Guest guest Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Hello Everyone, Does anyone know of the precise CM description of Ku Ding Cha? As far as I know it does not appear in Bensky or Chen's books. There are some sources referenced by Dharmananda here that I don't have in my possession: http://www.itmonline.org/arts/kudingcha.htm And there's this: http://www.asiancancerherb.info/Gou%20Gu.htm Also, while we're on the subject, what is the proper botanical name for this plant? Is it in fact Ilex Cornuta (AKA Gong Lao Ye) as stated on the cancer herb website (and distinct from Folium Ilex sinensis/Dong Qing Ye)? Is this medicinal Thanks in advance, Derek Owen Doss, L.Ac., Dipl. O.M. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Here is a partial entry from the book I am working on… Ilicis latifoliae Folium (kû dïng chá) is bitter, cool, enters and circulates the collaterals, promotes urination, expels Liver fire, and clears damp-heat from the Liver and gallbladder … There are three kinds of ku ding cha. The ones suitable for this pattern (internal clumping of wind and fire) are the larger leaves sliced into small pieces and lie somewhere between the smaller (tender) leaves and longer rolled sticks that one finds in the modern tea stores. One can use these latter varieties, however they are milder and if the problem is serious on should purchase the above-mentioned leaves from a reputable herb store. Hope this helps… - On Behalf Of Derek Owen Doss Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:38 PM Ku Ding Cha? Hello Everyone, Does anyone know of the precise CM description of Ku Ding Cha? As far as I know it does not appear in Bensky or Chen's books. There are some sources referenced by Dharmananda here that I don't have in my possession: http://www.itmonline.org/arts/kudingcha.htm And there's this: http://www.asiancancerherb.info/Gou%20Gu.htm Also, while we're on the subject, what is the proper botanical name for this plant? Is it in fact Ilex Cornuta (AKA Gong Lao Ye) as stated on the cancer herb website (and distinct from Folium Ilex sinensis/Dong Qing Ye)? Is this medicinal Thanks in advance, Derek Owen Doss, L.Ac., Dipl. O.M. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2010 Thanks Jason. Keep us posted about when your book will be out. So, is Gong Lao Ye a proper synonym for this medicinal? Sorry, I'm not a botanist...Is Ilex latifoliae distinct from Ilex cornuta? Or is this another case where there are multiple species that can accceptably be called the same medicinal? This is a different plant then Dong Qing Ye/Folium Ilex chinensis, right? Also, I'm curious about the approximate caffeine content. -D.O.D. , " " wrote: > > Here is a partial entry from the book I am working on… > > > > Ilicis latifoliae Folium (kû dïng chá) is bitter, cool, enters and > circulates the collaterals, promotes urination, expels Liver fire, and > clears damp-heat from the Liver and gallbladder … > > > > There are three kinds of ku ding cha. The ones suitable for this pattern > (internal clumping of wind and fire) are the larger leaves sliced into small > pieces and lie somewhere between the smaller (tender) leaves and longer > rolled sticks that one finds in the modern tea stores. One can use these > latter varieties, however they are milder and if the problem is serious on > should purchase the above-mentioned leaves from a reputable herb store. > > > > Hope this helps… > > > > - > > > > > On Behalf Of Derek Owen Doss > Wednesday, February 17, 2010 4:38 PM > > Ku Ding Cha? > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > Does anyone know of the precise CM description of Ku Ding Cha? > As far as I know it does not appear in Bensky or Chen's books. > There are some sources referenced by Dharmananda here that I don't have in > my possession: > http://www.itmonline.org/arts/kudingcha.htm > > And there's this: > http://www.asiancancerherb.info/Gou%20Gu.htm > > Also, while we're on the subject, what is the proper botanical name for this > plant? Is it in fact Ilex Cornuta (AKA Gong Lao Ye) as stated on the cancer > herb website (and distinct from Folium Ilex sinensis/Dong Qing Ye)? Is this > medicinal > > Thanks in advance, > > Derek Owen Doss, L.Ac., Dipl. O.M. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
