Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Posted March 12, 2001 Is this just my compulsiveness, or do any of the rest ofyou ever > feel this way? Susan C., I did find your comments comforting, though! > Susan P. Nawwww...I too have that cognitive dissonance that arrives with the chasm between what I hold as ideal, and what my daily activities actually allow to manifest as reality.... Take the fact that I still have shoes made with leather for example...on one hand, they were purchased prior to my switching to a vegetarian lifestyle--and to " throw them away " or give them away would be rather costly at this point in my life as acquiring an entirely new set of animal/earth friendly garments is not financially feasible at this moment...otoh--aren't I continuing to promote the death of these animals (the moo's in this instance) by wearing shoes made of leather in spite of the fact they were pre-veggie purchases... Also, the use of petroleum in cleaning products is rampant...particularly in laundry detergent...as a " true " conservative by " nature " (hah, the Phants-- republicans--have nothing on my conservative views ) I would be moving against my philosophical/ethical platform to walk into any local supermarket and purchase their (most likely) animal tested petroleum based products (considering we have a limited supply of this energy source)....yet, I do not have a local health food supermarket which maintains earth/animal friendly products--I must order them, which adds extra cost for shipping...sooooo...being a single mom (and using cloth diapers!!!) living with my parents, I must make do with what my finances dictate (which, most recently requires that I use whatever they purchase)...I'm sure this opens up an entire landscape of understanding of certain environments which coerce individuals into setting aside certain amounts of ethics/morality in order to meet their needs for survival....as soon as my career transition is complete, and my financial picture improves, I will immediately return to purchasing my beloved biosphere friendly supplies....also, I do search for " natural alternatives " that can be used around the house such as using regular cornstarch for baby powder Additionally, driving a car is rather violent to the environment, and we are using, once again, fossil fuels-so, yet another human function is dependent upon " animal " products or by-products in order to operate within this society....<heavy sigh>....perhaps, one day this can change....unfortunately, the loudest voice heard is $$$$$$$$$$.... Alright, before I step up on my political soap box...I had better get back to work... Slante chugat, Kat Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Posted March 12, 2001 In a message dated 3/12/2001 11:24:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, madaline_7 writes: > Yet, I find it > hard not to get another pair of Birkenstocks when my > I am pretty sure that Birkenstocks make non leather alternatives. Sara Colin's Ap Mama A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf. Come see us at <A HREF= " http://www.sos.state.mi.us/election/elecadmin/2000web/index.html " > </A>h<A HREF= " http://members.tripod.com/colinsapmama/ " >ttp://members.tripod.com/colinsap\ mama/</A> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Posted March 12, 2001 I know what Sue means, though. When I went vegetarian, I thought it would free me of that guilty feeling over being involved in maltreatment of animals that was keeping me up nights. Instead, I became more and more aware how much I would have to give up. so I decided I had to be " perfectly " vegan, until I realized I couldn't do it. Maybe learning to settle for less than perfection is a good lesson from me, but I still have that guilty feeling, and I can't see any way of losing it. I've been veg for 11 years and will never go back to eating meat, but sometimes I wonder how to justify my choice to abstain from eating animal products when I cannot be entirely consistant in all areas of my life....Is this just my compulsiveness, or do any of the rest ofyou ever feel this way? Susan C., I did find your comments comforting, though! Susan P. ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Posted March 12, 2001 Susan P~ I understand completely where you are coming from. I have been a veggie for close to 7 years now (it started as a $5.00 bet in college). Yet, I find it hard not to get another pair of Birkenstocks when my old ones wear out. Maybe it is becuase I didn't become a veggie because I read a report on slaughterhouses or I read how pigs are transported for slaughter etc. I did it becuase I was starting to feel ill... all the time (and we can't forget that $5.00. That's a lot in college. LOL!!). My stomach was a wreck and once I cut out the meat I felt better. Yes, for the record I do feel like some what of a hyprocrite becuase I wear leather on my feet. I guess what I am trying to say though, is that I understand. Alicia --- " Susan M. Prepejchal " <sprepejchal wrote: > I know what Sue means, though. When I went > vegetarian, I thought it > would free me of that guilty feeling over being > involved in maltreatment > of animals that was keeping me up nights. Instead, > I became more and > more aware how much I would have to give up. so I > decided I had to be > " perfectly " vegan, until I realized I couldn't do > it. Maybe learning to > settle for less than perfection is a good lesson > from me, but I still > have that guilty feeling, and I can't see any way of > losing it. I've > been veg for 11 years and will never go back to > eating meat, but > sometimes I wonder how to justify my choice to > abstain from eating animal > products when I cannot be entirely consistant in all > areas of my > life....Is this just my compulsiveness, or do any of > the rest ofyou ever > feel this way? Susan C., I did find your comments > comforting, though! > Susan P. > ______________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions./ Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Posted March 12, 2001 And, as Kat brings up, I too would love to find really good and really nontoxic, nonviolent cleaning products that are affordable and readily available. Vinegar and bakingsoda only take us so far...although I confess I've raised two kids without ever once powdering any portion of their anatomies in any way! SusanP. ______________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote
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