sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

[Guest guest]

*Sweet Potatoes* look like the pancreas and actually balance the glycemic

index of diabetics.

 

can anyone verify this statement? i thought diabetes were not to eat any

root veg (high sugar content).

 

kath

 

 

 

 

 

> [image: ] A sliced Carrot looks like the human eye. The pupil, iris

> and radiating lines look just like the human eye... And YES, science now

> shows carrots greatly enhance blood flow to and function of the eyes.

> [image: ] A Tomato has four chambers and is red. The heart has four

> chambers and is red. All of the research shows tomatoes are loaded with

> lycopine and are indeed pure heart and blood food.

> [image: ] *Grapes* hang in a cluster that has the shape of the heart.

> Each grape looks like a blood cell and all of the research today shows

> grapes are also profound heart and blood vitalizing food.

> [image: ] A *Walnut looks like a little brain, a left and right

> hemisphere, upper cerebrums and lower cerebellums. Even the wrinkles or

> folds on the nut are just like the neo-cortex. We now know walnuts help

> develop more than three (3) dozen neuron-transmitters for brain function*

> .

> [image: ] Kidney Beans actually heal and help maintain kidney function

> and yes, they look exactly like the human kidneys.

> [image: ] *Celery, Bok Choy, Rhubarb and many more look just like bones.

> These foods specifically target bone strength. Bones are 23% sodium and

> these foods are 23% sodium. If you don't have enough sodium in your diet,

> the body pulls it from the bones, thus making them weak. These foods

> replenish the skeletal needs of the body.

> * [image: ] Avocadoes, Eggplant and Pears target the health and

> function of the womb and cervix of the female - they look just like these

> organs.. Today's research shows that when a woman eats one avocado a week,

> it balances hormones, sheds unwanted birth weight, and prevents cervical

> cancers. And how profound is this? It takes exactly nine (9) months to grow

> an avocado from blossom to ripened fruit. There are over 14,000 photolytic

> chemical constituents of nutrition in each one of these foods (modern

> science has only studied and named about 141 of them).

> [image: ] Figs are full of seeds and hang in twos when they grow. Figs

> increase the mobility of male sperm and increase the numbers of Sperm as

> well to overcome male sterility.

> [image: ] *Sweet Potatoes* look like the pancreas and actually balance

> the glycemic index of diabetics.

> [image: ] *Olives* assist the health and function of the ovaries

> [image: ] Oranges, Grapefruits, and other Citrus fruits look just like

> the mammary glands of the female and actually assist the health of the

> breasts and the movement of lymph in and out of the breasts.

> [image: ] *Onions* look like the body's cells. Today's research shows

> onions help clear waste materials from all of the body cells. They even

> produce tears which wash the epithelial layers of the eyes. A working

> companion, Garlic, also helps eliminate waste materials and dangerous free

> radicals from the body.

>

> <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=409 & lang=9>

>

>

>

> _____________

> Alumni mailing list

> Alumni

> http://mail.pacificcollege.edu/mailman/listinfo/alumni

>

>

 

 

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Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

http://acukath.blogspot.com/

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

Available at Asheville Center for :

www.FlyingDragonLiniment.com

 

and from the following supply companies:

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \

product=5554 & pg=

 

 

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett

www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

 

 

 

--

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

Oriental Medicine

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

http://acukath.blogspot.com/

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

Available at Asheville Center for :

www.FlyingDragonLiniment.com

 

and from the following supply companies:

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \

product=5554 & pg=

 

 

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett

www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Kath:

 

I'm probably not going to be helpful here, but let's see.

 

 

" can anyone verify this statement? i thought diabetes were not to eat any

root veg (high sugar content). "

 

Many diabetics don't follow their dietary requirements very well. That's the

first thing.

 

The second thing is that diabetics do not have to have foods that are low in

sugar (the only reason we're alive is because of oxygen and sugar). What

diabetics need to do is to stop their previous habits, which can range from

eating too many refined sugars / greasy food, eating too many cooling foods,

drinking diet pop like there's no tomorrow, drinking coffee non-stop, sexual

indulgence, not sleeping and having extreme stress and so on. As you can see

there are seeds for yin def, yang def, sp q def, liv heat and so on in the above

list.

 

If we follow the three burners development path (like that? development path?)

for Wasting / Thirsting syndrome, we find upper emaciation (heat in the Lu and

Ht), middle emaciation (heat in the St and Sp), lower emaciation (Def of K Yin

and/or Def K Qi, moving to Def K Yang).

 

As you can see, unless the sweet potato is *hot* in nature, it is not directly

contraindicated. I have it listed as neutral to warming, sweet, supplementing

the central burner, the qi and the blood. Any diabetic who shows signs of qi and

blood deficiency and weakness int he central burner, could easily have sweet

potato as part of a diet that addressed their other s & s.

 

Diabetics incorrectly concern themselves with their glycemic charts too much

and therefore generally end up in a position where they find the right dosage of

insulin and kind of stay there until they need to raise the dosage, and so on

and so forth. Branch treatment, right?

 

I've managed many cases of diabetes, and we don't do the glycemic index thing.

We balance their constitution AFTER *clearly* identifying how they have been

destroying themselves for however many years. We find the root, we start working

away at the root and we put them on a balanced CM diet. They are usually halving

their insulin dose within two months (and so on), and in other news we find that

their levels become stable, their low-sugar moments are very very mild, and that

they are experiencing global improvement.

 

Of course, if they are not willing to treat the root, I usually won't work with

them. It's difficult enough to get into a position of " treating the root " with a

willing person. Remember, these people are all confrotned with the choice of

seeing themselves (holy god no) or continuing some version of what they were

doing to begin with.

 

What? I can take insulin and not change? That's some pow'ful medicine! (Real

medicine, in fact)

 

Or

 

I will stop drinking cow milk and instead drink soy milk.

 

It's easy to miss the point, I guess.

 

Of course, this is all said with the understanding that the variance in blood

sugar levels for many diabetics are dangerous and changes need to be implemented

intelligently and collaboratively.

 

I hope that helped in some way.

 

Hugo

 

 

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

" "

TCM List <Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Sunday, 19 April, 2009 11:28:56

sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

 

 

 

*Sweet Potatoes* look like the pancreas and actually balance the glycemic

index of diabetics.

 

 

 

kath

 

> [image: ] A sliced Carrot looks like the human eye. The pupil, iris

> and radiating lines look just like the human eye... And YES, science now

> shows carrots greatly enhance blood flow to and function of the eyes.

> [image: ] A Tomato has four chambers and is red. The heart has four

> chambers and is red. All of the research shows tomatoes are loaded with

> lycopine and are indeed pure heart and blood food.

> [image: ] *Grapes* hang in a cluster that has the shape of the heart.

> Each grape looks like a blood cell and all of the research today shows

> grapes are also profound heart and blood vitalizing food.

> [image: ] A *Walnut looks like a little brain, a left and right

> hemisphere, upper cerebrums and lower cerebellums. Even the wrinkles or

> folds on the nut are just like the neo-cortex. We now know walnuts help

> develop more than three (3) dozen neuron-transmitters for brain function*

> .

> [image: ] Kidney Beans actually heal and help maintain kidney function

> and yes, they look exactly like the human kidneys.

> [image: ] *Celery, Bok Choy, Rhubarb and many more look just like bones.

> These foods specifically target bone strength. Bones are 23% sodium and

> these foods are 23% sodium. If you don't have enough sodium in your diet,

> the body pulls it from the bones, thus making them weak. These foods

> replenish the skeletal needs of the body.

> * [image: ] Avocadoes, Eggplant and Pears target the health and

> function of the womb and cervix of the female - they look just like these

> organs.. Today's research shows that when a woman eats one avocado a week,

> it balances hormones, sheds unwanted birth weight, and prevents cervical

> cancers. And how profound is this? It takes exactly nine (9) months to grow

> an avocado from blossom to ripened fruit. There are over 14,000 photolytic

> chemical constituents of nutrition in each one of these foods (modern

> science has only studied and named about 141 of them).

> [image: ] Figs are full of seeds and hang in twos when they grow. Figs

> increase the mobility of male sperm and increase the numbers of Sperm as

> well to overcome male sterility.

> [image: ] *Sweet Potatoes* look like the pancreas and actually balance

> the glycemic index of diabetics.

> [image: ] *Olives* assist the health and function of the ovaries

> [image: ] Oranges, Grapefruits, and other Citrus fruits look just like

> the mammary glands of the female and actually assist the health of the

> breasts and the movement of lymph in and out of the breasts.

> [image: ] *Onions* look like the body's cells. Today's research shows

> onions help clear waste materials from all of the body cells. They even

> produce tears which wash the epithelial layers of the eyes. A working

> companion, Garlic, also helps eliminate waste materials and dangerous free

> radicals from the body.

>

> <http://www.incredim ail.com/index. asp?id=409 & lang=9>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ ________

> Alumni mailing list

> Alumni@pacificcolle ge.edu

> http://mail. pacificcollege. edu/mailman/ listinfo/ alumni

>

>

 

--

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

Oriental Medicine

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

http://acukath. blogspot. com/

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

Available at Asheville Center for :

www.FlyingDragonLin iment.com

 

and from the following supply companies:

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

https://www. kamwo.com/ shop/product. php?productid= 17442 & cat= 0 & page=1

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

http://www.goldenne edleonline. com/index. php?page= categories & category=

14 & vendor= & product= 5554 & pg=

 

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett@Acupunctu reAsheville. com

www..AcupunctureAshe ville.com

 

--

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

Oriental Medicine

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

http://acukath. blogspot. com/

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

Available at Asheville Center for :

www.FlyingDragonLin iment.com

 

and from the following supply companies:

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

https://www. kamwo.com/ shop/product. php?productid= 17442 & cat= 0 & page=1

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

http://www.goldenne edleonline. com/index. php?page= categories & category=

14 & vendor= & product= 5554 & pg=

 

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett@Acupunctu reAsheville. com

www.AcupunctureAshe ville.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

hugo:

 

i appreciate your insights given here, and am encouraged by your success in

jumping off the glycemic index wheel. i am wondering, are you able to get

less advanced, compliant folks off meds, or do they generally end up in a

maintenance plan of cm and reduced meds?

 

k

 

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote:

 

>

>

> Hi Kath:

>

> I'm probably not going to be helpful here, but let's see.

>

>

> " can anyone verify this statement? i thought diabetes were not to eat any

> root veg (high sugar content). "

>

> Many diabetics don't follow their dietary requirements very well. That's

> the first thing.

>

> The second thing is that diabetics do not have to have foods that are low

> in sugar (the only reason we're alive is because of oxygen and sugar). What

> diabetics need to do is to stop their previous habits, which can range from

> eating too many refined sugars / greasy food, eating too many cooling foods,

> drinking diet pop like there's no tomorrow, drinking coffee non-stop, sexual

> indulgence, not sleeping and having extreme stress and so on. As you can see

> there are seeds for yin def, yang def, sp q def, liv heat and so on in the

> above list.

>

> If we follow the three burners development path (like that? development

> path?) for Wasting / Thirsting syndrome, we find upper emaciation (heat in

> the Lu and Ht), middle emaciation (heat in the St and Sp), lower emaciation

> (Def of K Yin and/or Def K Qi, moving to Def K Yang).

>

> As you can see, unless the sweet potato is *hot* in nature, it is not

> directly contraindicated. I have it listed as neutral to warming, sweet,

> supplementing the central burner, the qi and the blood. Any diabetic who

> shows signs of qi and blood deficiency and weakness int he central burner,

> could easily have sweet potato as part of a diet that addressed their other

> s & s.

>

> Diabetics incorrectly concern themselves with their glycemic charts too

> much and therefore generally end up in a position where they find the right

> dosage of insulin and kind of stay there until they need to raise the

> dosage, and so on and so forth. Branch treatment, right?

>

> I've managed many cases of diabetes, and we don't do the glycemic index

> thing. We balance their constitution AFTER *clearly* identifying how they

> have been destroying themselves for however many years. We find the root, we

> start working away at the root and we put them on a balanced CM diet. They

> are usually halving their insulin dose within two months (and so on), and in

> other news we find that their levels become stable, their low-sugar moments

> are very very mild, and that they are experiencing global improvement.

>

> Of course, if they are not willing to treat the root, I usually won't work

> with them. It's difficult enough to get into a position of " treating the

> root " with a willing person. Remember, these people are all confrotned with

> the choice of seeing themselves (holy god no) or continuing some version of

> what they were doing to begin with.

>

> What? I can take insulin and not change? That's some pow'ful medicine!

> (Real medicine, in fact)

>

> Or

>

> I will stop drinking cow milk and instead drink soy milk.

>

> It's easy to miss the point, I guess.

>

> Of course, this is all said with the understanding that the variance in

> blood sugar levels for many diabetics are dangerous and changes need to be

> implemented intelligently and collaboratively.

>

> I hope that helped in some way.

>

> Hugo

>

> ________________________________

> Hugo Ramiro

> http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

> http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

>

 

 

 

--

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

Oriental Medicine

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

http://acukath.blogspot.com/

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

Available at Asheville Center for :

www.FlyingDragonLiniment.com

 

and from the following supply companies:

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \

product=5554 & pg=

 

 

Asheville Center For

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

kbartlett

www.AcupunctureAsheville.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is the cross cultural 'theory of signatures', where an object (plant part)

resembling a human's anatomy, or part of it, is assumed to benefit that part by

ingesting it or keeping it close to their person.

sweet potato G.I.

http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/agcomm/magazine/winter07/diabetes.html

 

--- On Sun, 4/19/09, wrote:

 

 

sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

" TCM List " <Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Sunday, April 19, 2009, 11:28 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Sweet Potatoes* look like the pancreas and actually balance the glycemic

 

index of diabetics.

 

 

 

can anyone verify this statement? i thought diabetes were not to eat any

 

root veg (high sugar content).

 

 

 

kath

 

 

 

> [image: ] A sliced Carrot looks like the human eye. The pupil, iris

 

> and radiating lines look just like the human eye... And YES, science now

 

> shows carrots greatly enhance blood flow to and function of the eyes.

 

> [image: ] A Tomato has four chambers and is red. The heart has four

 

> chambers and is red. All of the research shows tomatoes are loaded with

 

> lycopine and are indeed pure heart and blood food.

 

> [image: ] *Grapes* hang in a cluster that has the shape of the heart.

 

> Each grape looks like a blood cell and all of the research today shows

 

> grapes are also profound heart and blood vitalizing food.

 

> [image: ] A *Walnut looks like a little brain, a left and right

 

> hemisphere, upper cerebrums and lower cerebellums. Even the wrinkles or

 

> folds on the nut are just like the neo-cortex. We now know walnuts help

 

> develop more than three (3) dozen neuron-transmitters for brain function*

 

> .

 

> [image: ] Kidney Beans actually heal and help maintain kidney function

 

> and yes, they look exactly like the human kidneys.

 

> [image: ] *Celery, Bok Choy, Rhubarb and many more look just like bones.

 

> These foods specifically target bone strength. Bones are 23% sodium and

 

> these foods are 23% sodium. If you don't have enough sodium in your diet,

 

> the body pulls it from the bones, thus making them weak. These foods

 

> replenish the skeletal needs of the body.

 

> * [image: ] Avocadoes, Eggplant and Pears target the health and

 

> function of the womb and cervix of the female - they look just like these

 

> organs.. Today's research shows that when a woman eats one avocado a week,

 

> it balances hormones, sheds unwanted birth weight, and prevents cervical

 

> cancers. And how profound is this? It takes exactly nine (9) months to grow

 

> an avocado from blossom to ripened fruit. There are over 14,000 photolytic

 

> chemical constituents of nutrition in each one of these foods (modern

 

> science has only studied and named about 141 of them).

 

> [image: ] Figs are full of seeds and hang in twos when they grow. Figs

 

> increase the mobility of male sperm and increase the numbers of Sperm as

 

> well to overcome male sterility.

 

> [image: ] *Sweet Potatoes* look like the pancreas and actually balance

 

> the glycemic index of diabetics.

 

> [image: ] *Olives* assist the health and function of the ovaries

 

> [image: ] Oranges, Grapefruits, and other Citrus fruits look just like

 

> the mammary glands of the female and actually assist the health of the

 

> breasts and the movement of lymph in and out of the breasts.

 

> [image: ] *Onions* look like the body's cells. Today's research shows

 

> onions help clear waste materials from all of the body cells. They even

 

> produce tears which wash the epithelial layers of the eyes. A working

 

> companion, Garlic, also helps eliminate waste materials and dangerous free

 

> radicals from the body.

 

>

 

> <http://www.incredim ail.com/index. asp?id=409 & lang=9>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ ________

 

> Alumni mailing list

 

> Alumni@pacificcolle ge.edu

 

> http://mail. pacificcollege. edu/mailman/ listinfo/ alumni

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

--

 

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

 

Oriental Medicine

 

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

 

 

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

 

http://acukath. blogspot. com/

 

 

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

 

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

 

Available at Asheville Center for :

 

www.FlyingDragonLin iment.com

 

 

 

and from the following supply companies:

 

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

 

https://www. kamwo.com/ shop/product. php?productid= 17442 & cat= 0 & page=1

 

 

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

 

http://www.goldenne edleonline. com/index. php?page= categories & category=

14 & vendor= & product= 5554 & pg=

 

 

 

Asheville Center For

 

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

 

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

 

kbartlett@Acupunctu reAsheville. com

 

www.AcupunctureAshe ville.com

 

 

 

--

 

Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA

 

Oriental Medicine

 

Experienced, Dedicated, Effective

 

 

 

Kath's Blog about , Healthy Living & Spirituality:

 

http://acukath. blogspot. com/

 

 

 

Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints

 

Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist

 

Available at Asheville Center for :

 

www.FlyingDragonLin iment.com

 

 

 

and from the following supply companies:

 

Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown

 

https://www. kamwo.com/ shop/product. php?productid= 17442 & cat= 0 & page=1

 

 

 

Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC

 

http://www.goldenne edleonline. com/index. php?page= categories & category=

14 & vendor= & product= 5554 & pg=

 

 

 

Asheville Center For

 

70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two

 

Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777

 

kbartlett@Acupunctu reAsheville. com

 

www.AcupunctureAshe ville.com

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Kath;

In my experience everyone is quite different and follows a very different path

in terms of what they can take, how far, and when.

Some people spend a while in a maintenance program using both CM and insulin,

and then, when they feel able, move forward again.

I am amazed at how much belief comes into play. It is likely that low

confidence plays an important part in whether a person is able to accept changes

in their health that are for the better at face value. Many will spend several

months in a type of denial, wondering if their diabetes is actually curable,

despite the masses of incoming evidence that they are personally aware of

(physical sensations, bloodwork, dosing changes).

Support is a main aspect of this process. If you yourself do not have

confidence you will lose a lot of people who would prefer to be sick *while

being under the care of people they perceive to be confident and authoritative*.

The mystery of healing without having a solid human guide is too much for many

people - control is lost, and anything could happen.

In my experience, even being " nice " and mindful of boundaries (not coming off

like an authoritative jerk) can be interpreted as " oh, clearly they're not

confident and they don't *really* know " . I find a certain amount of firmness,

coupled with a willingness to challenge the misunderstandings and fears that a

patient will present to us is essential.

As a last point, Zhang chronicles some of this interaction in " Transforming

Emotions with " . While the interactions seem gentle in the book,

it is worthwhile to understand that it is the same culture speaking to itself,

and that is not a luxury that we have. In any case, the point is made clearly in

the book, where not only was medicine of the heart-mind (xin yao) suggested for

treatment of diseases of the heart-mind (xin bing), and not only that the use of

" thought to dispel/change thought and [the] use [of] reason to

dissolve/transform emotions " was of the essence, but that the crucial point lay

in the hands of the patient:

 

" [Healing these illnesses] all depends on the patient's ability to transform

emotions and change personalities. "

 

Thanks,

Hugo

 

 

 

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

" "

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, 19 April, 2009 13:43:35

Re: sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

 

 

 

hugo:

 

i appreciate your insights given here, and am encouraged by your success in

jumping off the glycemic index wheel. i am wondering, are you able to get

less advanced, compliant folks off meds, or do they generally end up in a

maintenance plan of cm and reduced meds?

 

k

 

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Hugo Ramiro <subincor > wrote:

 

>

>

> Hi Kath:

>

> I'm probably not going to be helpful here, but let's see.

>

>

> " can anyone verify this statement? i thought diabetes were not to eat any

> root veg (high sugar content). "

>

> Many diabetics don't follow their dietary requirements very well. That's

> the first thing.

>

> The second thing is that diabetics do not have to have foods that are low

> in sugar (the only reason we're alive is because of oxygen and sugar). What

> diabetics need to do is to stop their previous habits, which can range from

> eating too many refined sugars / greasy food, eating too many cooling foods,

> drinking diet pop like there's no tomorrow, drinking coffee non-stop, sexual

> indulgence, not sleeping and having extreme stress and so on. As you can see

> there are seeds for yin def, yang def, sp q def, liv heat and so on in the

> above list.

>

> If we follow the three burners development path (like that? development

> path?) for Wasting / Thirsting syndrome, we find upper emaciation (heat in

> the Lu and Ht), middle emaciation (heat in the St and Sp), lower emaciation

> (Def of K Yin and/or Def K Qi, moving to Def K Yang).

>

> As you can see, unless the sweet potato is *hot* in nature, it is not

> directly contraindicated. I have it listed as neutral to warming, sweet,

> supplementing the central burner, the qi and the blood. Any diabetic who

> shows signs of qi and blood deficiency and weakness int he central burner,

> could easily have sweet potato as part of a diet that addressed their other

> s & s.

>

> Diabetics incorrectly concern themselves with their glycemic charts too

> much and therefore generally end up in a position where they find the right

> dosage of insulin and kind of stay there until they need to raise the

> dosage, and so on and so forth. Branch treatment, right?

>

> I've managed many cases of diabetes, and we don't do the glycemic index

> thing. We balance their constitution AFTER *clearly* identifying how they

> have been destroying themselves for however many years. We find the root, we

> start working away at the root and we put them on a balanced CM diet. They

> are usually halving their insulin dose within two months (and so on), and in

> other news we find that their levels become stable, their low-sugar moments

> are very very mild, and that they are experiencing global improvement.

>

> Of course, if they are not willing to treat the root, I usually won't work

> with them.. It's difficult enough to get into a position of " treating the

> root " with a willing person. Remember, these people are all confrotned with

> the choice of seeing themselves (holy god no) or continuing some version of

> what they were doing to begin with.

>

> What? I can take insulin and not change? That's some pow'ful medicine!

> (Real medicine, in fact)

>

> Or

>

> I will stop drinking cow milk and instead drink soy milk.

>

> It's easy to miss the point, I guess.

>

> Of course, this is all said with the understanding that the variance in

> blood sugar levels for many diabetics are dangerous and changes need to be

> implemented intelligently and collaboratively.

>

> I hope that helped in some way.

>

> Hugo

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Kath,

 

here is the definitive site which addresses glycemic index as well as the more

important, glycemic load: http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm.

 

David Mendoza reproduces a complete list of foods here courtesy of the author,

Professor Jennie Brand-Miller of the University of Sydney,  based upon a

table of foods published December 2008 in Diabetes Care.

 

Quoting from his site FYI:

 

  " The glycemic index (GI) is a numerical system of measuring how much of a rise

in circulating blood sugar a carbohydrate triggers–the higher the number, the

greater the blood sugar response. So a low GI food will cause a small rise,

while a high GI food will trigger a dramatic spike. A list of carbohydrates with

their glycemic values is shown below. A GI is 70 or more is high, a GI of 56 to

69 inclusive is medium, and a GI of 55 or less is low.

 

 

The glycemic load (GL) is a relatively new way to assess the impact of

carbohydrate consumption that takes the glycemic index into account, but gives a

fuller picture than does glycemic index alone. A GI value tells you only how

rapidly a particular carbohydrate turns into sugar. It doesn't tell you how much

of that carbohydrate is in a serving of a particular food. You need to know both

things to understand a food's effect on blood sugar. That is where glycemic load

comes in. The carbohydrate in watermelon, for example, has a high GI. But there

isn't a lot of it, so watermelon's glycemic load is relatively low. A GL of 20

or more is high, a GL of 11 to 19 inclusive is medium, and a GL of 10 or less is

low.

 

Foods that have a low GL almost always have a low GI. Foods with an intermediate

or high GL range from very low to very high GI.

 

 

  Both GI and GL are listed here. The GI is of foods based on the glucose

index–where glucose is set to equal 100. The other is the glycemic load, which

is the glycemic index divided by 100 multiplied by its available carbohydrate

content (i.e. carbohydrates minus fiber) in grams. (The " Serve size (g) " column

is the serving size in grams for calculating the glycemic load; for simplicity

of presentation I have left out an intermediate column that shows the available

carbohydrates in the stated serving sizes.) Take, watermelon as an example of

calculating glycemic load. Its glycemic index is pretty high, about 72.

According to the calculations by the people at the University of Sydney's Human

Nutrition Unit, in a serving of 120 grams it has 6 grams of available

carbohydrate per serving, so its glycemic load is pretty low, 72/100*6=4.32,

rounded to 4.

 

In terms of your specific question, Sweet potatoes are indeed different from

potatoes.(Actually,BTW,  what they sell in the markets as garnet or jewel

yams actually varieties of sweet potatoes):

 

Here is the comparison:  Glycemic Index              Glycemic

load

Sweet potatoes                 

61                                 17  (a

medium GL)

Baked russet potatoes       

85                                 26  (a high

GL)

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

All the best,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 4/19/09, wrote:

 

 

 

sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

" TCM List " <Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Sunday, April 19, 2009, 8:28 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Sweet Potatoes* look like the pancreas and actually balance the glycemic

index of diabetics.

 

can anyone verify this statement? i thought diabetes were not to eat any

root veg (high sugar content).

 

kath

 

> [image: ] A sliced Carrot looks like the human eye. The pupil, iris

> and radiating lines look just like the human eye... And YES, science now

> shows carrots greatly enhance blood flow to and function of the eyes.

> [image: ] A Tomato has four chambers and is red. The heart has four

> chambers and is red. All of the research shows tomatoes are loaded with

> lycopine and are indeed pure heart and blood food.

> [image: ] *Grapes* hang in a cluster that has the shape of the heart.

> Each grape looks like a blood cell and all of the research today shows

> grapes are also profound heart and blood vitalizing food.

> [image: ] A *Walnut looks like a little brain, a left and right

> hemisphere, upper cerebrums and lower cerebellums. Even the wrinkles or

> folds on the nut are just like the neo-cortex. We now know walnuts help

> develop more than three (3) dozen neuron-transmitters for brain function*

> .

> [image: ] Kidney Beans actually heal and help maintain kidney function

> and yes, they look exactly like the human kidneys.

> [image: ] *Celery, Bok Choy, Rhubarb and many more look just like bones.

> These foods specifically target bone strength. Bones are 23% sodium and

> these foods are 23% sodium. If you don't have enough sodium in your diet,

> the body pulls it from the bones, thus making them weak. These foods

> replenish the skeletal needs of the body.

> * [image: ] Avocadoes, Eggplant and Pears target the health and

> function of the womb and cervix of the female - they look just like these

> organs.. Today's research shows that when a woman eats one avocado a week,

> it balances hormones, sheds unwanted birth weight, and prevents cervical

> cancers. And how profound is this? It takes exactly nine (9) months to grow

> an avocado from blossom to ripened fruit. There are over 14,000 photolytic

> chemical constituents of nutrition in each one of these foods (modern

> science has only studied and named about 141 of them).

> [image: ] Figs are full of seeds and hang in twos when they grow. Figs

> increase the mobility of male sperm and increase the numbers of Sperm as

> well to overcome male sterility.

> [image: ] *Sweet Potatoes* look like the pancreas and actually balance

> the glycemic index of diabetics.

> [image: ] *Olives* assist the health and function of the ovaries

> [image: ] Oranges, Grapefruits, and other Citrus fruits look just like

> the mammary glands of the female and actually assist the health of the

> breasts and the movement of lymph in and out of the breasts.

> [image: ] *Onions* look like the body's cells. Today's research shows

> onions help clear waste materials from all of the body cells. They even

> produce tears which wash the epithelial layers of the eyes. A working

> companion, Garlic, also helps eliminate waste materials and dangerous free

> radicals from the body.

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

 

In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever increasing

number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you sentiments with an

important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb formulas, glucophage

(Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught my eye as a nutrition

and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the review papers that I

prepare for my students show that increased physical activity is the most potent

mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

 

I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC or

CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of the

hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to on this

point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing physical

activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of acupuncture and

herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of all extracellular

fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason Robertson's book on

applied channel theory. There was the general longevity practice 3-1-2 in which

the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 " legs. (^;

 

I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

http://www.cardiab.com/content/4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives to

Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep. Ultimately

you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is in the

morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The punch is

during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work growing and

repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for diabetics type

I and II.

 

Respectfully,

 

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

[Guest guest]

Emmanuel,

 

I  agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein and

good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has  in one's diet.  Also, it's interesting to

note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.  Barry Sears,

PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by 300 minutes of

walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week. 

 

Respectfully,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen wrote:

 

 

Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen

Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

Chinese Medicine

Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

 

In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever increasing

number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you sentiments with an

important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb formulas, glucophage

(Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught my eye as a nutrition and

physiology instructor that in the past decade, the review papers that I prepare

for my students show that increased physical activity is the most potent

mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

 

I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC or CA

to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of the

hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to on this

point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing physical

activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of acupuncture and

herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of all extracellular

fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason Robertson's book on

applied channel theory. There was the general longevity practice 3-1-2 in which

the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 " legs. (^;

 

I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at http://www.cardiab.

com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives to Metformin or needing to

increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and increased HGH during sleep for

increasing deep, restorative sleep. Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency.

In tai ji terms, the wind-up is in the morning when you do tai ji and take a

walk increasing the bmr. The punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic

pathways are hard at work growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is

part of the prize for diabetics type I and II.

 

Respectfully,

 

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

[Guest guest]

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

 

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

 

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

useful and of service we can be for them.

 

k

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, wrote:

 

>

>

> Emmanuel,

>

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>

> Respectfully,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen

<mrsegmen<mrsegmen%40comcast.net>>

> wrote:

>

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen <mrsegmen%40comcast.net>>

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> To:

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>

>

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

> legs. (^;

>

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

> diabetics type I and II.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you heard of that " 30 day raw food diet? " I've heard various things

from people, and it promotes raw foods, which I think would be

contraindicated in TCM. But some people swear by it. I have no personal

experience with it either way.

 

 

 

 

-

" "

<Chinese Medicine >

Monday, April 20, 2009 7:16 PM

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

>i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

> many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

> somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn-

> diabetes,

> in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more

> folks

> are interested in avoiding the drugs.

>

> right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

> resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

> fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

> obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

> she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

>

> it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the

> more

> useful and of service we can be for them.

>

> k

>

> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, yehuda frischman

> <wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Emmanuel,

>>

>> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that

>> the

>> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load),

>> protein

>> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

>> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

>> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved

>> by

>> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>>

>> Respectfully,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen

>> <mrsegmen<mrsegmen%40comcast.net>>

>> wrote:

>>

>> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen <mrsegmen%40comcast.net>>

>> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

>> To:

>>

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>

>> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>>

>>

>> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>>

>> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

>> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

>> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

>> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It

>> caught

>> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade,

>> the

>> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

>> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>>

>> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in

>> NC

>> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one

>> of

>> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to John

>> Kokko

>> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of

>> increasing

>> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

>> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow

>> of

>> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

>> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general

>> longevity

>> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

>> legs. (^;

>>

>> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

>> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

>> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr

>> and

>> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

>> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up

>> is

>> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

>> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

>> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize

>> for

>> diabetics type I and II.

>>

>> Respectfully,

>>

>> Emmanuel Segmen

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

yes. honey and cinammon too. move toward love.

 

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, wrote:

 

 

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

Chinese Medicine

Monday, April 20, 2009, 10:16 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm.

like

 

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

 

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

 

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

 

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

 

 

 

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

 

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

 

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

 

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

 

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

 

 

 

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

 

useful and of service we can be for them.

 

 

 

k

 

 

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, >wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

>

 

> Emmanuel,

 

>

 

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

 

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

 

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

 

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

 

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

 

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

 

>

 

> Respectfully,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast

..net>>

 

> wrote:

 

>

 

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

 

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

> <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

 

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

 

>

 

>

 

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

 

>

 

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

 

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

 

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

 

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

 

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

 

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

 

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

 

>

 

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

 

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

 

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

 

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

 

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

 

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

 

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

 

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

 

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

 

> legs. (^;

 

>

 

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

 

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

 

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

 

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

 

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

 

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

 

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

 

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

 

> diabetics type I and II.

 

>

 

> Respectfully,

 

>

 

> Emmanuel Segmen

 

>

 

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Merc,

 

Raw unprocessed foods (especially if organic)  can work therapeutically, quite

spectacularly in cases of repletion or excess, but  must only be until the

patient is in balance, and then stopped.  Otherwise the patient will develop

new vacuities.  Anyone who tells you otherwise, is just not being honest with

themselves or you.  We should never have an agenda to promote a TCM diet per se,

like a political party, but rather, must consider how we can help our patients,

friends and selves achieve balance.  We need to educate ourselves as to why

cooked foods promote wellness, asking questions in order to be able to be able

to answer to others when asked.    Many people are passionate zealots of vegan

diets, but even with appropriate sleep, and exercise, every vegan I have ever

met is either Yin, Yang, Qi or Blood vacuous.  There has never, in the history

of mankind, ever been a purely vegan society which lasted.  Without animal

products, one's Jing becomes depleted much faster.  I'll share with  you a

related anecdote from a patient of mine:  3-4 years ago, my patient came to my

home freaking out--her heart was pounding, her pulse was racing, her temples

were pounding, she was unable to sleep, she was sweating buckets, she had

frequent urination, and she was constipated. Her pulse was wiry, strong and

rapid and her tongue was red with a dry, thin yellow coating.  I gave her a

bottle of Long  Dan Xie gan wan , told her to take 8 pills TID for the next 3

days, and then without fail, call me!  She didn't call, but instead showed up

for her appointment 5 days later absolutely miserable.  I asked her if her heart

settled down, she said yes, was she still sweating? no, How was the headache

on her temples? gone!  Well, what was wrong?  She was freezing, and she now

had diarrhea.  What happened was that she did too much of a good thing and took

it too far.

IMO the same applies to raw foods.

 

Respectfully,   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum

wrote:

 

 

Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

Chinese Medicine

Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:56 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you heard of that " 30 day raw food diet? " I've heard various things

from people, and it promotes raw foods, which I think would be

contraindicated in TCM. But some people swear by it. I have no personal

experience with it either way.

 

-

" " <acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

<Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine >

Monday, April 20, 2009 7:16 PM

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

>i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

> many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

> somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn-

> diabetes,

> in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more

> folks

> are interested in avoiding the drugs.

>

> right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

> resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

> fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

> obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

> she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

>

> it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the

> more

> useful and of service we can be for them.

>

> k

>

> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, yehuda frischman

> < >wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Emmanuel,

>>

>> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that

>> the

>> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load),

>> protein

>> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

>> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

>> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved

>> by

>> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>>

>> Respectfully,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

>> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

>>

>>

>>

>> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen

>> <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

>> wrote:

>>

>> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

>> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

>> To:

>> Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine <Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine

%40. com>

>> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>>

>>

>> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>>

>> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

>> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

>> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

>> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It

>> caught

>> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade,

>> the

>> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

>> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>>

>> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in

>> NC

>> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one

>> of

>> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to John

>> Kokko

>> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of

>> increasing

>> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

>> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow

>> of

>> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

>> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general

>> longevity

>> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

>> legs. (^;

>>

>> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

>> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

>> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr

>> and

>> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

>> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up

>> is

>> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

>> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

>> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize

>> for

>> diabetics type I and II.

>>

>> Respectfully,

>>

>> Emmanuel Segmen

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

absolutely.  When I was in school, two of my professors, (both Chinese, BTW)

each independent of the other emphasized over and over that Type II diabetes is

a disease of civilization and is completely treatable with Acupuncture and

Chinese herbal medicine.  My experience bears that out.  But to completely

resolve it  the patient must also address diet, exercise, sleep, abuses and

stress.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, wrote:

 

 

 

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

Chinese Medicine

Monday, April 20, 2009, 7:16 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

 

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

 

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

useful and of service we can be for them.

 

k

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, >wrote:

 

>

>

> Emmanuel,

>

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>

> Respectfully,

>

>

>

>

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast

..net>>

> wrote:

>

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>

>

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

> legs. (^;

>

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

> diabetics type I and II.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, it is my experience, that most patients with type II diabetes are

intransigent and very difficult to treat due to their inability to modify their

lifestyles in a meaningful way.

 

Douglas

 

 

 

 

________________________________

 

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:54:26 AM

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

 

 

 

absolutely. When I was in school, two of my professors, (both Chinese, BTW)

each independent of the other emphasized over and over that Type II diabetes is

a disease of civilization and is completely treatable with Acupuncture and

Chinese herbal medicine. My experience bears that out. But to completely

resolve it the patient must also address diet, exercise, sleep, abuses and

stress.

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, <acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

<acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

Monday, April 20, 2009, 7:16 PM

 

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

 

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

 

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

useful and of service we can be for them.

 

k

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, >wrote:

 

>

>

> Emmanuel,

>

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>

> Respectfully,

>

>

>

>

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%

40comcast .net>>

> wrote:

>

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>

>

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

> legs. (^;

>

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

> diabetics type I and II.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Raw food diets can be appropriate if the pattern is appropriate, ie. heat in the

stomach. Once the pattern has changed, the diet must change.

Douglas

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:56:36 AM

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

 

 

 

Have you heard of that " 30 day raw food diet? " I've heard various things

from people, and it promotes raw foods, which I think would be

contraindicated in TCM. But some people swear by it. I have no personal

experience with it either way.

 

-

" " <acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

<Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine >

Monday, April 20, 2009 7:16 PM

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

>i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

> many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

> somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn-

> diabetes,

> in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more

> folks

> are interested in avoiding the drugs.

>

> right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

> resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

> fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

> obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

> she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

>

> it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the

> more

> useful and of service we can be for them.

>

> k

>

> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, yehuda frischman

> < >wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Emmanuel,

>>

>> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that

>> the

>> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load),

>> protein

>> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

>> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

>> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved

>> by

>> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>>

>> Respectfully,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

>> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

>>

>>

>>

>> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen

>> <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

>> wrote:

>>

>> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

>> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

>> To:

>> Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine <Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine

%40. com>

>> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>>

>>

>> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>>

>> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

>> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

>> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

>> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It

>> caught

>> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade,

>> the

>> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

>> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>>

>> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in

>> NC

>> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one

>> of

>> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to John

>> Kokko

>> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of

>> increasing

>> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

>> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow

>> of

>> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

>> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general

>> longevity

>> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

>> legs. (^;

>>

>> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

>> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

>> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr

>> and

>> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

>> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up

>> is

>> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

>> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

>> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize

>> for

>> diabetics type I and II.

>>

>> Respectfully,

>>

>> Emmanuel Segmen

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Emmanuel and All:

 

 Emmanuel, of course you're right, and it's silly for me to have left that out.

 

 As I say to a dear friend of mine who is a personal trainer, always eats out

(relatively good food though), had really poor sleeping habits until about 2

years ago, binges regularly and displays bad liv qi constraint and qi + blood

deficiency: " XXXXX, the exercise you do is your saving grace! " It really is

amazing how physical movement improves qi and blood flow, courses the channels

and balances the yin and yang of the body. I also love the physiological poetry

you provide us with, Emmanuel, on the physical dynamics of this process.

 

 Sometimes, however, I choose to focus on the diet because it is the more

radical change. " Exercise, yes of course that's important " , versus, " hot and

cold foods? That's really weird " , or " dinner for breakfast? I can't do that,

that's not breakfast, hahaha " . Hahaha, but your caloric intake in the mornings

wouldn't get a squirrel across the street.

 

 Excuse the sarcasm.

 

 I just started a morning QiGong / Exercise class now that the weather is warmer

here, though, in a final admission that movement/exercise has the capacity

to make us sane again.

 

 Thanks,

 

 Hugo

 

 

 

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen

Chinese Medicine

Monday, 20 April, 2009 18:29:33

Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

 

In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever increasing

number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you sentiments with an

important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb formulas, glucophage

(Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught my eye as a nutrition and

physiology instructor that in the past decade, the review papers that I prepare

for my students show that increased physical activity is the most potent

mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

 

I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC or CA

to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of the

hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to on this

point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing physical

activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of acupuncture and

herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of all extracellular

fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason Robertson's book on

applied channel theory. There was the general longevity practice 3-1-2 in which

the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 " legs. (^;

 

I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at http://www.cardiab.

com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives to Metformin or needing to

increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and increased HGH during sleep for

increasing deep, restorative sleep. Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency.

In tai ji terms, the wind-up is in the morning when you do tai ji and take a

walk increasing the bmr. The punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic

pathways are hard at work growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is

part of the prize for diabetics type I and II..

 

Respectfully,

 

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

[Guest guest]

Of course.  You can lead a horse to water....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Douglas Knapp <knappneedleman wrote:

 

 

Douglas Knapp <knappneedleman

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 5:54 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, it is my experience, that most patients with type II diabetes are

intransigent and very difficult to treat due to their inability to modify their

lifestyles in a meaningful way.

 

Douglas

 

____________ _________ _________ __

>

 

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:54:26 AM

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

absolutely. When I was in school, two of my professors, (both Chinese, BTW) each

independent of the other emphasized over and over that Type II diabetes is a

disease of civilization and is completely treatable with Acupuncture and Chinese

herbal medicine. My experience bears that out. But to completely resolve it the

patient must also address diet, exercise, sleep, abuses and stress.

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, <acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

<acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

Monday, April 20, 2009, 7:16 PM

 

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

 

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

 

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

useful and of service we can be for them.

 

k

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, >wrote:

 

>

>

> Emmanuel,

>

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>

> Respectfully,

>

>

>

>

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%

40comcast .net>>

> wrote:

>

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>

>

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

> legs. (^;

>

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

> diabetics type I and II.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Honey?

 

 

Traditional Oriental Medicine

Happy Hours in the CALM Center

635 S. 10th St.

Cottonwood, AZ  86326

(928) 274-1373

 

 

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, mystir <ykcul_ritsym wrote:

 

mystir <ykcul_ritsym

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

Chinese Medicine

Monday, April 20, 2009, 11:59 PM

 

yes. honey and cinammon too. move toward love.

 

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, wrote:

 

 

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

Chinese Medicine

Monday, April 20, 2009, 10:16 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

           

           

 

 

     

      i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. 

like

 

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

 

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

 

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid.  more and more folks

 

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

 

 

 

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

 

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

 

fibromyalgia and alopecia.  her main complain is pain.  obviously with the

 

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

 

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

 

 

 

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

 

useful and of service we can be for them.

 

 

 

k

 

 

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, >wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

>

 

> Emmanuel,

 

>

 

> I  agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

 

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

 

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has  in one's diet.  Also, it's

 

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

 

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

 

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

 

>

 

> Respectfully,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast

..net>>

 

> wrote:

 

>

 

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

 

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

> <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

 

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

 

>

 

>

 

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

 

>

 

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

 

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

 

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

 

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

 

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

 

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

 

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

 

>

 

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

 

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

 

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

 

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

 

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

 

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

 

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

 

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

 

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

 

> legs. (^;

 

>

 

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

 

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

 

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

 

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

 

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

 

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

 

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

 

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

 

> diabetics type I and II.

 

>

 

> Respectfully,

 

>

 

> Emmanuel Segmen

 

>

 

>

[Guest guest]

Yehuda wrote: " absolutely. When I was in school, two of my professors, (both

Chinese, BTW) each independent of the other emphasized over and over that Type

II diabetes is a disease of civilization and is completely treatable with

Acupuncture and Chinese herbal medicine. My experience bears that out. But to

completely resolve it the patient must also address diet, exercise, sleep,

abuses and stress. "

 

Yehuda,

 

I bow deeply to you. That indeed was my point, you stated it courageously and

better than I. The exercise is about joy, not about a measurable quantity.

When I was a kid (and that applies to now also), I could play for many hours and

feel refreshed if also quite hungry. At the same age, I could get completely

worn out by an hour of chores that I did not see as being fun. So quality

matters the most. I have a whole two semester course whose mission in part is

to make the points you noted above. That just barely is enough time to note the

highlights. Your single paragraph above is a good one. Thanks.

 

Respectfully and gratefully,

 

Emmanuel Segmen

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree. Raw foods are a powerful therapy for excess heat patterns. I was

able to completely clear a severe case of rheumatoid arthritis in myself over 30

years ago with a one-month raw juice diet. When employed as a lifestyle, though,

they can be very problematic for maintaining health. Skinny deficient types

don't do well on raw diets. Overweight excess types can experience profound

healing on them. Just like herbs, they are healing when indicated and create

imbalance when not indicated.

 

- Bill Schoenbart

 

 

Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman

< wrote:

>

> Dear Merc,

>  

> Raw unprocessed foods (especially if organic)  can work therapeutically, quite

spectacularly in cases of repletion or excess, but  must only be until the

patient is in balance, and then stopped.  Otherwise the patient will develop

new vacuities.  Anyone who tells you otherwise, is just not being honest with

themselves or you.  We should never have an agenda to promote a TCM diet per se,

like a political party, but rather, must consider how we can help our patients,

friends and selves achieve balance.  We need to educate ourselves as to why

cooked foods promote wellness, asking questions in order to be able to be able

to answer to others when asked.    Many people are passionate zealots of vegan

diets, but even with appropriate sleep, and exercise, every vegan I have ever

met is either Yin, Yang, Qi or Blood vacuous.  There has never, in the history

of mankind, ever been a purely vegan society which lasted.  Without animal

> products, one's Jing becomes depleted much faster.  I'll share with  you a

related anecdote from a patient of mine:  3-4 years ago, my patient came to my

home freaking out--her heart was pounding, her pulse was racing, her temples

were pounding, she was unable to sleep, she was sweating buckets, she had

frequent urination, and she was constipated. Her pulse was wiry, strong and

rapid and her tongue was red with a dry, thin yellow coating.  I gave her a

bottle of Long  Dan Xie gan wan , told her to take 8 pills TID for the next 3

days, and then without fail, call me!  She didn't call, but instead showed up

for her appointment 5 days later absolutely miserable.  I asked her if her heart

settled down, she said yes, was she still sweating? no, How was the headache

on her temples? gone!  Well, what was wrong?  She was freezing, and she now

had diarrhea.  What happened was that she did too much of a good thing and took

it too far.

> IMO the same applies to raw foods.

>  

> Respectfully,   

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>  

>

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum wrote:

>

>

> Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum

> Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> Chinese Medicine

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:56 PM

>

>

Have you heard of that " 30 day raw food diet? " I've heard various things

> from people, and it promotes raw foods, which I think would be

> contraindicated in TCM. But some people swear by it. I have no personal

> experience with it either way.

>

> -

> " " <acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> <Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine >

> Monday, April 20, 2009 7:16 PM

> Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

>

> >i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

> > many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

> > somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn-

> > diabetes,

> > in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more

> > folks

> > are interested in avoiding the drugs.

> >

> > right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

> > resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

> > fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

> > obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

> > she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

> >

> > it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the

> > more

> > useful and of service we can be for them.

> >

> > k

> >

> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, yehuda frischman

> > < >wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Emmanuel,

> >>

> >> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that

> >> the

> >> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load),

> >> protein

> >> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

> >> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

> >> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved

> >> by

> >> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

> >>

> >> Respectfully,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

> >> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen

> >> <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

> >> wrote:

> >>

> >> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

> >> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> >> To:

> >> Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

> >> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

> >>

> >> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

> >> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

> >> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

> >> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It

> >> caught

> >> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade,

> >> the

> >> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

> >> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

> >>

> >> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in

> >> NC

> >> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one

> >> of

> >> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to John

> >> Kokko

> >> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of

> >> increasing

> >> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

> >> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow

> >> of

> >> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

> >> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general

> >> longevity

> >> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

> >> legs. (^;

> >>

> >> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

> >> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

> >> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr

> >> and

> >> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

> >> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up

> >> is

> >> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

> >> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

> >> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize

> >> for

> >> diabetics type I and II.

> >>

> >> Respectfully,

> >>

> >> Emmanuel Segmen

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

I really think that you should not fail to address that they have known since

1949 and from the pertussis vaccine that vaccines cause autoimmune disease, they

are associated with dysregulation and disruption of the glucose metabolism. This

was something Dr. Harris Coulter testified in fron of Congress about in 1997,

and yet the vaccination into glucose dysregulation continues, the obesity rate

is rising, the children are getting this from many vaccines, Hep B, DtP and

others, now insulin resistence is also developing....tell me are ANY of the

diabetics you see NOT VACCINATED?

 

Once they are gentically mutated from the vaccines, there are different

therapies like stem cell to replace the swollen pancreas and T cells that have

been destroyed, the immune cells, the Islets of Langerhans are in the pancreas.

An entire cascade of metabolic events spews forth from the gentically mutating

disability that the vaccinated victims now must contend with and the lack of

will power, depression and an entire gamut of biochemical entrapment

occurs....so seriously, understand the pathology before you mark up the

difficulty the victim is encompassed by to a little more than lack of desire to

change lifestyle. Look at the work Claussen has done and also sad fact, this has

been growing into epidemic because no one is stopping the big harma agenda that

poisons the people in the first place.

 

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

acukath

Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:16:37 -0400

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

 

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

 

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

useful and of service we can be for them.

 

k

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, wrote:

 

>

>

> Emmanuel,

>

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>

> Respectfully,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen

<mrsegmen<mrsegmen%40comcast.net>>

> wrote:

>

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen <mrsegmen%40comcast.net>>

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> To:

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>

>

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

> legs. (^;

>

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

> diabetics type I and II.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patricia and all:

 

While I have no doubt whatsoever that vaccination is a tool that is currently

used in a dangerous fashion and that there are susceptible portions of the

population who sustain much damage from vaccination, I must take issue with this

statement:

 

--Patricia-

....so seriously, understand the pathology before you mark up the

difficulty the victim is encompassed by to a little more than lack of

desire to change lifestyle.

---

 

 

Then, how do you explain the high rate of success I have with people who have

diabetes? There is a certain amount of filtering that goes on in terms of my not

accepting people who are not there " mentally " , but, if what you are saying were

true, then I shoudl be experiencing a lot of trouble even with those who are

willing, which is not the case.

 

The fact of the matter is that self-destructiveness has been an issue for a

long long time - in fact, as soon as consciousness became self-aware,

self-destructiveness ensued. As much as it'd be more convenient to blame one

piece of medical therapeutics for the whole thing, there's too much data that

doesn't fit. Patricia, I find your statement facile, since " lack of desire to

change lifestyle " is the founding cause of disease as our tradition of CM tells

us. " Victims " are suspect. This doesn't excuse those who abuse power. In fact:

 

" enevolently dispositioned practitioners hoped that their own ability of

nourishing the life force could be duplicated by their fellow human beings.

However, since not everybody understood how the ancient philosophical wisdom

[Dao] could help in safeguarding their health, the way of nourishing life was

most often insufficient, and naturally many people did get sick. The

establishment of medicine and herbology, therefore, was originally designed as a

measure to bring the principles of philosophy [Dao] to those who were unable to

nourish their own life force. "

- Zhang XiChun, " On the Relationship between Medicine and Philosophy " , 1933

That said, various forms of intoxication, such as pollution or vaccination, do

have a big impact on our midle burner, which does so much to keep us clean

(tranforming and separating the turbid from the clear). I'm not surprised that

many people feel that the obesity epidemic is strongly related to poisons in the

environment from various sources (Baillie-Hamilton 2002).

Thanks,

Hugo

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

________________________________

Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic

traditional chinese med <Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Wednesday, 22 April, 2009 14:49:24

RE: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

I really think that you should not fail to address that they have known since

1949 and from the pertussis vaccine that vaccines cause autoimmune disease, they

are associated with dysregulation and disruption of the glucose metabolism. This

was something Dr. Harris Coulter testified in fron of Congress about in 1997,

and yet the vaccination into glucose dysregulation continues, the obesity rate

is rising, the children are getting this from many vaccines, Hep B, DtP and

others, now insulin resistence is also developing.. ..tell me are ANY of the

diabetics you see NOT VACCINATED?

Once they are gentically mutated from the vaccines, there are different

therapies like stem cell to replace the swollen pancreas and T cells that have

been destroyed, the immune cells, the Islets of Langerhans are in the pancreas.

An entire cascade of metabolic events spews forth from the gentically mutating

disability that the vaccinated victims now must contend with and the lack of

will power, depression and an entire gamut of biochemical entrapment

occurs....so seriously, understand the pathology before you mark up the

difficulty the victim is encompassed by to a little more than lack of desire to

change lifestyle. Look at the work Claussen has done and also sad fact, this has

been growing into epidemic because no one is stopping the big harma agenda that

poisons the people in the first place.

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com

Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:16:37 -0400

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

useful and of service we can be for them.

k

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, >wrote:

>

>

> Emmanuel,

>

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>

> Respectfully,

>

>

>

>

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast

..net>>

> wrote:

>

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>

>

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

> legs. (^;

>

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

> diabetics type I and II.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is not hard to explain the way you get success with the use of energetic

medicine modalities or that exercise would also work....I am just pointing the

pathway to damage, and the epidemic that has followed the use of the genetic

mutating of vaccines, the foods that are available, the lack of nutritional

education. I was astounded at the number of illnesses that are acutally

nutritional imbalances, and that the vaccines and drugs make their own little

biochemical disruptions happen that in effect produce the nutritional dis

ease.My father developed diabetes after receiving the rabies vaccines he was

already dis eased from the rounds of vaccines he took in the Marine Corps and

serving in Vietnam. I am so vaccinated, but finally it was the Hep B vaccine

that gave me insulin resistance and prior to this deluge of vaccinations, no

where was there a history in our family of these metabolic diseases. Thyroid is

autoimmune disease in alot of cases and the enzyme pathways that are corrupted

is such a destructive force for the patient to overcome. I have no doubt and

have spent most of my last 10 years of life becoming certified in many

modalities trying to identify the link to how dis ease is successfully

treated.....not in western medicine but from energy modalities and with optimal

nutrition.You could also be supporting your patients with an external voice that

doesn't feed the continued " its your fault and your lifestyle choices that

caused your dis ease " talk that I hear all of the time.

 

I was certainly hoping we would not only be limited to stem cell therapy to

treat the genetic damage conferred upon the vaccinated populations.The FDA

doesn't help with the crap they allow, both in food and drugs.What your success

proves and what I was starting to discover is that genetic transmuations and

mutations are not only fixable with optimal nutrition and things like exercise

but other manners of energetic medicine, food therapy makes sense......but none

of us should forget that the entire biochemical pathways that disrupt a patient

once these afflictions are injected into us are not our choice, or done with

understanding of how to then escape the prison.There are some with an entire

body system and immune system corrupted from vaccine damage, not the only place

to receive mercury poisoning, we can also get it from the high fructose corn

syrup that pervades the foods.......you should understand that one patients

biochemical nightmare is not everyones and it was conferred upon them, not of

there choice I am SURE>

 

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

subincor

Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:18:40 +0000

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Patricia and all:

 

While I have no doubt whatsoever that vaccination is a tool that is currently

used in a dangerous fashion and that there are susceptible portions of the

population who sustain much damage from vaccination, I must take issue with this

statement:

 

--Patricia-

....so seriously, understand the pathology before you mark up the

difficulty the victim is encompassed by to a little more than lack of

desire to change lifestyle.

---

 

Then, how do you explain the high rate of success I have with people who have

diabetes? There is a certain amount of filtering that goes on in terms of my not

accepting people who are not there " mentally " , but, if what you are saying were

true, then I shoudl be experiencing a lot of trouble even with those who are

willing, which is not the case.

 

The fact of the matter is that self-destructiveness has been an issue for a long

long time - in fact, as soon as consciousness became self-aware,

self-destructiveness ensued. As much as it'd be more convenient to blame one

piece of medical therapeutics for the whole thing, there's too much data that

doesn't fit. Patricia, I find your statement facile, since " lack of desire to

change lifestyle " is the founding cause of disease as our tradition of CM tells

us. " Victims " are suspect. This doesn't excuse those who abuse power. In fact:

 

" enevolently dispositioned practitioners hoped that their own ability of

nourishing the life force could be duplicated by their fellow human beings.

However, since not everybody understood how the ancient philosophical wisdom

[Dao] could help in safeguarding their health, the way of nourishing life was

most often insufficient, and naturally many people did get sick. The

establishment of medicine and herbology, therefore, was originally designed as a

measure to bring the principles of philosophy [Dao] to those who were unable to

nourish their own life force. "

- Zhang XiChun, " On the Relationship between Medicine and Philosophy " , 1933

That said, various forms of intoxication, such as pollution or vaccination, do

have a big impact on our midle burner, which does so much to keep us clean

(tranforming and separating the turbid from the clear). I'm not surprised that

many people feel that the obesity epidemic is strongly related to poisons in the

environment from various sources (Baillie-Hamilton 2002).

Thanks,

Hugo

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

________________________________

Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic

traditional chinese med <Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Wednesday, 22 April, 2009 14:49:24

RE: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

I really think that you should not fail to address that they have known since

1949 and from the pertussis vaccine that vaccines cause autoimmune disease, they

are associated with dysregulation and disruption of the glucose metabolism. This

was something Dr. Harris Coulter testified in fron of Congress about in 1997,

and yet the vaccination into glucose dysregulation continues, the obesity rate

is rising, the children are getting this from many vaccines, Hep B, DtP and

others, now insulin resistence is also developing.. ..tell me are ANY of the

diabetics you see NOT VACCINATED?

Once they are gentically mutated from the vaccines, there are different

therapies like stem cell to replace the swollen pancreas and T cells that have

been destroyed, the immune cells, the Islets of Langerhans are in the pancreas.

An entire cascade of metabolic events spews forth from the gentically mutating

disability that the vaccinated victims now must contend with and the lack of

will power, depression and an entire gamut of biochemical entrapment

occurs....so seriously, understand the pathology before you mark up the

difficulty the victim is encompassed by to a little more than lack of desire to

change lifestyle. Look at the work Claussen has done and also sad fact, this has

been growing into epidemic because no one is stopping the big harma agenda that

poisons the people in the first place.

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com

Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:16:37 -0400

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

useful and of service we can be for them.

k

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, >wrote:

>

>

> Emmanuel,

>

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

>

> Respectfully,

>

>

>

>

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast

..net>>

> wrote:

>

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

> <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

>

>

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

>

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

>

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

> legs. (^;

>

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

> diabetics type I and II.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

>

>

[Guest guest]

I appreciate people like you bringing up information like this again, because of

yhe complexity of our world, and the public has a short memory.

 

--- On Wed, 4/22/09, Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic wrote:

 

Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic

RE: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

" traditional chinese med " <Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 2:49 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really think that you should not fail to address that they have known since

1949 and from the pertussis vaccine that vaccines cause autoimmune disease, they

are associated with dysregulation and disruption of the glucose metabolism. This

was something Dr. Harris Coulter testified in fron of Congress about in 1997,

and yet the vaccination into glucose dysregulation continues, the obesity rate

is rising, the children are getting this from many vaccines, Hep B, DtP and

others, now insulin resistence is also developing.. ..tell me are ANY of the

diabetics you see NOT VACCINATED?

 

 

 

Once they are gentically mutated from the vaccines, there are different

therapies like stem cell to replace the swollen pancreas and T cells that have

been destroyed, the immune cells, the Islets of Langerhans are in the pancreas.

An entire cascade of metabolic events spews forth from the gentically mutating

disability that the vaccinated victims now must contend with and the lack of

will power, depression and an entire gamut of biochemical entrapment

occurs....so seriously, understand the pathology before you mark up the

difficulty the victim is encompassed by to a little more than lack of desire to

change lifestyle. Look at the work Claussen has done and also sad fact, this has

been growing into epidemic because no one is stopping the big harma agenda that

poisons the people in the first place.

 

 

 

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com

 

Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:16:37 -0400

 

Re: Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

 

 

i am appreciating this discussion on tx xue sugar disorders with tcm. like

 

many of you, lately i've been getting more and more folks coming in

 

somewhere in the continuim of insulin resistance - metabolic syn- diabetes,

 

in addition to high cholest, BP and often hypothyroid. more and more folks

 

are interested in avoiding the drugs.

 

 

 

right now i have just started a woman who went off metformin with insulin

 

resistance, high cholest (not taking statins to tx it), obesity,

 

fibromyalgia and alopecia. her main complain is pain. obviously with the

 

obesity issues, protecting her health has not been a priority for her, and

 

she's in denial about the blood sugar and cholest.

 

 

 

it seems like like the more ways we can find to support these folks the more

 

useful and of service we can be for them.

 

 

 

k

 

 

 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM, >wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

>

 

> Emmanuel,

 

>

 

> I agree with you, but don't underestimate the biochemical impact that the

 

> balance of good carbs (those with a low or moderate glycemic load), protein

 

> and good (non-arachidonic acid) fats has in one's diet. Also, it's

 

> interesting to note that with exercise, more is not necessarily better.

 

> Barry Sears, PhD points out that the maximum hormonal benefit is achieved by

 

> 300 minutes of walking per week--50 minutes 6 days a week.

 

>

 

> Respectfully,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

> www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net<mrsegmen%40comcast

..net>>

 

> wrote:

 

>

 

> Emmanuel Segmen <mrsegmen (AT) comcast (DOT) net <mrsegmen%40comcast .net>>

 

> Re:sweet potatoes balance glycemic index for diabetics?

 

> <Traditional_

Chinese_Medicine %40. com>

 

> Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

 

>

 

>

 

> Hi Kath, Hugo, Yehuda, Fran & All,

 

>

 

> In the clinic associated with my warehouse, Dr. Kang treats an ever

 

> increasing number of diabetic types I and II. His comments echo you

 

> sentiments with an important caveat. He notes that exercise trumps herb

 

> formulas, glucophage (Metphormin) and diet in many presentations. It caught

 

> my eye as a nutrition and physiology instructor that in the past decade, the

 

> review papers that I prepare for my students show that increased physical

 

> activity is the most potent mechanism in increasing insulin sensitivity.

 

>

 

> I know this orientation is preaching to the choir. Getting Americans in NC

 

> or CA to walk to work or to the store or just as a daily practice is one of

 

> the hardest aspects of patient care. I recall tipping my hat to

 

> on this point a short while back. This " endogenous " adjustment of increasing

 

> physical activity is of support to other more specific adjustments of

 

> acupuncture and herbal formulas because it causes an increase in the flow of

 

> all extracellular fluids. I recall that Dr. Wang references this in Jason

 

> Robertson's book on applied channel theory. There was the general longevity

 

> practice 3-1-2 in which the last practice was to get up and walk on " 2 "

 

> legs. (^;

 

>

 

> I keep referencing the Matrix Preloaded review paper at

 

> http://www.cardiab. com/content/ 4/1/9 to anyone looking for alternatives

 

> to Metformin or needing to increase daytime thyroxin for increased bmr and

 

> increased HGH during sleep for increasing deep, restorative sleep.

 

> Ultimately you have to treat Yin deficiency. In tai ji terms, the wind-up is

 

> in the morning when you do tai ji and take a walk increasing the bmr. The

 

> punch is during sleep when the biosynthetic pathways are hard at work

 

> growing and repairing tissues. Insulin sensitivity is part of the prize for

 

> diabetics type I and II.

 

>

 

> Respectfully,

 

>

 

> Emmanuel Segmen

 

>

 

>

[Guest guest]

What is the best way to prepare bitter melon? I have a number of

diabetic patients who can't get past the taste of it.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Anne Biris L.Ac.

The Lotus Center

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Apr 21, 2009, at 7:23 PM, " Emmanuel Segmen " <mrsegmen

wrote:

 

>

>

> Yehuda wrote: " absolutely. When I was in school, two of my

> professors, (both Chinese, BTW) each independent of the other

> emphasized over and over that Type II diabetes is a disease of

> civilization and is completely treatable with Acupuncture and

> Chinese herbal medicine. My experience bears that out. But to

> completely resolve it the patient must also address diet, exercise,

> sleep, abuses and stress. "

>

> Yehuda,

>

> I bow deeply to you. That indeed was my point, you stated it

> courageously and better than I. The exercise is about joy, not about

> a measurable quantity. When I was a kid (and that applies to now

> also), I could play for many hours and feel refreshed if also quite

> hungry. At the same age, I could get completely worn out by an hour

> of chores that I did not see as being fun. So quality matters the

> most. I have a whole two semester course whose mission in part is to

> make the points you noted above. That just barely is enough time to

> note the highlights. Your single paragraph above is a good one.

> Thanks.

>

> Respectfully and gratefully,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen

>

>