jo B >> >> >> > > > --- > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > --------------------------- > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > Un: send a blank message to - > ! Groups Links > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 19, 2008 hi paul.. hope you had a lovely time .. where did you go? i dont recall haveing the new member profile text to fill out .. could you please send it to me sometime and ill post it as a late new, lurker!! (ohh.. and my group name has changed, below..) thanks sarah sarah austin http://uk.VegansWorldWide , Paul Russell <prussell wrote: > > Sorry about that - all new members are moderated until they have > posted one valid message (otherwise we get a lot of problems with > spam). Unfortunately I was out of the country and without a computer > for two weeks and have only just got back today, hence the delay in > taking you off moderation. I'll take a computer with me next time I go > on my travels... > > Paul > > On 7 Apr 2008, at 16:47, jjnanaz wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe i am being moderated too as my message has not shown and i > > can't see that my post content was spam or lost as email to other > > places are not lost .. i am only trying to share .. veganism > > nor can i see that my link was un-approved as the next email has a > > phone no. in it..! > > > > sarah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kimberley1@ " <Kimberley1@> > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Does anybody else post emails and they don't show? or am I being > > moderated?? > >> > >> It makes it difficult(and time consuming) to take part in a group > > when emails are lost? > >> > >> Jo B > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > --- > > > > ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, > > there may be another side to the story you have not heard. > > --------------------------- > > Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> > > Un: send a blank message to - > > ! Groups Links > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 20, 2008 Hi Sarah - I was in California for two weeks. As it was a family vacation I took the unprecedented step of not having a computer with me, so no email/ internet etc for two weeks (still a little jittery now as a result). The questionnaire goes out with the welcome message when you join the group. Here it is again... -- === member profile === Welcome to . In order to introduce yourself to the other members of the list it would be appreciated if you can complete and post a copy of the following profile. Your responses to the questions may be as brief or full as you wish, this is only meant as an introduction, any subject can be raised for discussion at a later stage. To post your profile reply to this email answering the following 14 questions, and please change the sending address to before sending, do not use the address offered by default or it will not be sent to the list. Please note that your profile may be placed on the group web site. === Questions about you === 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? 2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? 3/ Do you know many vegans in real life? 4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before that? 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would be useful to explain why you joined this list)? === Questions about your area === 6/ Whereabouts do you live? 7/ How good a place is it for vegans? === Questions for fun === 8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? 9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? 10/ What types of film do you like? 11/ What was the last meal you ate? 12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? === Questions for dull administrative purposes === 13/ How did you find out about this list? === Other comments === 14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please feel free to do so. Thank you for completing a profile. BEFORE REPLYING PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS AS NOTED ABOVE. -- Paul On 19 Apr 2008, at 21:39, jjnanaz wrote: > hi paul.. > > hope you had a lovely time .. where did you go? > > i dont recall haveing the new member profile text to fill out .. > could you please send it to me sometime and ill post it as a late > new, lurker!! > > (ohh.. and my group name has changed, below..) > > thanks > sarah > > > > sarah austin > http://uk.VegansWorldWide > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
