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Hi Jo

 

Thank you and the same to you and everyone here.

 

BB

Nikki :)

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> Happy Christmas to all who celebrate it - and I hope everyone has a

lovely

> time whatever they celebrate.

>

> BB

> Jo

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Hi Nikki

 

How did your family enjoy the day?

 

We have had a very nice time - enjoying all the presents, and too much food

by far!

 

BB

Jo

 

-

" earthstrm " <earthstorm

 

Monday, December 26, 2005 12:12 PM

Re: Greetings

 

 

> Hi Jo

>

> Thank you and the same to you and everyone here.

>

> BB

> Nikki :)

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Hi Jo

 

It was pretty nice. Very relaxing, no pressure and most everyone

enjoyed their gifts. The best part of course is Zak opening his

though. :)

 

I do need tho to find more for me in my own choices for these

holidays. I am use to celebrating my beliefs solo, I just think that

I do not give myself enough time and space to do so. But I am slowly

realizing I need to re-prioritize things for myself or risk

alienating everyone.

 

Tis a really strange time for me right now. But I do know all will

get better. :)

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Nikki

>

> How did your family enjoy the day?

>

> We have had a very nice time - enjoying all the presents, and too

much food

> by far!

>

> BB

> Jo

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HI Nikki

 

I suppose it depends how open the rest of your family are to what you want

to do. If not, maybe you could have an altar in another room for a short

private ritual, or even go for a short walk to a quiet place.

 

BB

Jo

 

-

" earthstrm " <earthstorm

 

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:34 PM

Re: Greetings

 

 

> Hi Jo

>

> It was pretty nice. Very relaxing, no pressure and most everyone

> enjoyed their gifts. The best part of course is Zak opening his

> though. :)

>

> I do need tho to find more for me in my own choices for these

> holidays. I am use to celebrating my beliefs solo, I just think that

> I do not give myself enough time and space to do so. But I am slowly

> realizing I need to re-prioritize things for myself or risk

> alienating everyone.

>

> Tis a really strange time for me right now. But I do know all will

> get better. :)

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Nikki

> >

> > How did your family enjoy the day?

> >

> > We have had a very nice time - enjoying all the presents, and too

> much food

> > by far!

> >

> > BB

> > Jo

>

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Hi Jo

 

That's usually what I do. Either in my room or out into the yard.

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> HI Nikki

>

> I suppose it depends how open the rest of your family are to what

you want

> to do. If not, maybe you could have an altar in another room for

a short

> private ritual, or even go for a short walk to a quiet place.

>

> BB

> Jo

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Hi Silver, and welcome to the group.

 

You can get good info on which mainstream products are vegan from the

Vegan Society's Animal Free Shopper. There's a handy pocket-sized

print version which costs about a fiver and there's also a free

online version at www.animalfreeshopper.com (you have to register

first to use this, but that doesn't cost anything).

 

It's not possible to be 100% vegan - there's always some aspect of

your life which, if you dig deep enough, has some negative impact on

animals (including other humans). But of course we all strive to be

as vegan as we reasonably can.

 

I used to live in Southampton a long time ago (Portswood) - at that

time I think it had one veggie restaurant of the hippy/brown rice/

lentils persuasion, but I've no idea what it's like these days - I

think it's probably changed a lot ?

 

I just got back from my first trip to India - very vegetarian-

friendly in the south but also very hard to be vegan there, due to

the widespread use of dairy products in just about everything.

 

Paul

 

On 31 Dec 2006, at 19:14, Silver Devi Dasi wrote:

 

> === Questions about you ===

>

> 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? my real name

> is Melissa though hardly anyone calls me that anymore, and I am more

> widely known as Silver DD (though you don't need to add the DD), so,

> take your pick!

>

> 2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? I'm currently 40

>

> 3/ Do you know many vegans in real life? none

>

> 4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before

> that? I have been vegetarian for approximately a little over a month.

> I backslid on several occasions and had chicken, and then felt

> terribly guilty afterwards. haven't had any meat since.

>

> 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would

> be

> useful to explain why you joined this list)? I am not a vegan as yet,

> which I will explain in a minute. I made a promise to Krishna to stop

> eating meat and eggs and anything with animal products by the end of

> this year. however, this is an ongoing process, and I am in the

> process of researching which foods have animal products in, and which

> don't - and not simply animal products, but GM as well. until I have

> done all the research I can do, I cannot be 100% vegan and say I am,

> if there is a chance that this might not be true.

>

>

> === Questions about your area ===

>

> 6/ Whereabouts do you live? Southampton

>

> 7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I suppose it's like any other.

> plenty restaurants have vegetarian dishes, though I don't exactly eat

> out, so I wouldn't know how dedicated any of them are. there is ONE

> all vegetarian restaurant in town, and close by, but I think they are

> more a psychic/alternative therapies cafe that offers veggie goodies

> on a small scale.

>

>

> === Questions for fun ===

>

> 8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? hmmm..I'd have to say french

> cut green beans

>

> 9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I've always

> wanted to visit India.

>

> 10/ What types of film do you like? Bollywood/indian for the most

> part. or a real good gripping action/thriller. I am looking forward

> to seeing apocalypto.

>

> 11/ What was the last meal you ate? I made 2 falafel wraps. they were

> made from 2 chapatis spread with hummus, 2 falafels in each kind of

> squashed or flattened, and some salad on top of that, rolled up and

> enjoyed.

>

> 12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening, although I

> am up mon - fri at the crack of dawn.

>

>

> === Questions for dull administrative purposes ===

>

> 13/ How did you find out about this list? I went in search of new

> groups on yahell so I could learn to make the transition from

> omnivore to veggiesaurus a little easier.

>

>

> === Other comments ===

>

> 14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please

> feel

> free to do so. I'm a 40 year old single mother of 3, who recently

> promised to give up smoking as well as eating animal products. I have

> succeeded at both (the smoking 100% anyway), though I still have some

> ways to go on the food end. my aim here is to be totally vegan, and

> also incorporate alot of rawfoods into my diet too. one thing in

> particular I was looking for here besides menus/recipes, was to know

> which products from major grocery stores have hidden animal

> ingredients, or hidden GM ingredients. and also, if there are any

> people living either in or near my area, that may know of organic

> shopping/food co-ops etc, or places which do mail order of specialty

> veg food items. any advice here would be a godsend. I haven't checked

> files or anything yet, so if things like this are there already, then

> whoops! I'm checking now..thanks ahead of time :)

>

> YS

> Silver DD

>

>

>

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Hi Silver,

Welcome to the group, here are a few web sites that may be of help to you:

http://www.vegansociety.com/html/

http://www.veganvillage.co.uk/

 

Both have lots of information from groups in your area/shops/mail order / food

facts etc.

Any questions please ask.

 

The Valley Vegan............

 

Silver Devi Dasi <silvervcc wrote:

=== Questions about you ===

 

1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? my real name

is Melissa though hardly anyone calls me that anymore, and I am more

widely known as Silver DD (though you don't need to add the DD), so,

take your pick!

 

2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? I'm currently 40

 

3/ Do you know many vegans in real life? none

 

4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before

that? I have been vegetarian for approximately a little over a month.

I backslid on several occasions and had chicken, and then felt

terribly guilty afterwards. haven't had any meat since.

 

5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would

be

useful to explain why you joined this list)? I am not a vegan as yet,

which I will explain in a minute. I made a promise to Krishna to stop

eating meat and eggs and anything with animal products by the end of

this year. however, this is an ongoing process, and I am in the

process of researching which foods have animal products in, and which

don't - and not simply animal products, but GM as well. until I have

done all the research I can do, I cannot be 100% vegan and say I am,

if there is a chance that this might not be true.

 

=== Questions about your area ===

 

6/ Whereabouts do you live? Southampton

 

7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I suppose it's like any other.

plenty restaurants have vegetarian dishes, though I don't exactly eat

out, so I wouldn't know how dedicated any of them are. there is ONE

all vegetarian restaurant in town, and close by, but I think they are

more a psychic/alternative therapies cafe that offers veggie goodies

on a small scale.

 

=== Questions for fun ===

 

8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? hmmm..I'd have to say french

cut green beans

 

9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I've always

wanted to visit India.

 

10/ What types of film do you like? Bollywood/indian for the most

part. or a real good gripping action/thriller. I am looking forward

to seeing apocalypto.

 

11/ What was the last meal you ate? I made 2 falafel wraps. they were

made from 2 chapatis spread with hummus, 2 falafels in each kind of

squashed or flattened, and some salad on top of that, rolled up and

enjoyed.

 

12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening, although I

am up mon - fri at the crack of dawn.

 

=== Questions for dull administrative purposes ===

 

13/ How did you find out about this list? I went in search of new

groups on yahell so I could learn to make the transition from

omnivore to veggiesaurus a little easier.

 

=== Other comments ===

 

14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please

feel

free to do so. I'm a 40 year old single mother of 3, who recently

promised to give up smoking as well as eating animal products. I have

succeeded at both (the smoking 100% anyway), though I still have some

ways to go on the food end. my aim here is to be totally vegan, and

also incorporate alot of rawfoods into my diet too. one thing in

particular I was looking for here besides menus/recipes, was to know

which products from major grocery stores have hidden animal

ingredients, or hidden GM ingredients. and also, if there are any

people living either in or near my area, that may know of organic

shopping/food co-ops etc, or places which do mail order of specialty

veg food items. any advice here would be a godsend. I haven't checked

files or anything yet, so if things like this are there already, then

whoops! I'm checking now..thanks ahead of time :)

 

YS

Silver DD

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peter H

 

 

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I've heard they use a lot of coconut milk in food and it was quite easy to

be vegan espcially in places like Kerala?

 

Jo

 

 

 

>-- Original Message --

>

>Paul Russell <prussell

>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:57:50 +0000

>Re: greetings

>

>

>

>Hi Silver, and welcome to the group.

>

>You can get good info on which mainstream products are vegan from the

>Vegan Society's Animal Free Shopper. There's a handy pocket-sized

>print version which costs about a fiver and there's also a free

>online version at www.animalfreeshopper.com (you have to register

>first to use this, but that doesn't cost anything).

>

>It's not possible to be 100% vegan - there's always some aspect of

>your life which, if you dig deep enough, has some negative impact on

>animals (including other humans). But of course we all strive to be

>as vegan as we reasonably can.

>

>I used to live in Southampton a long time ago (Portswood) - at that

>time I think it had one veggie restaurant of the hippy/brown rice/

>lentils persuasion, but I've no idea what it's like these days - I

>think it's probably changed a lot ?

>

>I just got back from my first trip to India - very vegetarian-

>friendly in the south but also very hard to be vegan there, due to

>the widespread use of dairy products in just about everything.

>

>Paul

>

>On 31 Dec 2006, at 19:14, Silver Devi Dasi wrote:

>

>> === Questions about you ===

>>

>> 1/ What is your name (or what do you like to be called)? my real name

>> is Melissa though hardly anyone calls me that anymore, and I am more

>> widely known as Silver DD (though you don't need to add the DD), so,

>> take your pick!

>>

>> 2/ How old are you (a rough idea will do)? I'm currently 40

>>

>> 3/ Do you know many vegans in real life? none

>>

>> 4/ How long have you been a vegan, and how long vegetarian before

>> that? I have been vegetarian for approximately a little over a month.

>> I backslid on several occasions and had chicken, and then felt

>> terribly guilty afterwards. haven't had any meat since.

>>

>> 5/ Why did you become vegetarian/vegan (if you are neither it would

>> be

>> useful to explain why you joined this list)? I am not a vegan as yet,

>> which I will explain in a minute. I made a promise to Krishna to stop

>> eating meat and eggs and anything with animal products by the end of

>> this year. however, this is an ongoing process, and I am in the

>> process of researching which foods have animal products in, and which

>> don't - and not simply animal products, but GM as well. until I have

>> done all the research I can do, I cannot be 100% vegan and say I am,

>> if there is a chance that this might not be true.

>>

>>

>> === Questions about your area ===

>>

>> 6/ Whereabouts do you live? Southampton

>>

>> 7/ How good a place is it for vegans? I suppose it's like any other.

>> plenty restaurants have vegetarian dishes, though I don't exactly eat

>> out, so I wouldn't know how dedicated any of them are. there is ONE

>> all vegetarian restaurant in town, and close by, but I think they are

>> more a psychic/alternative therapies cafe that offers veggie goodies

>> on a small scale.

>>

>>

>> === Questions for fun ===

>>

>> 8/ Which is your favourite type of bean? hmmm..I'd have to say french

>> cut green beans

>>

>> 9/ What is your favourite country, or region, to visit? I've always

>> wanted to visit India.

>>

>> 10/ What types of film do you like? Bollywood/indian for the most

>> part. or a real good gripping action/thriller. I am looking forward

>> to seeing apocalypto.

>>

>> 11/ What was the last meal you ate? I made 2 falafel wraps. they were

>> made from 2 chapatis spread with hummus, 2 falafels in each kind of

>> squashed or flattened, and some salad on top of that, rolled up and

>> enjoyed.

>>

>> 12/ Are you a morning, evening or night person? evening, although I

>> am up mon - fri at the crack of dawn.

>>

>>

>> === Questions for dull administrative purposes ===

>>

>> 13/ How did you find out about this list? I went in search of new

>> groups on yahell so I could learn to make the transition from

>> omnivore to veggiesaurus a little easier.

>>

>>

>> === Other comments ===

>>

>> 14/ If there is anything else you want to add to the above please

>> feel

>> free to do so. I'm a 40 year old single mother of 3, who recently

>> promised to give up smoking as well as eating animal products. I have

>> succeeded at both (the smoking 100% anyway), though I still have some

>> ways to go on the food end. my aim here is to be totally vegan, and

>> also incorporate alot of rawfoods into my diet too. one thing in

>> particular I was looking for here besides menus/recipes, was to know

>> which products from major grocery stores have hidden animal

>> ingredients, or hidden GM ingredients. and also, if there are any

>> people living either in or near my area, that may know of organic

>> shopping/food co-ops etc, or places which do mail order of specialty

>> veg food items. any advice here would be a godsend. I haven't checked

>> files or anything yet, so if things like this are there already, then

>> whoops! I'm checking now..thanks ahead of time :)

>>

>> YS

>> Silver DD

>>

>>

>>

>> ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>> Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author,

>> there may be another side to the story you have not heard.

>> ---------------------------

>> Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?

>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>> Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>

>> Un: send a blank message to -

>>

>>

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On 1 Jan 2007, at 15:34, Jo Kimberley wrote:

 

> I've heard they use a lot of coconut milk in food and it was quite

> easy to

> be vegan espcially in places like Kerala?

>

 

Ghee, yoghurt and paneer are widely used. Ghee is probably the

biggest problem because just about all frying uses ghee, so even with

something basic like a tarka dall, the spices in the tarka will have

been fried in ghee. Even plain rice is usually buttered. I just did

the best I could - avoided all obvious dairy content and stuck to

plain baked breads like puri and accepted the fact that some of

things I ate might have contained a small amount of ghee. Apart from

going self-catering (not really practical on a business trip) what

else can you do ?

 

Paul

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I agree Paul, Ghee would be the biggest problem, however, all you can do is tell

the places you eat not to use it? I know this is impractical in places where

they may not speak English, but there is vegan travel book I believe with

phrases in many languages. I am sure that someone could have told you the phrase

from the hotel? in the one or two major languages in the area you stayed in.

Hope you had a good time ( even if it was on business) How did you cope with

all the poverty/begging etc?

 

The Valley Vegan................

 

Paul Russell <prussell wrote:

On 1 Jan 2007, at 15:34, Jo Kimberley wrote:

 

> I've heard they use a lot of coconut milk in food and it was quite

> easy to

> be vegan espcially in places like Kerala?

>

 

Ghee, yoghurt and paneer are widely used. Ghee is probably the

biggest problem because just about all frying uses ghee, so even with

something basic like a tarka dall, the spices in the tarka will have

been fried in ghee. Even plain rice is usually buttered. I just did

the best I could - avoided all obvious dairy content and stuck to

plain baked breads like puri and accepted the fact that some of

things I ate might have contained a small amount of ghee. Apart from

going self-catering (not really practical on a business trip) what

else can you do ?

 

Paul

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peter H

 

 

 

 

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Generally Indian food is not cooked to order, so it's not really

possible to say that you'll have X, Y an Z without the ghee.

Fortunately in the UK real ghee is expensive so most Indian

restaurants here use vegetable ghee, but real ghee is relatively

cheap in India so it's more common. Unless you cook all your food

from scratch I don't think you're going to be able to avoid it entirely.

 

As for English, most Indian people speak some English, as it's the

lingua franca in a country of nearly a billion people speaking 20 or

so different major languages and hundreds of minor languages.

 

Begging/poverty etc - the general advice from people like Save the

Children is to not give money to beggars but give some money to a

local charity that helps the homeless/disabled/etc instead. Otherwise

you just encourage dependence (and some really nasty practices that

go with it) and the money you give is not used effectively. So that's

what I did, anyway. All the stray dogs and the cows wandering the

city streets and freeways etc were another matter - I don't know what

you do to help those. I support HAAW who help these animals in Sri

Lanka but I'm not aware of anyone doing similar work in India (?).

 

Paul

 

On 2 Jan 2007, at 09:09, peter VV wrote:

 

> I agree Paul, Ghee would be the biggest problem, however, all you

> can do is tell the places you eat not to use it? I know this is

> impractical in places where they may not speak English, but there

> is vegan travel book I believe with phrases in many languages. I

> am sure that someone could have told you the phrase from the hotel?

> in the one or two major languages in the area you stayed in.

> Hope you had a good time ( even if it was on business) How did

> you cope with all the poverty/begging etc?

>

> The Valley Vegan................

>

> Paul Russell <prussell wrote:

> On 1 Jan 2007, at 15:34, Jo Kimberley wrote:

>

>> I've heard they use a lot of coconut milk in food and it was quite

>> easy to

>> be vegan espcially in places like Kerala?

>>

>

> Ghee, yoghurt and paneer are widely used. Ghee is probably the

> biggest problem because just about all frying uses ghee, so even with

> something basic like a tarka dall, the spices in the tarka will have

> been fried in ghee. Even plain rice is usually buttered. I just did

> the best I could - avoided all obvious dairy content and stuck to

> plain baked breads like puri and accepted the fact that some of

> things I ate might have contained a small amount of ghee. Apart from

> going self-catering (not really practical on a business trip) what

> else can you do ?

>

> Paul

Peter H

>

>

>

>

> Try the all-new Mail . " The New Version is radically easier

> to use " – The Wall Street Journal

>

>

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Greetings Oluwa, one thing I particularly like that is mostly raw is shredded

carrots, dried fruit, shelled, salted sunflower seeds (or any other nutmeat,

chopped), and a little raw honey to bind together all rolled up in a flatbread

or just served over raw greens and eaten without the bread. It would probably be

good with a bit of finely chopped hot peppers for some heat to balance the

sweetness of the honey, carrots and dried fruit.If you have some bitter greens

to go in, that would probably taste good and would give sweet/salt/sour/heat

which is so good together. Hope this helps, Jeanne in GA

 

 

 

 

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Welcome and congratulations on your continued

progressive raw journey dear...

 

 

 

HTP

 

Rain

 

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CONVENIENCE. But where s(he)stands during times of TRIAL and TRIBULATION..

 

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How wonderful that you're looking for ways to accomodate your

vegetarian friends. You (and your wife) will find an amazing array of

great recipes in the files

<%2ARecipes/>

that your all your friends, vegetarian or not, will enjoy.

 

Welcome to the group!

 

~ irene in W WA

 

 

> Greetings!

>

>

>

> I joined the group because I have several friends who are

> vegetarian, and I

> want to be able to provide them with good food when they come

> over. The

> description of this group mentioned that the group is recipe

> based, so I am

> looking forward to learning much. That, and my wife is addicted to

> recipes.

>

>

>

> Eat well!

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Hello, I am new to this group.

 

I have been vegetarian for quite a few years.

On January 22nd, My birthday and wedding anniversary, I made the step to

veganism.

 

Also, I am experimenting with raw foods.. so if anyone has any recipes for me,

feel free to email them to me.

 

Thank you.

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