Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 Dear Family, Friends and Students, Thanks to a couple of my friends who keep tabs on my posts, and who are always willing to help me with my research, it has been brought to my attention that the site http://freedomfighterradio.net/?p=10787 is a radical site and that the post from the other day having to do with the contents of the H1N1 Vaccine, may very well be bogus. Is the site a radical right wing site? or . . . Is the site a Red Herring put out by the New World Order in order to keep track of radicals, make lists of radicals, and foment even more dissension as Agent Provocateurs??? This is hard to tell by going to the site, but it doesn't really matter which is the case if the information is incomplete, false or not verifiable. I sent a comm to the website asking them to verify and share the sources of their research, and have received no answer. No answer is an answer. Regardless of the fact that times are very tumultuous at the present, and that people make mistakes in the presence of suppression (and there is a tremendous amount of suppression occurring at this time), I feel it only responsible of me to retract my post that forwards the information from this website. I don't particularly like eating crow, but I will when I have to. In my books, it is far better to be honest, than it is to be right. The above site foments and encourages REVOLUTION. On the other hand, I have always promoted and insisted upon EVOLUTION instead. I apologize to my readers for not doing my due diligence on this one, and for not doing my usual very thorough research. Being extraordinarily busy and in the middle of a move is no excuse. If any of you should come across verifiable data as to the actual contents of the Vaccine, please send it to me instanter. I would appreciate it. Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc Quote
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 In my reading I have yet to find the ingredients of the new flu vaccine. The only commentary I have found is that they are based on the recipe (if one can use that word) for the '70s flu vaccine and most sites are actually giving *that* recipe. I guess it doesn't matter much to me. Pretty much any of those ingredients are deal breakers for me. I like the idea of heavy metals as much as foreign proteins. Ramona Quoting Doc Shillington <Doc: > Dear Family, Friends and Students, > > Thanks to a couple of my friends who keep tabs on my posts, and who are > always willing to help me with my research, it has been brought to my > attention that the site http://freedomfighterradio.net/?p=10787 is a > radical site and that the post from the other day having to do with the > contents of the H1N1 Vaccine, may very well be bogus. Is the site a > radical right wing site? or . . . Is the site a Red Herring put out by > the New World Order in order to keep track of radicals, make lists of > radicals, and foment even more dissension as Agent Provocateurs??? This > is hard to tell by going to the site, but it doesn't really matter which > is the case if the information is incomplete, false or not verifiable. > > I sent a comm to the website asking them to verify and share the sources > of their research, and have received no answer. No answer is an answer. > > Regardless of the fact that times are very tumultuous at the present, > and that people make mistakes in the presence of suppression (and there > is a tremendous amount of suppression occurring at this time), I feel it > only responsible of me to retract my post that forwards the information > from this website. I don't particularly like eating crow, but I will > when I have to. In my books, it is far better to be honest, than it is > to be right. > > The above site foments and encourages REVOLUTION. On the other hand, I > have always promoted and insisted upon EVOLUTION instead. > > I apologize to my readers for not doing my due diligence on this one, > and for not doing my usual very thorough research. Being > extraordinarily busy and in the middle of a move is no excuse. > > If any of you should come across verifiable data as to the actual > contents of the Vaccine, please send it to me instanter. I would > appreciate it. > > Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, > > > > Doc > > > > --- > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner > and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington! Groups Links > > > > " Live in faith, not fear. " Quote
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 Here's a list of verified ingredients in the Australian version:http://www.infowars.com/h1n1-panvax-training-powerpoint-received-by-health-care-workers-in-australia/ herbal remedies (AT) Groups (DOT) comFrom: DocDate: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:50:28 -0400{Herbal Remedies} Possibly Bogus Information in regards the H1N1 Vaccine Contents - Retraction until further Notice Dear Family, Friends and Students, Thanks to a couple of my friends who keep tabs on my posts, and who are always willing to help me with my research, it has been brought to my attention that the site http://freedomfighterradio.net/?p=10787 is a radical site and that the post from the other day having to do with the contents of the H1N1 Vaccine, may very well be bogus. Is the site a radical right wing site? or . . . Is the site a Red Herring put out by the New World Order in order to keep track of radicals, make lists of radicals, and foment even more dissension as Agent Provocateurs??? This is hard to tell by going to the site, but it doesn't really matter which is the case if the information is incomplete, false or not verifiable. I sent a comm to the website asking them to verify and share the sources of their research, and have received no answer. No answer is an answer. Regardless of the fact that times are very tumultuous at the present, and that people make mistakes in the presence of suppression (and there is a tremendous amount of suppression occurring at this time), I feel it only responsible of me to retract my post that forwards the information from this website. I don't particularly like eating crow, but I will when I have to. In my books, it is far better to be honest, than it is to be right. The above site foments and encourages REVOLUTION. On the other hand, I have always promoted and insisted upon EVOLUTION instead. I apologize to my readers for not doing my due diligence on this one, and for not doing my usual very thorough research. Being extraordinarily busy and in the middle of a move is no excuse. If any of you should come across verifiable data as to the actual contents of the Vaccine, please send it to me instanter. I would appreciate it. Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc Click less, mail more: Hotmail on the new MSN homepage! Quote
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 Baxter International filed a patent for the H1N1 vaccine on August 28th 2008. Click here to read ... Baxter Vaccine Patent Application US 2009/0060950 A1 says: '... In particular preferred embodiments the composition or vaccine comprises more than one antigen ... such as influenza A and influenza B in particular selected from of one or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2, H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1, H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7, H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3, H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2, H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.' The patent was published in March 2009, a month before the virus was released in Mexico in April, but it was filed seven months before this 'new strain' was officially known about. It is the most blatant set-up you could ever see. http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191 Sheila -- CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!! http://www.fairtax.org/campaigns/support_fair_tax.html?gclid=CJv78o_7140CFQwsOAodEyF0lg He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher Quote
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 That looks bad, but here's the deal with that. H1N1 type A is extremely common. According to CDC records, H1N1 has been the most common type of flu since 2000. This particular H1N1 is being called "novel H1N1" by the CDC because it is different than the others. I think that kind of gets Baxter off the hook. Sort of.I'm still in the middle of researching this using only "reputable" resources (aka the CDC) as sources of information, but I am attaching a WORD doc with the research I have completed so far. The statistics are only for the United States.Here's what you will notice. The CDC states that 36,000 Americans die form the flu every year. The truth is, only a few hundred die. The way the CDC gets their number is that they combine flu deaths with pneumonia deaths (which is usually somewhere arounf 60,000) and then cut the number in half, basically saying that half of those deaths are from the flu and half are from pneumonia. It's sneaky, but that's how they do it.herbal remedies From: srp2wantsnospamDate: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:39:50 -0400Re: {Herbal Remedies} Possibly Bogus Information in regards the H1N1 Vaccine Contents - Retraction until further Notice Baxter International filed a patent for the H1N1 vaccine on August 28th 2008. Click here to read ... Baxter Vaccine Patent Application US 2009/0060950 A1 says: '... In particular preferred embodiments the composition or vaccine comprises more than one antigen ... such as influenza A and influenza B in particular selected from of one or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2, H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1, H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7, H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3, H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2, H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.' The patent was published in March 2009, a month before the virus was released in Mexico in April, but it was filed seven months before this 'new strain' was officially known about. It is the most blatant set-up you could ever see. http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191 Sheila -- CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!!http://www.fairtax.org/campaigns/support_fair_tax.html?gclid=CJv78o_7140CFQwsOAodEyF0lgHe truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher New! Hotmail sign-in on the MSN homepage. 1 of 1 File(s) Influenza - Deaths Numbers.doc Quote
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 I have no problem with conspiracy theorists. They help wake us up and get us thinking That in itself is a very good thing. The trick is.. to take the info they offer and do your own checking to confirm sources/facts. I applaud you Doc, for coming forth and letting us know the truth. As far as Alex Jones (who I am familiar with through interviews, etc) .. as the saying goes.. If you are a carpenter... then everything looks like a hammer " lolol And suffice to say.. he is an extremely avid " carpenter " . patOn Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Katherine@LMF <Katherine wrote: Thank you, I am suspicious of ‘facts’ that can’t be verified. Freedom Fighter and Prison Planet are good in that they do get some needed info out, but they tend to be a bit unethical in doing so. I don’t think for a second that it is a red herring site. Alex Jones of Prison Planet actually is quite informed, but still a huge conspiracy theorist. Katherine THE WAY FOOD USED TO TASTE www.LegacyManorFarm.com (Maryland) herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Shillington Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:50 AM herbal remedies (AT) Groups (DOT) com {Herbal Remedies} Possibly Bogus Information in regards the H1N1 Vaccine Contents - Retraction until further Notice Dear Family, Friends and Students, Thanks to a couple of my friends who keep tabs on my posts, and who are always willing to help me with my research, it has been brought to my attention that the site http://freedomfighterradio.net/?p=10787 is a radical site and that the post from the other day having to do with the contents of the H1N1 Vaccine, may very well be bogus. Is the site a radical right wing site? or . . . Is the site a Red Herring put out by the New World Order in order to keep track of radicals, make lists of radicals, and foment even more dissension as Agent Provocateurs??? This is hard to tell by going to the site, but it doesn't really matter which is the case if the information is incomplete, false or not verifiable. I sent a comm to the website asking them to verify and share the sources of their research, and have received no answer. No answer is an answer. Regardless of the fact that times are very tumultuous at the present, and that people make mistakes in the presence of suppression (and there is a tremendous amount of suppression occurring at this time), I feel it only responsible of me to retract my post that forwards the information from this website. I don't particularly like eating crow, but I will when I have to. In my books, it is far better to be honest, than it is to be right. The above site foments and encourages REVOLUTION. On the other hand, I have always promoted and insisted upon EVOLUTION instead. I apologize to my readers for not doing my due diligence on this one, and for not doing my usual very thorough research. Being extraordinarily busy and in the middle of a move is no excuse. If any of you should come across verifiable data as to the actual contents of the Vaccine, please send it to me instanter. I would appreciate it. Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc Quote
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