Herbal Formula names, herbal ingredients & price

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Thanks Phil!

I think that is going to be most helpful

Beth

 

 

?Beth Grubb

Licensed Acupuncturist

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Chinese Medicine

Mon, 23 Jun 2008 3:08 pm

Herbal Formula names, herbal ingredients & price

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Beth & All,

 

Beth wrote:

> I am beginning to use some patents in my practice and am having a

> difficult time because it seems like each company calls the same (or

> almost the same) formula something different.? For example,? Liu Wei Di

> Huang Wan is " Temper Fire " from KPC and others call it various versions

> of 6 Flavor Rumania/pills/teapills/etc.? Another example? " Prosperous

> Farmer " from Kan, is called " 6 Gentleman " from Health Concerns " .? Is

> there a website or a resource that lists herbal patent formulas and what

> they are also known as from suppliers like Kan, KPC, Mayway, Crane,

> Giovanni M., etc.?? it woudl be most helpful when I am looking up things

> to know what else they are called in different references, and helpful

> to know if one supplier carries it for different prices than another.?

> Thanks. Beth Grubb

 

Company names for their patents and modifications of the Classical

formulas can be confusing. IMO, one is better to use the Pinyin name

and / or Hanzi term for Chinese formulas when searching WWW for data.

 

Also, prices and inclusion rates of the herbal ingredients can vary

between companies.

 

For an idea of the variations and prices of formulas, register as a

practitioner (free) with Crane Herb Co, at http://www.craneherb.com/

 

Then go to the Custom Pharmacy Library there at

www.craneherb.com/web/practitioner/custompharmacy/cflibrary.aspx and

select the " Source Formulas " option.

 

Then enter the first few pinyin terms of any formula of interest, for

example liu wei di huang

 

This will return data from different manufacturers, with the prices

shown.

 

For an idea on variation in ingredients, from WWW data (including

Crane Herb Co data), here is a summary of the data on one popular

formula:

 

Buzhong Yiqi Tang* (Tone Middle (SJM) & Enrich Qi Dec; Ginseng &

Astragalus Dec):

 

Inclusion Rates (Mean & Range, %) in 11 separate formulas were:

Huangqi 26.1 (19.3-29.9) [Tone Qi, Ascend SJM Sunken Yangqi];

Renshen** 14.7 (9.2-19.3) [Tone SP Qi];

Baizhu 13.8 (9.1-17.6) [Tone SP; Dry Damp];

Danggui 13.8 (5.9-19.7) [Tone Qi; Tone Xue; Activate Xue];

Chenpi / Jupi 9.5 (6.5-11.7) [Rectify Qi; Digestive~ Aid ST; Aid

digestion of other Hbs];

Zhigancao / Gancao 8.8 (5.7-18.2) [Tone Qi, Harmonise other Hbs];

Chaihu 7.0 (4.4-11.8) [Ascend Yangqi Sinking];

Shengma 6.3 (4.4-9.7) [Ascend Yangqi Sinking];

 

(**dt cost of Renshen, one can substitute 2-3 times more Dangshen

instead); grind all Hbs to coarse powder;

 

some formulas also add Dazao (at Gancao dose) & Shengjiang (at

Renshen dose);

 

Dose: as Powder: 7.5g / dose, TID; can make into pills w cooked honey

(Miwan Fu); as Dec: cook ??g formula w water (Shuijian Fu) (2 bowls);

cook down to 1 bowl; remove dregs from Dec & drink Warm between

meals;

 

Actions: Tone Qi; Enrich Qi; Warm & Tone SJM; Rectify & Harmonise SJM;

Support SJM to Aid Yang & Qi; Tone SJM Qi; Ascend SP Yang; Ascend

Sunken Yang; Ascend Yangqi (Raise Prolapse); Prevent & Tx

immunosuppression induced by surgical stress

 

Indications: key TCM formula that allows many MODIFICATIONS for many

diseases; great for prolapsed organs (anus, rectum & uterus; ST

ptosis, eyelid ptosis) esp dt Qixu / Qi Taxation / exertion; best for

prolapse / ptosis dt SJM Qixu which causes SJM Yangqi Sinking (organs

/ tissues lack Nourishment & become flaccid & body starts to collapse

inwards & downwards); also good in fever dt Qixu; S & Ss: Body Heat ( /

Fever) (Shenre) w sweat (Youhan), fever~ intermittent, fever worse w

exertion, thirst (Ke) w preference for Hot drinks (Hao Reyin),

headache w Averse to Cold (Wuhan, chills), weak breathing (Shaoqi) /

breath shortage / panting w laconic / sluggish speech (Lanyan),

inappetance (Yinshi, drink & food tasteless / of no interest), four

limbs (Sizhi) weak, heavy (Suanzhong), lack strength (Wuli) & aches &

pains (Tengtong), indolence (Daiduo) & prefer to lie down (Haowo) /

curl up; immunosuppression induced by surgical stress; face shiny &

pale; T: pale & thin (She Nensedan) w Fur white; P: Xu (weak, empty)

& big (Mai Xuda) / weak & faint; if appropriate S & Ss of Qixu / Qi

Sinking present, can Tx: Qixu w Sinking (Qixu Xiaxian) causing

(Yinqide) prolapsed anus (Tuogong ), uterus prolapse (Zigong

Xiachui), chronic dysentery (Jiuli) / chronic malaria (Jiunue),

gastroptosis (Wei Xiachui), KI prolapse (Shen Xiachui), eyelids

ptosis (Yanpi Xiachui), neurasthenia (Shenjing Shuairuo), myasthenia

gravis (Zhongzheng Ji Wuli), hypotension (Xueya Guodi, BP too low),

immunity low (Mianyili Di), leucopenia; for better effect (Xiaoguo

Genghao) to contract & Strengthen (Shousuo Youli) smooth muscle of

Internal organs (Neizang) & Strengthen their tension (Zhangli

Zhengqiang), add Zhike / Zhishi; used in chronic LV~ hepatitis

(Manxing Ganyan), hypercholesterolaemia, ST-Intestine (Changwei)

ulcers (Kuiyang, losing Yang), chronic KI~ nephritis (Manxing

Shenyan), KI Disease Complex (nephrosis) (Shenbing Zonghebing),

chronic bleeding (Manxing Chuxue), anaemia (Pinxue), HT disease

(Xinzangbing), neurasthenia, vertigo, chronic diarrhoea (Manxing

Fuxie) / faeces~ loose / watery, loss of hair (Tuofa), vision fatigue

(Shili Pilao), impotence / ED w premature ejaculation (Yangwei

Zaoxie), rhinitis (Biyan), habitual / recurrent (Xiguanxing)

miscarriage (Liuchan), haemorrhoids (Zhichuang), chyle in urine

(proteinuria) (Ruminiao), spontaneous sweat (Zihan), chronic

bronchitis (Manxing Qiguanyan), sweat~ night, oligospermia (Jingzi

Quefazheng, sperm Xu / shortage disease), recurrent neuritis /

neuralgia (Duofaxing Shenjingyan), asthma (Xiaochuan), senile

(Laonianxing) osteoporosis (Guzhi Shusong), atrophic (Weisuoxing)

vulvitis (Waiyinyan), senile red & white leucorrhoea (Chibaidai),

hereditary (Yichuanxing) cerebellar (Xiaonaoxing) ataxia (Gongji

Shitiao), glucosuria / diabetes (Tangniaobing); complement (Peihe) WM

cancer therapy (Xiyao Zhi'ai); Aid recovery / rehabilitation (Tiaoli)

after surgery (Shoushuhou); debility after severe illness, pernicious

anaemia, fatigue, metrorrhagia~ functional, leucorrhoea, postpartum

problems (vertigo, anaemia, hypolactia, lochia~ retained, urine

incontinence, lochioschesis, infertility, metrorrhagia~ irregular,

bleeding between menses, bleeding~ irregular), corneal ulcers,

cerebral arteriosclerosis;

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth & All,

 

Beth wrote:

> I am beginning to use some patents in my practice and am having a

> difficult time because it seems like each company calls the same (or

> almost the same) formula something different.? For example,? Liu Wei Di

> Huang Wan is " Temper Fire " from KPC and others call it various versions

> of 6 Flavor Rumania/pills/teapills/etc.? Another example? " Prosperous

> Farmer " from Kan, is called " 6 Gentleman " from Health Concerns " .? Is

> there a website or a resource that lists herbal patent formulas and what

> they are also known as from suppliers like Kan, KPC, Mayway, Crane,

> Giovanni M., etc.?? it woudl be most helpful when I am looking up things

> to know what else they are called in different references, and helpful

> to know if one supplier carries it for different prices than another.?

> Thanks. Beth Grubb

 

Company names for their patents and modifications of the Classical

formulas can be confusing. IMO, one is better to use the Pinyin name

and / or Hanzi term for Chinese formulas when searching WWW for data.

 

Also, prices and inclusion rates of the herbal ingredients can vary

between companies.

 

For an idea of the variations and prices of formulas, register as a

practitioner (free) with Crane Herb Co, at http://www.craneherb.com/

 

Then go to the Custom Pharmacy Library there at

www.craneherb.com/web/practitioner/custompharmacy/cflibrary.aspx and

select the " Source Formulas " option.

 

Then enter the first few pinyin terms of any formula of interest, for

example liu wei di huang

 

This will return data from different manufacturers, with the prices

shown.

 

For an idea on variation in ingredients, from WWW data (including

Crane Herb Co data), here is a summary of the data on one popular

formula:

 

Buzhong Yiqi Tang* (Tone Middle (SJM) & Enrich Qi Dec; Ginseng &

Astragalus Dec):

 

Inclusion Rates (Mean & Range, %) in 11 separate formulas were:

Huangqi 26.1 (19.3-29.9) [Tone Qi, Ascend SJM Sunken Yangqi];

Renshen** 14.7 (9.2-19.3) [Tone SP Qi];

Baizhu 13.8 (9.1-17.6) [Tone SP; Dry Damp];

Danggui 13.8 (5.9-19.7) [Tone Qi; Tone Xue; Activate Xue];

Chenpi / Jupi 9.5 (6.5-11.7) [Rectify Qi; Digestive~ Aid ST; Aid

digestion of other Hbs];

Zhigancao / Gancao 8.8 (5.7-18.2) [Tone Qi, Harmonise other Hbs];

Chaihu 7.0 (4.4-11.8) [Ascend Yangqi Sinking];

Shengma 6.3 (4.4-9.7) [Ascend Yangqi Sinking];

 

(**dt cost of Renshen, one can substitute 2-3 times more Dangshen

instead); grind all Hbs to coarse powder;

 

some formulas also add Dazao (at Gancao dose) & Shengjiang (at

Renshen dose);

 

Dose: as Powder: 7.5g / dose, TID; can make into pills w cooked honey

(Miwan Fu); as Dec: cook ??g formula w water (Shuijian Fu) (2 bowls);

cook down to 1 bowl; remove dregs from Dec & drink Warm between

meals;

 

Actions: Tone Qi; Enrich Qi; Warm & Tone SJM; Rectify & Harmonise SJM;

Support SJM to Aid Yang & Qi; Tone SJM Qi; Ascend SP Yang; Ascend

Sunken Yang; Ascend Yangqi (Raise Prolapse); Prevent & Tx

immunosuppression induced by surgical stress

 

Indications: key TCM formula that allows many MODIFICATIONS for many

diseases; great for prolapsed organs (anus, rectum & uterus; ST

ptosis, eyelid ptosis) esp dt Qixu / Qi Taxation / exertion; best for

prolapse / ptosis dt SJM Qixu which causes SJM Yangqi Sinking (organs

/ tissues lack Nourishment & become flaccid & body starts to collapse

inwards & downwards); also good in fever dt Qixu; S & Ss: Body Heat ( /

Fever) (Shenre) w sweat (Youhan), fever~ intermittent, fever worse w

exertion, thirst (Ke) w preference for Hot drinks (Hao Reyin),

headache w Averse to Cold (Wuhan, chills), weak breathing (Shaoqi) /

breath shortage / panting w laconic / sluggish speech (Lanyan),

inappetance (Yinshi, drink & food tasteless / of no interest), four

limbs (Sizhi) weak, heavy (Suanzhong), lack strength (Wuli) & aches &

pains (Tengtong), indolence (Daiduo) & prefer to lie down (Haowo) /

curl up; immunosuppression induced by surgical stress; face shiny &

pale; T: pale & thin (She Nensedan) w Fur white; P: Xu (weak, empty)

& big (Mai Xuda) / weak & faint; if appropriate S & Ss of Qixu / Qi

Sinking present, can Tx: Qixu w Sinking (Qixu Xiaxian) causing

(Yinqide) prolapsed anus (Tuogong ), uterus prolapse (Zigong

Xiachui), chronic dysentery (Jiuli) / chronic malaria (Jiunue),

gastroptosis (Wei Xiachui), KI prolapse (Shen Xiachui), eyelids

ptosis (Yanpi Xiachui), neurasthenia (Shenjing Shuairuo), myasthenia

gravis (Zhongzheng Ji Wuli), hypotension (Xueya Guodi, BP too low),

immunity low (Mianyili Di), leucopenia; for better effect (Xiaoguo

Genghao) to contract & Strengthen (Shousuo Youli) smooth muscle of

Internal organs (Neizang) & Strengthen their tension (Zhangli

Zhengqiang), add Zhike / Zhishi; used in chronic LV~ hepatitis

(Manxing Ganyan), hypercholesterolaemia, ST-Intestine (Changwei)

ulcers (Kuiyang, losing Yang), chronic KI~ nephritis (Manxing

Shenyan), KI Disease Complex (nephrosis) (Shenbing Zonghebing),

chronic bleeding (Manxing Chuxue), anaemia (Pinxue), HT disease

(Xinzangbing), neurasthenia, vertigo, chronic diarrhoea (Manxing

Fuxie) / faeces~ loose / watery, loss of hair (Tuofa), vision fatigue

(Shili Pilao), impotence / ED w premature ejaculation (Yangwei

Zaoxie), rhinitis (Biyan), habitual / recurrent (Xiguanxing)

miscarriage (Liuchan), haemorrhoids (Zhichuang), chyle in urine

(proteinuria) (Ruminiao), spontaneous sweat (Zihan), chronic

bronchitis (Manxing Qiguanyan), sweat~ night, oligospermia (Jingzi

Quefazheng, sperm Xu / shortage disease), recurrent neuritis /

neuralgia (Duofaxing Shenjingyan), asthma (Xiaochuan), senile

(Laonianxing) osteoporosis (Guzhi Shusong), atrophic (Weisuoxing)

vulvitis (Waiyinyan), senile red & white leucorrhoea (Chibaidai),

hereditary (Yichuanxing) cerebellar (Xiaonaoxing) ataxia (Gongji

Shitiao), glucosuria / diabetes (Tangniaobing); complement (Peihe) WM

cancer therapy (Xiyao Zhi'ai); Aid recovery / rehabilitation (Tiaoli)

after surgery (Shoushuhou); debility after severe illness, pernicious

anaemia, fatigue, metrorrhagia~ functional, leucorrhoea, postpartum

problems (vertigo, anaemia, hypolactia, lochia~ retained, urine

incontinence, lochioschesis, infertility, metrorrhagia~ irregular,

bleeding between menses, bleeding~ irregular), corneal ulcers,

cerebral arteriosclerosis;

 

Best regards,