storage issues for Wood Ear? (Bai/hei mu er)

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is anyone aware of any storage issues with wood ear (bai or hei mu er)? any

reasons it doesn't store well long term, or any special storage requirements

for it?

 

appreciate your imput on this issue.

 

kath

 

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kATH,

 

it does seem they will store fine so long as they are in a cool, dry place (like

most herbs should be stored).

 

 

 Joey Bedrosian LMBT (NC#3259)

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704-578-6245

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live long & love strong

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:43:03 PM

storage issues for Wood Ear? (Bai/hei mu er)

 

 

is anyone aware of any storage issues with wood ear (bai or hei mu er)? any

reasons it doesn't store well long term, or any special storage requirements

for it?

 

appreciate your imput on this issue.

 

kath

 

--

 

Oriental Medicine

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

http://acukath. blogspot. com/

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

Available at Asheville Center for :

www.FlyingDragonLin iment.com

 

Greenlife Grocery - Asheville, NC

 

and from the following supply companies:

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

https://www. kamwo.com/ shop/product. php?productid= 17442 & cat= 0 & page=1

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

http://www.goldenne edleonline. com/index. php?page= categories & category=

14 & vendor= & product= 5554 & pg=

 

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett@Acupunctu reAsheville. com

www.AcupunctureAshe ville.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

Joey Bedrosian wrote <<kATH, it does seem they will store fine so long as they

are in a cool, dry place (like most herbs should be stored).>>

 

I agree, cooler and dryer the better, especially since we are

dealing with a fungus.

Unfortunately however, not all distributors agree, especially

when selling food grade Bai Mu Er.

 

Just about every package of food grade wood ear that I've found,

is so heavily treated with sulfur dioxide, that the resulting color change

warrants calling the HUANG Mu Er! And their scent becomes

quite acrid and sharp (like vinegar).

 

The Chinese-Americans tell me to just soak and wash them to get rid of the

odor/color...which I've done, but am never truly satisfied with the results, as

I can still detect something of a rotten egg,

or sulfuric acid scent lingering. Point being, if this is bothersome

to some, pick your sources well.

 

On the other hand, I've had Bai Mu Er sweet " pudding " , prepared

from questionable sources, and the cooks were able to eliminate the

offensive odor/taste sulfur completely.

I just sort of think though, that if we energetically want a nice,

cool, Yin tonic, all the sulfurous agents should be minimized in

the storing/preservation process to begin with.

 

 

>

>

>  Joey Bedrosian LMBT (NC#3259)

> Advanced Massage Therapy

> 704-578-6245

> nrgcreator

>

>

> live long & love strong

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> " "

> PCOM Alumni <alumni

> Cc: TCM List <Chinese Traditional Medicine >

> Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:43:03 PM

> storage issues for Wood Ear? (Bai/hei mu er)

>

>  

> is anyone aware of any storage issues with wood ear (bai or hei mu er)? any

> reasons it doesn't store well long term, or any special storage requirements

> for it?

>

> appreciate your imput on this issue.

>

> kath

>

> --

>

> Oriental Medicine

> Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

>

> Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

> http://acukath. blogspot. com/

>

> Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

> Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

> Available at Asheville Center for :

> www.FlyingDragonLin iment.com

>

> Greenlife Grocery - Asheville, NC

>

> and from the following supply companies:

> Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

> https://www. kamwo.com/ shop/product. php?productid= 17442 & cat= 0 & page=1

>

> Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

> http://www.goldenne edleonline. com/index. php?page= categories & category=

14 & vendor= & product= 5554 & pg=

>

> Asheville Center For

> 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

> Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

> kbartlett@Acupunctu reAsheville. com

> www.AcupunctureAshe ville.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:27 PM, ariaksatri2 <aryaksatriyawrote:

 

>

>

On the other hand, I've had Bai Mu Er sweet " pudding "

 

curious about this wood ear pudding. do you have a general recipe?

 

kath

 

--

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

Oriental Medicine

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

http://acukath.blogspot.com/

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

Available at Asheville Center for :

www.FlyingDragonLiniment.com

 

Greenlife Grocery - Asheville, NC

 

and from the following supply companies:

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \

product=5554 & pg=

 

 

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett

www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

" wrote <<curious about this wood ear pudding. do you

have a general recipe?>>

 

Hmm...*somewhere* in set of notes, I think I do have a proper

recipe...I'll have to look.

However, I think it is really pretty simple. If I recall,

the woodears are soaked, washed, and cleaned, cut in halves of

quarters.

Then, they are slowly simmered in an amount of water that barely

covers them.

Once soft, rock sugar is added, and dissolved.

The product is then chilled, and served chilled.

The consistency is somewhat " slimy " , and looks like raw oysters;

the flavor is mild, slightly sweet, cool, and refreshing.

At the school I attended, the Chinese brought this to most all

parties and events. I gave thought to tweeking it a bit by adding a

little vanila.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

> kath

>

> --

> Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

> Oriental Medicine

> Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

>

> Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

> http://acukath.blogspot.com/

>

> Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

> Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

> Available at Asheville Center for :

> www.FlyingDragonLiniment.com

>

> Greenlife Grocery - Asheville, NC

>

> and from the following supply companies:

> Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

> https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1

>

> Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

>

http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \

product=5554 & pg=

>

>

> Asheville Center For

> 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

> Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

> kbartlett

> www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

sounds interesting. about how long do you simmer it for?

 

kath

 

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:13 PM, ariaksatri2 <aryaksatriyawrote:

 

>

>

>

> " wrote <<curious about this wood ear pudding. do you

> have a general recipe?>>

>

> Hmm...*somewhere* in set of notes, I think I do have a proper

> recipe...I'll have to look.

> However, I think it is really pretty simple. If I recall,

> the woodears are soaked, washed, and cleaned, cut in halves of

> quarters.

> Then, they are slowly simmered in an amount of water that barely

> covers them.

> Once soft, rock sugar is added, and dissolved.

> The product is then chilled, and served chilled.

> The consistency is somewhat " slimy " , and looks like raw oysters;

> the flavor is mild, slightly sweet, cool, and refreshing.

> At the school I attended, the Chinese brought this to most all

> parties and events. I gave thought to tweeking it a bit by adding a

> little vanila.

>

> >

> > kath

> >

> > --

> >

> > Oriental Medicine

> > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

> >

> > Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

> > http://acukath.blogspot.com/

> >

> > Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

> > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

> > Available at Asheville Center for :

> > www.FlyingDragonLiniment.com

> >

> > Greenlife Grocery - Asheville, NC

> >

> > and from the following supply companies:

> > Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

> > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1

> >

> > Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

> >

>

http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \

product=5554 & pg=

> >

> >

> > Asheville Center For

> > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

> > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

> > kbartlett

> > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

" " wrote <<sounds interesting. about how long do you

simmer it for?>>

 

Like I said, I don't have the actual recipe in front of me, and

even if I did, I don't recall ever hearing about a cooking " time " .

No, instead of " time " , I think the judgment criteria is done more

per resultant texture.

 

In the various batches I've tasted, the woodears are neither soft nor hard.

When initially biting into them, they feel " cooked " , but have enough resistance

to suggest that they are an independent ingrediant

in the recipe. The initial dental feeling is soft, then met with a

slight rubbery texture, which lastly dissolves a harmonious mixture

of the fungus, sugar, and coolness.

In my experience, getting to that point requires between 20 to

30 minutes of simmering--that is how I've replicated the flavor and

texture...there might be other ways.

 

Honestly, I doubt that one could overcook them (unless burnt).

The " pudding " is supposed to have a Yin feel about it, and wide

parameters exist. If it gets scorched, you'll realize that, and

the Yin is gone--as long as the mass is juicy and sweet, I'd

maintain the result is on target. If it is too watery, common

sense would suggest that too. In that case, add a little more

rock sugar, and a dash of arrow root (or corn starch), to thicken

things to the desired consistency.

 

 

 

 

 

>

> kath

>

> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:13 PM, ariaksatri2 <aryaksatriyawrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > " wrote <<curious about this wood ear pudding. do you

> > have a general recipe?>>

> >

> > Hmm...*somewhere* in set of notes, I think I do have a proper

> > recipe...I'll have to look.

> > However, I think it is really pretty simple. If I recall,

> > the woodears are soaked, washed, and cleaned, cut in halves of

> > quarters.

> > Then, they are slowly simmered in an amount of water that barely

> > covers them.

> > Once soft, rock sugar is added, and dissolved.

> > The product is then chilled, and served chilled.

> > The consistency is somewhat " slimy " , and looks like raw oysters;

> > the flavor is mild, slightly sweet, cool, and refreshing.

> > At the school I attended, the Chinese brought this to most all

> > parties and events. I gave thought to tweeking it a bit by adding a

> > little vanila.

> >

> > >

> > > kath

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> > > Oriental Medicine

> > > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

> > >

> > > Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

> > > http://acukath.blogspot.com/

> > >

> > > Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

> > > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

> > > Available at Asheville Center for :

> > > www.FlyingDragonLiniment.com

> > >

> > > Greenlife Grocery - Asheville, NC

> > >

> > > and from the following supply companies:

> > > Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

> > > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1

> > >

> > > Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

> > >

> >

http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \

product=5554 & pg=

> > >

> > >

> > > Asheville Center For

> > > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

> > > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

> > > kbartlett@

> > > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

> > >

> > >

> > >