Phlegm Swollowing Cont....

[Guest guest]

The teaching that I have received under various sifu all agree to " body

intelligence " - irrespective of school of thought. Therefore my response will

be one with that assumption in mind. Remember that all phlegm/damp comes from

post-heaven earth, and will tend to follow the natural cycle of being transfered

to the LU. Maybe swallowing phlegm has some merit in that if you swollow and

digest it, it sends a signal to post-heaven earth that no more phlegm/damp needs

to be or should be created. In conventional medicine phlgem is seen as a result

of an immunological response.... the body's way of defending itself.... that

leads to the accumulation of immune defense cells in thick fluid. I guess this

is the natural process on the road back to healthy LU since the mucus actually

helps for dust and other foreign particles settled in the LU to bind to it so

that it can be cleared. In any case, most medical professionals (be it

conventional, traditonsl, or shaman) that I know all agree that the gut is the

root of the immune system. Soo maybe just maybe, swollowing phlegm sends a

message to earth that damp production should cease, and furth digesting it back

into metal (the large intestine - root of immune system)lets the body know that

enough phlegm is present in the body to clear away and make healthy its partner

the LU.

OR a simplier explaination... maybe there is something in phlegm that stimulates

digestive enzymes that would aid the LU (case of mother nurturing child along

the Qi cycle).

[Guest guest]

Seems to me if you have phlegm the thing to do is spit it out.

Doug

 

 

, " ain.meryt_999 "

<ain.meryt_999 wrote:

>

> The teaching that I have received under various sifu all agree to " body

intelligence " - irrespective of school of thought. Therefore my response will

be one with that assumption in mind. Remember that all phlegm/damp comes from

post-heaven earth, and will tend to follow the natural cycle of being transfered

to the LU. Maybe swallowing phlegm has some merit in that if you swollow and

digest it, it sends a signal to post-heaven earth that no more phlegm/damp needs

to be or should be created. In conventional medicine phlgem is seen as a result

of an immunological response.... the body's way of defending itself.... that

leads to the accumulation of immune defense cells in thick fluid. I guess this

is the natural process on the road back to healthy LU since the mucus actually

helps for dust and other foreign particles settled in the LU to bind to it so

that it can be cleared. In any case, most medical professionals (be it

conventional, traditonsl, or shaman) that I know all agree that the gut is the

root of the immune system. Soo maybe just maybe, swollowing phlegm sends a

message to earth that damp production should cease, and furth digesting it back

into metal (the large intestine - root of immune system)lets the body know that

enough phlegm is present in the body to clear away and make healthy its partner

the LU.

> OR a simplier explaination... maybe there is something in phlegm that

stimulates digestive enzymes that would aid the LU (case of mother nurturing

child along the Qi cycle).

>

[Guest guest]

Doug,

 

In principle, you are right.  HOWEVER, I must tell you that I have come

across a number of patients who either have a problem (for social reasons) with

spitting out phlegm, or (literally!) don't know how to!  Generally the latter

group tend to be have very  sensitive laryngeal and

pharyngeal tissue, and in almost all cases they have suffered emotional

trauma.  Intestingly, John Upledger calls the area around the hyoid, " the

avenue of expression " and feels that unless trauma is dealt with there,

problems such as phlegm, salivation and swollowing will not be resolved. 

Often I also find  Plum Pit Qi with these patients.  Yet when treating them,

the usual formula Ban Xia Hou Po Tang must be modified, as these patients

are almost always vacuous, and BXHPT is contraindicated in such a case.

 

Really interesting topic.

 

My very best,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Fri, April 16, 2010 9:56:44 AM

Re: Phlegm Swollowing Cont....

 

 

Seems to me if you have phlegm the thing to do is spit it out.

Doug

 

, " ain.meryt_999@ ... "

<ain.meryt_999@ ...> wrote:

>

> The teaching that I have received under various sifu all agree to " body

intelligence " - irrespective of school of thought. Therefore my response will be

one with that assumption in mind. Remember that all phlegm/damp comes from

post-heaven earth, and will tend to follow the natural cycle of being transfered

to the LU. Maybe swallowing phlegm has some merit in that if you swollow and

digest it, it sends a signal to post-heaven earth that no more phlegm/damp needs

to be or should be created. In conventional medicine phlgem is seen as a result

of an immunological response.... the body's way of defending itself.... that

leads to the accumulation of immune defense cells in thick fluid. I guess this

is the natural process on the road back to healthy LU since the mucus actually

helps for dust and other foreign particles settled in the LU to bind to it so

that it can be cleared. In any case, most medical professionals (be it

conventional, traditonsl, or

shaman) that I know all agree that the gut is the root of the immune system.

Soo maybe just maybe, swollowing phlegm sends a message to earth that damp

production should cease, and furth digesting it back into metal (the large

intestine - root of immune system)lets the body know that enough phlegm is

present in the body to clear away and make healthy its partner the LU.

> OR a simplier explaination. .. maybe there is something in phlegm that

stimulates digestive enzymes that would aid the LU (case of mother nurturing

child along the Qi cycle).

>