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Jason:

there's no sense in arguing this. But the reality is...

 

Stephen

that is too funny!!! nice one

 

Jason:

You have a choice, you can try to understand what Ding Gan-Ren is

talking about...

 

Stephen:

First, what makes you think that I don't/can't understand it?

It's not mysterious or unfathomable. I just don't agree. There

are many, many instances in the Chinese literature where one

famous person criticizes the opinions of another

And while we are giving advice - you might want to learn the

phrase:

" in my opinion " because that is all any of this is

 

Jason:

All that I can say is try to open your mind and get a larger

vantage point...

 

Stephen:

do you see how condescending that sounds? I arrived at my

opinions based on 15 years of hard study, not because I haven't

gotten this far. I have had teachers that admired and worked with

the style that you like.

 

Jason:

I will always question people who believe that all problems can

be solved with stock SHL formulas

 

Stephen

Well, I don't know anybody who does this. We use formula

combining as I mentioned. Perhaps you have this opinion because

you don't really know the SHL style?

 

I have seen 1000s of formulas written in the basic style you

advocate. You see them as good, ok. I see them differently. Our

opinions differ - I don't much care if others agree. I know what

I see and have seen. You seem to think that I need to " grow into "

the style you like...I could argue that I have already grown out

of it.

 

Jason

This quite simply is to deny 1800 years of knowledge that

followed the SHL and is only limiting.

 

Stephen

This statement seems to ignore that many famous commentators have

decried these " innovations " as tragic and misguided. Again, these

are all only opinions.

 

Jason, I know that you are a smart guy and dedicated to learning.

My advice to you would be to remember that you probably didn't

think the same way 10 years ago that you do now, you likely won't

think the same way 10 years from now.

I am not an evangelist and don't need to try to get people to

agree. I do try to create opportunities for those who wish to

learn an extremely clear and powerful style of Chinese medicine.

It's not the only style out there, but it is quite elegant.

 

Stephen Woodley LAc

www.shanghanlunseminars.com

 

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http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an

unladen european swallow

 

 

 

 

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I talked to Suzanne today and she will update us after the patient's next

visit.

 

 

 

She also confirmed that there were no purple stasis spots and only the red

spots on the tip of the tongue that I discussed below.

 

 

 

-Jason

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of

Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:35 AM

 

RE: Insomnia

 

 

 

 

 

We must look at this " Tongue: red tip with stasis dots " - I personally have

never seen true stasis dots (purple, which signified blood stasis) on just

the tip of the tongue. These usually occur on the sides etc. Since we are

talking about the tip of the tongue and insomnia my guess is she is

referring to red dots on the tongue which are very common. This would not

signify blood stasis. However, only Suzanne can clarify this for us.

Gallbladder removal is definitely not a blood stasis sign.

 

-Jason

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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