Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used cuppping with no results, any ideas? Herbs? Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I studied Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain disappeared. What was the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a week. So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same problem, in most of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck massage at least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some times 2 months, some times 6. Regards, Fernando Dougnac 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 What about Gua sha on her neck? If she likes pressure and heat and it's been 6 months, that could be instant results... another idea is something someone told me for neck pain which works... Gui zhi tea. 5 qian Gui zhi taken by itself. If you know Nagano's immune point, that one works like a gem for neck pain. It's around LI 10, between the LI and SJ channel... Do cross-fiber massage in that area ipsilateral to the neck pain. K. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Fernando Dougnac <fdowrote: > I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I > studied > Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain disappeared. What was > the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a week. > So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same problem, in most > of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck massage at > least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some times 2 > months, some times 6. > > Regards, > Fernando Dougnac > > 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 <snydez99%40>> > > > > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 > > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of > > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on > > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 > > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used > > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 HI Steve - I've used trigger point therapy followed by gua sha or cupping. Seems to only take a few treatments, even in cases of long standing. Karen Fernando Dougnac wrote: > I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I studied > Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain disappeared. > What was > the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a week. > So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same problem, in > most > of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck massage at > least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some times 2 > months, some times 6. > > Regards, > Fernando Dougnac > > 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 <snydez99%40>> > > > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 > > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of > > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on > > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 > > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used > > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Karen, Do you mean motor points ala Matt Callison or Travell? I have been using ah shi pts. I do agree gusha would be a good idea, patient is afraid of this due to a massage therapist who did this a long time ago without asking or explaining. Also, you are using needles not point injection, correct? thanks Steve Chinese Medicine , Karen Adams <kradams1 wrote: > > HI Steve - I've used trigger point therapy followed by gua sha or > cupping. Seems to only take a few treatments, even in cases of long > standing. > Karen > > > > Fernando Dougnac wrote: > > > I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I studied > > Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain disappeared. > > What was > > the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a week. > > So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same problem, in > > most > > of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck massage at > > least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some times 2 > > months, some times 6. > > > > Regards, > > Fernando Dougnac > > > > 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 <snydez99%40>> > > > > > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july 2008 > > > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the end of > > > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided mainly on > > > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done about 6 > > > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and have used > > > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > > > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Steve - Travell's trigger points. I've found cupping to be equally as effective, can raise some excellent sha. I mostly use sliding cupping after needling (no injections, shudder) and releasing the TP on the theory that there was a lot of energy tied up in holding that TP in the muscle. I don't want it hanging around so I'll disperse with cups or gua sha or a vigorous mommy massage (that's the only kind I know. I haven't received training in anything else!). Karen snydez99 wrote: > Hi Karen, > > Do you mean motor points ala Matt Callison or Travell? I have been > using ah shi pts. I do agree gusha would be a good idea, patient is > afraid of this due to a massage therapist who did this a long time > ago without asking or explaining. Also, you are using needles not > point injection, correct? > > thanks Steve > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40>, Karen Adams > <kradams1 wrote: > > > > HI Steve - I've used trigger point therapy followed by gua sha or > > cupping. Seems to only take a few treatments, even in cases of > long > > standing. > > Karen > > > > > > > > Fernando Dougnac wrote: > > > > > I suffered neck pain by almost 8 years due a car accident. Then I > studied > > > Tui Na, and at the end of the course, 1 year, my pain > disappeared. > > > What was > > > the treatment? massages at neck, with pan fa, at least 1 time a > week. > > > So after that I have treated a lot of people with the same > problem, in > > > most > > > of cases with very good results. The treatment? the same, neck > massage at > > > least 1 time a week for so long as the patient feels better, some > times 2 > > > months, some times 6. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Fernando Dougnac > > > > > > 2008/12/8 snydez99 <snydez99 <snydez99%40>> > > > > > > > I have a 33 female patient who has had neck pain since a july > 2008 > > > > auto accident.Neck was fine before that. She has pain at the > end of > > > > range when looking down or to the left. Pain is left sided > mainly on > > > > Bl/SI & TH channels.Pressure & heat help somewhat. I have done > about 6 > > > > tx with local pts, some with electro, Th-3 with movement and > have used > > > > cuppping with no results, any ideas? > > > > Herbs? Thanks Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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