Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Does anyone have any good " longevity wine " recipes that they are willing to share. I seemed to have lost my small collection. -Jason Acupuncture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Jason, Here's a potential longevity liqueur formula from the late James Ramholz. Don't know if 8 Immortals relates to the one you seek. Quoted: <<Eight Immortals is a very cold formula. It strongly supplements the yin, bones, marrow, and dantien. It helps condense and circulate the qi deep in the physical structure. This formula should be made either as a honey pill or liqueur, not as a tea or decoction. Contraindication: Low yin or yang, low hormonal energy, common cold, eating raw food and poor digestion. Angelica sinensis 6.0 Chinemys reevesii Phellodendron amurense Anemarrhena asphodeloides Biota orientalis Cornus officinalis Achyranthes bidentata 3.0 Polygonum multiflorum 1.0>> Frances Gander, L.Ac. Athens, Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Hi Jason I don't have a personal list but Subhuti turned me on to this great book and it was inexpensive. " Chinese Medicated Liquor Therapy " Â Chief Editor: Song Nong, Translator: Li Guohua. It was published by Beijing Science & Technology Press. Chapter 7 is Medicated Liquors for Nourishment and Longevity. Patrick --- On Sun, 2/7/10, wrote: wines Sunday, February 7, 2010, 6:11 PM Â Does anyone have any good " longevity wine " recipes that they are willing to share. I seemed to have lost my small collection. -Jason Acupuncture www.ChineseMedicine Doc.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Thanks, just ordered it per your recommendation… -Jason On Behalf Of Patrick Edgmon Monday, February 08, 2010 11:11 AM Re: wines Hi Jason I don't have a personal list but Subhuti turned me on to this great book and it was inexpensive. " Chinese Medicated Liquor Therapy " Chief Editor: Song Nong, Translator: Li Guohua. It was published by Beijing Science & Technology Press. Chapter 7 is Medicated Liquors for Nourishment and Longevity. Patrick 12/06/09 12:37:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Below is the personal formulas for the long life wine of General Lee Ching-Yeun. It is a typical traditional Chinese longevity formulas in that it supplements the qi, blood, yin, and yang. Of course, it should not be used by anyone who is not already yang deficient. General Lee's Spring Wine (Base formula) Lu Rong 28 g Lu Jiao Jiao 28 g E Jiao 25 g Gui Ban 25 g Yin Yang Huo 25 g Shu Di Huang 25 g Dang Gui 14 g Huang Qi 14 g Du Zhong 14 g Gou Qi Zi 14 g Nu Zhen Zi 12 g Sou Yang 12 g Zi He Che 12 g Ren Shen 12 g Hai Ma 12 g Fu Pen Zi 9 g Ge Jie ½ Gecko General Lee's Spring Wine (with common mods) Lu Rong 28 g Lu Jiao Jiao 28 g E Jiao 25 g Gui Ban 25 g Yin Yang Huo 25 g Shu Di Huang 25 g Dang Gui 14 g Huang Qi 14 g Du Zhong 14 g Gou Qi Zi 14 g Nu Zhen Zi 12 g Sou Yang 12 g Zi He Che 12 g Ren Shen 12 g Hai Ma 12 g Mu Dan Pi 12 g Fu Pen Zi 9 g Ashwaghanda 9 g Chen Pi 9 g Wu Jia Pi 6 g Ge Jie ½ Gecko Other mods to consider: to produce a hormonal effect for the growth of muscular tissue and strength you might consider adding: Xian Mao, Bu Gu Zhi, and She Chuang Zi to deal with bruising and injury from martial arts training, you might consider adding San Qi (9 g) or Pu Huang (12 g), or Chi Shao (12 g) to deal with dampness, you might consider adding Ban Xia (12 g) and/or upping the dosage of Chen Pi (18 g). If you tend to get sick often, you might consider increasing the illness fighting capability of this formula by upping Huang Qi (25 g), adding Fang Feng (15 g), Dong Chong Xia Cao (12 g), or by supplementing the recipe with natural antibiotic herbs such as the three Yellows (Huang Qin, Huang Bai, Huang Lian, all in 9 g dosage) or adding several pieces of Ban Lan Gen. Wine Preparation: Place these ingredients in a large ceramic vessel and cover with one (1) gallon of strong liquor, such as brandy or vodka. Seal and allow to tincture for 12 months or more. Add honey or sugar to taste. Drink 1-2 ounces before bed each night, more in the winter and less in the summer. Jason, to learn more about this topic I recently ordered " Chinese Medicinal Wines & Elixirs " by Bob Flaws. However, it hasn't arrived yet. Anyway, if you come across some medicinal wines that you find promising, I would appreciate you sharing the formulas with me. Best wishes, Robert Asbridge Albuquerque, NM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 The Tao of health, sex and Longevity by Daniel Reid lists the ingredients for a yao-jiou. I've personally tried this one, and it packs quite a punch. It calls for human placenta, but I'm fairly sure the one used was from a pig. Reid doesnt list the pinyin, so here are the herbs common names: Deerhorn Shavings 60g Deerhorn resin 60g Resin made from the hide of wild black donkeys 60g Resin made from tortoise shells 60g Horny Goat Weed 60g Rehmannia rhizome 60g Astragalus root 30g Angelica root 25g Eucommia bark 25 Chinese wolfberry 25g Japanese wax-prvet seeds 25g Cynomorium stems 25g Dried Human placenta 25g Korean ginseng 15g Raspberry seeds 15g Sea Horse 2 each red spotted lizard 2 each (one male one female) Place all in 8-10 liter container (glass or ceramic). Pour in 6 litres of brandy, rum or vodka. Seal and set aside for three to six months shaking occasionally. Strain half into clean bottles and then add 3 more liters of fresh alcohol to the remaining brew. Reseal and steep for another 3-6 months. Sweeten each bottle with several lumps of crystal rock sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 For those interested in this topic, the following article is a good read. HERBS FOR LONGEVITY: AN INTRODUCTION TO THE TEACHINGS OF MASTER LI CHING YUEN http://www.monmouthspine.com/Articles/herbs_for_longevity.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 , " LucasB " <ldanielb wrote: > > The Tao of health, sex and Longevity by Daniel Reid lists the ingredients for a yao-jiou. > I've personally tried this one, and it packs quite a punch. It calls for human placenta, but I'm fairly sure the one used was from a pig. > Reid doesnt list the pinyin, so here are the herbs common names: > > Deerhorn Shavings 60g > Deerhorn resin 60g > Resin made from the hide of wild black donkeys 60g > Resin made from tortoise shells 60g > Horny Goat Weed 60g > Rehmannia rhizome 60g > Astragalus root 30g > Angelica root 25g > Eucommia bark 25 > Chinese wolfberry 25g > Japanese wax-prvet seeds 25g > Cynomorium stems 25g > Dried Human placenta 25g > Korean ginseng 15g > Raspberry seeds 15g > Sea Horse 2 each > red spotted lizard 2 each (one male one female) That is a fairly typical recipe. By red-spotted lizard, one can only assume he means a pair of ge jie (gecko), which is typical [remove the head and feet before use]. Deerhorn shavings could be Lu Jiao or Lu Rong, Lu Rong is much stronger and is more typical in these applications. " Resin from wild black donkeys " would be E Jiao, but the beast is farm-raised, you won't find any " wild " E Jiao on the market (but requesting it would be a great way to test how far the vendor is willing to rip you off; ask for some wild Tian Ma and wild San Qi as well so that you can have a full collection of virtually extinct, mythical products). " Raspberry seeds " refers to Fu Pen Zi, the rest are all fairly obvious. I use a family recipe that the pharmacist that I studied with passed down to me. By definition, most of these recipes are quite similar but they tend to be guarded with secrecy nonetheless. The best published source of medicinal wines is Blue Poppy's book Chinese Medicinal Wines & Elixirs, 2nd edition. Here is a link: http://bluepoppy.com/cfwebstorefb/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display & product_i\ d=357 Eric Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Thank you for sharing! For those interested, here is the formula in Pinyin: Lu Rong, 60 g Lu Jiao Jiao, 60 g Gui Ban, 60 g E Jiao, 60 g Yin Yang Huo, 60 g Shu Di Huang, 60 g Huang Qi, 30 g Dang Gui, 25 g Du Zhong, 25 g Gou Qi Zi, 25 g Nu Zhen Zi, 25 g Suo Yang, 25 g Zi He Che, 25 g Ren Shen (Red), 15 g Fu Pen Zi, 15 g Hai Ma, 2 pieces Ge Jie, 1 pair (one male and one female) , " LucasB " <ldanielb wrote: > > The Tao of health, sex and Longevity by Daniel Reid lists the ingredients for a yao-jiou. > I've personally tried this one, and it packs quite a punch. It calls for human placenta, but I'm fairly sure the one used was from a pig. > Reid doesnt list the pinyin, so here are the herbs common names: > > Deerhorn Shavings 60g > Deerhorn resin 60g > Resin made from the hide of wild black donkeys 60g > Resin made from tortoise shells 60g > Horny Goat Weed 60g > Rehmannia rhizome 60g > Astragalus root 30g > Angelica root 25g > Eucommia bark 25 > Chinese wolfberry 25g > Japanese wax-prvet seeds 25g > Cynomorium stems 25g > Dried Human placenta 25g > Korean ginseng 15g > Raspberry seeds 15g > Sea Horse 2 each > red spotted lizard 2 each (one male one female) > > Place all in 8-10 liter container (glass or ceramic). Pour in 6 litres of brandy, rum or vodka. Seal and set aside for three to six months shaking occasionally. Strain half into clean bottles and then add 3 more liters of fresh alcohol to the remaining brew. Reseal and steep for another 3-6 months. Sweeten each bottle with several lumps of crystal rock sugar. > http://www.monmouthspine.com/Articles/herbs_for_longevity.pdf > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 If the standard herbal application was a decoction meant to be used that day was a wine created for " longevity " meaning the herbal formula could last through the seasons ready for use latter. Is there a major difference bewteen using alcohol, vinegar, or honey (not as in honey pills, but as syrups) in these herbal wines? Ed Kasper LAc www.HappyHerbalist.com , " starguard_1 " <starguard_1 wrote: > > For those interested in this topic, the following article is a good read. > > HERBS FOR LONGEVITY: AN INTRODUCTION TO THE TEACHINGS OF MASTER LI CHING YUEN > > http://www.monmouthspine.com/Articles/herbs_for_longevity.pdf > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 , " happyherbalist2001 " <eddy wrote: > Is there a major difference bewteen using alcohol, vinegar, or honey (not as in honey pills, but as syrups) in these herbal wines? Alcohol (40% and up) is usually the traditional base for wines. Vinegar is more commonly used as an excipient to make some types of traditional pills, and it is commonly the liquid base for external formulas ( " hit medicine, " common in the martial arts). Honey and molasses are more common in cough syrups, and these sugars often fail to deliver the shelf life that alcohol has to offer. A minor note on the pinyin from the original formula: It should be Gui Ban Jiao, not Gui Ban itself. Gui Ban Jiao is the gelatin of Gui Ban, it is similar to Lu Jiao Jiao in its consistency. For Korean ginseng, typically pharmacists refer to it as Gao Li Shen, as Ren Shen (Hong Shen) tends to refer to Chinese red ginseng rather than Korean red ginseng. As noted before, the original formula didn't differentiate Lu Jiao (mature antler) from Lu Rong (velvet antler), but it can be safely assumed that Lu Rong is the item intended, as starguard1 noted (the formula contains the gelatin Lu Jiao Jiao as well as the antler itself). Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Eric, thanks for the comparisons. Vinegars are also used in medicinals. I understand the differences in shelf life and preparation of the varios solvents. But I am interested more in the rationale. The Ancients had choices. Why chose alcohol, vinegar, honey, or a powder ? In the United States alcohol is the choice - the industry standard - becasue of legal issues and not medicinal considerations. Of course not counting pills, capsules or granuales which I throw into the 'powder' catagory. Ed Kasper , " smilinglotus " <smilinglotus wrote: > > > > , " happyherbalist2001 " <eddy@> wrote: > > > Is there a major difference bewteen using alcohol, vinegar, or honey (not as in honey pills, but as syrups) in these herbal wines? > > Alcohol (40% and up) is usually the traditional base for wines. Vinegar is more commonly used as an excipient to make some types of traditional pills, and it is commonly the liquid base for external formulas ( " hit medicine, " common in the martial arts). Honey and molasses are more common in cough syrups, and these sugars often fail to deliver the shelf life that alcohol has to offer. > > A minor note on the pinyin from the original formula: It should be Gui Ban Jiao, not Gui Ban itself. Gui Ban Jiao is the gelatin of Gui Ban, it is similar to Lu Jiao Jiao in its consistency. For Korean ginseng, typically pharmacists refer to it as Gao Li Shen, as Ren Shen (Hong Shen) tends to refer to Chinese red ginseng rather than Korean red ginseng. As noted before, the original formula didn't differentiate Lu Jiao (mature antler) from Lu Rong (velvet antler), but it can be safely assumed that Lu Rong is the item intended, as starguard1 noted (the formula contains the gelatin Lu Jiao Jiao as well as the antler itself). > > Eric > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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