Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Posted December 9, 2008 I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used cuppping with no results, any ideas? Herbs? Thanks Steve Quote
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Posted December 9, 2008 I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I studied Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain disappeared. What was the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a week. So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same problem, in most of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck massage at least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some times 2 months, some times 6. Regards, Fernando Dougnac 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Posted December 9, 2008 What about Gua sha on her neck? If she likes pressure and heat and it's been 6 months, that could be instant results... another idea is something someone told me for neck pain which works... Gui zhi tea. 5 qian Gui zhi taken by itself. If you know Nagano's immune point, that one works like a gem for neck pain. It's around LI 10, between the LI and SJ channel... Do cross-fiber massage in that area ipsilateral to the neck pain. K. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Fernando Dougnac <fdowrote: > I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I > studied > Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain disappeared. What was > the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a week. > So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same problem, in most > of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck massage at > least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some times 2 > months, some times 6. > > Regards, > Fernando Dougnac > > 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 <snydez99%40>> > > > > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 > > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of > > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on > > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 > > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used > > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Posted December 9, 2008 HI Steve - I've used trigger point therapy followed by gua sha or cupping. Seems to only take a few treatments, even in cases of long standing. Karen Fernando Dougnac wrote: > I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I studied > Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain disappeared. > What was > the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a week. > So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same problem, in > most > of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck massage at > least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some times 2 > months, some times 6. > > Regards, > Fernando Dougnac > > 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 <snydez99%40>> > > > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 > > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of > > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on > > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 > > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used > > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Karen, Do you mean motor points ala Matt Callison or Travell? I have been using ah shi pts. I do agree gusha would be a good idea, patient is afraid of this due to a massage therapist who did this a long time ago without asking or explaining. Also, you are using needles not point injection, correct? thanks Steve Chinese Medicine , Karen Adams <kradams1 wrote: > > HI Steve - I've used trigger point therapy followed by gua sha or > cupping. Seems to only take a few treatments, even in cases of long > standing. > Karen > > > > Fernando Dougnac wrote: > > > I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I studied > > Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain disappeared. > > What was > > the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a week. > > So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same problem, in > > most > > of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck massage at > > least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some times 2 > > months, some times 6. > > > > Regards, > > Fernando Dougnac > > > > 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 <snydez99%40>> > > > > > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 > > > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of > > > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on > > > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 > > > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used > > > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > > > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Steve - Travell's trigger points. I've found cupping to be equally as effective, can raise some excellent sha. I mostly use sliding cupping after needling (no injections, shudder) and releasing the TP on the theory that there was a lot of energy tied up in holding that TP in the muscle. I don't want it hanging around so I'll disperse with cups or gua sha or a vigorous mommy massage (that's the only kind I know. I haven't received training in anything else!). Karen snydez99 wrote: > Hi Karen, > > Do you mean motor points ala Matt Callison or Travell? I have been > using ah shi pts. I do agree gusha would be a good idea, patient is > afraid of this due to a massage therapist who did this a long time > ago without asking or explaining. Also, you are using needles not > point injection, correct? > > thanks Steve > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40>, Karen Adams > <kradams1 wrote: > > > > HI Steve - I've used trigger point therapy followed by gua sha or > > cupping. Seems to only take a few treatments, even in cases of > long > > standing. > > Karen > > > > > > > > Fernando Dougnac wrote: > > > > > I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I > studied > > > Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain > disappeared. > > > What was > > > the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a > week. > > > So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same > problem, in > > > most > > > of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck > massage at > > > least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some > times 2 > > > months, some times 6. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Fernando Dougnac > > > > > > 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 <snydez99%40>> > > > > > > > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july > 2008 > > > > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the > end of > > > > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided > mainly on > > > > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done > about 6 > > > > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and > have used > > > > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > > > > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
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