Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Hi, My eldest son has asked me for help. He has a photographic memory and is very intelligent, (He was invited to join MENSA at the age of 8..) He finds it very difficult to sleep, as his mind keeps busy going over things all the time. He often gets only a few hours sleep a night , and it is not enough. He is feeling constantly exhausted. He practises yoga, and although it calms him, it does not help. Like many young adults he has tried drugs and found that when he had a smoke his mind slowed down, but this is not what he wants to do. He is very active and spends a lot of time in the bush, as he is making conservation his career, so it is not for lack of exercise. He tells me that he can be physically exhausted, but his mind is racing and he cannot sleep. ( He is not the best house guest to have, believe me!) I know that frankincense is known to slow the mind, but wondered if anyone had any tried and true blends that could be recommended Regards Jeanine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 hey Jeanine, I'd recommend a little lavender and the following. It's a great mind exercise when trying to sleep, it helps to focus the mind and stop the racing thoughts... ask me how I know. ;-) Lie in a comfortable postion in your bed. And count. only up to 5 (I go up to ten and then back down again, but that's me). You focus on the numbers. Draw the number one in your head, do it slowly and color it. Draw number two in your head, make it fancy or make it plain, again color it but with a different color, so on and so forth. The trick is to remember the color. Then when you hit five (or 10. I find 10 helps a lot to focus the mind on only the numbers) you go back down. but this time you draw the numbers in your head backwards. IN other words, you start drawing the number where you ended drawing it in the first go round. In other words... just to make it super clear, when drawing the number five, one always starts a the top of the number but when drawing it in reverse, one starts at the end of the loop. So you're reverse drawing your numbers and you have to remember the color you drew it with the first time. And the real trick is, when the thoughts come crowding in, he has to learn to push them away and concentrate on just the numbers. Did him make the five fancy or plain. Did he color it blue or green? You'll be surprised at how something this simple can help a person fall asleep. But he's got to learn to push the thoughts away and focus only on the numbers. It's hard at first, but after awhile it gets easier. I hope this helps a bit. Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The PurrfinickyQueen http://www.fatcatcandleco.com Candles, Kitty Carpets, articles, practically everything but the Hairball! > [Original Message] > David and Jeanine Moss <dhm.jac > > 10/21/2004 1:02:31 PM > My Boy > > > Hi, > My eldest son has asked me for help. He has a photographic memory and is very intelligent, (He was invited to join MENSA at the age of 8..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Jeanine, There is an native American herb that does just beautifully for that type of sleeping problem. But that does not do you any good.. I would go with the old standbys, lavender and chamomille.. Also make him a sleeping pillow with lavender, chamomille and Saint John's wort.. C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 " David and Jeanine Moss " wrote: > Hi, > My eldest son has asked me for help. He has a photographic memory and is very intelligent, (He was invited to join MENSA at the age of 8..) My first questions are these: does he drink coffee or pop during or throughout the day (tea also). Caffein can **really** contribute to that! Find out if he does and have him quit ALL of it. Next, has he had his thyroid checked? When I was over-active thyroid (hyperthyroid) this happened to me all the time. I was physically exhausted, but my mind would race and race! And then, above all, treat all holistically if possible. If his thyroid is a factor then I do have some suggestions on where to look for naturopaths/chiropractors and other doctors (like my doctor -Dr Mercola @ www.mercola.com for more info. HTH! Andrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 I have done something like this for my husband who is like you described. I make him lie on his back. Then starting on the toes and working up I make him tighten each individual muscle as tight as he can. He has to focus on each muscle and picture it- driving any other thoughts out of his mind. Every muscle, individually, needs to be tightened and held until it starts to hurt a little and then relaxed completely. Then when you have done all the muscles (and I mean every one) then do the same thing only start at the head. Not only relaxes the mind but relaxes the body. Tight body is a by-product of a tight mind. Works wonders for my husband. Karen J Kathleen Petrides [PurrfinickyQueen] Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:19 AM RE: My Boy hey Jeanine, I'd recommend a little lavender and the following. It's a great mind exercise when trying to sleep, it helps to focus the mind and stop the racing thoughts... ask me how I know. ;-) Lie in a comfortable postion in your bed. And count. only up to 5 (I go up to ten and then back down again, but that's me). You focus on the numbers. Draw the number one in your head, do it slowly and color it. Draw number two in your head, make it fancy or make it plain, again color it but with a different color, so on and so forth. The trick is to remember the color. Then when you hit five (or 10. I find 10 helps a lot to focus the mind on only the numbers) you go back down. but this time you draw the numbers in your head backwards. IN other words, you start drawing the number where you ended drawing it in the first go round. In other words... just to make it super clear, when drawing the number five, one always starts a the top of the number but when drawing it in reverse, one starts at the end of the loop. So you're reverse drawing your numbers and you have to remember the color you drew it with the first time. And the real trick is, when the thoughts come crowding in, he has to learn to push them away and concentrate on just the numbers. Did him make the five fancy or plain. Did he color it blue or green? You'll be surprised at how something this simple can help a person fall asleep. But he's got to learn to push the thoughts away and focus only on the numbers. It's hard at first, but after awhile it gets easier. I hope this helps a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Two of my friends have boys w/ Aspberger's syndrome. This is different from what you are asking about I know. Aspberger is a spectrum disorder and one of it's most common characteristics is brilliance and a need for routines. One boy's brilliance is particularly high in math. The other in history. Both of them must go through unwind methods that are completely different from those which most of us folks are taught. Instead of going through a slowing down of the brain they need to sort and put away everything they have absorbed throughout the day. In a very basic form it is experienced by many infants - ever had a baby that goes through a " witching " (apologies to all) hour every night? My first son and my second daughter both did this. Every night they literally cried and hiccuped themselves unconscious for about 30-45 minutes. Too often well meaning folk will tell you that you have a colicky baby. You do not. You have a baby that is displaying their intelligence - soaking up EVERYTHING they experienced that day. They just don't have the capacity to go from on to slow to off yet. These two boys may never have that capacity. Their intelligence amazes me. One got into a very long and thorough discussion with me about the history of the warlords of China. They are 9 years old. So, here is what their mothers relayed to me is what their boys do to 'wind down' for sleep. The math wiz does algebraic and sometimes trigonometry problems for about 30 minutes. It is the methodical process of solving the 'problem' and putting it away literally because it has been solved that starts 'closing' all the tangental thoughts. For the other, he sometimes puts historical events in order spanning a century. It is the process of having a start and finish that quiets his mind. Your son must have a zillion threads that he could pick up and follow with his thoughts forever as these boys could. It's my thought that perhaps he needs to find a way to tie loose threads in the same manner these other boys need to in order to quiet his mind for sleep. Perhaps he can find similar mind work as above to help. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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