Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Has anyone tried Ah Shi Pain Creme? If so what have been your results? I have been using it with patients, but not seeing the results quoted on their website. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hi Steve, & All, > Has anyone tried Ah Shi Pain Creme? If so what have been your results? > I have been using it with patients, but not seeing the results quoted > on their website. Steve I do not know that brand, but see http://ashi-research.com/product.html They have several different Ashi pain creams. A summary of the ingredients is: Of 9 products listed, ALL (9/9) contained the following 12 Hbs: Baizhi-Angelicae dahuricae Rx Bohechuan-Menthol Cangzhu-Black Atractylodis Rz Chenpi-Tangerine Pc Dahuang-Rhei Rx + Rz Houpo-Magnolia Cx Huangbai-Phellodendri Cx Jianghuang-Curcuma longa Rz-Tumeric Sanqi-Notoginseng Rx Tianhuafen-Trichosanthis Rx Tiannanxing-Arisaematis Rz Yanhusuo-Corydalis 8/9 had Hujiaosu-Capsicain 7/9 had CAOWU-Aconiti kusnezoffii Rx 3/9 had Danggui- Chinese Angelica Rx [women´s cream] 3/9 had Ruxiang-Boswellia [women´s cream] 3/9 had Duhuo-Angelica Pubescent Rx 3/9 had FANGJI (Feng)-Rx Stepjaniae tetrandae 2/9 had Guizhi-Cinnamon Twig 2/9 had Haifengteng-Kadsura Pepper caulis DETAILS: Ashi Acute Pain cream (13 Hbs) men / women w pain~acute Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; Chenpi; Dahuang; Guizhi; Houpo; Huangbai; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain BM (15 Hbs) men w loin pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Duhuo; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain BW (17 Hbs) women w loin pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; Duhuo; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain LM (15 Hbs) men w knee / hip / ankle pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; FANGJI (Feng); Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain LW (17 Hbs) women w knee / hip / ankle pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; FANGJI (Feng); Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain Original (14 Hbs) chronic pain Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain UM (15 Hbs) men w neck / shoulder / elbow / wrist / carpal pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Haifengteng; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain UW (17 Hbs) women w neck / shoulder / elbow / wrist / carpal pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; Haifengteng; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Patch (16 Hbs) use on Ashi Pts after acupuncture for pain relief; change every 1-2 days Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; Chenpi; Dahuang; Duhuo; FANGJI (Feng); Guizhi; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com - " snydez99 " <snydez99 " Traditional " <Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:40:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern  Ah Shi Pain Creme  Has anyone tried Ah Shi Pain Creme? If so what have been your results? I have been using it with patients, but not seeing the results quoted on their website. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I've been underwhelmed. In all fairness, however, maybe patients need to use 2-3 of the little jars; so far, just one jar hasn't made a big impact. Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 " <snydez99 wrote: > > Has anyone tried Ah Shi Pain Creme? If so what have been your results? > I have been using it with patients, but not seeing the results quoted on their website. Steve > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I have found that topical application of herbs can be very effective but just like with internal herbs it is vital that the diagnosis is acurate. It looks like from the formulas listed below you can see dampness, hot, cold ect....if used for proper presentation the results should be much better. Personally I make my own using poultices or linements/tinctures. I apply them directly to the problem or at times to acupuncture points such as Du 14. Happy new year Be well, Bob Robert Linde, AP, RH Professional Herbalists Training Program Acupuncture & Herbal Therapies 901I  Central Ave St. Petersburg, FL 33705 www.acuherbals.com 727-551-0857 --- On Thu, 12/31/09, < wrote: < Re: Ah Shi Pain Creme Chinese Medicine Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:44 AM  Hi Steve, & All, > Has anyone tried Ah Shi Pain Creme? If so what have been your results? > I have been using it with patients, but not seeing the results quoted > on their website. Steve I do not know that brand, but see http://ashi- research. com/product. html They have several different Ashi pain creams. A summary of the ingredients is: Of 9 products listed, ALL (9/9) contained the following 12 Hbs: Baizhi-Angelicae dahuricae Rx Bohechuan-Menthol Cangzhu-Black Atractylodis Rz Chenpi-Tangerine Pc Dahuang-Rhei Rx + Rz Houpo-Magnolia Cx Huangbai-Phellodend ri Cx Jianghuang-Curcuma longa Rz-Tumeric Sanqi-Notoginseng Rx Tianhuafen-Trichosa nthis Rx Tiannanxing- Arisaematis Rz Yanhusuo-Corydalis 8/9 had Hujiaosu-Capsicain 7/9 had CAOWU-Aconiti kusnezoffii Rx 3/9 had Danggui- Chinese Angelica Rx [women´s cream] 3/9 had Ruxiang-Boswellia [women´s cream] 3/9 had Duhuo-Angelica Pubescent Rx 3/9 had FANGJI (Feng)-Rx Stepjaniae tetrandae 2/9 had Guizhi-Cinnamon Twig 2/9 had Haifengteng- Kadsura Pepper caulis DETAILS: Ashi Acute Pain cream (13 Hbs) men / women w pain~acute Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; Chenpi; Dahuang; Guizhi; Houpo; Huangbai; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain BM (15 Hbs) men w loin pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Duhuo; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain BW (17 Hbs) women w loin pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; Duhuo; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain LM (15 Hbs) men w knee / hip / ankle pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; FANGJI (Feng); Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain LW (17 Hbs) women w knee / hip / ankle pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; FANGJI (Feng); Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain Original (14 Hbs) chronic pain Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain UM (15 Hbs) men w neck / shoulder / elbow / wrist / carpal pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Haifengteng; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Pain UW (17 Hbs) women w neck / shoulder / elbow / wrist / carpal pain~ chronic Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; Haifengteng; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Ashi Patch (16 Hbs) use on Ashi Pts after acupuncture for pain relief; change every 1-2 days Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; Chenpi; Dahuang; Duhuo; FANGJI (Feng); Guizhi; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Hi Bob, Do you have a base formula that you work from? If so could you share it? Thanks Steve Chinese Medicine , " Bob Linde, AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist wrote: > > I have found that topical application of herbs can be very effective but just like with internal herbs it is vital that the diagnosis is acurate. It looks like from the formulas listed below you can see dampness, hot, cold ect....if used for proper presentation the results should be much better. Personally I make my own using poultices or linements/tinctures. I apply them directly to the problem or at times to acupuncture points such as Du 14. Happy new year > > Be well, > Bob > Robert Linde, AP, RH > Professional Herbalists Training Program > Acupuncture & Herbal Therapies > 901I  Central Ave > St. Petersburg, FL 33705 > www.acuherbals.com > 727-551-0857 > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, < wrote: > > > < > Re: Ah Shi Pain Creme > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:44 AM > > >  > > > > Hi Steve, & All, > > > Has anyone tried Ah Shi Pain Creme? If so what have been your results? > > I have been using it with patients, but not seeing the results quoted > > on their website. Steve > > I do not know that brand, but see http://ashi- research. com/product. html > > They have several different Ashi pain creams. A summary of the ingredients > is: > > Of 9 products listed, ALL (9/9) contained the following 12 Hbs: > Baizhi-Angelicae dahuricae Rx > Bohechuan-Menthol > Cangzhu-Black Atractylodis Rz > Chenpi-Tangerine Pc > Dahuang-Rhei Rx + Rz > Houpo-Magnolia Cx > Huangbai-Phellodend ri Cx > Jianghuang-Curcuma longa Rz-Tumeric > Sanqi-Notoginseng Rx > Tianhuafen-Trichosa nthis Rx > Tiannanxing- Arisaematis Rz > Yanhusuo-Corydalis > > 8/9 had Hujiaosu-Capsicain > 7/9 had CAOWU-Aconiti kusnezoffii Rx > 3/9 had Danggui- Chinese Angelica Rx [women´s cream] > 3/9 had Ruxiang-Boswellia [women´s cream] > 3/9 had Duhuo-Angelica Pubescent Rx > 3/9 had FANGJI (Feng)-Rx Stepjaniae tetrandae > 2/9 had Guizhi-Cinnamon Twig > 2/9 had Haifengteng- Kadsura Pepper caulis > > DETAILS: > Ashi Acute Pain cream (13 Hbs) > men / women w pain~acute > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; Chenpi; Dahuang; Guizhi; Houpo; Huangbai; > Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo > > Ashi Pain BM (15 Hbs) > men w loin pain~ chronic > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Duhuo; Houpo; > Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; > Yanhusuo > > Ashi Pain BW (17 Hbs) > women w loin pain~ chronic > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; Duhuo; > Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; > Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo > > Ashi Pain LM (15 Hbs) > men w knee / hip / ankle pain~ chronic > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; FANGJI (Feng); > Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; > Yanhusuo > > Ashi Pain LW (17 Hbs) > women w knee / hip / ankle pain~ chronic > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; > FANGJI (Feng); Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; > Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo > > Ashi Pain Original (14 Hbs) > chronic pain > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Houpo; > Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; > Yanhusuo > > Ashi Pain UM (15 Hbs) > men w neck / shoulder / elbow / wrist / carpal pain~ chronic > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Haifengteng; > Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; > Yanhusuo > > Ashi Pain UW (17 Hbs) > women w neck / shoulder / elbow / wrist / carpal pain~ chronic > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; CAOWU; Chenpi; Dahuang; Danggui; > Haifengteng; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Ruxiang; Sanqi; > Tianhuafen; Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo > > Ashi Patch (16 Hbs) > use on Ashi Pts after acupuncture for pain relief; change every 1-2 days > Baizhi; Bohechuan; Cangzhu; Chenpi; Dahuang; Duhuo; FANGJI (Feng); > Guizhi; Houpo; Huangbai; Hujiaosu; Jianghuang; Sanqi; Tianhuafen; > Tiannanxing; Yanhusuo > > Best regards, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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