Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2010 Jason: there's no sense in arguing this. But the reality is... Stephen that is too funny!!! nice one Jason: You have a choice, you can try to understand what Ding Gan-Ren is talking about... Stephen: First, what makes you think that I don't/can't understand it? It's not mysterious or unfathomable. I just don't agree. There are many, many instances in the Chinese literature where one famous person criticizes the opinions of another And while we are giving advice - you might want to learn the phrase: " in my opinion " because that is all any of this is Jason: All that I can say is try to open your mind and get a larger vantage point... Stephen: do you see how condescending that sounds? I arrived at my opinions based on 15 years of hard study, not because I haven't gotten this far. I have had teachers that admired and worked with the style that you like. Jason: I will always question people who believe that all problems can be solved with stock SHL formulas Stephen Well, I don't know anybody who does this. We use formula combining as I mentioned. Perhaps you have this opinion because you don't really know the SHL style? I have seen 1000s of formulas written in the basic style you advocate. You see them as good, ok. I see them differently. Our opinions differ - I don't much care if others agree. I know what I see and have seen. You seem to think that I need to " grow into " the style you like...I could argue that I have already grown out of it. Jason This quite simply is to deny 1800 years of knowledge that followed the SHL and is only limiting. Stephen This statement seems to ignore that many famous commentators have decried these " innovations " as tragic and misguided. Again, these are all only opinions. Jason, I know that you are a smart guy and dedicated to learning. My advice to you would be to remember that you probably didn't think the same way 10 years ago that you do now, you likely won't think the same way 10 years from now. I am not an evangelist and don't need to try to get people to agree. I do try to create opportunities for those who wish to learn an extremely clear and powerful style of Chinese medicine. It's not the only style out there, but it is quite elegant. Stephen Woodley LAc www.shanghanlunseminars.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Hello Academy, Sorry I have been out of town. I see the insomnia women next week and will let you know what happens. ~Suzanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 24, 2010 I talked to Suzanne today and she will update us after the patient's next visit. She also confirmed that there were no purple stasis spots and only the red spots on the tip of the tongue that I discussed below. -Jason On Behalf Of Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:35 AM RE: Insomnia We must look at this " Tongue: red tip with stasis dots " - I personally have never seen true stasis dots (purple, which signified blood stasis) on just the tip of the tongue. These usually occur on the sides etc. Since we are talking about the tip of the tongue and insomnia my guess is she is referring to red dots on the tongue which are very common. This would not signify blood stasis. However, only Suzanne can clarify this for us. Gallbladder removal is definitely not a blood stasis sign. -Jason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
