Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Posted May 8, 2007 Thomas, Though what you say is correct, I wonder if you find the status quo acceptable: Come some time to the largest herbal store in Chinatown, LA, Wing Hop Fung, and you will find lots of products from all over China, with varying degrees of reliability, some quite recognizable and some completely unknown. You will see all sorts or people looking through the shelves and you will see helpful employees with little or no background ready to recommend whatever their books or inserts recommend, many speaking very limited English. You have unreliable quality herbs, sold by untrained salespeople to desperate consumers. What would you suggest? Can you offer a more ethical, more reliable or more available system. I hate the FDA's regulatory intrusion on what I can use or have available, but how will the GMP recommendations reliably change this to the better. My apologies for not clarifying my respect for the Western Herbal tradition. I agree that there are indeed trained quality practitioners, who also use sophisticated formulas to resolve illness successfully. However, I would still claim that Chinese diagnostics better view the interconnectiveness of the body and emotions, and as Chris stated require a different way of thinking to be a successful practitioner. I feel that our challenge is the integration of outside medicinal substances into the practice of Chinese medicine. As far as chaparral and comfrey are concerned whether labeled for external use only is not the issue: The issue is who tells us (and to what degree) how to practice. respectfully Yehuda wrote: Yehuda, Chris, all, I disagree! Patterns are made up of a complex of symptoms (and signs) that cause a " disease " or illness, such as headache. If the label says something like: for headache with red eyes, pain in the vertex, etc. then I think anyone with half a brain can understand the difference between this and headache with pain around the temples and stuffiness in the chest, etc. I also disagree when you say that Western herbal formulas are more simple than Chinese formulas, this is simply pure bias. Do you have training in Western herbal medicine that would lead you to such conclusions? The jargon is different, and I don't think the methodology is always as clear, but the end result is the same. Western herbalists don't always recognize a connection between some of the symptoms that Chinese herbalist put together in a pattern to form a diagnosis, but their formulation ends up being remarkably similar, they just use different plants, thus different formula. Furthermore, they often use information we are not trained to use or simply chose not to use, which can add remarkable depth to their formulation. BTW: Last time I checked chaparral and comfry were still available, although they have to be labeled " for external use only. " Thomas Honolulu, HI www.sourcepointherbs.org Quote
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