Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Dear colleagues, I was asked to give references and influences for my decision. Here's my response: " Remember, this goes back 25 years, but I'll give you some resources that I have and can think of: 1. One of my greatest influences has been Dr. Robert Mendelsohn. Bob was a wonderful, dynamic pediatrician from Chicago who called himself " The medical heretic " and " The people's doctor, " He wrote extensively in favor of educating and empowering the public against the smear tactics of the medical hierarchy. He was a university professor, chairman of the Medical Licensure Committee for the state of Illinois, and a brilliant, quick-witted scholar, who was COMPLETELY on the side of the patient. Bob wrote at least 4 books that I know of: " Confessions of a Medical Heretic " , " MALePRACTICE, How Doctors Manipulate Women, " " How To Raise a Healthy Child (in Spite of Your Doctor), " and " But Doctor, About That Shot: The Risks of Immunization and How to Avoid Them. " Here are some notable quotes of his: _________________________ 2. I have somewhere, a very well written 25 page pamphlet by Robert Moskowitz, MD entitled:The Case Against Immunizations, which presents in a very scholarly and yet readable manner the bio-chemistry and physiology of the immune system, and how vaccinations affect it. 3. A Shot in the Dark, by Harris Coulter and Barbara Fisher. which specifically addresses the dangers of the pertusses vaccine. I have other books someone in bookshelves and/or closets, some good, and some of questionable value, but the internet has really opened things up, and if on is motivated, there is lots of objective information from which to slowly and thoughtfully come to a prudent decision. One last person I want to mention is our son's pediatrician, who was also a close friend of Dr. Mendelsohn, OBM, and an amazing, totally objective, high soul, Dr. Paul Fleiss. (Our son used to say, " It rhymes, Dr. Fleiss is nice! " ) Dr. Fleiss gave us lot of time and information, and was never pushy nor dogmatic. He left the decision totally to us. BTW, as far as I know, he still is in practice in Los Angeles. Yehuda L. Frischman, L.Ac, CST, SER --- On Thu, 4/23/09, joe crowley <imcrowley wrote: joe crowley <imcrowley Fw: Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?-r Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:34 PM Hi Yehuda, this was interesting. Do you have any books that you could point me to about vaccinations? Is there one that might be considered " the bible " when it comes to vaccinations? Thanks Joe --- On Thu, 4/23/09, wrote: Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?-r Chinese Medicine Thursday, April 23, 2009, 3:12 PM Sorry, my send button decided to send before I was ready: Here is the complete, edited version! www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com --- On Thu, 4/23/09, > wrote: > Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics? Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:04 PM Alon, I think that you are making a gross generalization, as do those who claim that all autoimmune diseases and diseases of civilization result from or have a relationship to vaccinations. It is a cost to benefit analysis that each parent needs to make in determining whether they want to take the risk of exposing their children to the toxins and potential trauma related to vaccinations. It is completely innapropriate to expose a small baby whose immune function is just beginning to develop to the very harsh constituents of vaccines. Once a child hits 5 years old, and is healthy, then the decision do vaccinate becomes an easier one. But the witchhunt that Western biomedical physicians, along with their stooges in government and the school systems have carried on against parents choosing not to vaccinate is criminal, as far as I am concerned. The studies showing that vaccines are not related to auto-immune function are flAwed and no more valid than saying that a particular herb or acupuncture point works or doesn't work to treat headaches or gout. For a study to be valid, ALL of the subjects need to have the same differential diagnosis, similar constitutions and preferably also be within the same age group. It isn't enough to have the studies just placebo controlled and double blind. Personally, neither my baby who is now 25 years old, nor my grandson who will be 1 next month have been vaccinated. Our choice, again, was based upon a cost to benefit ratio, and my intuition. Just the thought of injecting putrid proteins preserved with mercury into the vascular system makes me cringe. Again, as I have stated on more than one occasion. Pasteur, at the end of his life acknowledged that Bechamp was right: that it is the terrain and not the microbe which causes illness. That's my conclusion. I certainly don't have an agenda but encourage parents to make decisions in an unbiased and informed way, as much as possible. Most important: BEWARE OF HYPERBOLE AND SENSATIONALISM. Keep your cool and don't rush your decison. Rely on intuition and listen to your inner voice of wisdom. www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com --- On Thu, 4/23/09, alon marcus <alonmarcus@ wans. net> wrote: alon marcus <alonmarcus@ wans. net> Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics? Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:34 AM why is diabetes and most other disease we see today mentioned in chinese and other medical system way before vaccinations. Please vaccinations seem to be blamed way too often with such poor evidence 400 29th St. Suite 419 Oakland Ca 94609 www.integrativeheal thmedicine. com alonmarcus (AT) wans (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 My child has not been vaccinated. See the experience of Dr Jayne L Donegan here in the UK. A revelation and quite shocking. I urge people to download her booklet. In this country nearly every statistic quoted in the government's own advice can be shown to be misleading or false. Chinese Medicine , wrote: > > > > Dear colleagues, > > I was asked to give references and influences for my decision. Here's my response: > > > > " Remember, this goes back 25 years, but I'll give you some resources that I have and can think of: > > 1. One of my greatest influences has been Dr. Robert Mendelsohn. Bob was a wonderful, dynamic pediatrician from Chicago who called himself " The medical heretic " and " The people's doctor, " He wrote extensively in favor of educating and empowering the public against the smear tactics of the medical hierarchy. He was a university professor, chairman of the Medical Licensure Committee for the state of Illinois, and a brilliant, quick-witted scholar, who was COMPLETELY on the side of the patient. Bob wrote at least 4 books that I know of: > > " Confessions of a Medical Heretic " , > " MALePRACTICE, How Doctors Manipulate Women, " > " How To Raise a Healthy Child (in Spite of Your Doctor), " and > " But Doctor, About That Shot: The Risks of Immunization and How to Avoid Them. " > > Here are some notable quotes of his: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________ > > 2. I have somewhere, a very well written 25 page pamphlet by Robert Moskowitz, MD entitled:The Case Against Immunizations, which presents in a very scholarly and yet readable manner the bio-chemistry and physiology of the immune system, and how vaccinations affect it. > > 3. A Shot in the Dark, by Harris Coulter and Barbara Fisher. which specifically addresses the dangers of the pertusses vaccine. > > I have other books someone in bookshelves and/or closets, some good, and some of questionable value, but the internet has really opened things up, and if on is motivated, there is lots of objective information from which to slowly and thoughtfully come to a prudent decision. > > One last person I want to mention is our son's pediatrician, who was also a close friend of Dr. Mendelsohn, OBM, and an amazing, totally objective, high soul, Dr. Paul Fleiss. (Our son used to say, " It rhymes, Dr. Fleiss is nice! " ) Dr. Fleiss gave us lot of time and information, and was never pushy nor dogmatic. He left the decision totally to us. BTW, as far as I know, he still is in practice in Los Angeles. > > > > > Yehuda L. Frischman, > L.Ac, CST, SER > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, joe crowley <imcrowley wrote: > > > joe crowley <imcrowley > Fw: Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?-r > > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:34 PM > Hi Yehuda, this was interesting. > Do you have any books that you could point me to about vaccinations? > Is there one that might be considered " the bible " when it comes to vaccinations? > > Thanks > Joe > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, wrote: > > > > Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?-r > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 3:12 PM > > Sorry, my send button decided to send before I was ready: Here is the complete, edited version! > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, > wrote: > > > > Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics? > > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:04 PM > > Alon, > > I think that you are making a gross generalization, as do those who claim that all autoimmune diseases and diseases of civilization result from or have a relationship to vaccinations. It is a cost to benefit analysis that each parent needs to make in determining whether they want to take the risk of exposing their children to the toxins and potential trauma related to vaccinations. It is completely innapropriate to expose a small baby whose immune function is just beginning to develop to the very harsh constituents of vaccines. Once a child hits 5 years old, and is healthy, then the decision do vaccinate becomes an easier one. But the witchhunt that Western biomedical physicians, along with their stooges in government and the school systems have carried on against parents choosing not to vaccinate is criminal, as far as I am concerned. The studies showing that vaccines are not related to auto-immune function are flAwed and no more valid > than saying that a particular herb or acupuncture point works or doesn't work to treat headaches or gout. For a study to be valid, ALL of the subjects need to have the same differential diagnosis, similar constitutions and preferably also be within the same age group. It isn't enough to have the studies just placebo controlled and double blind. > > Personally, neither my baby who is now 25 years old, nor my grandson who will be 1 next month have been vaccinated. Our choice, again, was based upon a cost to benefit ratio, and my intuition. Just the thought of injecting putrid proteins preserved with mercury into the vascular system makes me cringe. Again, as I have stated on more than one occasion. Pasteur, at the end of his life acknowledged that Bechamp was right: that it is the terrain and not the microbe which causes illness. > > That's my conclusion. I certainly don't have an agenda but encourage parents to make decisions in an unbiased and informed way, as much as possible. Most important: BEWARE OF HYPERBOLE AND SENSATIONALISM. Keep your cool and don't rush your decison. Rely on intuition and listen to your inner voice of wisdom. > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, alon marcus <alonmarcus@ wans. net> wrote: > > alon marcus <alonmarcus@ wans. net> > Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics? > > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:34 AM > > why is diabetes and most other disease we see today mentioned in > chinese and other medical system way before vaccinations. Please > vaccinations seem to be blamed way too often with such poor evidence > > > > 400 29th St. Suite 419 > Oakland Ca 94609 > > > www.integrativeheal thmedicine. com > alonmarcus (AT) wans (DOT) net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 BRAVO, and now, the UK is looking to allow the vaccine makers the delgation to decide what vaccines are mandated for their countries children, ARE THEY CRAZY? Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology Chinese Medicine acugeorge Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:51:54 +0000 Re: Influences in our decision not to vaccinate My child has not been vaccinated. See the experience of Dr Jayne L Donegan here in the UK. A revelation and quite shocking. I urge people to download her booklet. In this country nearly every statistic quoted in the government's own advice can be shown to be misleading or false. Chinese Medicine , wrote: > > > > Dear colleagues, > > I was asked to give references and influences for my decision. Here's my response: > > > > " Remember, this goes back 25 years, but I'll give you some resources that I have and can think of: > > 1. One of my greatest influences has been Dr. Robert Mendelsohn. Bob was a wonderful, dynamic pediatrician from Chicago who called himself " The medical heretic " and " The people's doctor, " He wrote extensively in favor of educating and empowering the public against the smear tactics of the medical hierarchy. He was a university professor, chairman of the Medical Licensure Committee for the state of Illinois, and a brilliant, quick-witted scholar, who was COMPLETELY on the side of the patient. Bob wrote at least 4 books that I know of: > > " Confessions of a Medical Heretic " , > " MALePRACTICE, How Doctors Manipulate Women, " > " How To Raise a Healthy Child (in Spite of Your Doctor), " and > " But Doctor, About That Shot: The Risks of Immunization and How to Avoid Them. " > > Here are some notable quotes of his: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > 2. I have somewhere, a very well written 25 page pamphlet by Robert Moskowitz, MD entitled:The Case Against Immunizations, which presents in a very scholarly and yet readable manner the bio-chemistry and physiology of the immune system, and how vaccinations affect it. > > 3. A Shot in the Dark, by Harris Coulter and Barbara Fisher. which specifically addresses the dangers of the pertusses vaccine. > > I have other books someone in bookshelves and/or closets, some good, and some of questionable value, but the internet has really opened things up, and if on is motivated, there is lots of objective information from which to slowly and thoughtfully come to a prudent decision. > > One last person I want to mention is our son's pediatrician, who was also a close friend of Dr. Mendelsohn, OBM, and an amazing, totally objective, high soul, Dr. Paul Fleiss. (Our son used to say, " It rhymes, Dr. Fleiss is nice! " ) Dr. Fleiss gave us lot of time and information, and was never pushy nor dogmatic. He left the decision totally to us. BTW, as far as I know, he still is in practice in Los Angeles. > > > > > Yehuda L. Frischman, > L.Ac, CST, SER > > > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, joe crowley <imcrowley wrote: > > > joe crowley <imcrowley > Fw: Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?-r > > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:34 PM > Hi Yehuda, this was interesting. > Do you have any books that you could point me to about vaccinations? > Is there one that might be considered " the bible " when it comes to vaccinations? > > Thanks > Joe > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, wrote: > > > > Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?-r > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 3:12 PM > > Sorry, my send button decided to send before I was ready: Here is the complete, edited version! > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, > wrote: > > > > Re: Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics? > > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 12:04 PM > > Alon, > > I think that you are making a gross generalization, as do those who claim that all autoimmune diseases and diseases of civilization result from or have a relationship to vaccinations. It is a cost to benefit analysis that each parent needs to make in determining whether they want to take the risk of exposing their children to the toxins and potential trauma related to vaccinations. It is completely innapropriate to expose a small baby whose immune function is just beginning to develop to the very harsh constituents of vaccines. Once a child hits 5 years old, and is healthy, then the decision do vaccinate becomes an easier one. But the witchhunt that Western biomedical physicians, along with their stooges in government and the school systems have carried on against parents choosing not to vaccinate is criminal, as far as I am concerned. The studies showing that vaccines are not related to auto-immune function are flAwed and no more valid > than saying that a particular herb or acupuncture point works or doesn't work to treat headaches or gout. For a study to be valid, ALL of the subjects need to have the same differential diagnosis, similar constitutions and preferably also be within the same age group. It isn't enough to have the studies just placebo controlled and double blind. > > Personally, neither my baby who is now 25 years old, nor my grandson who will be 1 next month have been vaccinated. Our choice, again, was based upon a cost to benefit ratio, and my intuition. Just the thought of injecting putrid proteins preserved with mercury into the vascular system makes me cringe. Again, as I have stated on more than one occasion. Pasteur, at the end of his life acknowledged that Bechamp was right: that it is the terrain and not the microbe which causes illness. > > That's my conclusion. I certainly don't have an agenda but encourage parents to make decisions in an unbiased and informed way, as much as possible. Most important: BEWARE OF HYPERBOLE AND SENSATIONALISM. Keep your cool and don't rush your decison. Rely on intuition and listen to your inner voice of wisdom. > > > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net > www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com > > > > --- On Thu, 4/23/09, alon marcus <alonmarcus@ wans. net> wrote: > > alon marcus <alonmarcus@ wans. net> > Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics? > > Thursday, April 23, 2009, 11:34 AM > > why is diabetes and most other disease we see today mentioned in > chinese and other medical system way before vaccinations. Please > vaccinations seem to be blamed way too often with such poor evidence > > > > 400 29th St. Suite 419 > Oakland Ca 94609 > > > www.integrativeheal thmedicine. com > alonmarcus (AT) wans (DOT) net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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