Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Posted May 14, 2002 Does anyone know of an effective external salve for oozing radiation lesions from breast cancer. I will treat internal condition but was wondering about a supportive external salve. There is some lymphatic swelling also. Thanks. LAUNCH - Your Music Experience http://launch. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Posted May 16, 2002 What's oozing? Serous fluid? Serosanguinous fluid? Pus? Lesions are red? hot? blistered? open? Toham Kum Rah, Dana Corbin Quote
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Posted May 16, 2002 You might try Ching Wan Hung, I have had some success with it for topically treating some minor radiation side effects, although they were not in the 'oozing' state. Mel Krueger, L.Ac. M & M's TCM Clinic Flagstaff, AZ - " connie reynolds " <conniekreynolds Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:33 PM salve for radiation lesions > Does anyone know of an effective external salve for > oozing radiation lesions from breast cancer. I will > treat internal condition but was wondering about a > supportive external salve. There is some lymphatic > swelling also. > > > Thanks. > > > > LAUNCH - Your Music Experience > http://launch. > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Posted May 17, 2002 Connie, I think you're quite right in wanting to combine internally administered meds with an external application. That's typically the way to go in such situations. However, also typically, if a sore is open and " oozing, " you don't want to use an oil-based ointment. According to CM theory, applying oil-based remedies to such conditions traps the dampness inside and forces it to spread laterally, thus causing a larger sore or problem. Instead, powders and water, honey, alcohol, or vinegar pastes are used. To make such a paste, you take whatever powdered herbs you want to use and mix with whichever liquid medium. Three Yellows or Four Yellows are both simple heat-clearing, dampness-eliminating formulas that are often used as external treatments for such sores. Jing Wan Hong (a.k.a. Ching Wan Hung) is an oil-based ointment. So are Blue Poppy's Clear Heat (Four Yellows) and Cut & Sore. So I wouldn't use any of these until the suppuration cleared up. Then any of these would, in my opinion, also be ok. Bob , connie reynolds <conniekreynolds> wrote: > Does anyone know of an effective external salve for > oozing radiation lesions from breast cancer. I will > treat internal condition but was wondering about a > supportive external salve. There is some lymphatic > swelling also. > > > Thanks. > > > > LAUNCH - Your Music Experience > http://launch. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Posted May 17, 2002 Dear Bob, According to my medical dictionary " suppuration " means the production and discharge of pus. Dana Quote
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Posted May 17, 2002 pemachophel2001 wrote: > To make such a > paste, you take whatever powdered herbs you want to use and mix with > whichever liquid medium. What do you think about using extracts instead of ground up (powdered) herbs? -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Posted May 17, 2002 Al, Don't know. Never tried this. Since extracts are more potent, they could be even more effective than simple powdered herbs when applied topically. Such a comparison would make a nice little study. It would be A) great to know this methodology works and B) that it works even better than powdered whole herbs. Bob , Al Stone <alstone@b...> wrote: > > > pemachophel2001 wrote: > > > To make such a > > paste, you take whatever powdered herbs you want to use and mix with > > whichever liquid medium. > > What do you think about using extracts instead of ground up (powdered) herbs? > > -- > Al Stone L.Ac. > <AlStone@B...> > http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com > > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Posted May 18, 2002 I've had great results using water/alcohol extracts directly on skin rashes and sores. . . .for example, using huang lian jie du tang for poison oak rash with itching, heat and soreness. On Friday, May 17, 2002, at 10:47 AM, Al Stone wrote: > > > pemachophel2001 wrote: > > > To make such a > > paste, you take whatever powdered herbs you want to use and mix with > > whichever liquid medium. > > What do you think about using extracts instead of ground up (powdered) > herbs? > > -- > Al Stone L.Ac. > <AlStone > http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com > > Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. > > Quote
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