Personality Types

[Guest guest]

That is exactly what this study was about. The CDC tested the blood of a

number of people of varying ages and determined what was in it. They found

many such chemicals as DDT, which has not been used for many years in this

country. Check out the link at

>>>Its a great link, however, there are some studies showing the same level of

contamination in sick and healthy people.Even DDT toxicity is not totally

understood and many in Africa are begging for the US to produce and supply it.

DDT is the most effective stuff we have to irradiate malaria (and the Africans

are more wearied about known death from malaria). There are some new studies

that question many of the older information on DDT toxicity and many so-called

healthy people have fairly high levels in both blood and fat tissues.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

The incidence of all cancers among infants less than one year old, both sexes,

age adjusted, has risen 36% when comparing the years 1976-1984 to 1986-1994. The

incidence for germ cell cancers in that same group has increased 124%. The

increases were lower for older children, but still, they were increases.

>>>I wander where he gets this statistic, he gives no ref.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

You might then be interested in a CDC toxin study in which Bill Moyers took

part in. I am not sure if it is on their site or not. I think on a great

many of the chemicals listed in the MSDS (material safety data safety) we

know they are hazardous and to what degree. You can never be 100% absolute

as amount of exposure and time play a large role in the damage. Also check

out this site http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/EDs-PWG-16jun01.htm for a

interesting connection of petro chemicals and endocrine disorders.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

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>Re: Personality Types

>Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:30:12 -0600

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>I, personally think that environmental toxins is probably a bigger

>contributor and that people who live longer are accumulating or holding

>more

>toxins, ie can cause more cellular damage.

> >>>No question it is a problem but we still do not know with any

>confidence what is the true impact.I cannot except muscle testing (O-ring

>or any other version), EAV or any other electrodermal testing as sufficient

>evidence (although interesting and with time may yield evidence). Since we

>find environmental toxins in almost equal amounts in healthy and sick

>population (i.e. one can find evidence to support either argument) we are

>still functioning in a territory of belief.By the way we just started our

>study testing 3 popular labs for heavy metal urine testing. We are sending

>sample for 6 patients with split samples to each lab. Thus we will find if

>they have both inter and intra agreement.

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[Guest guest]

That is exactly what this study was about. The CDC tested the blood of a

number of people of varying ages and determined what was in it. They found

many such chemicals as DDT, which has not been used for many years in this

country. Check out the link at

file:///Users/mikebowser/Desktop/Endocrine%20Disruptors%20.html for a better

connection to what these things do. Later

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

> " " <alonmarcus

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>Re: Personality Types

>Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:21:04 -0600

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>You might then be interested in a CDC toxin study in which Bill Moyers took

>part in. I am not sure if it is on their site or not. I think on a great

>many of the chemicals listed in the MSDS (material safety data safety) we

>know they are hazardous and to what degree. You can never be 100% absolute

>as amount of exposure and time play a large role in the damage.

> >>>Mike as i said there is conflicting information. obviously there are

>many very dangerous chemicals for which we have very clear information. I

>am talking about average exposure studies.

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[Guest guest]

weird link below.

>>>Did you see the 911 stuff?

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

weird link below.

 

 

That is exactly what this study was about. The CDC tested the blood of a

number of people of varying ages and determined what was in it. They found

many such chemicals as DDT, which has not been used for many years in this

country. Check out the link at

file:///Users/mikebowser/Desktop/Endocrine%20Disruptors%20.html for a better

connection to what these things do. Later

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

???

I'm puzzled. The link seemed non-functional.

ann

 

 

weird link below.

>>>Did you see the 911 stuff?

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

One can always question what was and if this info is legit. As a bio

undergrad I had a chance to see and learn about many such environmental

toxins. A scientist would have to be in the back pocket of petro producer

to think otherwise on this one. None of these toxins is healthy it is only

a matter of how much to make you ill or in what combination with another to.

By the way, DDT is still used in other parts of the world and we consume

through foreign produce imported and consumed by us. So much for progress.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

> " " <alonmarcus

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>Re: Personality Types

>Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:32:41 -0600

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>That is exactly what this study was about. The CDC tested the blood of a

>number of people of varying ages and determined what was in it. They found

>many such chemicals as DDT, which has not been used for many years in this

>country. Check out the link at

> >>>Its a great link, however, there are some studies showing the same

>level of contamination in sick and healthy people.Even DDT toxicity is not

>totally understood and many in Africa are begging for the US to produce and

>supply it. DDT is the most effective stuff we have to irradiate malaria

>(and the Africans are more wearied about known death from malaria). There

>are some new studies that question many of the older information on DDT

>toxicity and many so-called healthy people have fairly high levels in both

>blood and fat tissues.

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[Guest guest]

None of these toxins is healthy it is only

a matter of how much to make you ill or in what combination with another to.

>>>>>That is the million $ question. How much and why some get sick and others

do not

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

By the way, DDT is still used in other parts of the world and we consume

through foreign produce imported and consumed by us. So much for progress.

>>>>I was wandering about that since i heard an NPR program about the Africans

trying to convince the US to re-supply DDT to them to fight malaria. I wander

why they just dont get it elsewhere, perhaps is cost too much

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm puzzled. The link seemed non-functional.

>>>I was able to link. Very interesting site but some outthere ideas on 911

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Perhaps it is too deadly and other foreign companies would rather not.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

> " " <alonmarcus

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>Re: Personality Types

>Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:07:57 -0600

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>By the way, DDT is still used in other parts of the world and we consume

>through foreign produce imported and consumed by us. So much for progress.

> >>>>I was wandering about that since i heard an NPR program about the

>Africans trying to convince the US to re-supply DDT to them to fight

>malaria. I wander why they just dont get it elsewhere, perhaps is cost too

>much

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[Guest guest]

Lets see toxic load in system, blood type, genetic makeup, qi, etc. You

pick but remember that life is not an exact science. I still think we need

to become better educated as to their danger and let our patients know.

Limiting them can be smart medicine and a better life. Reminds me, I need

to have my amalgams replaced.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

> " " <alonmarcus

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>Re: Personality Types

>Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:05:27 -0600

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>None of these toxins is healthy it is only

>a matter of how much to make you ill or in what combination with another

>to.

> >>>>>That is the million $ question. How much and why some get sick and

>others do not

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[Guest guest]

Perhaps it is too deadly and other foreign companies would rather not.

>>>>>Did you say they are already make it?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I still think we need

to become better educated as to their danger and let our patients know.

>>>No question, but we also have to realize that we are all already contaminated

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Karla,

 

My situation in western Montana on an Indian Reservation is probably as much of

a challenge as your situation. I advise my own students, when starting a

practice, unless they are a masochist, to *not* choose an area like where I now

live.

 

I've had to focus much more on education in small groups and classes. Diets are

atrocious, lots of addictive patterns. But the potential is huge. The clean air

and outdoor beauty is very therapeutic. We too have a " live free or die " ethos

that permeates attitudes here, and that does tend to help people focus on their

own responsibilities.

 

By the way, are you familiar with the " Free State Project " ? - a group of

libertarians who decided to move en masse to New Hampshire because they decided

it was the best candidate for their experiement of promoting libertarian

policies in government. Montana came in #2 in the vote several years ago. I'll

bet there are a lot of Health Freedom activists in your area who would be

receptive to TCM.

 

Roger

 

 

> Karla Renaud <karlarenaud

>Re: Re: Personality Types

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>Perhaps the " live free or die " attitude in NH, which means there are no laws

requiring seat belt use in cars or helmets for motorcyclists, also makes people

more receptive to personal responsibilty and living with the consequences of the

choices one makes, eh?

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>People respond to one's attitude and intent (helping them not lecturing them).

My own mission when starting this work was literally " I will help people be

more comfortable with transformation. " --and that's still my main goal.

Presenting things as good old-fashioned common sense, that works around here! I

use lots of nature metaphors, car and sports metaphors about how to live and

take care of oneself. Being an optimist, I believe people want to transform

and will change, it's just scary without guidance, support, and encouragement.

Provide that safe atmosphere with treatment and it just happens naturally. I

don't push it, it just unfolds.

 

>I do like all the demographics factors you mention below, I can see how they

would be good predictors. Some us nuts have to expand this profession into new

territories though!

>Karla

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>... Number of health food stores, environmental awareness, tolerance of new

ideas, educational levels, opportunities for outdoor exercise and recreation,

level of support for the arts are all factors that correlate with the ideal type

of situation that Karla describes.---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist

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---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist

contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/

Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA

Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org

[Guest guest]

" Everyone must be NCCAOM certified, even chiropractors (couldn't do anything

about MDs). "

 

Karla,

 

Not quite right, chiropractors can get the minimalist training, but can't

call or advertise what they do acupuncture. My experience with this is that

they still say they do acupuncture, but the law still keeps them from

advertising that they do.

 

 

 

Sean

 

Nashua, NH

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, they still do.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

> " " <alonmarcus

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>Re: Personality Types

>Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:29:39 -0600

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>Perhaps it is too deadly and other foreign companies would rather not.

> >>>>>Did you say they are already make it?

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