Guest guest Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 You wrote: " the weight gain is a symptom of the disorder and not a cause. " That's the true problem. Or, better, problems' measurement is made in pounds/kilograms. Parents, relatives, husbands/wives and sons/daughters mostly are the first cause. This is Medicine. Thus the Qi stasis, therefore the blood stasis and cysts and masses and so on. Often these patients only need to be listened. We all are " psychologists " , too; just beside acupoints or herbal prescription, very useful, of course, but sometimes not enough, because we're not paying enough attention. So, solving a Bao Mai and a Dai Mai syndrom, as in the case you wrote, treating Liver/Gall Bladder, enhancing the Qi and the Yang of Kidneys, are not only the complete treatment. Practice would involve also some " cuddles " , not only in a physical way. Many thanks, Sharon. Hi to all, _____ Da: Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine Per conto di sharon weizenbaum Inviato: martedì 22 settembre 2009 19.32 A: Chinese Medicine Oggetto: Re:PCOS - weight loss Hello, I've treated PCOS and have found that there is a lot of misinformation regarding it out there. Probably the major misunderstanding results from the name including the word " cysts " in it. Actually these are not cysts at all - they are incomplete, unruptured follicles (follicles that never fully developed or ovulated) Cysts are fluid filled and these are not. There are many western practitioners who would like to change the name of PCOS to something that does not include the word " cyst " and takes into account that the lack of ovulation is part of a much more serious systemic metabolic disorder in most cases. I think one idea was to call it " hyperandrongenic syndrome " . The idea that these are cysts combined with the tendency for people who are diagnosed with PCOS to gain weight has caused many practitioners to implicate phlegm as a major disease factor. In addition the lack of consistent ovulation has caused many practitioners to implicate kidney yang deficiency or kidney deficiency as a root issue. Many texts such as Giovanni's gyn text and Jane Lyttleton's fertility text focus their discussion of PCOS around these two factors. Many western doctors are as confused about this as we are and incorrectly diagnose their patients. Women with many real cysts are diagnosed with PCOS but this is not the " syndrome " in which there are unruptured follicles. They may come in and tell you that they have PCOS but they don't. So, first off, with patients you need to determine if they are having lots of cysts (polycysts) or unruptured follicles (PCOS). Secondly, the entire metabolic state must be taken into account and this should not be viewed merely as a gynecological problem. These patients are often at high risk for type 2 diabetes, hypertension, heart disease and metabolic syndrome. If they do become pregnant without the underlying condition being looked after, the baby has many risks as well. Many clinics simply try to get the woman to ovulate and get her pregnant as the main goal. Just as clomid can very much worsen the metabolic disorder in these women, intensively boosting the Kidney Yang with herbs such as Yin Yang Huo, Ba Ji Tian, Tu Si Zi etc. can cause problems too. Thirdly, in my experience, most often the diagnosis is related to stasis and more excess presentations. I've not seen phlegm be the main issue ever when I really look into it. With weight gain in general, it is actually rare that phlegm damp is the main issue in terms of treatments that really work but this is particularly true with PCOS. It is very important that these patients are not told that their condition will get better if they would just loose weight. Not only is it virtually impossible to loose weight simply through diet and exercise for those with this disorder, the weight gain is a symptom of the disorder and not a cause. With appropriate treatment their entire condition will improve. I have more information about my own approach to this disorder. If anyone is interested you can contact me off line and I can direct you to this. hope this helps, Sharon Sharon Weizenbaum 86 Henry Street Amherst, MA 01002 www.whitepinehealingarts.com sweiz <sweiz%40rcn.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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