New poll for

[Guest guest]

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

group:

 

If you are not yet a vegetarian, what is it that

keeps you eating animal flesh? If you are a

vegetarian who falls of the veggie wagon,

what causes this to happen? Give us your

best shot at your primary reason!

(There are two more polls - and they are

related - give them a go too, okay??)

 

o I see no reason why I should not eat flesh.

o I am unsure about the healthiness of a flesh-less diet.

o I have to eat out a lot in business and/or travel.

o Family and friends are more important to me than diet.

o Vegetables get boring all the time.

o My physician and/or spiritual counsellor advised more of the flesh.

o It's patriotic to eat flesh.

o My spouse, partner or girlfriend/boyfriend eats flesh.

o Eating flesh looks cool.

o I want to help the farmers make a living.

o I hate eating flesh but all the animals would feel unloved if I didn't

respect them by eating them.

o Other.

 

 

To vote, please visit the following web page:

/surveys?id=732326

 

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are

not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the

web site listed above.

 

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

I think we have respected the rules of this group, and now it's time

to respect those who are NOT vegetarian... I find this email with

the discriptor very insulting. I personally came here to learn about

vegetarian food and I respected your rules completely. This is not a

fair way to respect the view of people who do NOT choose to be vegans.

 

On 11 Sep 2004 21:00:37 -0000,

wrote:

>

> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

> group:

>

> If you are not yet a vegetarian, what is it that

> keeps you eating animal flesh? If you are a

> vegetarian who falls of the veggie wagon,

> what causes this to happen? Give us your

> best shot at your primary reason!

> (There are two more polls - and they are

> related - give them a go too, okay??)

>

> o I see no reason why I should not eat flesh.

> o I am unsure about the healthiness of a flesh-less diet.

> o I have to eat out a lot in business and/or travel.

> o Family and friends are more important to me than diet.

> o Vegetables get boring all the time.

> o My physician and/or spiritual counsellor advised more of the flesh.

> o It's patriotic to eat flesh.

> o My spouse, partner or girlfriend/boyfriend eats flesh.

> o Eating flesh looks cool.

> o I want to help the farmers make a living.

> o I hate eating flesh but all the animals would feel unloved if I didn't

respect them by eating them.

> o Other.

>

> To vote, please visit the following web page:

> /surveys?id=732326

>

>

>

> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are

> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the

> web site listed above.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL Read it again. It is also for us veggies. No one is perfect - and we all

fall

off the wagon now and then in one way or another - even a tiny little bit -

intentionally or unintentionally. There's not a reason here that I have not

heard a veggie use as to why it has happened - perhaps in different words,

but I did not want to make it nationally or culturally specific ;=)

 

No disrespect of anyone was intended, but if I have apologies to make it

would be to the animals; these are frivolous reasons frivolously stated, and

intentionally so. I rather think they would forgive me, though ;=)

 

Lighten up, hon - we love ya!

 

Best,

 

Pat ;=)

 

> I think we have respected the rules of this group, and now it's time

> to respect those who are NOT vegetarian... I find this email with

> the discriptor very insulting. I personally came here to learn about

> vegetarian food and I respected your rules completely. This is not a

> fair way to respect the view of people who do NOT choose to be vegans.

[Guest guest]

For me, in order of priority:

 

1. Other: tempeh/tofu tastes better.

2. Healthy lifestyle.

3. Concern for animal rights.

4. Concern for Ecology/Environment.

 

Kevin

[Guest guest]

Linda,

 

I,m not yet a vegetarian but positively heading in that direction.

Personally, I didn't take offense at the bulleted topics. I have

actually heard people try to make a serious argument for the patriotic

slant. And likewise for 'supporting our pig farmers'. The unloved

animal point I just assumed was a stab at humor, no offense taken on

my part.

 

My only issue with the list is that it didn't hit any of my key

issues, which are:

 

- I am in transition, breaking long-standing eating habits,

- some meat doesn't strike me as particularly offensive, such as:

fish, snails, mollusks in general,

- I'm still learning about vegetarianism, where I stand

 

 

Kevin

 

, Linda Panter <lipant@g...> wrote:

> I think we have respected the rules of this group, and now it's time

> to respect those who are NOT vegetarian... I find this email with

> the discriptor very insulting.

[Guest guest]

I took the survey, but thought it was useful to stress MY order of

importance on these points.

 

>

> 1. Other: tempeh/tofu tastes better.

> 2. Healthy lifestyle.

> 3. Concern for animal rights.

> 4. Concern for Ecology/Environment.

>

> Kevin

[Guest guest]

Dear Linda,

 

I find your anger at this poll very interesting, and not wanting to offend

you further I am hesitant to respond, but thought it appropriate since you are

probably not the only person here who apparently eats meat. First off nobody is

trying to insult or disrespect you. Being a student of human nature I find

people's reactions to confrontation of their own belief system interesting.The

purpose of this poll was simply to get to know better how the people in this

group were leaning, so that we as moderators could in fact best direct the

group. I do not know, but I am supposing that you read the reason for eating

meat and perhaps were offended at what you felt were snide comments about people

eating meat? IF this is what you were thinking you would be wrong. I personally

have had a fiancee break up with me because I refused to eat meat at her parents

home on Thanksgiving and she felt I was being disrespectful to her parents. II

also have friends who go to business meetings with some

high powered individuals and not wanting to feel or seem different, they eat

meat with them. There are in fact spiritual advisors who do preach and teach

that eating meat is why animals are here, and we should honor that.There are

people who eat meat, or are vegeterian simply because those that are around them

eat the same way. There is nothing here meant of ridicule or belittle your life

choice. The idea was to have some introspection and some honest communication,

nothing more. Thank you for your understanding. I have left the polll on this

e-mail os that you could refer to it in case you had deleted the prior message.

MARK

 

Linda Panter <lipant wrote:

I think we have respected the rules of this group, and now it's time

to respect those who are NOT vegetarian... I find this email with

the discriptor very insulting. I personally came here to learn about

vegetarian food and I respected your rules completely. This is not a

fair way to respect the view of people who do NOT choose to be vegans.

 

On 11 Sep 2004 21:00:37 -0000,

wrote:

>

> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

> group:

>

> If you are not yet a vegetarian, what is it that

> keeps you eating animal flesh? If you are a

> vegetarian who falls of the veggie wagon,

> what causes this to happen? Give us your

> best shot at your primary reason!

> (There are two more polls - and they are

> related - give them a go too, okay??)

>

> o I see no reason why I should not eat flesh.

> o I am unsure about the healthiness of a flesh-less diet.

> o I have to eat out a lot in business and/or travel.

> o Family and friends are more important to me than diet.

> o Vegetables get boring all the time.

> o My physician and/or spiritual counsellor advised more of the flesh.

> o It's patriotic to eat flesh.

> o My spouse, partner or girlfriend/boyfriend eats flesh.

> o Eating flesh looks cool.

> o I want to help the farmers make a living.

> o I hate eating flesh but all the animals would feel unloved if I didn't

respect them by eating them.

> o Other.

>

> To vote, please visit the following web page:

> /surveys?id=732326

>

>

>

> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are

> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the

> web site listed above.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Linda Panter <lipant

>

> I think we have respected the rules of this group, and now it's time

> to respect those who are NOT vegetarian... I find this email with

> the discriptor very insulting. I personally came here to learn about

> vegetarian food and I respected your rules completely. This is not a

> fair way to respect the view of people who do NOT choose to be vegans.

 

Linda,

 

What precisely did you find offensive? Calling animal flesh " flesh " ? Because

that is, after all, what it is.

 

-e.

[Guest guest]

Eric,

 

I am a vegan, and I was also wondering why the word flesh was used. I

sounds radical to me . I know the purpose of this group is not to

conform folks, and I'd never push my beliefs of being a vegan on anyone.

However, I would love to see the world eating a plant based diet. My

feeling is that could help people who are considering

giving up meat make that decision, but not if we are offensive to meat

eaters.

 

 

Cyndi

>^. .^<

 

 

 

 

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:02:28 -0400 eric <ericn613 writes:

> Linda Panter <lipant

>

> I think we have respected the rules of this group, and now it's time

> to respect those who are NOT vegetarian... I find this email with

> the discriptor very insulting. I personally came here to learn about

> vegetarian food and I respected your rules completely. This is not a

> fair way to respect the view of people who do NOT choose to be vegans.

 

Linda,

 

What precisely did you find offensive? Calling animal flesh " flesh " ?

Because

that is, after all, what it is.

 

-e.

 

 

[Guest guest]

> . . .I was also wondering why the word flesh was used. I

> sounds radical to me .

 

Not at all ;=) please see my post before this one.

 

> I know the purpose of this group is not to conform folks

 

Indeed not. It's to share food ideas, recipes, eating experiences, info on

ingredients and (just possibly) other matters relating to vegetarianism, such

as this one.

 

>and I'd never push my beliefs of being a vegan on anyone.

 

Oh I know what you mean ;=) It's kinda pointless anyway, isn't it? But this is

of

course a vegetarian list and we can and should all feel safe to speak as

vegetarians here.

 

> However, I would love to see the world eating a plant based diet.

 

That'd be great ;=)

 

> My feeling is that could help people who are considering

> giving up meat make that decision

 

It might do that, and it would be assumed, rightly or wrongly, that anyone

vegetarian or otherwise on this list is sympathetic to vegetarian ideas and

values even if they do not at this time embrace them.

 

It was not however the intent, at the founding of this list, to use it to

convert

anyone to anything except perhaps some delicious recipes ;=) People will

choose their own way.

 

> but not if we are offensive to meat eaters.

 

This list is set up for vegetarians. Meat eaters, in the western world at least,

are around 97 per cent of the population, according to how you count em and

who is doing the counting and what you count as 'meat'. That's not exactly an

oppressed minority. They're pretty well secure in who they are, I think. As for

offending them by the poll, remember it was mainly for *vegetarians* - the

majority of our membership. Anyone reading it can see that - it states it

clearly.

Take another look, okay? ;=)

 

I would hope that non-vegetarians on this list would not be offended by the

idea that this is a *vegetarian* list. The list description does not say that it

is to

learn how to cook spicy *vegetable* dishes - it says spicy *vegetarian* dishes.

Non-vegetarians are of course welcome, as are vegans and other

vegetarians ;=)

 

I think Mark has already covered most of the other issues relating to this

topic.

And I have written in as well. If you and everyone else would kindly re-read all

that before posting again on this matter, it would save us all a lot of time.

I'm

not trying to be rude here, but there are some people who find this all very

tedious and would like to get on with things. Actually, the polls were initiated

to save having to spend a lot of time on list about some rather basic matters -

as well as to find out where you are all at so that we can perhaps adjust the

list to members' specific needs or interests. We shall be able to do that better

once the polls have been completed by as many people as possible.

 

And now I am going for lunch.

 

Best,

 

Pat ;=)

[Guest guest]

Here's my take. It is purely correct semantics.

 

Flesh is the soft edible parts of animals while meat can be used to

refer to the soft edible parts of anything, such as the 'meat' of a

nut.

 

So flesh is linguistically correct.

 

Kevin

 

> I am a vegan, and I was also wondering why the word flesh was used.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Cyndi,

 

I joined this group as a 'meateater' several weeks ago to get some good veg

recipes and because I wanted to eat healthier. Since then I have gone

vegetarian except for 'some' seafood. I appreciated the fact that nobody

preached at first and I chose to give up meat because I feel it is unhealthy.

Your point is very valid -

 

" My

feeling is that could help people who are considering

giving up meat make that decision, but not if we are offensive to meat

eaters. "

 

That approach is precisely what turned me. Thank you for not feeling the need

to downgrade others because they have differing views. The fact is most people

in the 'Western' world eat meat, and while thier habits might be unhealthy, and

to some unethical/immoral, viewing them and treating them with disdain will not

further some vegetarians' so-called cause.

 

Thank you again,

 

(the other) Eric

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

ACK. Is this now settled? I hope so. How about a change of topic? Why don't

we engage in a big brainstorming session in the pursuit of the perfect dried

fruit-wild rice stuffing concoction? The holidays are coming, lol............

 

feline_rancher <feline_rancher wrote:Here's my take. It is purely

correct semantics.

 

Flesh is the soft edible parts of animals while meat can be used to

refer to the soft edible parts of anything, such as the 'meat' of a

nut.

 

So flesh is linguistically correct.

 

Kevin

 

> I am a vegan, and I was also wondering why the word flesh was used.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What about when the Flesh of a Peach is spoken of?

Btw, I've been on the list for awhile but only recently started reading it, so

I'm new. I'm Naomi, aspiring vegan from Montana, I live with my mom and my two

toddler children, we are all trying hard to change over to this form of eating.

Thank you for the invitation to the group, and everyone's comments. Peace

 

 

--- Beth Renzetti <elmothree2000 wrote:

ACK. Is this now settled? I hope so. How about a change of topic? Why don't

we engage in a big brainstorming session in the pursuit of the perfect dried

fruit-wild rice stuffing concoction? The holidays are coming, lol............

 

feline_rancher <feline_rancher wrote:Here's my take. It is purely

correct semantics.

 

Flesh is the soft edible parts of animals while meat can be used to

refer to the soft edible parts of anything, such as the 'meat' of a

nut.

 

So flesh is linguistically correct.

 

Kevin

 

> I am a vegan, and I was also wondering why the word flesh was used.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> ACK. Is this now settled? I hope so. How about a change of topic? Why

don't we engage in a big brainstorming session in the pursuit of the perfect

dried fruit-wild rice stuffing concoction? The holidays are coming,

lol...........

 

Oh I do sincerely hope so. Let's bury it now, puh-leez LOL thank you. Much

appreciated. etc etc. blah blah blah.

 

Did I just read dried fruit -wild rice stuffing?????? Come on, my friend,

Give!!!

 

Best,

 

Pat ;=)

[Guest guest]

Hello Naomi, aspiring vegan from Montana!! I wish you well on your journey, I

hope you find joy and peace here.Believe it or not, there is peace in not eating

animals, and changing your diet!!

 

Naomi Odermann <SoySweet wrote:What about when the Flesh of

a Peach is spoken of?

Btw, I've been on the list for awhile but only recently started reading it, so

I'm new. I'm Naomi, aspiring vegan from Montana, I live with my mom and my two

toddler children, we are all trying hard to change over to this form of eating.

Thank you for the invitation to the group, and everyone's comments. Peace

 

 

--- Beth Renzetti <elmothree2000 wrote:

ACK. Is this now settled? I hope so. How about a change of topic? Why don't

we engage in a big brainstorming session in the pursuit of the perfect dried

fruit-wild rice stuffing concoction? The holidays are coming, lol............

 

feline_rancher <feline_rancher wrote:Here's my take. It is purely

correct semantics.

 

Flesh is the soft edible parts of animals while meat can be used to

refer to the soft edible parts of anything, such as the 'meat' of a

nut.

 

So flesh is linguistically correct.

 

Kevin

 

> I am a vegan, and I was also wondering why the word flesh was used.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It is interesting that the the German word for meat is fleish. Rules

for Kasruth (what foods are Kosher for observant Jews) use the words

fleishic (meat), milchic (dairy), and parve (neither).

 

>Here's my take. It is purely correct semantics.

>

>Flesh is the soft edible parts of animals while meat can be used to

>refer to the soft edible parts of anything, such as the 'meat' of a

>nut.

>

>So flesh is linguistically correct.

>

>Kevin

[Guest guest]

(Beware, I'm in an extremely goofy mood due to being awake 1/2 the night.) That

said, my 1st response is, " Silly Pat, Trix are for kids! " I'm a wee bit

backwards. I have recipe ideas then look for an actual recipe. I don't have a

recipe for fruit/wild rice stuffing - I want one!! Between the internet & my

cookbook library, I'll find just the right one. Beth

 

>>>why don't we engage in a big brainstorming session in the pursuit of the

perfect dried fruit-wild rice stuffing concoction?

 

>>>Did I just read dried fruit -wild rice stuffing?????? Come on, my friend,

Give!!!

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I do make for my family a great wild rice cranberry walnut dish, I suppose you

could call it a stuffing!!!

 

Beth Renzetti <elmothree2000 wrote:(Beware, I'm in an extremely goofy

mood due to being awake 1/2 the night.) That said, my 1st response is, " Silly

Pat, Trix are for kids! " I'm a wee bit backwards. I have recipe ideas then

look for an actual recipe. I don't have a recipe for fruit/wild rice stuffing -

I want one!! Between the internet & my cookbook library, I'll find just the

right one. Beth

 

>>>why don't we engage in a big brainstorming session in the pursuit of the

perfect dried fruit-wild rice stuffing concoction?

 

>>>Did I just read dried fruit -wild rice stuffing?????? Come on, my friend,

Give!!!

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sooooo...where's the recipe? Wild rice & cranberries just scream AUTUMN!!!

 

Mark Jackson <thesportsguru47 wrote:I do make for my family a great

wild rice cranberry walnut dish, I suppose you could call it a stuffing!!!

 

Beth Renzetti <elmothree2000 wrote:(Beware, I'm in an extremely goofy

mood due to being awake 1/2 the night.) That said, my 1st response is, " Silly

Pat, Trix are for kids! " I'm a wee bit backwards. I have recipe ideas then

look for an actual recipe. I don't have a recipe for fruit/wild rice stuffing -

I want one!! Between the internet & my cookbook library, I'll find just the

right one. Beth

 

>>>why don't we engage in a big brainstorming session in the pursuit of the

perfect dried fruit-wild rice stuffing concoction?

 

>>>Did I just read dried fruit -wild rice stuffing?????? Come on, my friend,

Give!!!

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mark,

 

That really sounds excellent!

 

Can you post the recipe...before Thanksgiving?

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 

> I do make for my family a great wild rice cranberry walnut dish, I

suppose you could call it a stuffing!!!

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I had to laugh. When we tried to explain to our confounded relatives

> what we ate when we turned vegetarian we said " nothing with EYES, " and

> then my smart aleck sister-in-law said, " So, what about potatoes. "

 

ROFL And I supposed she could have said the same if you'd said 'nothing

with a face' ;=) considering Mr PotatoHead or whatever I've heard.

 

Btw, does that get through to people, the 'nothing with eyes' line? I've tried

'nothing with a face' but then there's an argument about what is a 'face' - you

know, looking for a legal loophole LOL And if one says 'just plants' (although

we aren't vegan, that sometimes just sometimes solves the problem of what

they can expect you to eat) then 75 per cent of people still say something

like,'And of course eggs and cheese and *fish* - you DO eat fish???' Sigghhh.

 

My best regards to your sil. At least she has a sense of humour about it! ;=)

 

Best,

 

Pat ;=)

[Guest guest]

I have been away for a while and came across this thread and followed

it down, just to see how it got started. First, I agree with Linda

about the poll. I am not vegetarian, though I do eat a lot less meat

than before. I left another vegetarian listserve because all I saw

on it was " carnivore " bashing. Like most other things in life,

including relgion, sex, and politic; eating habits can be quite

controversial. I am not particularly interested in why a person is

or is not vegetarian. I am fairly knowledgeable about the variety of

reasons. I think there is enough controvery in the world and I would

like a retreat from that. What I like most about this website are

the recipes. So, everyone, keep sending in those recipes. I am hear

for good food.

 

, Linda Panter <lipant@g...>

wrote:

> I think we have respected the rules of this group, and now it's time

> to respect those who are NOT vegetarian... I find this email with

> the discriptor very insulting. I personally came here to learn

about

> vegetarian food and I respected your rules completely. This is not

a

> fair way to respect the view of people who do NOT choose to be

vegans.

>

> On 11 Sep 2004 21:00:37 -0000,

> wrote:

> >

> > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

> > group:

> >

> > If you are not yet a vegetarian, what is it that

> > keeps you eating animal flesh? If you are a

> > vegetarian who falls of the veggie wagon,

> > what causes this to happen? Give us your

> > best shot at your primary reason!

> > (There are two more polls - and they are

> > related - give them a go too, okay??)

> >

> > o I see no reason why I should not eat flesh.

> > o I am unsure about the healthiness of a flesh-less diet.

> > o I have to eat out a lot in business and/or travel.

> > o Family and friends are more important to me than diet.

> > o Vegetables get boring all the time.

> > o My physician and/or spiritual counsellor advised more of the

flesh.

> > o It's patriotic to eat flesh.

> > o My spouse, partner or girlfriend/boyfriend eats flesh.

> > o Eating flesh looks cool.

> > o I want to help the farmers make a living.

> > o I hate eating flesh but all the animals would feel unloved if

I didn't respect them by eating them.

> > o Other.

> >

> > To vote, please visit the following web page:

> > /surveys?id=732326

> >

> >

> >

> > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are

> > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the

> > web site listed above.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> I have been away for a while

 

Welcome back, Doug ;=) It's been a long time - and the membership here, as

you see, has doubled since you went away . . .

 

>and came across this thread and followed it down, just to see how it got

started.

 

Well, since you have read all the posts on the subject, you will understand

that there's not much more to be said - and we have all kinda moved on ;=)

 

>I am not vegetarian. . .

 

Well, that's okay, but almost all the rest of us are ;=)

 

>I left another vegetarian listserve because all I saw

> on it was " carnivore " bashing.

 

Oh dear :=( I like carnivores. My little cat is a carnivore and he's adorable.

Of

course, humans who eat meat - omnivores - could also be adorable LOL

 

>I am not particularly interested in why a person is or is not vegetarian.

 

Oh but that often comes up, if only in passing (or in, dare I say it, polls) on

a

vegetarian list. But you don't need to feel personally offended - it's not about

you or what you eat; it's about what we *don't* eat ;=)

 

>What I like most about this website are the recipes. So, everyone, keep

sending in those recipes. I am hear for good food.

 

I'm so pleased you like them ;=) I think our members are very creative! And of

course we will also feel quite free to chat from time to time about vegetarian

matters which may arise - this is a safe haven for vegetarians.

 

I like that phrase, btw. I dunno whose list I have borrowed it from, but that's

what this one should be: a safe haven for vegetarians. And on that note, I

think the topic is now officially worn out and, dare I suggest, closed.

 

Best,

 

Pat ;=)

[Guest guest]

I am trying very hard to become a vegan, and have fallen off the wagon alot this

year, and bashed myself abit. I don't like bashing others, and I admit I've seen

a couple almost close insults on here. I realize some people don't like " meat

subsitutes " but they don't need to make the rest of us feel bad about it,

especially since some of us are trying to urge their loved ones to change with

them, and have to use meat subsitutes to do so. But, I don't see anything wrong

with this particular poll, I find it intrigueing to study the different reasons

people come up with, especially when so many meat eaters don't care about one's

feelings and often use phrases like " If it tastes good I don't really care about

the animal " .

 

--- " Doug " <cyclist451 wrote:

I have been away for a while and came across this thread and followed

it down, just to see how it got started. First, I agree with Linda

about the poll. I am not vegetarian, though I do eat a lot less meat

than before. I left another vegetarian listserve because all I saw

on it was " carnivore " bashing. Like most other things in life,

including relgion, sex, and politic; eating habits can be quite

controversial. I am not particularly interested in why a person is

or is not vegetarian. I am fairly knowledgeable about the variety of

reasons. I think there is enough controvery in the world and I would

like a retreat from that. What I like most about this website are

the recipes. So, everyone, keep sending in those recipes. I am hear

for good food.

 

, Linda Panter <lipant@g...>

wrote:

> I think we have respected the rules of this group, and now it's time

> to respect those who are NOT vegetarian... I find this email with

> the discriptor very insulting. I personally came here to learn

about

> vegetarian food and I respected your rules completely. This is not

a

> fair way to respect the view of people who do NOT choose to be

vegans.

>

> On 11 Sep 2004 21:00:37 -0000,

> wrote:

> >

> > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

> > group:

> >

> > If you are not yet a vegetarian, what is it that

> > keeps you eating animal flesh? If you are a

> > vegetarian who falls of the veggie wagon,

> > what causes this to happen? Give us your

> > best shot at your primary reason!

> > (There are two more polls - and they are

> > related - give them a go too, okay??)

> >

> > o I see no reason why I should not eat flesh.

> > o I am unsure about the healthiness of a flesh-less diet.

> > o I have to eat out a lot in business and/or travel.

> > o Family and friends are more important to me than diet.

> > o Vegetables get boring all the time.

> > o My physician and/or spiritual counsellor advised more of the

flesh.

> > o It's patriotic to eat flesh.

> > o My spouse, partner or girlfriend/boyfriend eats flesh.

> > o Eating flesh looks cool.

> > o I want to help the farmers make a living.

> > o I hate eating flesh but all the animals would feel unloved if

I didn't respect them by eating them.

> > o Other.

> >

> > To vote, please visit the following web page:

> > /surveys?id=732326

> >

> >

> >

> > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are

> > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the

> > web site listed above.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >