Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Has anyone out there used tuning forks? If so, what do you think? thanks, Jamie www.whartenby.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Run. -Jason Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Whartenby! Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:19 PM Chinese Medicine Acutonics Has anyone out there used tuning forks? If so, what do you think? thanks, Jamie www.whartenby.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Are they that scary? - Chinese Medicine Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:55 PM RE: Acutonics Run. -Jason Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Whartenby! Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:19 PM Chinese Medicine Acutonics Has anyone out there used tuning forks? If so, what do you think? thanks, Jamie www.whartenby.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jaimie- I know this question has been discussed on this list before. I've used them as a non-invasive way to treat for years. On one level they are " poor-man's Ultrasound " , different frequencies harmonize and affect different densities of tissue, especially useful with trigger-point therapy. On another level they are a great way to stimulate acupoints, more than pressure, less than needling. Those who practice Qi-Gung may find they are useful tool to help develop other-body awareness, following the vibration in the body of the pt has been great practice for myself as I learn to feel qi distribution in others. I've used them with massage and acupressure to great effect and they draw the curious when done in public ( " Whatcha doing? " ) which gives an opening to discuss the benefits of associated arts. Great for Pediatrics, kids love 'em. Be well, Larry Larry Moore L.Ac, RN,BSN,MSOM Scottsdale Arizona 602-931-2529 In a message dated 12/02/08 14:38:28 Mountain Standard Time, jwhartenby writes: Are they that scary? - Chinese Medicine Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:55 PM RE: Acutonics Run. -Jason Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Whartenby! Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:19 PM Chinese Medicine Acutonics Has anyone out there used tuning forks? If so, what do you think? thanks, Jamie www.whartenby.com Recent Activity 3New Members Visit Your Group Health Asthma Triggers How you can identify them. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Need traffic? Drive customers With search ads on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Is there a way to learn acutonics without paying an arm and a leg? K. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM, galenway <Galenway wrote: > Jaimie- > > I know this question has been discussed on this list before. > > I've used them as a non-invasive way to treat for years. On one level they > are " poor-man's Ultrasound " , different frequencies harmonize and affect > different densities of tissue, especially useful with trigger-point therapy. > On another level they are a great way to stimulate acupoints, more than > pressure, less than needling. Those who practice Qi-Gung may find they are > useful tool to help develop other-body awareness, following the vibration in > the body of the pt has been great practice for myself as I learn to feel qi > distribution in others. > > I've used them with massage and acupressure to great effect and they draw > the curious when done in public ( " Whatcha doing? " ) which gives an opening to > discuss the benefits of associated arts. > > Great for Pediatrics, kids love 'em. > > Be well, > > Larry > > Larry Moore > L.Ac, RN,BSN,MSOM > Scottsdale Arizona > 602-931-2529 > > > In a message dated 12/02/08 14:38:28 Mountain Standard Time, > jwhartenby <jwhartenby%40cox.net> writes: > Are they that scary? > > - > > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:55 PM > RE: Acutonics > > Run. > > -Jason > > Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > [Chinese Medicine <Traditional_Chinese_Medicin\ e%40>] > On Behalf Of > Whartenby! > Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:19 PM > To: Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > Acutonics > > Has anyone out there used tuning forks? If so, what do you think? > > thanks, > Jamie > www.whartenby.com > Recent Activity > 3New Members > Visit Your Group > Health > Asthma Triggers > How you can > identify them. > Meditation and > Lovingkindness > A Group > to share and learn. > Need traffic? > Drive customers > With search ads > on . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Tuning forks should be considered to be an experimental technique, with no background in traditional Chinese medical practice. In my opinion, this means informing patients that it is experimental, with no documented therapeutic benefits to the patient. On Dec 2, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Whartenby! wrote: > Has anyone out there used tuning forks? If so, what do you think? > > thanks, > Jamie > www.whartenby.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 A couple years back I researched tuning fork treatments and found, as in all treatment protocols, the frequency of different acupoints varied with the protocol author. Tuning forks are not, in my opinion, a poor man's ultrasound technique. Tuning forks are pricey! Tuning forks are effective demonstrators of resonance, which restore energy to its original configuration. On occasion I use my tuning forks with complex cases, but the technique I use on a regular basis is this: I heat two rocks (selected with intention), wrap them in terry cloth to protect the patient from a burn, and have the patient rest their hands on them during the regular treatment. At the close of the treatment I take these rocks which are now cooled sufficiently, and tap one agains the other down the shu points and acrossed the shoulders to release any residual trapped energy. Then I take the rock used to tap the other one and slide it from GB20 to each shoulder and down the shu points. This is usually a smooth rock. It has a nice closing effect. My thoughts are that the frequency variables in any individual treatment are likely beyond any authors or practitioners capacity and in reality, simple rocks may be just as effective. Why would the universe insist on an expensive and complicated procedure to produce resonance? I also have noted that many hemisync sound tracks are very similar to the sounds of nature. Spending an afternoon gardening in silence (accompanied with birds, crickets, and the wind) is possibly just as effective to synchronize the hemispheres as listening to a manufactured piece of music. That is how I convinced myself that rocks are both grounding and sonic, and can be instruments in producing harmony. Janis Egan --- On Tue, 12/2/08, galenway <Galenway wrote: galenway <Galenway Re: Acutonics Chinese Medicine Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:14 PM Jaimie- I know this question has been discussed on this list before. I've used them as a non-invasive way to treat for years. On one level they are " poor-man's Ultrasound " , different frequencies harmonize and affect different densities of tissue, especially useful with trigger-point therapy. On another level they are a great way to stimulate acupoints, more than pressure, less than needling. Those who practice Qi-Gung may find they are useful tool to help develop other-body awareness, following the vibration in the body of the pt has been great practice for myself as I learn to feel qi distribution in others. I've used them with massage and acupressure to great effect and they draw the curious when done in public ( " Whatcha doing? " ) which gives an opening to discuss the benefits of associated arts. Great for Pediatrics, kids love 'em. Be well, Larry Larry Moore L.Ac, RN,BSN,MSOM Scottsdale Arizona 602-931-2529 In a message dated 12/02/08 14:38:28 Mountain Standard Time, jwhartenby writes: Are they that scary? - Chinese Medicine Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:55 PM RE: Acutonics Run. -Jason Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Whartenby! Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:19 PM Chinese Medicine Acutonics Has anyone out there used tuning forks? If so, what do you think? thanks, Jamie www.whartenby.com Recent Activity 3New Members Visit Your Group Health Asthma Triggers How you can identify them. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Need traffic? Drive customers With search ads on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Jamie, and the group- I agree there are lots of different opinions on different frequencies for application. I have 28 forks that I have collected and experimented with over the years and primarily use a low tone as a yin application to gently unravel stagnant or excess energy (much as I would use gentle fingertip pressure over said points) and higher tone to stimulate, tonify or more aggressively break apart stuck Qi. Whether this has something to do with the longer lower energy waves of a low tone (sounds that are more yin relative to yang) vs the higher closer more energetic higher tone, or its simply the guide for my medical Qi Gung, or whether it's all intension it seems to work for my patients. I agree with Z'ev in that this is not necessarily a TCM technique, but then I also use the vibrations of crystals and on occasion toning/chanting when the patient is open to it, as well as my allopathic experiences. I admit to being a pragmatist when it comes to energy therapies, I try to go with my (sometimes limited) understanding of the principles behind the rituals or techniques and apply them. Not suggesting it for everyone but it's how I grow in my art. What I did was to purchase a simple set and explore on friends, pets and family before trying them on patients. Definitely avoid the heads of infants (fragile blood vessels) and directly over fresh trauma (used to be used as a check for fractured bones, vibrate one end of the bone and would have pinpoint pain at the break site) as well as other common sense guides. I don't mean to minimize the power of this modality, but a wise teacher once told me that his teacher had said he could not share the medicine he had taught him. He could only share what of it he had made his own. Be well, Larry In a message dated 12/03/08 09:48:41 Mountain Standard Time, janis3934 writes: A couple years back I researched tuning fork treatments and found, as in all treatment protocols, the frequency of different acupoints varied with the protocol author. Tuning forks are not, in my opinion, a poor man's ultrasound technique. Tuning forks are pricey! Tuning forks are effective demonstrators of resonance, which restore energy to its original configuration. On occasion I use my tuning forks with complex cases, but the technique I use on a regular basis is this: I heat two rocks (selected with intention), wrap them in terry cloth to protect the patient from a burn, and have the patient rest their hands on them during the regular treatment. At the close of the treatment I take these rocks which are now cooled sufficiently, and tap one agains the other down the shu points and acrossed the shoulders to release any residual trapped energy. Then I take the rock used to tap the other one and slide it from GB20 to each shoulder and down the shu points. This is usually a smooth rock. It has a nice closing effect. My thoughts are that the frequency variables in any individual treatment are likely beyond any authors or practitioners capacity and in reality, simple rocks may be just as effective. Why would the universe insist on an expensive and complicated procedure to produce resonance? I also have noted that many hemisync sound tracks are very similar to the sounds of nature. Spending an afternoon gardening in silence (accompanied with birds, crickets, and the wind) is possibly just as effective to synchronize the hemispheres as listening to a manufactured piece of music. That is how I convinced myself that rocks are both grounding and sonic, and can be instruments in producing harmony. Janis Egan --- On Tue, 12/2/08, galenway <Galenway wrote: galenway <Galenway Re: Acutonics Chinese Medicine Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:14 PM Jaimie- I know this question has been discussed on this list before. I've used them as a non-invasive way to treat for years. On one level they are " poor-man's Ultrasound " , different frequencies harmonize and affect different densities of tissue, especially useful with trigger-point therapy. On another level they are a great way to stimulate acupoints, more than pressure, less than needling. Those who practice Qi-Gung may find they are useful tool to help develop other-body awareness, following the vibration in the body of the pt has been great practice for myself as I learn to feel qi distribution in others. I've used them with massage and acupressure to great effect and they draw the curious when done in public ( " Whatcha doing? " ) which gives an opening to discuss the benefits of associated arts. Great for Pediatrics, kids love 'em. Be well, Larry Larry Moore L.Ac, RN,BSN,MSOM Scottsdale Arizona 602-931-2529 In a message dated 12/02/08 14:38:28 Mountain Standard Time, jwhartenby writes: Are they that scary? - Chinese Medicine Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:55 PM RE: Acutonics Run. -Jason Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Whartenby! Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:19 PM Chinese Medicine Acutonics Has anyone out there used tuning forks? If so, what do you think? thanks, Jamie www.whartenby.com Recent Activity 3New Members Visit Your Group Health Asthma Triggers How you can identify them. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Need traffic? Drive customers With search ads on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.